WEBVTT - Interview Highlight: Tess and Polly from 'Nothing's Off Limits' 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:05.760 Welcome to this podcast made possible by Vision Australia Radio. 0:00:05.910 --> 0:00:09.539 Your community radio station visit via Radio dot org for 0:00:09.539 --> 0:00:12.930 more information on Vision Australia radio and our podcasts. 0:00:13.410 --> 0:00:15.630 Well, hopefully last week you caught up with the first 0:00:15.630 --> 0:00:19.439 episode of Nothing's Off Limits. If you didn't, well, shame 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:21.599 on you, but you can't make up for it because 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.210 there's lots more episodes to come. To tell us more about, 0:00:24.210 --> 0:00:27.930 we've got Polly Goodwin and Tess Herbert. Polly, how are you? 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.030 I'm ready. Grandstand's Peter, how are you? 0:00:30.060 --> 0:00:32.519 Terrific as well, and it's so great to catch up 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:32.970 with you again. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.550 It's lovely to chat with you again, Peter. It's a real, 0:00:35.550 --> 0:00:36.270 real pleasure. 0:00:36.340 --> 0:00:38.580 Well, Polly, we spoke to you when this was getting 0:00:38.580 --> 0:00:41.430 off the ground a few months ago. Now, for those 0:00:41.430 --> 0:00:43.730 that might have missed that or might be aware of that, 0:00:43.740 --> 0:00:46.110 the background of nothing's off limits. Just a bit about that. 0:00:46.140 --> 0:00:48.870 That's right. Gosh, yes, it was a while back now, 0:00:48.870 --> 0:00:52.260 wasn't it? So Nothing's Off Limits is a 10 part 0:00:52.260 --> 0:00:56.310 series being broadcast on Virgin Australia Radio, but also available 0:00:56.310 --> 0:00:59.040 as a podcast. And the idea is we wanted to 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.850 get expert people with lived experience together to talk about 0:01:02.850 --> 0:01:06.870 some of the really challenging topics that we avoid or 0:01:06.870 --> 0:01:09.839 don't know how to start the conversation around and talk 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.380 specifically through the lens of blindness and innovation. So we've 0:01:13.380 --> 0:01:17.340 pulled together 10 episodes each on a different topic, and 0:01:17.340 --> 0:01:20.130 we've had some amazing guests, haven't we test that have 0:01:20.130 --> 0:01:22.980 come in and just been so generous with their experience 0:01:22.980 --> 0:01:25.589 and their their wisdom that they've learned. So that's been 0:01:25.590 --> 0:01:26.370 such a joy. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.590 Tess, tell us a bit about your involvement then. 0:01:28.860 --> 0:01:33.800 Well, Peter, I actually interviewed Polly for Nothing's Off Limits 0:01:33.819 --> 0:01:38.340 on Talking Vision, which was quite wonderful late last year, 0:01:38.340 --> 0:01:40.560 and that was the first I'd heard of it. But 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.250 then after that interview, we had such great chemistry as 0:01:44.250 --> 0:01:46.410 one of the most fun interviews I ever did. Early 0:01:46.410 --> 0:01:51.120 this year, Polly contacted me and asked me to be co-host, 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.600 and I said yes because I had heard a lot 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.510 about nothing's off limits by then, and I knew that 0:01:57.510 --> 0:02:00.090 it really delved into some of those tricky topics that 0:02:00.090 --> 0:02:03.780 maybe didn't get talked about for blindness and low vision perspective. 0:02:03.780 --> 0:02:06.540 And as someone who's blind myself and I know who 0:02:06.540 --> 0:02:08.910 would have loved those kind of resources when I was younger, 0:02:09.180 --> 0:02:11.280 I just thought it was such a wonderful project. And 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.190 so I, yeah, that's how I became to get involved. 0:02:14.190 --> 0:02:17.790 And it's just been the most wonderfully rewarding project to 0:02:17.790 --> 0:02:18.550 be part of Polly. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.230 It's very well known, just that the podcast, the programme. 0:02:21.300 --> 0:02:25.770 It absolutely is. And as I say, hats off. Enormous 0:02:25.770 --> 0:02:28.440 thanks to our guests because they've been so open and 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.530 so frank about some, some really difficult topics, actually. And 0:02:31.530 --> 0:02:34.590 whether they're difficult because they're some we're talking about mental 0:02:34.590 --> 0:02:38.250 health or whether they're difficult just because everyone's faces, you 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.310 go bright red at that point. I think that, yeah, 0:02:41.310 --> 0:02:44.040 we've really kind of pushed the the title to the limit. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.570 So I think that's particularly interesting discussions now. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.750 Last week's show were the first show Tess has gone 0:02:51.750 --> 0:02:54.120 through where and if people have missed it, they can 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.060 get it from the podcast page. So wherever they get 0:02:57.060 --> 0:03:00.420 at their podcasts and Australia radio, nothing's off limits as 0:03:00.419 --> 0:03:02.820 part of that as well. Well, I can get it 0:03:02.820 --> 0:03:05.430 to their podcast catch as well. Tell us a bit 0:03:05.430 --> 0:03:07.440 about last week's show, then it does get a little 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.410 bit more. Well, shall we say, as sensitive as the 0:03:10.410 --> 0:03:11.340 series goes on. 0:03:11.940 --> 0:03:15.480 It does feature you're quite right. So yes, the first 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.350 episode aired on Vision Australia Radio and can be downloaded 0:03:19.350 --> 0:03:23.639 now as a podcast, and that was about nutrition and exercise. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.880 So physical wellbeing, as we call it, physical health and wellbeing. 0:03:27.180 --> 0:03:30.210 And we had a couple of fantastic guests with lived 0:03:30.210 --> 0:03:36.020 experience of keeping fit and healthy and overcoming obstacles of 0:03:36.030 --> 0:03:38.400 blindness and low vision to do that. And we had 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:43.050 a really interesting chat with Tyler in the US, who 0:03:43.230 --> 0:03:47.070 has actually created his own series of audio fitness apps 0:03:47.070 --> 0:03:50.370 where there's some great descriptions of workouts that people can 0:03:50.370 --> 0:03:53.070 do to keep fit. So we really got a lot 0:03:53.070 --> 0:03:56.970 of insights, and Jason, who is a bodybuilder, he talked 0:03:56.970 --> 0:03:59.460 to us as well about how he keeps fit and healthy, 0:03:59.460 --> 0:04:02.310 and they both had some great insights as to nutrition. 0:04:02.310 --> 0:04:05.790 So it was a fantastic first episode, and we're really 0:04:05.790 --> 0:04:08.700 hoping that people get a lot out of that because, 0:04:08.910 --> 0:04:11.130 you know, I know as someone who's blind myself, it 0:04:11.130 --> 0:04:13.920 can be very tricky figuring out how to, you know, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.960 how to do a workout, how to stay fit and healthy. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.390 So I'm hoping that will be really useful to our listeners. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.970 Jason, what is a great young man? He is a 0:04:20.970 --> 0:04:23.789 real estate agent by day, if you like, but he 0:04:23.790 --> 0:04:25.560 does a lot of things by night, if we might 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.719 put it that way. And he's also very, very keen 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.719 to get other people involved with things like the bodybuilding. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.719 I know that's one of his passions and not just 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.969 because he likes to do it or he thinks it's 0:04:35.970 --> 0:04:38.180 a good thing, but he likes others to get involved. 0:04:38.190 --> 0:04:41.219 It's a really tremendous attitude for for a person to 0:04:41.220 --> 0:04:43.260 have probably been. As I said, it does get a 0:04:43.260 --> 0:04:46.169 little bit more, well, a bit more sensitive. And I 0:04:46.170 --> 0:04:48.720 guess that's part of the raison d'etre of the program, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:49.050 isn't it? 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.539 That's right. We thought we'd break people in easily with 0:04:51.550 --> 0:04:54.930 the more approachable topic. But yes, we do move on 0:04:54.930 --> 0:04:59.430 to some. Some really, yes, some quite challenging topics. So some. 0:04:59.779 --> 0:05:02.480 We're doing one on mental health, and obviously we're very 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.850 aware that that may bring up some issues for people, 0:05:04.850 --> 0:05:07.340 but we hope. I mean, the 30 minutes just isn't 0:05:07.339 --> 0:05:09.469 enough to cover any of these, really, but we're really 0:05:09.470 --> 0:05:12.109 hoping that these are starts of the conversations. So giving 0:05:12.110 --> 0:05:16.609 you some signposting, exploring some of the questions that I 0:05:16.610 --> 0:05:20.630 think really need to be talked about. We are also 0:05:20.630 --> 0:05:23.330 looking at sort of I'm laughing out of nerves here, 0:05:23.330 --> 0:05:25.230 which just goes to show how they are off limits. 0:05:25.450 --> 0:05:27.920 Some more fruity programs, shall we say. So we've got 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.650 one on dating, which was a lot of fun to do. 0:05:30.650 --> 0:05:33.950 Some really great hits coming out of that. Some more 0:05:33.950 --> 0:05:38.060 stories as well from our guests. And then we're doing 0:05:38.060 --> 0:05:41.000 one as one on adult entertainment services and products, which 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:46.040 was so fascinating. And we learned a lot about, I guess, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.560 some of the challenges around accessing some of those things. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.859 But also, you know, some really helpful strategies about how 0:05:51.860 --> 0:05:53.539 to find out what's out there, how to find out 0:05:53.540 --> 0:05:55.940 what's right for you. And I think the last two 0:05:55.940 --> 0:05:59.870 episodes I'm very excited about because they were both directly 0:05:59.990 --> 0:06:04.640 suggested by the community and ones around the specific experiences 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.520 of being low vision. And we've broken out into a 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.039 panel format for that, which was a lot of fun 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.670 but just really insightful. And then the last episode is 0:06:13.670 --> 0:06:16.880 around kind of identity and community and that really challenging 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.300 subject of disclosure as well. So we do a whistle 0:06:20.300 --> 0:06:22.789 stop tour through all of the hard questions. But as 0:06:22.790 --> 0:06:24.349 I say, we hope these are just the start of 0:06:24.350 --> 0:06:27.320 conversations for you to go on and talk about with 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.200 friends and families and your friends. 0:06:29.210 --> 0:06:32.690 So that's on Wednesday evenings across the Vision Australia network. 0:06:32.690 --> 0:06:36.169 So in Adelaide, it's on tonight after this particular program 0:06:36.170 --> 0:06:39.560 or nine o'clock anyway, and then also in Melbourne and 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.440 Perth and also being repeated on the weekend tested the 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.230 mental health thing. I mean, that's really become much more, 0:06:45.710 --> 0:06:49.070 shall we say, mainstream if there's such a title since 0:06:49.070 --> 0:06:51.260 COVID has broken out, I mean, people seem much more 0:06:51.260 --> 0:06:53.840 comfortable to talk about mental health these days. 0:06:53.870 --> 0:06:56.779 Yes, I think I think you're right, Peter. And also 0:06:56.779 --> 0:07:00.260 with the introduction of telehealth, perhaps people have felt more 0:07:00.260 --> 0:07:05.300 comfortable to access some different mental health services. We spoke 0:07:05.300 --> 0:07:09.169 to two different guests, so one guest had lived experience 0:07:09.170 --> 0:07:11.540 and was able to, but also had training as a 0:07:11.540 --> 0:07:16.040 psychologist and was able to talk about mental health from 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.070 a disability from a perspective of somebody with a disability. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.040 And then we also talked to a pediatric counsellor who'd 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.530 worked for many, many years with young people dealing with 0:07:24.770 --> 0:07:27.620 issues of mental health and disability. So we really got 0:07:27.620 --> 0:07:30.260 two different spectrums, which I think will really help, because 0:07:30.260 --> 0:07:32.720 what a lot of people don't realise is that disability 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.380 and mental health can be quite interconnected, and sometimes there 0:07:36.380 --> 0:07:40.250 are separate issues that people who have a disability might 0:07:40.250 --> 0:07:44.960 face with their mental health in terms of grief, loss, acceptance, commitment, 0:07:45.050 --> 0:07:47.540 you know, all those kind of things. So I think 0:07:47.540 --> 0:07:49.400 it was really good to talk about all of that 0:07:49.580 --> 0:07:50.240 in the third 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.510 episode and possibly also tackle society as well. 0:07:53.540 --> 0:07:56.570 That's right. Yes, that's episode the next episode coming up 0:07:56.570 --> 0:07:59.480 so straight after your program. And we've kind of taken 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.700 it from two angles ones about how you can be 0:08:01.700 --> 0:08:04.160 safe in your home, and some have some really practical 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.400 skills to make sure that you're in control of your environment. 0:08:07.730 --> 0:08:09.860 But then we also had a couple of guests come 0:08:09.860 --> 0:08:12.590 in to help us explore how you can be confident 0:08:12.590 --> 0:08:15.890 moving around in different environments. What are some of the 0:08:15.890 --> 0:08:18.950 tips and tricks about making sure that you are in 0:08:18.950 --> 0:08:22.100 control of the situation? And I thought that was, I 0:08:22.100 --> 0:08:24.080 don't know about you, Tess, but I came away with 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.600 so many learnings from that episode. In particular, I think 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.390 about just some really good strategies about what you can do. 0:08:29.420 --> 0:08:31.730 Absolutely. I would agree with that. I think we had 0:08:31.730 --> 0:08:34.310 some really great guests who came at it from different, 0:08:34.309 --> 0:08:37.760 different directions, everything from orientation or ability to knowing your 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.820 rights and body language. That was a fantastic episode, and 0:08:40.820 --> 0:08:43.790 I'm hoping that our listeners will really, really get a 0:08:43.790 --> 0:08:45.170 lot out of that next Wednesday. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.630 Just full disclosure on my part. I was actually asked 0:08:47.630 --> 0:08:50.210 to answer a few questions as part of this series, 0:08:50.210 --> 0:08:52.790 and obviously a lot of people must have dropped out 0:08:52.790 --> 0:08:54.740 and they must have run out of paper rings. So 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.220 I was code for for a couple of hours. But 0:08:57.410 --> 0:08:59.510 you know, the people that were putting it together said, Yeah, 0:08:59.510 --> 0:09:02.090 you can be serious or you can be funny or, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.920 you know, if you want to hear your answers back 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.290 or it's going to reveal your answers or indeed, if 0:09:06.290 --> 0:09:08.569 you don't want your answers to go to where you 0:09:08.570 --> 0:09:10.650 can do that, as well as so no one's been pressured, 0:09:10.650 --> 0:09:12.820 no has been put in a position where. But yeah, 0:09:12.830 --> 0:09:15.500 I wish I hadn't said that or I feel uncomfortable 0:09:15.500 --> 0:09:19.250 answering that and did it by, yeah, feeling like they 0:09:19.250 --> 0:09:21.170 need to tell you there's nothing like that that's going 0:09:21.170 --> 0:09:22.699 on as far as this goes. Is there? 0:09:22.730 --> 0:09:28.400 No, no. We're very aware that we are covering topics 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.030 that can be very personal for people, sometimes very triggering 0:09:32.030 --> 0:09:34.460 when we start to talk about mental health and body image. 0:09:34.700 --> 0:09:38.329 So whether we're doing the Vox Pops or the guests, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.420 it's very important to us that people are aware that 0:09:41.420 --> 0:09:44.300 we only talk about what they're comfortable to talk about. 0:09:44.570 --> 0:09:47.330 And if they are not comfortable with what they have 0:09:47.330 --> 0:09:50.569 said with what has been recorded, we can change it. 0:09:50.809 --> 0:09:54.110 So it's very much about making sure that our guests 0:09:54.110 --> 0:09:57.800 or the people participating in the box pops are comfortable 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.480 and well and truly in control of. Process and don't 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.970 have to worry about going back and saying things again 0:10:02.970 --> 0:10:05.730 or taking bits out because, you know, I mean, especially 0:10:05.730 --> 0:10:08.520 those workshops, it is. So I mean, I guess and 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.690 ever so important, hearing those stories from people with lived 0:10:12.690 --> 0:10:15.900 experience of blindness and low vision as well as experts. 0:10:16.140 --> 0:10:20.010 It's just wonderful and actually hearing the voices not just 0:10:20.010 --> 0:10:22.350 not just reports, but actually hearing the voices in the 0:10:22.350 --> 0:10:24.510 Vox Pops, I think is going to be at a 0:10:24.510 --> 0:10:27.510 real richness to it. So it's very important that everyone 0:10:27.510 --> 0:10:31.050 feels comfortable and that they are. The boundaries are very 0:10:31.050 --> 0:10:32.040 much respected, 0:10:32.070 --> 0:10:35.170 yet test is absolutely right. And that's a great great question, Peter. 0:10:35.190 --> 0:10:37.890 I think, you know, whilst it's called, nothing's off limits, 0:10:37.890 --> 0:10:39.719 the only thing that were off limits were things which 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.630 people weren't comfortable talking about, and we were lucky to 0:10:42.630 --> 0:10:45.060 be able to pre record everything so that all of 0:10:45.059 --> 0:10:46.500 our guests can kind of go away and have a 0:10:46.500 --> 0:10:49.350 think and we can re-edit around what they're comfortable with. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.780 This is a focal point here on Vision Australia writing 0:10:51.780 --> 0:10:54.690 Westpac to public good, but in Test Urban about nothing's 0:10:54.690 --> 0:10:57.750 off limits. The brand new program that's just started on 0:10:57.750 --> 0:11:00.449 Vision Australia radio at nine o'clock Wednesday evenings on the 0:11:00.450 --> 0:11:04.859 visually writing network, also repeated on weekends. Polly was there 0:11:04.860 --> 0:11:07.020 one thing that stood out for you as far as 0:11:07.020 --> 0:11:09.530 this goes? And then I'll ask the same question 0:11:09.540 --> 0:11:12.720 Oh, do I only get one? Oh, Peter, oh yes. 0:11:12.730 --> 0:11:15.250 Nothing is off limits. Only one thing's off. Why do 0:11:15.270 --> 0:11:15.840 you choose? 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.800 Oh my word. Okay? Erm, I think the thing that 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.550 struck me most was, I think in a mental health episode, 0:11:23.550 --> 0:11:27.240 which was so many interesting stories and so much good 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.430 advice came out. But the thing that really struck me 0:11:29.429 --> 0:11:31.890 was the advice that I had had to be proactive 0:11:31.890 --> 0:11:34.170 about your mental health. So in the same way as 0:11:34.170 --> 0:11:36.599 you know, you might go for a brisk walk or, 0:11:36.630 --> 0:11:39.000 you know, mind eating healthily or whatever it be to 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.640 kind of take that proactive approach to your physical health. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.860 The idea that there are steps you can take to 0:11:43.860 --> 0:11:46.230 kind of bolster your mental health as well, not just 0:11:46.230 --> 0:11:48.390 when you're in a period of crisis. And that was 0:11:48.390 --> 0:11:51.329 a very powerful thing for me to test me. 0:11:51.330 --> 0:11:55.709 I would say that happened with the episode on dating. 0:11:56.670 --> 0:11:59.730 So we spoke to three different guests who just had 0:11:59.730 --> 0:12:03.900 so many wonderful, wonderful things to say about that. And 0:12:03.900 --> 0:12:06.839 I felt like I really learned a lot about how 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.170 we can pick up on a lot of non-visual clues 0:12:10.410 --> 0:12:12.839 to make sure that, you know, the person we're going 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.059 out on a date with is comfortable and how we 0:12:15.059 --> 0:12:16.710 can give a lot of clues, you know, are just 0:12:16.710 --> 0:12:20.040 so many great tips and strategies that they gave and 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.890 taking dating from all sorts of different directions. So not 0:12:22.890 --> 0:12:25.170 everyone use the online apps, but a lot of the 0:12:25.170 --> 0:12:28.770 advice was quite similar in terms of how important body 0:12:28.770 --> 0:12:32.100 language is, how important it is to engage with confidence 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.940 and how you really can. You know, visual yes, visual 0:12:35.940 --> 0:12:39.030 body language is can be important, but it's not the 0:12:39.030 --> 0:12:40.560 be all and end all. And I think that was 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.960 a really, really powerful thing that I took from that, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.360 that we really can use so many different things to 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.859 communicate when we're on a date. 0:12:46.950 --> 0:12:49.980 OK, so this 10 episodes, the first one's gone to air, 0:12:49.980 --> 0:12:53.980 but it is available through the podcast app or through 0:12:54.250 --> 0:12:57.179 Australia's website, and you can podcast that nothing is off 0:12:57.179 --> 0:12:59.430 limits to what to look for. Holly, thank you so 0:12:59.429 --> 0:13:01.530 much for speaking to us. Anything you'd like to sign 0:13:01.530 --> 0:13:04.590 in closing, obviously, we are encouraging people to listen in, 0:13:04.590 --> 0:13:06.780 and if they can't hear it live to air, then 0:13:07.020 --> 0:13:08.760 they can certainly podcast. I think one of the great 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.170 things about this particular venture, if you like, is often 0:13:13.170 --> 0:13:14.790 we hear all you know you can podcast this or 0:13:14.809 --> 0:13:17.939 podcast that was, oh, I don't know, the podcast. I 0:13:17.940 --> 0:13:21.180 don't like podcasts. The great thing about this particular show 0:13:21.179 --> 0:13:23.670 is you can hear it the old fashioned way, like 0:13:23.670 --> 0:13:25.559 on the radio. And even if you miss it, if 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.270 you'd like to hear it again and go to the website. 0:13:27.270 --> 0:13:29.670 So I think that's a fantastic initiative. 0:13:29.700 --> 0:13:33.450 Yeah, that's absolutely right. And someone described podcast brilliantly to 0:13:33.450 --> 0:13:36.130 me the other day as showing my age here. A 0:13:36.150 --> 0:13:38.460 podcast is really no different from when you recorded something 0:13:38.460 --> 0:13:40.470 off the radio and listened to it again later, which 0:13:40.470 --> 0:13:42.360 is saving you the bottom of having to record it 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.700 in the first place. So yet you can head on 0:13:44.700 --> 0:13:47.370 to our website. Also, I should add that with each episode, 0:13:47.370 --> 0:13:50.699 we've pulled together a resources sheet that you can download, 0:13:50.700 --> 0:13:53.310 so that sort of anything that was mentioned in the podcast, 0:13:53.309 --> 0:13:55.440 all of those links and addresses will be in there 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.120 and some other things that we didn't have time to 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.179 put in as well. So do check it out on there. 0:14:00.179 --> 0:14:01.319 Nothing's off limits page. 0:14:01.350 --> 0:14:03.510 Terrific. Tess, good to catch up with you again. I'm 0:14:03.510 --> 0:14:06.960 sure this might be the last time we hear from you. And, well, congratulations. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.470 I've heard the first step aside. I actually I missed 0:14:10.470 --> 0:14:11.820 it on the radio. Well, actually, I was on the 0:14:11.820 --> 0:14:14.819 way home from the radio station that particular night, so 0:14:14.820 --> 0:14:18.270 I missed it. But I did download certainly those people 0:14:18.270 --> 0:14:21.210 who download any of our stuff. It's quite straightforward to download, 0:14:21.220 --> 0:14:23.820 so they should have any problems too. So thank you. 0:14:23.940 --> 0:14:26.220 Thank you, Peter, and I'm so glad you enjoyed it 0:14:26.220 --> 0:14:27.820 and I hope everyone else does as well. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.790 I'm looking forward to some of the but they probably 0:14:29.790 --> 0:14:31.710 say freaky stuff that's coming up later. 0:14:34.220 --> 0:14:37.560 Yes. Yes. We're not under promising there. No. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:42.450 OK, well, yeah. But if I deliver, we'll get you back. Mike, 0:14:42.450 --> 0:14:43.050 you explain 0:14:43.890 --> 0:14:45.480 any lead feedback? 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.050 Well, the thing is to just quickly, if people got 0:14:49.050 --> 0:14:51.750 any responses to it, they can get in touch the 0:14:51.750 --> 0:14:55.410 usual ways about it because I'm sure with anything when 0:14:55.410 --> 0:14:58.380 it comes to broadcasting, you sort of love doing it, 0:14:58.380 --> 0:15:01.860 but it's also nice. Get some feedback and constructive criticism 0:15:01.860 --> 0:15:02.790 is welcome as well. 0:15:02.820 --> 0:15:06.390 Absolutely. We we were so welcome any feedback you have 0:15:06.390 --> 0:15:08.640 if we get the opportunity to do a second series, 0:15:08.650 --> 0:15:10.770 we want to improve it. We want to make it 0:15:10.770 --> 0:15:13.560 reflect what our listeners want so you can drop us 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.550 an email that nothing's off limits at Vision Australia dot org. 0:15:17.850 --> 0:15:20.740 No apostrophe. So sorry for the grammar nuts, but that's 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.070 there aren't apostrophes in email address. It's not something else 0:15:23.070 --> 0:15:24.030 I learned in this project. 0:15:24.990 --> 0:15:26.850 Someone just sent me a text saying, Can you make 0:15:26.850 --> 0:15:28.350 it more free to you next time? So I'm not 0:15:28.350 --> 0:15:31.310 quite sure what they're about, but I really want to 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.260 leave it there. I like so much. Thanks so much, 0:15:34.260 --> 0:15:35.460 Polly and Tess. Appreciate that. 0:15:35.820 --> 0:15:36.360 Thank you. 0:15:36.390 --> 0:15:38.940 Thank you, guys. So that's so nothing is off limits. 0:15:39.030 --> 0:15:42.780 Wednesday evening at 9:00 p.m. on the East Australia radio network, 0:15:42.780 --> 0:15:46.130 repeated Sunday in Melbourne and Perth and Saturday nights in 0:15:46.140 --> 0:15:46.560 that light. 0:15:47.370 --> 0:15:51.810 This podcast was made possible by Fusion Australia Radio Visit 0:15:51.810 --> 0:15:56.790 via Radio dot org for information on Vision Australia radio news, interviews, 0:15:56.790 --> 0:16:00.990 reviews and more of our podcasts via radio dot org.