WEBVTT - Talking Tech 11th June 2024 0:00:46.968 --> 0:00:50.898 Hello everyone. Welcome to Talking Tech. This edition available from 0:00:50.898 --> 0:00:54.648 June the 11th, 2024. I'm Stephen Jolly. Great to have 0:00:54.648 --> 0:00:58.188 you with us listening perhaps through Vision Australia radio associated 0:00:58.188 --> 0:01:02.268 stations of RPA Australia or maybe the Community Radio Network. 0:01:02.268 --> 0:01:05.238 There is also the podcast. To catch that, all you 0:01:05.238 --> 0:01:07.938 need to do is search for the two words talking 0:01:07.968 --> 0:01:11.028 tech and Dana can all come usually on a Tuesday 0:01:11.028 --> 0:01:14.568 afternoon just after it's been produced. Another option is to 0:01:14.568 --> 0:01:17.658 ask your Siri device or smart speaker to play Vision 0:01:17.658 --> 0:01:22.578 Australia Radio talking tech podcast Vision Australia Radio talking tech 0:01:22.578 --> 0:01:26.058 podcast with me, someone who can explain all this tech 0:01:26.058 --> 0:01:30.828 stuff really well. Vision Australia's national advisor on access technology 0:01:30.828 --> 0:01:34.458 David Woodbridge David's been working very hard from early this 0:01:34.458 --> 0:01:39.108 morning because this is the week of the Apple Worldwide 0:01:39.108 --> 0:01:44.658 Developers Conference. The keynote address taking place around 3 a.m. 0:01:44.658 --> 0:01:48.078 in Australia on Tuesday. David, welcome. 0:01:48.078 --> 0:01:51.258 Hello. Hello, hello. I'm I'm I'm still, still bright eyed 0:01:51.258 --> 0:01:53.268 and bushy tailed, which is actually quite amazing. 0:01:53.358 --> 0:01:56.328 So tell us about the event. What's your overall impression 0:01:56.328 --> 0:01:57.348 of the presentation? 0:01:57.348 --> 0:02:00.738 Well, as usual it was an excellent event. Again, Apple 0:02:00.738 --> 0:02:03.498 did it because it's all, you know, pre-packaged up in 0:02:03.498 --> 0:02:06.978 in a video presentation all done online. And of course 0:02:06.978 --> 0:02:10.758 that meant also that it was all audio described. So 0:02:10.758 --> 0:02:14.208 whenever they talked about certain things or certain things were 0:02:14.208 --> 0:02:16.848 happening that didn't have any talking over it, it was 0:02:16.848 --> 0:02:21.138 all audio described. It was absolutely fantastic. As with all 0:02:21.138 --> 0:02:23.898 Apple keynotes, you can just sit back and relax and 0:02:23.898 --> 0:02:26.508 take in both what they're talking about and also the 0:02:26.508 --> 0:02:27.708 audio description. 0:02:27.978 --> 0:02:30.498 Over the next little while, we'll take you through what 0:02:30.498 --> 0:02:33.558 was covered and to put it into context, these are 0:02:33.558 --> 0:02:38.808 really announcements for the interested public and for software developers 0:02:38.808 --> 0:02:41.208 that we really won't see for some time. 0:02:41.208 --> 0:02:43.638 So the thing to remember is that the initial stuff 0:02:43.638 --> 0:02:46.248 coming out this week is for developers only. So if 0:02:46.248 --> 0:02:48.768 you have a developer account, you can get access to 0:02:48.768 --> 0:02:52.218 all the different operating system betas straight away. If you're 0:02:52.218 --> 0:02:55.188 a developer, the public betas, which is for the rest 0:02:55.188 --> 0:02:59.688 of the general public, they don't become available until next month, 0:02:59.808 --> 0:03:02.538 and then quite a few of the features won't become 0:03:02.538 --> 0:03:07.488 available until the spring out time. So whilst they did 0:03:07.488 --> 0:03:11.058 make these announcements, not all the functionality they talked about 0:03:11.058 --> 0:03:13.788 will be actually coming out in beta one, beta two, 0:03:13.788 --> 0:03:16.578 beta three, etc. so this is all the stuff that 0:03:16.578 --> 0:03:18.888 got planned. That does not mean it's going to be 0:03:18.888 --> 0:03:20.238 available straight away. 0:03:20.238 --> 0:03:25.938 So let's go through Apple Vision Pro, Apple iOS 18, 0:03:25.968 --> 0:03:31.308 the watch OS 11, the iPad OS 18, the new 0:03:31.308 --> 0:03:34.578 Mac operating system. And then we'll talk a very interesting 0:03:34.608 --> 0:03:38.238 topic towards the end, Apple intelligence. Let's go back to 0:03:38.238 --> 0:03:40.398 the Apple Vision Pro. What's news there. 0:03:40.398 --> 0:03:43.098 So it's basically now going to be Vision Pro two. 0:03:43.098 --> 0:03:46.788 Remember I say these versions are all beta. And with 0:03:46.788 --> 0:03:49.188 the vision Pro of course which is a virtual headset. 0:03:49.188 --> 0:03:53.538 It's not smartglasses. Uh they updating stuff to do with 0:03:53.538 --> 0:03:59.088 spatial video, spatial photos. Um, they're also bringing up more 0:03:59.088 --> 0:04:03.258 gaming spatial applications for it as well, including video and 0:04:03.258 --> 0:04:07.308 audio spatial stuff. And one interesting thing which I thought, 0:04:07.308 --> 0:04:10.128 I wonder what the difference is. So when you're in 0:04:10.128 --> 0:04:13.848 an aircraft, there's a mode called airplane mode, which is 0:04:13.848 --> 0:04:15.888 you can watch, you know, a movie in front of 0:04:15.888 --> 0:04:18.618 you on your supposed big screen, but it's really the 0:04:18.618 --> 0:04:21.468 Vision Pro. Well, they've also got one called Train Mode 0:04:21.468 --> 0:04:23.838 coming out. So I'm just wondering, I wonder what the 0:04:23.838 --> 0:04:27.798 difference between between the actual airplane mode and the train 0:04:27.798 --> 0:04:30.678 mode will be. So, uh, stand by for that one. But, um, 0:04:30.678 --> 0:04:32.778 that was the main stuff to do with the Vision 0:04:32.778 --> 0:04:33.768 Pro itself. 0:04:33.768 --> 0:04:36.588 Just as an aside, Apple Vision Pro is coming to 0:04:36.588 --> 0:04:38.478 Australia fairly soon. 0:04:38.838 --> 0:04:43.758 July 12th and listen to next week's show, because I'm 0:04:43.758 --> 0:04:46.248 really going to go into the fact the differences between 0:04:46.248 --> 0:04:49.308 what's an AR VR headset, which is what the Vision 0:04:49.308 --> 0:04:53.928 Pro is, and smart glasses, they're completely different systems. So 0:04:53.928 --> 0:04:55.398 if you think your Vision Pro is going to do 0:04:55.398 --> 0:04:57.168 certain things, it may not. 0:04:57.468 --> 0:05:01.638 For iPhone people, the new operating system, iOS 18. 0:05:01.638 --> 0:05:04.008 So with iOS 18 there's a lot of updates to 0:05:04.008 --> 0:05:06.648 the home screen. Um, so you can change the look 0:05:06.648 --> 0:05:10.728 at look of it quite dramatically. There's a lot more 0:05:10.728 --> 0:05:15.138 controls available that you can add to the control panel, um, 0:05:15.138 --> 0:05:19.248 which is actually really amazing. And they've done a lot 0:05:19.248 --> 0:05:23.418 more with messages. So you can do things like you 0:05:23.418 --> 0:05:27.528 can generate your own. I think they call them gen emojis, 0:05:27.528 --> 0:05:30.438 as in generated emojis based on stuff in your own 0:05:30.438 --> 0:05:32.478 photo library. And you can do all sorts of weird 0:05:32.478 --> 0:05:36.918 and wonderful things. They've also updated stuff to do with 0:05:36.918 --> 0:05:40.278 what stuff is shared. So normally when you use an application, 0:05:40.278 --> 0:05:42.468 you've got to actually say what's going to be shared. Well, 0:05:42.468 --> 0:05:45.978 now you've got more control over that. The other big enhancement. Course, 0:05:45.978 --> 0:05:47.988 as far as I'm concerned to do with iOS 18 0:05:47.988 --> 0:05:50.208 is the fact that you will now, as in the 0:05:50.208 --> 0:05:54.408 iPhone 14 Pro and above, be able to send messages 0:05:54.408 --> 0:05:59.118 or SMS messages via satellite. So that's actually pretty amazing. Um, 0:05:59.118 --> 0:06:01.038 and the other one that stood out for me was 0:06:01.038 --> 0:06:04.128 the mail categorization. So it will try and put your 0:06:04.128 --> 0:06:07.038 mail messages in the categories. And also it will try 0:06:07.038 --> 0:06:10.248 and do a digest, which means it'll group all the 0:06:10.248 --> 0:06:13.038 same emails from the same company all together, so you 0:06:13.038 --> 0:06:14.958 don't have to go and find them. So they were 0:06:14.958 --> 0:06:17.718 the main ones that stood out for me for iOS 18. 0:06:17.718 --> 0:06:21.528 And like with emails, you'll now be able to schedule 0:06:21.528 --> 0:06:23.478 messages for a particular time. 0:06:23.478 --> 0:06:25.488 That's actually quite a good one. I like that one 0:06:25.488 --> 0:06:27.528 because sometimes I remember, oh yep, it's so and so's 0:06:27.528 --> 0:06:30.618 birthday tomorrow, uh, or anniversary. So you can schedule that 0:06:30.618 --> 0:06:33.468 to pop out the next day or whenever it might be. 0:06:33.468 --> 0:06:37.548 So that's iOS 18. Let's talk the watch now, watch 0:06:37.548 --> 0:06:40.908 OS 11 G. They put a lot of emphasis on health, 0:06:40.908 --> 0:06:41.538 don't they? 0:06:41.538 --> 0:06:45.588 They do. I get a bit annoyed sometimes because they're 0:06:45.588 --> 0:06:50.448 always talking about the elite sports, the runners and high 0:06:50.448 --> 0:06:52.908 end people that training all the time. I just wish 0:06:52.908 --> 0:06:55.218 they would make it for us. You know, general plebby 0:06:55.218 --> 0:06:59.928 type people that do general exercise. But I think for me, 0:06:59.928 --> 0:07:01.548 the main thing that stood out for me about watch 0:07:01.548 --> 0:07:04.908 11 is the fact that, uh, it's got a new 0:07:04.908 --> 0:07:07.818 app in it called vitals. So what that will do 0:07:07.818 --> 0:07:10.668 is it will actually try and put all the stuff 0:07:10.668 --> 0:07:12.918 to do, because we've still got it here in Australia. Uh, 0:07:12.918 --> 0:07:17.028 your heart rate, um, your calorie intake, your exercise. And 0:07:17.028 --> 0:07:20.268 it will keep generating summaries based on your past activities 0:07:20.268 --> 0:07:22.818 and that sort of stuff. So it's sort of like a, 0:07:22.818 --> 0:07:26.238 like a more simplified version of the health app on 0:07:26.238 --> 0:07:29.958 your iPhone. Um, but it looks really interesting. So for me, 0:07:29.958 --> 0:07:32.328 that was probably the main thing that stood out for 0:07:32.328 --> 0:07:35.058 me the most on, uh, watch OS 11. 0:07:35.058 --> 0:07:38.508 So that's the watch iPad OS 18. 0:07:38.508 --> 0:07:41.598 So the thing to remember about iPad OS is that 0:07:41.598 --> 0:07:45.708 it's actually really an updated version of iOS 18. So 0:07:45.738 --> 0:07:48.648 iPad OS 18 has all the things in it. Of course, 0:07:48.648 --> 0:07:51.768 that will be on your iPhone. The calculator will be 0:07:51.768 --> 0:07:54.708 coming to the iPad, which they made a big deal about, 0:07:54.708 --> 0:07:58.878 and of course this new thing called smart handwriting mode. 0:07:58.878 --> 0:08:01.008 So if you use an Apple Pencil to write on 0:08:01.008 --> 0:08:04.248 the iPad, it will tidy up your handwriting and make 0:08:04.248 --> 0:08:07.968 it look like your own handwriting. So I thought that was, um, 0:08:08.208 --> 0:08:11.088 was pretty nifty as well. And lots of other stuff 0:08:11.088 --> 0:08:14.988 to do. Like I've already mentioned with iOS 18. So again, um, 0:08:14.988 --> 0:08:18.738 incremental improvements and it's always moving on to, you know, 0:08:18.738 --> 0:08:21.888 what they're trying to achieve with these operating systems. 0:08:21.978 --> 0:08:24.528 The big announcement with the Mac, the name of the 0:08:24.528 --> 0:08:26.808 new operating system, Sequoia. 0:08:27.228 --> 0:08:31.368 I know I had to actually use my autocorrect to 0:08:31.368 --> 0:08:34.248 actually find out how to spell that. I wish they'd 0:08:34.248 --> 0:08:36.408 stop using weird names that nobody else knows how to 0:08:36.408 --> 0:08:38.868 spell outside the US. But at any rate, I talked 0:08:38.868 --> 0:08:41.058 about Safari and they talked about photos, and they talked 0:08:41.058 --> 0:08:43.518 about maps and they talked about messages and everything else. 0:08:43.818 --> 0:08:46.008 But the really cool thing for me in particular, which 0:08:46.008 --> 0:08:50.568 I found extremely interesting, was the thing about the continuity 0:08:50.568 --> 0:08:54.138 feature where you can control or access stuff from your 0:08:54.138 --> 0:08:57.198 Mac to your iPhone, and I thought, that's going to 0:08:57.198 --> 0:08:59.778 be looking very nice when I get my hands on it. 0:08:59.778 --> 0:09:06.948 So the operating system, Sequoia, Sequoia, there's a lot about 0:09:06.948 --> 0:09:10.878 connectivity across the Apple devices that continues, doesn't it? 0:09:10.878 --> 0:09:13.128 That's right. That's when they mentioned the continuity stuff to 0:09:13.128 --> 0:09:17.688 do with controlling your iPhone from your Mac. And they 0:09:17.688 --> 0:09:20.568 also had another little feature, which I don't know where 0:09:20.568 --> 0:09:23.118 it's going to be accessible for blind people in particular, 0:09:23.118 --> 0:09:26.568 but it's you can remote into somebody's iOS device. Now, 0:09:26.568 --> 0:09:29.148 they did mention the iPad, not the iPhone, and you 0:09:29.148 --> 0:09:32.058 can circle with your Apple Pencil on the screen about 0:09:32.058 --> 0:09:35.298 what the person needs to pay attention to. Or you 0:09:35.298 --> 0:09:39.288 can completely take control over that person's remote iPad and 0:09:39.288 --> 0:09:41.598 assist them in doing certain things, like adding a widget 0:09:41.598 --> 0:09:43.668 to the desktop and that sort of stuff. So I 0:09:43.668 --> 0:09:45.768 thought that was also quite remarkable as well. 0:09:45.948 --> 0:09:46.278 Um. 0:09:47.598 --> 0:09:49.578 And I guess the one that the tech media are 0:09:49.578 --> 0:09:53.118 really going to talk about is Apple intelligence. 0:09:53.118 --> 0:09:57.078 Isn't it lovely that the I just happened to mesh with, um, 0:09:57.738 --> 0:10:02.088 Apple intelligence rather than artificial intelligence? So the way they 0:10:02.088 --> 0:10:06.738 presented this was a very deep integration across the operating 0:10:06.738 --> 0:10:10.068 system itself and across all your applications. So not just 0:10:10.068 --> 0:10:13.248 Apple apps, but across all the applications. And there were 0:10:13.248 --> 0:10:19.488 very much focusing on, uh, language processing, um, text transcribing 0:10:19.488 --> 0:10:22.698 and image processing. So they went into sort of quite 0:10:22.698 --> 0:10:26.418 depth about all three of those, the tech stuff. People 0:10:26.418 --> 0:10:29.268 might remember the stuff in particular to do with ChatGPT. 0:10:29.268 --> 0:10:32.208 So you can do things like you can rewrite something, 0:10:32.208 --> 0:10:36.618 you can proofread something, you can ask it to summarize something. Um, 0:10:36.618 --> 0:10:39.378 you can get it to generate images based on what 0:10:39.378 --> 0:10:41.988 you type in, uh, because it's got a new app 0:10:41.988 --> 0:10:46.418 called Image Play. So you can actually. Creating your own 0:10:46.418 --> 0:10:49.778 images from typing in text. Um, it will do a 0:10:49.778 --> 0:10:53.828 lot of stuff privately, locally on your device. It will 0:10:53.828 --> 0:10:57.758 not go out to the internet, uh, only in certain situations, 0:10:57.758 --> 0:11:01.898 but your privacy will be absolutely maintained. Uh, so they 0:11:01.898 --> 0:11:03.878 were very careful to point out that, you know, it's 0:11:03.878 --> 0:11:07.178 all integrated. Siri, of course, will be using Apple intelligence, 0:11:07.178 --> 0:11:10.268 and you'll be able to actually have context when you 0:11:10.268 --> 0:11:12.518 talk to Siri now. So rather than it not knowing 0:11:12.518 --> 0:11:14.618 what you just talked about, you'll be able to have 0:11:14.618 --> 0:11:16.838 conversations with it. So they have done a lot to 0:11:16.838 --> 0:11:18.758 do with it. But again, it was a bit weird 0:11:18.758 --> 0:11:21.158 because it's all in built in, you know, it's machine 0:11:21.158 --> 0:11:24.638 learning in the background. I guess it wasn't so exciting 0:11:24.638 --> 0:11:28.208 as the Lawrence of, you know, ChatGPT or Gemini or 0:11:28.208 --> 0:11:30.218 those sort of ones that we've previously seen. 0:11:30.338 --> 0:11:33.338 But really the biggest change for Siri since it first 0:11:33.338 --> 0:11:35.288 came out in 2011. Yep. 0:11:35.288 --> 0:11:37.808 So it's probably about time it got updated. Um, it's 0:11:37.808 --> 0:11:40.448 been around for a long time, so hopefully it'll be 0:11:40.448 --> 0:11:44.348 it'll be up and running. But again, this integration of 0:11:44.348 --> 0:11:48.128 AI across the Apple operating system and applications is one 0:11:48.128 --> 0:11:49.688 of the things that's not going to be available to 0:11:49.688 --> 0:11:52.718 spring our time. And right at the end of the keynote, 0:11:52.718 --> 0:11:54.638 they did say they will be able to integrate it 0:11:54.638 --> 0:11:58.148 with ChatGPT. So if you want to get a menu 0:11:58.148 --> 0:12:00.908 or a story idea, you can ask Siri and then 0:12:00.908 --> 0:12:02.858 Siri will go, well, I don't know about that. I'll 0:12:02.858 --> 0:12:05.678 then go and launch ChatGPT with your permission and get 0:12:05.678 --> 0:12:07.388 that information and give it back to you. 0:12:07.598 --> 0:12:11.648 And this Apple intelligence stuff will roll out progressively over 0:12:11.648 --> 0:12:13.718 the year, won't it? We won't be hit with everything 0:12:13.718 --> 0:12:14.468 at the start. 0:12:14.468 --> 0:12:17.198 No, they didn't mention exactly when stuff will be coming out, 0:12:17.198 --> 0:12:20.708 but they did say welcome to the new age of AI. 0:12:20.738 --> 0:12:23.378 I have a fun time with us on this journey, 0:12:23.378 --> 0:12:25.148 at least over the next 12 months or so. 0:12:25.178 --> 0:12:27.398 What phones will you be able to get it all on? 0:12:27.398 --> 0:12:30.368 As far as the AI is concerned, um, it has 0:12:30.368 --> 0:12:33.248 to be the A17 chip and above. So that's the 0:12:33.248 --> 0:12:37.448 iPhone 15 and above or anything else with an a 0:12:37.448 --> 0:12:40.208 Apple silicon chip in it. So that's the M1, the M2, 0:12:40.208 --> 0:12:43.298 the M3 and M4. Um, so if you've got those 0:12:43.298 --> 0:12:46.808 types of devices, you'll be fine. Uh, but unfortunately, if 0:12:46.808 --> 0:12:49.538 you have an iPhone 14 Pro, you won't be able 0:12:49.538 --> 0:12:51.068 to use the AI stuff. 0:12:51.368 --> 0:12:54.668 One more thing I'd like to ask you about Apple AirPods. 0:12:54.698 --> 0:12:56.918 Yeah, this was actually really, really cute. And I'm assuming 0:12:56.918 --> 0:13:00.398 it's going to be the AirPods Pro second edition, because 0:13:00.398 --> 0:13:03.098 what it was was if you have an incoming call, 0:13:03.098 --> 0:13:07.718 you can either nod to answer the call or shake 0:13:07.718 --> 0:13:10.868 your head to dismiss or hang up the call. And 0:13:10.868 --> 0:13:13.328 I just thought, now that's really, really cool because what 0:13:13.328 --> 0:13:16.388 they said, sometimes it's been embarrassing. If you have to 0:13:16.388 --> 0:13:18.068 try and fumble for your phone and get it out, 0:13:18.068 --> 0:13:21.098 or try and say to the person, you can't talk now, 0:13:21.158 --> 0:13:22.298 or you need to do now when you get a 0:13:22.298 --> 0:13:24.908 phone call is even. Like I said, nod to answer 0:13:24.908 --> 0:13:27.038 it or shake your head to actually dismiss it. Pretty, 0:13:27.038 --> 0:13:27.728 pretty cool. 0:13:27.728 --> 0:13:30.338 So you'll be looking at this stuff over the next 0:13:30.338 --> 0:13:33.758 few months and telling us about it. As you progress. 0:13:33.758 --> 0:13:36.878 I will, um, I do have a developers account, so 0:13:36.878 --> 0:13:39.188 as soon as I get an email from Apple saying 0:13:39.188 --> 0:13:41.828 the developer stuff is ready to get downloaded, I'll be 0:13:41.828 --> 0:13:42.878 jumping straight in. 0:13:43.118 --> 0:13:46.388 There's other good material available for people to find out 0:13:46.388 --> 0:13:49.808 more about the event today, the Tech Doctor Podcast, and 0:13:49.808 --> 0:13:52.988 also the Living Blind, fully from Jonathan Mohsen. 0:13:52.988 --> 0:13:55.028 And also if you want a good summary of it, uh, 0:13:55.028 --> 0:13:58.028 if you go to Apple.com, don't go to the Australian one. 0:13:58.028 --> 0:14:00.968 At the moment at least. Apple.com also has a really 0:14:00.968 --> 0:14:04.358 good rundown of all the major features across what they 0:14:04.358 --> 0:14:06.668 talked about in WWDC today. 0:14:06.668 --> 0:14:10.148 So we'll be talking more about these new features in 0:14:10.148 --> 0:14:13.328 the Apple products over the coming weeks, and look forward 0:14:13.328 --> 0:14:15.368 to telling you about the new hardware when it gets 0:14:15.368 --> 0:14:19.358 announced in September. Indeed, before we go, a reminder of 0:14:19.358 --> 0:14:21.548 whether the details of what we've been talking about in 0:14:21.548 --> 0:14:23.648 this and previous editions of the program. 0:14:23.648 --> 0:14:25.628 As always, you can check out my blog site, which 0:14:25.628 --> 0:14:28.778 is David Wood Itbayat podbean podbean. 0:14:28.778 --> 0:14:35.138 Com David Wood budget podbean podbean. Com to write to 0:14:35.138 --> 0:14:36.278 the program, you can. 0:14:36.278 --> 0:14:38.258 Write to me at Vision Australia where I work, which 0:14:38.258 --> 0:14:43.028 is David Dot Woodbridge how it sounds at Vision australia.org. 0:14:43.028 --> 0:14:48.548 David Woodbridge at Vision Australia. Org this has been talking 0:14:48.578 --> 0:14:51.908 tech with me has been Vision Australia's national advisor on 0:14:51.908 --> 0:14:55.748 access technology David Woodbridge I'm Stephen Jolly take care. We'll 0:14:55.748 --> 0:14:57.278 talk more tech next week. See you.