S1: From Vision Australia. This is talking vision. And now here's
S1: your host Sam Colley.
S2: Hello, everyone. It's great to be here with you. And
S2: for the next half hour we talk matters of blindness
S2: and low vision. Hello and welcome to this special Midsummer
S2: Carnival edition of Talking Vision. Today we feature a couple
S2: of interviews from a range of presenters and guests on
S2: the Midsummer Carnival Outside broadcast, which took place on the
S2: 19th of January. Starting off today, we feature a conversation
S2: with myself and Cara Negroni, with the director of a
S2: show coming to Chapel Off Chapel later this month. Into
S2: early February as part of midsummer. So, without further ado,
S2: here's our conversation with Oliver. Next up we've got. Oliver
S2: is with us. Oliver is a disabled chance theatre maker, actor,
S2: writer and director living and working between Naarm and Eora.
S2: Graduating with a BFA in Theatre from the VCA in 2021.
S2: He has performed and presented work nationally and internationally. Oliver
S2: joins us now as the director and co-writer of monster,
S2: the Demon Twink of Smith Street, showing at Chapel off
S2: chapel from January 20th 9th to February the 2nd as
S2: part of Midsummer Festival 2025. Oliver, welcome.
S3: Hello. Thank you so much for having me. It's such
S3: a pleasure to pleasure to come on down. What a
S3: beautiful day.
S4: I'm so glad you're here, Oliver. Because, um, part of
S4: the mid midsummer community ambassador role, I was always asked,
S4: you know, I get asked, what are the events you
S4: want to go for? And I'm browsing through the program
S4: and I see this event called The Demon Twink of
S4: Smith Street. And I was like, okay, I have to
S4: go here. So first things first. How on earth do
S4: you come up with a name like that? I love it.
S3: Oh my goodness. I think it's just natural if you
S3: know Florian at all, which hopefully you can come to
S3: the show and get an idea for who they are.
S3: It's pretty. Yeah, it's just naming exactly what is in
S3: the tin with Florian Wilde. Very much demon twink energy.
S4: Please tell me more because my brain goes everywhere when
S4: I think of demon twink. Like, just tell us more.
S4: Tell our listeners more about it.
S3: Oh goodness me. So the story of Florian Wilde is
S3: that it's a persona, but it's also a true story
S3: about Louis, who is Florian and how he is a
S3: transgender man. He is a drag queen. He's also a
S3: high school teacher, so he kind of encompasses the intersection between, like,
S3: these three really controversial identity points and kind of coalesces
S3: in the middle of all of that. So it's a
S3: really campy, fun, cabaret entertaining look at some actually quite serious,
S3: like intense trans issues to navigate in the world. And
S3: his role as a teacher and also as a performer.
S4: I look, I love that personally as well because as
S4: a person with a disability, I feel like disability can
S4: be quite a heavy and dark subject for some. So
S4: trying to lighten it up as much as I can,
S4: you know, add a lot of humor. So I totally
S4: get what you're saying about having a meaningful message there,
S4: but making it fun at the same time.
S3: It just needs to be. You have to laugh.
S4: Yeah, you have to laugh. It's so funny because I
S4: feel like the people that get offended by disability and
S4: queer jokes are the ones that are not queer and
S4: not disabled because we love laughing, right?
S3: We love laughing at ourselves. Yes, it's how we cope.
S4: So how did you get you get into writing something
S4: like this?
S3: Oh well, it was funny. I actually started off this collaboration.
S3: I work as a theatre maker and an actor director, writer.
S3: I've done so many different roles throughout my career as
S3: a performer and as a maker. But I came onto
S3: this project because Florian was looking for a trans queer pianist. Wow.
S3: So I played the piano. I'm self-taught and I'm not
S3: very good. And so it was just kind of like.
S4: Still better than me.
S3: I'm like, I'm okay. I can learn things, but it takes.
S4: That's what they all say. Sam I'm sure he's amazing.
S2: Probably a lot better than me these days. So I
S2: can totally. Um, no. I think you'd do a wonderful job.
S3: Oh, look. Well, so I started off coming on board
S3: as a pianist, helping with the arrangement, and then I
S3: kind of just got chatting with Florian more about the
S3: script and about the story. The, you know, we wanted
S3: to tell here. And we're both transgender men. We have
S3: a lot in common. We're around the same age and
S3: things got flowing. And then in the initial season that
S3: was in, oh geez, 2023.
S4: You make it sound like it was ten years ago.
S4: That was ten years ago.
S3: It feels like it was ten years ago. We were
S3: talking about it at rehearsal yesterday. It's just like, oh geez,
S3: how long have we been working together? It's been about
S3: two years now. And we ended up kind of coming
S3: into a space where we reworked the scripts together to
S3: just kind of elevate things and get things into a
S3: more personal place with keeping the entertainment factor alive. So
S3: our collaboration has evolved so much. And this is the
S3: third time we're putting it on. So the first time,
S3: it was very much like, I'm coming in, I'm trying
S3: to play the piano. It's just the two of us
S3: pretty much working together. And then in the second time
S3: we took it to Adelaide Fringe last year, and that
S3: was with a reworked script that was really met. The
S3: reception was incredible. It went to places that the first
S3: one was a little bit scared to go to and
S3: we're just stepping it up again. Love that one, which
S3: is great.
S4: Is it a kid friendly show or is it.
S5: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. 18 plus.
S4: I'm glad I asked. I'm not going to take my
S4: friendship with me.
S5: Yeah.
S3: Well. Yes. No, it's, um. It definitely is. It's a
S3: bit of a sexy show. Ah. Um. It's like, I
S3: don't know, it spans. It's very difficult to describe. And
S3: I'm still working on my elevator pitch for it.
S4: I get it, I get what are the key? I
S4: know there's some deep messages there, and we want to
S4: do it in a nice and fun way, which is
S4: always amazing. But what are the key messages people will
S4: walk away with after watching?
S3: I think it's just that trans people are deeply human.
S3: I think that is one of the key messages which
S3: I think cannot be overstated. Yes, I think it's something
S3: that we sometimes in the community will take for granted.
S3: It's just like, oh yeah, we're all on board with
S3: this concept. And it's, you know, the same principles can
S3: so easily be applied to disability. But it's like we
S3: want to bring this show to audiences who might not
S3: be familiar with trans identities at all. And, you know,
S3: have a fun, quirky way of talking about how, like, yeah,
S3: we are like parts of your community. Yeah, we are like,
S3: these are people who are drag queens and they're teaching
S3: in your schools and they're educating your children, and they're
S3: a safe person. Yes. For the next generation, which is
S3: a super controversial, like, hot topic. So it's very timely. Yeah,
S3: I think that we're talking about these things and it's
S3: still sexy. It's still fun. It's still cabaret.
S4: I love that you said the message is that trans
S4: people are deeply human. Yeah, because I feel like it's
S4: the people that don't think other human beings are human.
S4: They're the monsters.
S3: Yeah, 100%. And it's this idea of monstrosity. Exactly that
S3: we're exploring, which makes it sound very highbrow, but.
S5: I promise it's it's it's.
S3: It's a it's a romp. It's a very fun show.
S4: Nothing next to me is highbrow, let me tell you.
S4: Sam may be.
S5: Yes.
S2: No, no, no, I'm not high brow. Trust me.
S5: No, no.
S2: But, um, we've talked a little bit about a range
S2: of things you've been doing over the years. You've written,
S2: you've directed, you've performed, you've done the whole shebang. So
S2: what's your greatest passion? What do you wake up and
S2: be like? Oh my God, I'm doing this today.
S3: Oh my God, I was so scared of this question.
S3: I know right?
S2: I asked the hard questions. That's my job.
S3: Unfortunately, you're not shy about it. I love that about you.
S3: But it's just like, I just. I feel like my
S3: greatest strength is being able to look at a project
S3: no matter what role I have in it, and go, okay,
S3: how can we make this more true? How can we
S3: bring truth to it and vulnerability to it? And that's
S3: the same as a director, as a writer, as an actor,
S3: and as a theater maker. And I feel like because
S3: of my background, not only as in my study of
S3: theater making, but also just in my experience of being
S3: a maker, you learn to look at all of the
S3: parts of something as opposed to opposed to dividing it
S3: up into, okay, you're the producer, so you can't have
S3: an opinion and you're the actor. So you just read
S3: the lines. It's like, I love working in a very
S3: non-hierarchical kind of space where everybody can feed into the thing. Yeah,
S3: they all.
S2: Blur and.
S5: It's just like.
S2: You know, people cross over. If people have an opinion,
S2: they're like, hey, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, people
S2: are receptive to that, I love that. So what sort
S2: of perspectives do you offer in your work that are
S2: perhaps unique to you? You know, things that are unmatched
S2: by other writer directors? The second hard question.
S5: In a row.
S3: I'm very hesitant to say that I'm unmatched in any regard.
S3: But if I.
S2: Say it for.
S5: You.
S3: Okay, cool. Thank you for the for the permission, I
S3: appreciate it. I feel like in terms of, yeah, what
S3: I can bring to a process is living with a disability.
S3: I live with recurrent chronic illness. I have a hyper
S3: awareness of accessibility that I bring to all of all
S3: of the projects that I work on so that it's
S3: a part of the inception of the making. So it's like,
S3: I think so much of accessibility and live performance is
S3: something that is tacked on to the end, whereas in reality,
S3: to be truly inclusive and accessible, you have to think
S3: about these things from the outset. You have to think
S3: about the lighting for the Auslan interpreter. You have to
S3: think about how accessible it's going to be to people
S3: who are blind or low vision. And it's just kind
S3: of like, um, how can we make the sensory aspects
S3: of this so inclusive for more audiences so more people
S3: can get the benefit of? I think the best thing
S3: about this show is that it provides an opportunity to
S3: be radically seen and reflected for other trans people as well,
S3: not only to educate cis people, but for other trans people.
S3: So I think that's the thing that I kind of
S3: bring to a process.
S5: Definitely. I mean.
S4: Since we're in such a deep and meaningful zone and
S4: like I said, Sam is the one who's asking all
S4: the heavy questions. But I'll ask you a heavy question.
S5: Now that's okay. Yeah, please.
S4: What would your drag name be?
S3: Oh, that's so heavy.
S5: What am I going to do with that?
S3: Okay. So I actually. Okay. All right. Okay. Um, um,
S3: it was either going to be Ariela Granola.
S5: Ooh. Or. Tasty.
S3: Yeah, there was Ariela granola. My friend came up with
S3: this one, so she owns it. But Shania pain.
S5: Mhm. Is great.
S3: But she she totally. That's a.
S2: Wrestler. Trans wrestler. Oh my God.
S3: Trans wrestler. Exactly. I'm bringing the Shania pain.
S5: Oh, God.
S3: I think, though, I'd probably be something like Boo Boo
S3: the Fool. Like, I think I'd be a very, like,
S3: Jimbo clown esque drag queen.
S5: I love Jimbo. Yeah, I love.
S3: Throwing the ham.
S5: Would you get the big boobs as well?
S4: Absolutely. Wait, am I allowed to say boobs?
S5: Absolutely. Sure. Okay, look.
S3: It's my radio show.
S5: And I was like, yes. Oh, yeah. I was like,
S5: oh my.
S4: God, am I going to get canceled?
S5: That's fine.
S2: But, um, we've asked this question a few times and
S2: Ariel Granola is the is the winner. Really so far?
S2: I think that's the front runner.
S5: I may.
S4: Be biased, but I think kiwi fruit cake is the best.
S5: One. Oh, Kiwi fruit is cute. It's not bad. I
S5: like that. I'll go with.
S2: Sam. The rhyming. The rhyming. I'll say Kiwi fruit was
S2: my boss's choice, so I'm sort of, you know, you.
S3: Kind of have to.
S5: Say.
S2: Well, no, I'm sort of putting my. I'm throwing myself
S2: in the deep end, but, um. I'm sorry, Conrad, but
S2: Ariela wins out.
S4: Yeah, yeah. Who's Conrad? It's kiwi fruit cake.
S2: Oh. That's true.
S5: Yeah. That's great. Oh. Thank you.
S2: Yeah. So how can we all book tickets to the
S2: show and head along?
S3: Best way to go is either through the, um, midsummer
S3: festival page. Just search monster. It'll pop up. You can
S3: also book tickets through chapel off chapel. It is running
S3: from the 29th of January until the 2nd of February.
S3: And on the 29th of January, we're having a community
S3: night for the gender diverse trans community. So come along.
S3: We've got cheap tickets for Tickets for 25 bucks. So it's, uh. Yeah,
S3: we're really hoping to start off with a bang and
S3: just have a big, lovely group of people to welcome
S3: monster into the world.
S4: And can I just say, I was at the chapel
S4: off chapel for the Dolly Diamond roast last year. Oh, yes.
S4: And the staff were really helpful. Yes. Blind people.
S5: Yeah.
S4: So if you know, to our blind listeners, if you
S4: want to go, I highly recommend that the staff will
S4: take good care of you.
S3: Yeah, absolutely. And I would say that in terms of
S3: the accessibility rating for blind audiences, it's fairly accessible. Correct.
S3: And it's like it's a cabaret. It's very, um, auditory.
S5: Yeah.
S3: It's like that we do some stuff on stage, but
S3: like it's very much like, yeah, it's something that you
S3: would really enjoy. I think listening to and absorbing that way.
S3: It's a lot of storytelling 100%.
S2: Well, thank you so much for your time, Oliver. It's
S2: been an absolute pleasure. Both ways. It's just been wonderful
S2: to have a chat with you all about your writing,
S2: performing and directing journey, and all the best for Demon
S2: Twink of Smith Street and all of your upcoming productions,
S2: which I'm sure are just as good. Thank you.
S4: I'll see you at the Demon Twink show.
S3: Yes. Come and see my front row.
S5: Absolutely. Come along.
S2: Thank you so much for your time. Best of luck.
S2: It's been great to have you. Thank you.
S4: Thanks, Oliver. Happy midsummer.
S5: Happy midsummer.
S2: Happy midsummer. I'm Sam Colley, and you're listening to this
S2: special midsummer carnival edition of Talking Vision. On Vision Australia Radio,
S2: associated stations of Reading Radio and the Community Radio Network.
S2: I hope you enjoyed our conversation there with Oliver Ayres.
S2: Coming up next, it's Conrad and Tess who catch up
S2: with Anastasia from the Victorian Pride Centre. So let's hear
S2: from Tess Herbert right now.
S6: Now we have another wonderful interview and we are very
S6: happy to. Welcome to the microphone, Anastasia Lee, board member
S6: at the Victorian Pride Centre. Hello, Anastasia, and welcome.
S7: Hello. Hello. Thank you for having me.
S6: Ah, it's a pleasure. Now, firstly, would you mind sharing
S6: with us your preferred pronouns and vision status with us?
S7: Um, yeah. So. Anastasia. So pronouns are she her? And, um,
S7: they do have, like, you know, ten out of ten vision.
S6: I see. Well, that's that's fantastic.
S8: One of our sighted friends. Yes. Joining us as well. Anastasia,
S8: it's wonderful to have you on Vision Australia Radio. I've
S8: been told to take a deep breath and allow you
S8: to share with us the various roles you have at
S8: the Victorian Pride Centre.
S7: So I am one of the nine board of directors
S7: at the Pride Centre. My focus. Well, I co-chair the
S7: community referencing Community Engagement working group with Doctor Judy Tang.
S7: And then, um, my focus is people and culture, people development. Um,
S7: as well as, um, sort of stakeholders engagement. So yeah,
S7: so that's what I do usually and a bit of
S7: PR and communications. So yeah. So those are my background.
S8: Keeps you busy I'm sure. Yes.
S5: Yeah.
S7: With that scope.
S8: Yes. Absolutely.
S6: A woman of many, many and varied talents. Now, for
S6: anyone who might not know what is the Victorian Pride Centre,
S6: how did it come about and how long has it
S6: now been operating?
S7: Oh, thank you for asking that question. So it was
S7: quite a journey to get the Civic Pride Center to open.
S7: So the Vic Pride Center is Australia's first purpose built
S7: centre for, um, the LGBTQ plus community. After years and
S7: years of advocacy and hard work from the community. Because
S7: we are built by the community, for the community. The
S7: door is open from, I think, July 2021. But then
S7: a lot of work had been put into that the
S7: years prior to that. And we are located in Saint Kilda,
S7: and one of the things that not many people know
S7: about is the reason why the Price Centre is there,
S7: because the City of Port Phillip graciously gave us the
S7: title of the land, right? So it's actually now owned
S7: truly by the community, and we're not renting that space
S7: or anything. Amazing. Yeah. And so at the Price Centre,
S7: we house all kinds of services, all kinds of LGBTQ
S7: plus also from Australian queer archives to -18 to Thorne
S7: Harbour Health, Joy media, a whole lot. And, um, it's
S7: a space that we hope that we can create a
S7: safe space where community members can connect, collaborate and getting
S7: access to services.
S8: It's such an incredible site. And as you said, it's
S8: full of all of these amazing organizations that contribute so
S8: much to Victoria's queer community. Can you just let us
S8: know some of the regular activities that are also hosted there?
S7: So we do have many arts events. The Pride Center hosted, um, well,
S7: I mean, it's part of who we are, right? Because
S7: we are built by a very diverse community. So inclusive
S7: events have always been at the core of our operation.
S7: Now we have hosted a few like audio description and
S7: tactile tours as well. Brilliant. Again, I am saying this
S7: because we are interviewing you with Vision Australia. So we
S7: have to share this. Yes. And the thing is like,
S7: you know, we would love to have vision specific events
S7: in the future. So hopefully this can open up for
S7: future collaboration. Amazing. Because, um, we do have a collaboration
S7: with Dementia and Memory Lane Cafe, and we do gathering
S7: and social connection for those with dementia as well. So
S7: now we just have to expand our inclusive spirit to
S7: this space.
S8: So well, we have a very good connection with a
S8: lot of the organizations in there, including Joy is one
S8: of our community radio siblings.
S6: Shout out to Joy 94.9.
S8: So wonderful. We would definitely be keen for one of
S8: those collaborations.
S6: Yes. And I mean, as we know, you know, we're
S6: becoming increasingly aware of the intersectionality between people with disabilities
S6: and the queer community. So, you know, making the Victorian
S6: Pride Centre an accessible space for people who are blind
S6: or have low vision is so important, isn't it? Yes. Now,
S6: have you ever or do you plan to host events
S6: that are on this subject that speak to the low
S6: vision community?
S7: Yes. I mean, the Pride Centre. From a governance and
S7: leadership perspective, we plan to maximise all of the features
S7: we have at the Pride Center. As I said previously,
S7: we do have some programs that, you know, audio description programs,
S7: but we would like to expand, to create, to sit
S7: with you in your community, to then design programs and
S7: events that cater specifically for those with low vision or
S7: vision impaired. Now we do in the building because again,
S7: through lengthy consultation process with different parts of the community,
S7: the private sector has tactile ground surface indicators. We have
S7: high contrast signage as well. And all your wayfinding systems.
S7: So we are looking at ways so that we can
S7: maximize these sort of features for the community.
S8: We love hearing that, don't we, Tess? Absolutely. The more
S8: accessibility and public spaces, the better. Certainly. Anastasia, you've been
S8: a board member of the Victorian Pride Centre since April
S8: last year, so almost a year now. What's the experience
S8: been like for you? Has there been any surprises?
S7: It's really interesting, right? Because first of all, like how
S7: often do you see a woman of trans and of
S7: colour experience and being an asylum seeker and refugee and
S7: all of the fun things, being trans to be on
S7: a board, right. It's been a pleasant experience from a
S7: teamwork kind of perspective. Like my board colleagues, we are
S7: high functioning. We have a very high functioning board. We
S7: came from a wide range of life experience, professional background,
S7: because my background is in social procurement and socio economic development,
S7: people and culture. Whereas like my other board members, we
S7: we bring all of these different perspectives. And now we're
S7: diverse in gender. We diverse in age. And it's been
S7: quite a pleasant experience working together. There are some challenges
S7: because you have such a big dynamic team, but we
S7: managed to really create a safe space for each other.
S7: The only surprises would be, I think from a governance level,
S7: it can be this landscape here, the LGBTQ plus landscape
S7: has been constantly challenged, yes, socially, politically, environmentally. And I
S7: think that's the challenging part of it, because how are
S7: we going to navigate this heritage building to make sure
S7: that we grow? And then we to make sure that
S7: all parts of Victoria is connected to us and navigating
S7: through all of these landscapes. So that's a that's the
S7: surprising part.
S8: I could imagine. I mean, inclusion and representation is so important,
S8: and to have your voice in that conversation is obviously
S8: incredibly wonderful. And at that level, I'm on the board
S8: of the Pride Center is fantastic. So yeah, it gives us,
S8: I guess, as the queer community, a lot of faith
S8: in the fact that it's going to be something that's
S8: for everyone, which is really exciting. Yeah.
S7: And that's our goal.
S5: Yeah, yeah.
S6: Now let's get on to midsummer. And how the Victorian
S6: Pride Centre will be involved this year.
S7: So I think this year we were last night we
S7: just launched our Victorian Pride Center midsummer program. So that
S7: would mark our third consecutive collaboration together. And as an
S7: official hub for the midsummer team. Amazing. So this year
S7: we host 33 diverse events across January and February. It's
S7: a hub. We really amplify the queer voices through artistic
S7: expression and celebrate diversity through all of these exhibitions we have.
S7: We launched also events and we are also part of
S7: our midsummer program. This year we have some family gatherings.
S7: We have some tours, which is again being audio descripted
S7: again for everybody. Yeah, and some music performance, live music
S7: performances at the Price Center.
S8: Fantastic. I know one of my co-hosts on a show
S8: I do on Joy is having a screening of her
S8: film and also doing a live music and film event
S8: for her Love Rewind film, Demetra.
S5: Yes, of.
S7: Course we know Demetra. She's everywhere.
S5: Got to give.
S8: Demetra a shout out. Um, those events are on sale
S8: right now. So, as all the great things that are
S8: on it this summer, head to midsummer to find out more.
S8: Anastasia bringing you back to your role within the Pride
S8: Center and as part of the board. How is success
S8: measured for the Pride Center in terms of has it
S8: been a good investment for the LGBTQIA+ community?
S7: Now, yes, we have so much potential. And again, just
S7: to remind everybody, the Price Centre has just opened its
S7: doors since July 2021. Yeah. So strategically speaking, the first
S7: few strategic plans have been just about getting the door open. Yeah.
S7: So now we really like with our current strategy, we
S7: really hope to maximise everything. Right. And really bring it
S7: to make sure that, you know, it's truly built for
S7: the community. Now we measure our success through social impact,
S7: through community impacts, how many voices we have uplifted, how
S7: many people we have sort of connected to different resources,
S7: and how many sort of connections we have fostered as well.
S7: Because we are a very diverse community. We are growing, right.
S7: And so we hope that we can keep serving that purpose.
S7: So primarily speaking, we have been hosting events, but we
S7: have a few plans in place. So then really making
S7: sure our people are being looked after. Our culture shifted
S7: accordingly to the very challenging landscapes ahead.
S8: Yeah, yeah, that's so exciting. It is such a wonderful space,
S8: and I really hope, Tess, you get to visit it
S8: and give it your stamp of approval. It's got this
S8: incredible staircase that goes right through the middle of the foyer,
S8: which is, um, even for someone like me who prefers
S8: to take a lift, I can't help but run up
S8: that staircase because it's just. It's kind of fun.
S7: I wear heels all the time, and I. When I
S7: get there, I still want to walk that staircase.
S9: Yes, the.
S8: Staircase is a feature. I think it's a very queer
S8: feature as well. Very much going coming down it, I
S8: think would be a lot of fun.
S6: Well, I look forward to that, and I sincerely hope
S6: that I can come and visit you. And that sort
S6: of brings me to my final question. Where can listeners
S6: go to learn more about the Victorian Pride Centre and
S6: your midsummer events for this year?
S7: First of all, you can go on to precentor.org/midsummer 2025.
S7: And then you can find all of the events we
S7: have in there right now. I like to really highlight
S7: one of the key sort of shows to promote at
S7: the center is called Telling It with Pride Speakers program.
S7: It's free so the participants there can share their personal stories,
S7: showcasing the public speaking skill and also storytelling through different formats. Um,
S7: and you know, hopefully that, you know, through the price Center,
S7: we can elevate the voice. So then. Yeah.
S8: Wonderful. We love hearing that. Anything anything that like. Yeah.
S8: Uplifts and shares our stories is it can only be
S8: a good thing.
S7: And I think like through a partnership with Joy as well.
S7: We have a, um the big camp countdown. Countdown on
S7: on January 24th. So, um, yeah. So taking you through
S7: the top five queer anthems of all time and voted
S7: by our listeners. Amazing.
S9: Wow.
S7: Yes. So, please. Yeah.
S8: Look at something we can get behind.
S9: Oh, God. Yeah.
S6: I vote go west by Pet Shop Boys.
S9: That's my favorite. Nice. Aw.
S6: Everything possible. Sung by Judy small. That's pretty good, too. Uh, now,
S6: we've been speaking with, uh, Anastasia Lee, board member at
S6: Victorian Pride Centre. Uh, Anastasia, we just can't thank you enough.
S6: Thank you for joining us. It's been a fabulous chat.
S7: Thank you for having me. Thank you everybody.
S2: That was Conrad Brown and Tess Herbert there with Anastasia
S2: Lee from the Victorian Pride Centre. And that's all the
S2: time we have for this week's special edition of Talking Vision,
S2: covering a couple of interviews from the Midsummer Carnival Outside broadcast,
S2: which took place on the 19th of January at the
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