WEBVTT - Talking Vision 779 Week Beginning 5th of May 2025

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<v S1>From Vision Australia. This is talking vision. And now here's

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<v S1>your host Sam Colley.

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<v S2>Hello, everyone. It's great to be here with you. And

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<v S2>for the next half hour we talk matters of blindness

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<v S2>and low vision.

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<v S3>Most of the feedbacks come from able people are really

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<v S3>good to get some targeted feedback from people living with

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<v S3>a disability, and in particular people with low vision who

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<v S3>can try and assist the Council to improve its urban

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<v S3>design principles so that it can enable people with low

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<v S3>vision to access both our public realm areas and our

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<v S3>open space areas.

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<v S2>Welcome to the program. This week we chat with Councillor

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<v S2>Anthony Aitken from the City of Greater Geelong, who's here

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<v S2>to chat to me about a series of drop in

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<v S2>sessions and a survey which is open until the 12th

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<v S2>of May for people to have their say about how

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<v S2>to make the streets of Geelong that bit more safe

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<v S2>and accessible for people with disabilities. That conversation's coming up

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<v S2>very shortly, so make sure to stick around. And then

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<v S2>after my chat with Anthony, I catch up with Sarina Ovens,

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<v S2>CEO of Assistive Technology Services Australia, who tells us about

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<v S2>a couple of expos that ATS is holding in Perth

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<v S2>and Melbourne over the coming weeks. I hope you enjoy

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<v S2>this week's episode of Talking Vision. Are you a Geelong

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<v S2>resident with lived experience of disability or just an interest

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<v S2>in accessibility? Well, the City of Greater Geelong would love

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<v S2>to hear from you. They're currently holding a survey and

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<v S2>a number of drop in sessions to help shape their parks,

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<v S2>streets and public places to create more accessible spaces for

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<v S2>people with disabilities. And to chat with me all about this.

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<v S2>It's my great pleasure to welcome City of Greater Geelong

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<v S2>councillor Anthony Aitken to Talking Vision. Anthony, welcome to Talking Vision.

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<v S2>Thank you very much for your time today.

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<v S3>I'm very pleased to be here and thank you for

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<v S3>showing interest in Geelong.

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<v S2>No problem at all. Now firstly, Anthony, we're here to

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<v S2>discuss a bit of community engagement that the City of

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<v S2>Greater Geelong is seeking from local residents in regards to accessibility.

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<v S2>But before we get into the details of the survey

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<v S2>and feedback themselves, I'm keen to hear a little bit

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<v S2>more about your disability access and inclusion portfolio, as well

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<v S2>as the committee that you belong to, the Access and

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<v S2>Inclusion Advisory Committee.

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<v S3>Well, Sam, the first thing I'd like to disclose to

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<v S3>the listeners is I am an elected official with the

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<v S3>City of Greater Geelong, and I've been there since 2017.

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<v S3>But I'm also a person living with a disability. I'm

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<v S3>actually deaf. And I'm very fortunate that cochlear implants, um,

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<v S3>have given me hearing capacity. Um, and that's why I'm

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<v S3>able to be able to listen to you today and

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<v S3>also represent my community. And I think that's part of

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<v S3>the reason why, um, I'm involved with our access and

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<v S3>disability portfolio that we have in the city of Geelong.

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<v S3>And I chair the Access and Inclusion Committee. That committee

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<v S3>is an advisory committee to council, and it's made up

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<v S3>of other members of the community who are living with disabilities. Um,

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<v S3>it may be mobility issues, it may be hearing issues,

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<v S3>it may be sight side issues. Um, it may be, um,

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<v S3>mental health issues and it may be acquired disabilities. We

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<v S3>have had a number of people who have had accidents

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<v S3>that have had acquired brain injuries that sit on that

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<v S3>committee as well to the whole purpose of the portfolio.

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<v S3>And the committee is to elevate advocacy and issues associated

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<v S3>with people living with a disability in the community. And

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<v S3>I'm proud to say that I think we've done very

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<v S3>well with that community and also with the representation, by

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<v S3>giving a stronger voice to people living with a disability.

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<v S2>Fantastic. And that's also what we're, of course, here to

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<v S2>chat a bit further about. The City of Greater Geelong

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<v S2>is looking for public feedback to help shape your parks,

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<v S2>streets and public spaces. And as I understand it, that

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<v S2>covers two main projects, namely Public Realm and Open Space.

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<v S2>So could you tell us a little bit more about

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<v S2>Public realm and open space.

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<v S3>Look, there are two major strategies that the city's announced

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<v S3>public engagement in at the present time. Public realm is

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<v S3>actually spaces outside of our buildings. And what we're attempting

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<v S3>to do there is to identify spaces where people may

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<v S3>come and congregate to and actually how we can try

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<v S3>and improve them. And public open space is where we

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<v S3>have either organized sports or community activities. So it might

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<v S3>be like where there's a local program, where there's a

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<v S3>sporting field or where there's just public open space, which

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<v S3>is just available for people to come and use at

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<v S3>any particular time. The two strategies are separate, and what

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<v S3>we're engaging at the present time is the communities to

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<v S3>get feedback about both of them. An example is we've

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<v S3>got significant building structures in Geelong, but we've got these

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<v S3>public areas outside of them, and we really would like

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<v S3>to hear from the community how we could make those

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<v S3>spaces better and with our public open space, we really

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<v S3>want to try and make them as accessible as possible

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<v S3>for all members of the community, that they can feel

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<v S3>safe and access them and enjoy them. But I personally

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<v S3>have a very strong commitment to try to make sure

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<v S3>that our public spaces, both public realm and open space,

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<v S3>do meet accessibility requirements for people living with a disability.

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<v S3>Whether it is sight, as most Vision Australia people would

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<v S3>be who are listening to the broadcast today. But it

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<v S3>also includes people living with hearing loss or mobility issues.

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<v S3>And of course, you know those people that need access

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<v S3>to a wheelchair or something for movement. The design and

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<v S3>accessibility of our public spaces and public realm is really important.

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<v S3>And that includes like having pathways that go towards our buildings,

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<v S3>creating opportunities where there is existing tree canopy and mature

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<v S3>tree canopy that someone can access the shade under those trees.

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<v S3>And in public open spaces. It really is about how

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<v S3>we can bring everyone's needs together in the future to

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<v S3>make it an enjoyable space for them.

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<v S2>And Anthony, as I understand the public community feedback has

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<v S2>been open for just over a month now. What are

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<v S2>the sort of things you've already heard from the community,

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<v S2>especially in regards to accessibility?

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<v S3>Well, look, the first thing that's come back is people

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<v S3>said they want more public open space, and that probably

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<v S3>reflects what we all experienced during Covid, where our local

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<v S3>park actually became really important during that lockdown period because

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<v S3>we needed some space to actually meet and congregate in.

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<v S3>One of the challenges that we've got in Geelong is

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<v S3>that over the next 17 years, our population is actually

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<v S3>going to grow from 289,000 to an estimated 400,000 people,

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<v S3>and it means our public open spaces have become even

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<v S3>more important as more and more people are living in

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<v S3>our urban areas and high density areas means that they

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<v S3>will need public open space. So what the initial feedback

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<v S3>that we received is predominantly been about people saying we

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<v S3>actually need more public open space, but there's been some

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<v S3>really good feedback as well, too, about what type of

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<v S3>design materials we use for our footpaths, whether we should

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<v S3>be using concrete because it's much more accessible than gravel,

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<v S3>how we transition from grassed areas to public areas as

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<v S3>well too. And that discussion has certainly been taken by

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<v S3>the Council to consider it as well too. And what

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<v S3>we're also it's not part of this particular strategy, but

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<v S3>we are getting feedback as well too, about dogs and

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<v S3>animals in public spaces as well too. So we're trying

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<v S3>to channel that engagement. We actually have got a major

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<v S3>dog management project that's going on underway as well to

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<v S3>at the present time with engagement, but most people are

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<v S3>actually being really good to think about ideas about how

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<v S3>they can improve the public spaces and even simple things

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<v S3>like people saying that they do need water fountains in

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<v S3>public open spaces and even going back to that dog issue.

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<v S3>People are saying we do need to have more dog

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<v S3>bags for areas that the city is actually creating new

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<v S3>public open spaces as well too. The engagement process is

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<v S3>actually still open till the 12th of May, and we've

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<v S3>actually got a major drop in. People can actually access

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<v S3>it now online. And look at the council website and

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<v S3>we may talk about that a little bit later as

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<v S3>well too.

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<v S2>That's right.

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<v S3>But yeah, we really would encourage more feedback from people

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<v S3>living with a disability so that we can try to

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<v S3>target towards more accessibility. Most of the feedback has come

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<v S3>from able people are really good to get some targeted

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<v S3>feedback from people living with a disability, and in particular,

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<v S3>people with low vision who can try and assist the

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<v S3>Council to improve its urban design principles so that it

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<v S3>can enable people with low vision to access both our

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<v S3>public realm areas and our open space areas.

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<v S2>As you've mentioned there, the drop in sessions are very

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<v S2>quickly upon us. In fact, one of them's already just

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<v S2>happened as of this week. It was on the 30th

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<v S2>of April for people to head along then, but if

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<v S2>people have missed out, there's still time. They can head

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<v S2>along to a couple more. So let's get the details

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<v S2>about those two sessions on the seventh and 8th of May.

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<v S3>Well, what they are, um, Sam, is we recognize that

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<v S3>not everybody can just fill out forms through the online internet.

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<v S3>So there were three traditional face to face opportunities for

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<v S3>people to go and be interviewed for public engagement. The

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<v S3>second one was to occur at Drysdale, at the library there,

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<v S3>at the new library on Wednesday the 7th of May,

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<v S3>between 4 and 6 p.m., and the last one is

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<v S3>actually scheduled to occur out in North Lane at the

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<v S3>new Norlin Arc on Thursday the 8th of May, between

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<v S3>4 and 6 p.m. and we have missed the one

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<v S3>that was, of course, on the 30th of April, which

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<v S3>was at Wiki Niall, which is the civic administration building

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<v S3>in the centre of Geelong.

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<v S2>But that's okay, because as you've said, there's still opportunities

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<v S2>for people to have their say either in those drop

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<v S2>in sessions or through the survey itself. So let's get

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<v S2>the details of that survey in particular.

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<v S3>If people go to Geelong Australia.com. So all one word

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<v S3>Geelong Australia.com. There's a section called have Your Say. And

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<v S3>there is the opportunity to click on that section to

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<v S3>help shape our parks, streets and public spaces. There are

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<v S3>some accessibility. So if you need hearing or speech support

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<v S3>you can click on that. And it will actually read

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<v S3>out what is actually on the page. And there is

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<v S3>translation support as well too, if people have non-English speaking background.

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<v S3>but I suspect the hearing and speech support would be

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<v S3>really important for people with low vision. That can be

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<v S3>accessed through the council's website, and you are encouraged to

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<v S3>fill out that survey before the 12th of May at

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<v S3>5 p.m., when it will formally close.

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<v S2>But um, given the timing of everything and people may

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<v S2>not be able to get in touch during session one,

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<v S2>don't stress because as I understand it, Anthony, there will

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<v S2>be a second phase of community engagement happening later on

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<v S2>in the year for people around September. October? Isn't that right?

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<v S3>Yeah. Look, the way our engagement processes work is we

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<v S3>do our initial community engagement, which is what's occurring at

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<v S3>the moment. So that was between the 28th of March

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<v S3>and the 12th of May. And that's where we initial

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<v S3>get our initial feedback. And then the officers will actually

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<v S3>collate that information and collate other data as well to

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<v S3>to develop the draft strategies. And because this we have

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<v S3>so much public realm and also public open space in Geelong,

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<v S3>it's quite a big task. So that's actually occurring between

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<v S3>March and October of this year. And then there will

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<v S3>be a draft of each of the strategies will come

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<v S3>out and we will re seek public engagement. So you

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<v S3>are right for those people who are thinking that they

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<v S3>may have missed an opportunity to influence that, the draft

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<v S3>strategies will be released and we will seek feedback on

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<v S3>those draft strategies. So if there's some really important things

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<v S3>that have been missed that people want to present, they

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<v S3>will get that opportunity between October and November of this year.

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<v S2>Okay, wonderful. Well, in that case, Anthony, I think we

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<v S2>might get in touch in 4 or 5 months time

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<v S2>and let people know about how those phases have gone already,

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<v S2>but also, of course, invite people to take part in

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<v S2>phase two of the community engagement for open space and

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<v S2>public realm, and the strategies the City of Greater Geelong

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<v S2>is putting together to make the city more accessible for

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<v S2>all constituents out there. I've been speaking today with the

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<v S2>City of Geelong's Disability Access and Inclusion portfolio chair and

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<v S2>chair of the Access and Inclusion Advisory Committee, Councillor Anthony Aitken,

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<v S2>about the community engagement the City of Greater Geelong is

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<v S2>currently undertaking to improve the accessibility of parks, roads and

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<v S2>public spaces in the Greater Geelong region. Anthony, thank you

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<v S2>so much for your time today. It was a pleasure

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<v S2>to catch up with you.

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<v S3>Thanks, Sam, and thank you to all your listeners and

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<v S3>I wish everyone a great 2025. And it sounds like

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<v S3>we may have the opportunity to speak again towards the

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<v S3>end of the year, and I would welcome that opportunity

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<v S3>to come back and discuss some of the draft ideas

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<v S3>that have come out, and I'm pleased I encourage anybody

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<v S3>living with a disability Ability to be an active member

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<v S3>of our community and try and make sure that everything

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.519
<v S3>is more accessible. And those people who are making the

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<v S3>decisions listen and you are heard and we influence outcomes.

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<v S3>So thank you, Sam.

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<v S2>I'm Sam Corley and you're listening to Talking Vision on

0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:11.280
<v S2>Vision Australia Radio, Associated Stations of Reading Radio and the

0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:16.200
<v S2>Community Radio Network. I hope you enjoyed that conversation there

0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.880
<v S2>with Anthony Aiken. If you missed any part of that

0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.879
<v S2>chat with Anthony or you'd love to hear it again.

0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.680
<v S2>Talking vision is available on the Vision Australia Radio website.

0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:34.320
<v S2>Simply head to radio Dot. That's V radio Dot or

0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.359
<v S2>you can find the program on the podcast app of

0:15:37.359 --> 0:15:41.440
<v S2>your choice or through the Vision Australia library. Our next

0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:47.070
<v S2>guest is the CEO of Assistive Technology Services Australia or

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<v S2>Atsa for short, which is bringing their expos around the

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<v S2>country in particular over the next couple of weeks in

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<v S2>Perth and then Melbourne the week later. Her name is

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<v S2>Serena Ovens and it's my great pleasure to welcome her

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<v S2>right now. Serena, welcome to Talking Vision. Thank you very

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<v S2>much for your time.

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<v S4>Thanks for having me, Sam.

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<v S2>We're here to have a bit of a chat about

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<v S2>some upcoming expos that Azhar is involved with this month,

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<v S2>but before we do that, let's get a bit of

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<v S2>an overview of Azza itself and the work they do.

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<v S4>Thanks. So at the peak industry body for the whole

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<v S4>of Australia, for all of the organisations, be they manufacturers, distributors, suppliers,

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<v S4>retailers of a massively broader range of assistive technology for

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<v S4>people with disability and older people. We're also though a

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<v S4>registered charity. So as well as supporting the industry and

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<v S4>making sure that they're doing the right thing and selling

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<v S4>product accordingly and bringing in things that are legal and

0:16:55.710 --> 0:17:00.270
<v S4>fit Australia's standards, we also ensure that they ethically and

0:17:00.270 --> 0:17:04.429
<v S4>equitably cater for their end users. The people that use

0:17:04.430 --> 0:17:08.270
<v S4>that at and need to have it properly scripted, well

0:17:08.310 --> 0:17:12.790
<v S4>looked after, maintained, repaired and supported all the way through

0:17:12.790 --> 0:17:14.270
<v S4>their independence journey.

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<v S2>And following on from that, Serena, there's a couple of

0:17:18.990 --> 0:17:22.990
<v S2>expos coming up that we'd love to have a chat about.

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<v S2>Let's start off with the expo happening in Perth in

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<v S2>just over a week's time. That's pretty exciting.

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<v S4>It is fam. It makes for a busy time for us.

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<v S4>But we do have the Perth Expo, as you say,

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<v S4>on the 14th and 15th of May at the Perth Showgrounds. Grants,

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<v S4>and that's the first of 2 in 2 weeks, so

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<v S4>it'll keep us fairly busy. Perth, of course, is a

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<v S4>great place for us to be able to bring across

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<v S4>the country a lot of both local at suppliers and

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<v S4>of course, some of our suppliers come across from the

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<v S4>other side of the country to be able to display

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<v S4>and exhibit a broad range of assistive technology for people

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<v S4>to come and try to view and see what's out

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<v S4>in the market, to look at all the new technology

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<v S4>also for allied health professionals as well, to be able

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<v S4>to again understand what's out in the market so they

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<v S4>can support people with disability in terms of any of

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<v S4>the assistive technology that they need. So for, um, your

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<v S4>cohort in particular, there will be exhibitors. In fact, Vision

0:18:28.780 --> 0:18:31.300
<v S4>Australia themselves will be at I'm not sure if they're

0:18:31.300 --> 0:18:34.179
<v S4>at Perth or they're definitely at Melbourne. We've got different

0:18:34.180 --> 0:18:39.129
<v S4>organisations that will have things like pens that can read

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<v S4>text on a page. We've got blind spots coming along

0:18:42.970 --> 0:18:46.570
<v S4>to show people the different sporting activities that they can do.

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<v S4>Things like vision tech that have amazing magnifiers for people

0:18:50.530 --> 0:18:53.490
<v S4>with low vision and need different types of equipment to

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<v S4>help them actually read lots of different activities. Our expos

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<v S4>are the biggest at expos in Australia, and it's really

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<v S4>great to be able to get along and see what's

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<v S4>out there, because you would be blown away by the

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<v S4>amount of new technology in the market, certainly.

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<v S2>Yeah, those text to speech pens are incredible. I've heard

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<v S2>quite a lot about them now. Serena, what else can

0:19:19.450 --> 0:19:23.410
<v S2>people in Perth expect if they head along to the

0:19:23.409 --> 0:19:27.570
<v S2>Perth Expo? That would be unique perhaps to the Perth

0:19:27.570 --> 0:19:29.249
<v S2>event over the Melbourne one.

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<v S4>Are now they would see an adaptive fashion show which

0:19:35.010 --> 0:19:38.919
<v S4>will happen on the Thursday afternoon. It's free to attend,

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<v S4>and I should say that so that everyone knows that

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.800
<v S4>they can walk in the door. And if they pre-register,

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.200
<v S4>they'll be entitled to get a free coffee when they

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<v S4>come in as well. Not unique, but really good to

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<v S4>know because everyone loves the tea or coffee halfway through

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.639
<v S4>the day when they're getting tired and walking around. The

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<v S4>other thing I should let you know too, is that

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<v S4>I believe there are limited trains to the event as well,

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<v S4>so public transport is on hand for you to get there.

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<v S4>Unique to Perth will be quite a number of your

0:20:06.159 --> 0:20:10.199
<v S4>local suppliers and supports. So what we try to do

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.880
<v S4>with all our expos is, as well as bringing together

0:20:12.879 --> 0:20:16.159
<v S4>the industry, is ensure that we can capture as many

0:20:16.159 --> 0:20:20.800
<v S4>of the local supports, the local market so that you

0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.399
<v S4>can link with people that you may not know but

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<v S4>are locally on the ground, can support you both at

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.440
<v S4>the expo, but of course in your daily needs as well.

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<v S2>Okay, wonderful. Now, Serena, let's have a bit of a

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<v S2>chat about the Melbourne Expo, which is taking place the

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<v S2>week after the Perth event.

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<v S4>Yep. So Melbourne is happening on the 20th and 21st

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<v S4>of May. The Tuesday and Wednesday of the following week.

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<v S4>It's also at the Showgrounds, the Flemington Showgrounds in Melbourne.

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<v S4>It is our biggest expo of all the expos we

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<v S4>do across Australia. It is absolutely massive and we sell

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<v S4>out really quickly. We keep taking more and more space

0:21:03.310 --> 0:21:06.109
<v S4>and more and more exhibitors want space and it just

0:21:06.109 --> 0:21:09.030
<v S4>keeps getting bigger and bigger. So in Melbourne you can

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<v S4>expect to see the broadest range of equipment, home modifications online,

0:21:15.230 --> 0:21:21.430
<v S4>it um, automated information, pretty much anything and everything that

0:21:21.470 --> 0:21:24.109
<v S4>our industry provides.

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<v S2>And I suppose similar to the Perth event, there's quite

0:21:29.149 --> 0:21:35.109
<v S2>a few unique businesses and organisations specific to Melbourne and

0:21:35.109 --> 0:21:39.550
<v S2>Victoria that will be appearing at the Melbourne Expo, but

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<v S2>what else can people expect if they head along?

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<v S4>Yeah, there's a really big sports area in Melbourne, so

0:21:47.430 --> 0:21:51.070
<v S4>what they can see, there is a massive range of

0:21:51.070 --> 0:21:54.389
<v S4>different options for people that want to try out different

0:21:54.389 --> 0:21:59.350
<v S4>sporting events and activities. So things like pickleball, which has

0:21:59.389 --> 0:22:03.870
<v S4>become really popular again, I believe we'll have blind spots

0:22:03.869 --> 0:22:07.190
<v S4>on hand as well. I know that some of our expos,

0:22:07.190 --> 0:22:09.590
<v S4>and I have to be honest, I'm not 100% sure

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<v S4>of absolutely every different sporting event or group that will

0:22:12.830 --> 0:22:16.310
<v S4>be there. But we've seen things from basketball to rock

0:22:16.310 --> 0:22:21.590
<v S4>climbing to sailing to give people just the broadest range

0:22:21.590 --> 0:22:23.950
<v S4>of come and try events. So it's not only just

0:22:23.950 --> 0:22:25.670
<v S4>come and watch, but it's actually get in and give

0:22:25.669 --> 0:22:27.430
<v S4>things a go yourself as well.

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<v S2>And Serena, I understand both expos will be featuring a

0:22:32.899 --> 0:22:38.500
<v S2>seminar program to educate the wider public about the various

0:22:38.500 --> 0:22:41.180
<v S2>assistive technologies that are available.

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<v S4>Absolutely, Sam. Across all our expos, we run seminars throughout

0:22:46.340 --> 0:22:50.619
<v S4>both days at set times. Some of them are quite

0:22:50.619 --> 0:22:56.340
<v S4>focused for allied health and other professionals, but broadly, there'd

0:22:56.379 --> 0:22:58.900
<v S4>be quite a bit of interest for people to attend

0:22:58.899 --> 0:23:01.619
<v S4>any of those seminars. They're welcome to do so. Again,

0:23:01.619 --> 0:23:04.940
<v S4>they are also free, and you can find out what's

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<v S4>on by looking at either the programme on the day

0:23:07.500 --> 0:23:10.740
<v S4>when you get there, or by checking out the information

0:23:10.740 --> 0:23:13.820
<v S4>on the website that'll tell you about the different sessions

0:23:13.820 --> 0:23:16.699
<v S4>when they're running, where to find them, and decide whether

0:23:16.700 --> 0:23:19.939
<v S4>it's something you're interested in getting some understanding about.

0:23:19.980 --> 0:23:24.179
<v S2>Just to wrap up, if people would like to find

0:23:24.180 --> 0:23:28.859
<v S2>out a bit more about assistive technology suppliers Australia, or

0:23:28.899 --> 0:23:33.130
<v S2>perhaps sign up to or register or pick up a

0:23:33.129 --> 0:23:37.129
<v S2>ticket to head along to these expos. What's the best

0:23:37.129 --> 0:23:39.170
<v S2>way for them to do that?

0:23:39.690 --> 0:23:43.010
<v S4>Absolutely. So they can either go directly to our website

0:23:43.010 --> 0:23:50.730
<v S4>which is at dot org and that's at org, and

0:23:50.930 --> 0:23:55.169
<v S4>you can from there get into the ASA Independent Living

0:23:55.169 --> 0:23:59.129
<v S4>Expos via the events tab. And that will allow you

0:23:59.129 --> 0:24:02.489
<v S4>to jump on and register your attendance at any of

0:24:02.490 --> 0:24:06.010
<v S4>the events that we have. That registration, as I said,

0:24:06.010 --> 0:24:09.330
<v S4>is free for anybody to attend any of our expos.

0:24:09.450 --> 0:24:13.050
<v S4>And if you pre-register, gives you that free coffee or tea.

0:24:13.090 --> 0:24:17.290
<v S4>So recommend people doing that. Again our website is a.

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<v S2>Perfect. I've been speaking today with Serena Ovens, CEO of

0:24:27.010 --> 0:24:32.360
<v S2>Assistive Technology Suppliers Australia. Here to chat to me about

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.639
<v S2>the upcoming expos that will be involved with over the

0:24:36.639 --> 0:24:39.999
<v S2>month of May. Serena, thank you so much for your

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.600
<v S2>time today. It was a pleasure to catch up with

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<v S2>you and chat about the Expos.

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<v S4>Thanks, Sam. Really appreciate it and look forward to seeing

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.399
<v S4>yourself and your Vision Australia members there.

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<v S2>And now here's Frances Kalen with a radar recommended.

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<v S5>Thank you Sam. Today's reader recommended is about a city.

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<v S5>It's a love song to a city and a memoir.

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<v S5>It's called Perth and it's by David Whish-wilson. David Whish-wilson.

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<v S5>Perth is a place of surprising beauty, of sand swept

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.479
<v S5>peace and brilliant light, yet a place where the deeper

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.600
<v S5>historical currents are never too far beneath the surface. Like

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.199
<v S5>the Swan River that flows in two directions at once

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.719
<v S5>at certain times, with the fresh water flowing seawards above

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.590
<v S5>the salty water flowing in beneath it, Perth strikes perfect

0:25:31.590 --> 0:25:36.230
<v S5>harmony with the city's contradictions and eccentricities. We look beyond

0:25:36.230 --> 0:25:39.910
<v S5>the shiny glass facades, the boosterish talk of mining booms

0:25:39.909 --> 0:25:43.149
<v S5>to the richness of the natural world and the trailblazers,

0:25:43.149 --> 0:25:46.750
<v S5>the rebels, the occasional ghost and the ordinary people that

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<v S5>bring Australia's remotest city to life. Let's hear a sample

0:25:50.869 --> 0:25:53.710
<v S5>of David Whish-wilson book, Perth.

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<v S6>Twice a Day. The skin of the Swan River rises

0:25:56.710 --> 0:25:59.790
<v S6>in a small ripple as the tidal surge makes its

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<v S6>way from the river mouth at Fremantle, through Perth Water,

0:26:03.389 --> 0:26:05.830
<v S6>and up into the higher reaches of the river near

0:26:05.830 --> 0:26:10.190
<v S6>the fast growing suburb of Ellenbrook. Just over 20km northeast

0:26:10.190 --> 0:26:14.469
<v S6>of Perth in winter, when a layer of brackish water

0:26:14.470 --> 0:26:17.790
<v S6>runs off the scarp towards the ocean, the river flows

0:26:17.790 --> 0:26:21.909
<v S6>in two directions, with the freshwater flowing seawards above the

0:26:21.950 --> 0:26:26.870
<v S6>saline water flowing in beneath it. Today, the diurnal bulge

0:26:26.869 --> 0:26:31.109
<v S6>of water that reveals the incoming tide is invisible. It's

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<v S6>a Sunday morning, and I'm out on the river in

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<v S6>an open kayak with my Uncle Scott. My father's youngest brother, Scott,

0:26:40.430 --> 0:26:44.229
<v S6>moved from Tasmania to Perth as a teenager in the 1970s.

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<v S6>Like so many others, he stayed for the climate and

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<v S6>the lifestyle and the opportunity to work.

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<v S5>So that was Perth by David Whish-wilson. There was a

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<v S5>series of books by writers that wrote about the city

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<v S5>that they grew up in, and so there's ones for

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<v S5>all of the capital cities around Australia. If you would

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<v S5>like that book, or if you would like to find

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<v S5>out more about how the Vision Australia Library can work

0:27:08.669 --> 0:27:11.389
<v S5>for you. If you have a print disability, give the

0:27:11.389 --> 0:27:20.310
<v S5>library a call on 130654656. That's 1300 654 656. Or you can

0:27:20.350 --> 0:27:25.860
<v S5>email library at Vision Australia. Org. That's library at Vision Australia.

0:27:26.780 --> 0:27:29.820
<v S2>And that's all the time we have for today. You've

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<v S2>been listening to Talking Vision. Talking vision is a Vision

0:27:34.020 --> 0:27:38.180
<v S2>Australia radio production. Thanks to all involved with putting the

0:27:38.180 --> 0:27:42.340
<v S2>show together every week. And remember, we love hearing from you.

0:27:42.340 --> 0:27:45.820
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<v S2>word at Vision Australia dot. But until next week it's

0:27:55.740 --> 0:27:57.979
<v S2>Sam Corley saying bye for now.

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