WEBVTT - Talking Tech 12th September 2023 0:00:44.089 --> 0:00:47.539 Hello everyone. Welcome to Talking Tech. This edition available from 0:00:47.539 --> 0:00:51.349 September the 12th, 2023. I'm Stephen Jolly. Great to have 0:00:51.349 --> 0:00:54.739 you with us wherever you're listening, perhaps through Vision Australia radio, 0:00:54.739 --> 0:00:59.089 associated Stations of Australia or maybe the Community Radio Network, 0:00:59.269 --> 0:01:01.699 there is also the podcast. If you haven't caught up 0:01:01.699 --> 0:01:04.189 with that yet, all you need to do is search 0:01:04.189 --> 0:01:07.279 for the two words. Talking tech and Downer can all 0:01:07.279 --> 0:01:10.969 come usually on a Tuesday afternoon just after it's been produced. 0:01:11.779 --> 0:01:14.449 Another option is to ask a Siri device or smart 0:01:14.449 --> 0:01:19.909 speaker to play Vision Australia Radio Talking Tech Podcast. Vision 0:01:19.909 --> 0:01:24.859 Australia Radio Talking Tech podcast. With me someone who can 0:01:24.859 --> 0:01:28.549 explain all this tech stuff really well. Vision Australia's National 0:01:28.549 --> 0:01:34.999 Advisor on Access Technology, David Woodbridge. David, we're really centering 0:01:35.179 --> 0:01:40.309 this presentation around September the 12th because it's really the 0:01:40.309 --> 0:01:43.519 day of the start of Christmas time at Apple. 0:01:43.789 --> 0:01:46.519 It is indeed. So for all you Apple geeks out 0:01:46.519 --> 0:01:49.129 there this week and next week is really going to 0:01:49.129 --> 0:01:52.459 be filled with lots and lots of Apple. Goodness, I 0:01:52.459 --> 0:01:55.309 promised that I would do other stuff after that. But yes, 0:01:55.309 --> 0:01:58.219 like you said, Stephen, this is the best time of 0:01:58.219 --> 0:02:00.859 the year for me as an Apple geeky person to 0:02:00.859 --> 0:02:04.699 really get stuck into looking at both what's current and 0:02:04.909 --> 0:02:07.579 what's happened with Apple over the years. 0:02:07.789 --> 0:02:12.739 So in short, there's a keynote address which takes place 0:02:12.739 --> 0:02:19.699 at around 3 a.m. Eastern Australian Time from Apple in California. 0:02:20.089 --> 0:02:24.589 That's on Wednesday morning the 13th that will talk about 0:02:24.589 --> 0:02:29.119 new Apple hardware. And it'll also make announcements about the 0:02:29.119 --> 0:02:34.519 release of new Apple software. So let's start by telling 0:02:34.519 --> 0:02:37.399 people how they can gain access to this either at 0:02:37.399 --> 0:02:39.859 3 a.m. time or later on. 0:02:40.129 --> 0:02:42.859 The trick is, if you want to listen to this live, 0:02:42.859 --> 0:02:45.949 as in 3 a.m., then you can go to the 0:02:45.949 --> 0:02:50.549 apple.com dot org slash events page. And I said you 0:02:50.569 --> 0:02:53.539 because we're in Australia. If you're not, then just get 0:02:53.539 --> 0:02:55.789 rid of the dot bit so you can listen to 0:02:55.789 --> 0:03:00.229 it live mostly on safari. You can also cause listen 0:03:00.229 --> 0:03:02.449 to it on your Apple TV. But the easiest way 0:03:02.449 --> 0:03:05.539 to do it is wherever you are, run safari and 0:03:05.539 --> 0:03:08.959 hey presto on your iPhone, iPad, Mac and the Apple 0:03:08.989 --> 0:03:11.509 TV specifically because it's got they've actually got an Apple 0:03:11.509 --> 0:03:12.469 keynote channel. 0:03:12.679 --> 0:03:15.079 And you can find it on that Apple page later 0:03:15.079 --> 0:03:16.099 on in the week, can't you? 0:03:16.279 --> 0:03:19.399 Exactly. So what what they do with that page is 0:03:19.399 --> 0:03:22.999 that after the event they then leave it up there 0:03:22.999 --> 0:03:26.299 and then as new keynotes come on board if you like. 0:03:26.299 --> 0:03:29.149 So hopefully we're having one in October. Then it goes 0:03:29.149 --> 0:03:33.529 into the latest or recent keynote so you can go 0:03:33.529 --> 0:03:35.209 back and listen to them. In fact, you can go 0:03:35.209 --> 0:03:38.229 back quite a long time. So the events page will 0:03:38.229 --> 0:03:40.099 let you listen to the current one as of this 0:03:40.099 --> 0:03:42.619 week or listen to it a bit later and go 0:03:42.619 --> 0:03:45.859 back and listen to other keynotes going back in history, 0:03:45.859 --> 0:03:46.429 if you like. 0:03:46.609 --> 0:03:49.039 Tell us about the Twit TV live coverage. 0:03:49.339 --> 0:03:53.269 The Twit TV network, Leo Laporte and Co always do 0:03:53.269 --> 0:03:56.329 a really interesting broadcast. So what they do is that 0:03:56.329 --> 0:04:00.109 they have the the keynotes that are playing and then 0:04:00.109 --> 0:04:03.409 they make comments about the keynote. Now I'll just give 0:04:03.409 --> 0:04:06.169 you a warning now is that they do talk over 0:04:06.199 --> 0:04:09.319 the presentation. So if you really, really want to listen 0:04:09.319 --> 0:04:12.649 to the presentation, then don't do this one. If you're 0:04:12.649 --> 0:04:16.309 interested in tech journalists point of view of what's being 0:04:16.309 --> 0:04:21.169 spoken about, like maybe a new camera, new battery, new screen, 0:04:21.169 --> 0:04:23.179 all that sort of cool stuff, then the Twit network 0:04:23.179 --> 0:04:26.629 is absolutely fine. And of course this also comes out 0:04:26.629 --> 0:04:30.559 as a special on their Twit podcast network and you 0:04:30.559 --> 0:04:35.269 can find everything on their website at Twitch.tv. But again, 0:04:35.269 --> 0:04:37.909 like the Apple Link, I'll have this link in the 0:04:37.909 --> 0:04:40.639 show notes for you as well. So remember 3 a.m., 0:04:41.209 --> 0:04:43.009 listen to the Apple keynote or you can listen to 0:04:43.009 --> 0:04:45.039 the Twit TV broadcast here. 0:04:45.439 --> 0:04:48.109 And in Australia. If you wake up at a civilised time, 0:04:48.109 --> 0:04:49.819 where can you get information about it? 0:04:50.239 --> 0:04:52.999 There's going to be lots and lots of stuff coming 0:04:52.999 --> 0:04:56.449 out from Apple as we all know. So I always 0:04:56.449 --> 0:04:58.969 like going to. My first point of call is always 0:04:58.969 --> 0:05:03.949 apple bits and of course that's the community related website 0:05:03.949 --> 0:05:07.459 for everything to do with Apple stuff for blind and 0:05:07.459 --> 0:05:10.879 low vision folks. And I'm sure Thomas Donovan will be 0:05:10.879 --> 0:05:14.719 releasing a whole raft of demos and I'm assuming they'll 0:05:14.719 --> 0:05:16.999 be doing a, a bit of a special podcast on 0:05:16.999 --> 0:05:19.159 all the hardware releases. And if they don't, they'll definitely 0:05:19.159 --> 0:05:20.629 be a blog article about them. 0:05:20.629 --> 0:05:23.719 Yeah, and he's demos will be of the new features 0:05:23.719 --> 0:05:26.619 in the software, particularly the iOS software won't it. 0:05:26.929 --> 0:05:28.849 Correct. Yeah, because it's going to take them a little 0:05:28.849 --> 0:05:31.789 time to write up a blog article about all the 0:05:31.789 --> 0:05:34.609 new hardware that gets announced this week. But I'm sure 0:05:34.609 --> 0:05:37.579 he's already got the all the other podcast on on 0:05:37.819 --> 0:05:42.109 iOS 17, etcetera. Let's not forget Jonathan Mazin in the 0:05:42.109 --> 0:05:45.909 Living Mindfully. Here we go. So I'm shaming him and 0:05:45.909 --> 0:05:50.049 his daughter while we're doing their tricks. On having her 0:05:50.049 --> 0:05:53.889 describe the keynote as it's being presented. So that sounds really, 0:05:53.889 --> 0:05:54.639 really interesting. 0:05:54.639 --> 0:05:58.329 So for Living Blind Philly Plus subscribers, you'll be able 0:05:58.329 --> 0:06:00.789 to get that within a few hours. Others will get 0:06:00.789 --> 0:06:03.009 it in about three days time around Saturday. 0:06:03.219 --> 0:06:05.529 That's right. And look, I've also been asked to do 0:06:05.529 --> 0:06:08.739 my normal tech doctor blog and podcast, so I'll be 0:06:08.739 --> 0:06:13.599 doing mine on Wednesday morning the 13th, which will be 0:06:13.599 --> 0:06:17.619 about three hours after the actual keynotes finished. So by 0:06:17.619 --> 0:06:19.209 the time you've had this, hopefully you've not listened to 0:06:19.209 --> 0:06:21.099 it live, then you'll be able to download the tech 0:06:21.099 --> 0:06:24.519 doctor blog and podcast and listen to Robert Ellison and 0:06:24.519 --> 0:06:27.009 me talk about the Apple keynote event as well. 0:06:27.159 --> 0:06:31.059 Robert Carter always does a good job leading those. I've 0:06:31.059 --> 0:06:33.579 got a suggestion too, for people if they'd like to 0:06:33.579 --> 0:06:37.179 catch up with the Apple News early Wednesday morning Australian time, 0:06:37.419 --> 0:06:41.529 like when you're up and about after the event. BBC 0:06:41.529 --> 0:06:45.489 News have an app and in the technology section of 0:06:45.489 --> 0:06:48.519 that app there's always a very good write up of 0:06:48.519 --> 0:06:51.519 the event and it's a good overview of the event. 0:06:51.519 --> 0:06:54.459 It doesn't just focus on accessibility, it doesn't just focus 0:06:54.459 --> 0:06:57.219 on anything. So it's a good one to to have 0:06:57.219 --> 0:06:58.769 a look at if you want to know what happened. 0:06:58.779 --> 0:07:00.009 Big picture stuff. 0:07:00.129 --> 0:07:02.799 That's correct. And the other sources I always go to 0:07:02.799 --> 0:07:06.129 as well for sort of mainstream news about all the 0:07:06.129 --> 0:07:08.199 stuff happening in the tech world, including the Apple stuff 0:07:08.259 --> 0:07:12.429 is imore. So remember I more.com is absolutely amazing. They'll 0:07:12.429 --> 0:07:15.219 also produce some podcasts as well, but they have really 0:07:15.219 --> 0:07:18.699 good breakdowns of the whole keynote happening. The Verge is 0:07:18.699 --> 0:07:23.739 another really, really, really good resource and I'll most likely 0:07:23.739 --> 0:07:29.679 be Xingu and Mastodon. A lot of information. What I 0:07:29.679 --> 0:07:34.449 try and not to do is X feed or Mastodon 0:07:34.449 --> 0:07:36.669 post every single thing that's happening. I try to sort 0:07:36.669 --> 0:07:40.899 of work out what the main items are and then 0:07:40.899 --> 0:07:43.929 just post them for both those social media platforms. But 0:07:43.929 --> 0:07:48.279 I'm more and The Verge really two great sources for 0:07:48.279 --> 0:07:49.419 keeping up to date as well. 0:07:49.719 --> 0:07:54.609 That's all happening Wednesday morning, Australian Eastern time 3 a.m. 0:07:54.609 --> 0:07:57.879 and then available after that. Yep. Let's take a little 0:07:57.879 --> 0:08:03.219 historical perspective now because some interesting things happen at these 0:08:03.219 --> 0:08:06.759 events over the years. Tell us about the Lightning connector. 0:08:07.059 --> 0:08:10.389 As we know or suspect. So if you listen to 0:08:10.389 --> 0:08:13.989 this after Wednesday, then you'll know that the lightning connector, 0:08:13.989 --> 0:08:19.869 which came in in 2012 with the iPhone five, which 0:08:19.869 --> 0:08:24.609 replaced the 30 pin connector, which came in 2003 with 0:08:24.609 --> 0:08:31.509 the first iPod, it's now being changed over to USB C, 0:08:32.229 --> 0:08:35.779 So when you think that one connected lasted from 2003 0:08:35.779 --> 0:08:39.579 to 2012, 30 PIN Connector. The Lightning Connector lasted from 0:08:39.579 --> 0:08:44.079 2012 to 2023 and now I've got Usb-c. So for 0:08:44.079 --> 0:08:48.219 a range of different products over the years, that's not 0:08:48.219 --> 0:08:51.309 bad going until we realize the fact that this is 0:08:51.309 --> 0:08:53.679 only the third cable change, if you like, that we've 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.849 ever had. But I've got this really interesting YouTube demo 0:08:57.849 --> 0:09:01.029 for changing from 30 PIN to Lightning by Phil Schiller 0:09:01.239 --> 0:09:05.799 back into the 2012 keynote. And it's always really funny 0:09:05.799 --> 0:09:08.499 how they go on and on about how fantastic this 0:09:08.499 --> 0:09:11.889 cable is. And I'm sure they'll be going on about 0:09:11.889 --> 0:09:15.849 how fantastic the USB C cable is, even though that 0:09:15.849 --> 0:09:18.339 Apple won't admit it, they really did get pushed in 0:09:18.339 --> 0:09:21.099 to do it via the European Union to make everything 0:09:21.099 --> 0:09:23.559 more consistent across all electronic devices. 0:09:23.769 --> 0:09:27.549 Three years later, from the 2012 announcement about the Lightning 0:09:27.549 --> 0:09:30.459 Cable 2015, The Apple Watch. 0:09:31.149 --> 0:09:33.129 That's right. And of course, the reason why we're mentioning 0:09:33.129 --> 0:09:36.399 both the the lightning cover Usbc and the Apple Watch 0:09:36.399 --> 0:09:40.419 is that the iPhone 15 will have Usb-c and the 0:09:40.419 --> 0:09:42.819 Apple Watch is going to have a new processor in it. 0:09:42.819 --> 0:09:46.359 So if you have an iPhone eight and a Apple 0:09:46.359 --> 0:09:48.849 Watch Ultra, which is I've got both of them, they've 0:09:48.849 --> 0:09:52.059 both got the same chip inside. So this will be 0:09:52.059 --> 0:09:56.199 really nice to see. And perhaps we have already that 0:09:56.199 --> 0:09:57.549 it's got a new chamber in it. So that's what 0:09:57.549 --> 0:09:59.739 I'm looking forward to. And by the way, I've still 0:09:59.739 --> 0:10:03.159 got my original iPhone in front in front of me, 0:10:03.159 --> 0:10:06.849 the three with a the 30 pin connector, the four 0:10:06.849 --> 0:10:10.389 S and the five with the lightning change. And I've 0:10:10.389 --> 0:10:13.839 also got my original Apple Watch version zero as it 0:10:13.839 --> 0:10:14.589 was first called. 0:10:14.769 --> 0:10:19.809 Of course you have then in 2016, AirPods seven years already. 0:10:19.959 --> 0:10:22.509 I know. It's been amazing isn't it? I just can't 0:10:22.509 --> 0:10:24.729 believe they've been around that long. And look, they really 0:10:24.729 --> 0:10:26.739 have changed. I mean know this article link in the 0:10:26.739 --> 0:10:30.099 notes says it changed the world. But as far as 0:10:30.339 --> 0:10:33.219 having a pair of AirPods that does both transparency mode 0:10:33.219 --> 0:10:38.139 and noise cancellation, it really was an amazing thing and 0:10:38.139 --> 0:10:40.479 I'm looking forward to. They were saying that next year, 0:10:40.719 --> 0:10:44.229 that case, the charging case will also change to Usb-c 0:10:44.229 --> 0:10:46.449 as well. But you know, as far as I'm concerned, 0:10:46.749 --> 0:10:50.359 nobody says you've got to update or throw out your 0:10:50.359 --> 0:10:52.899 your hardware if it's still working, as far as I'm concerned, 0:10:53.019 --> 0:10:53.709 keep using it. 0:10:54.069 --> 0:10:56.829 So the Apple event this week and in next week's program, 0:10:56.829 --> 0:11:01.149 we'll have a fully digested account of what's actually taken place. 0:11:01.149 --> 0:11:05.319 So look forward to bringing you that in a week's time. Now, 0:11:05.439 --> 0:11:09.459 Amazon is to discontinue its classic Kindle app and a 0:11:09.459 --> 0:11:11.529 bit of work going to go on behind the scenes. 0:11:11.709 --> 0:11:14.049 Yep. So this is for the Mac. It keeps getting 0:11:14.109 --> 0:11:16.929 a little little incremental updates, which is really not much 0:11:16.929 --> 0:11:19.329 to talk about. So what they're going to be doing 0:11:19.569 --> 0:11:24.219 supposedly over the next several weeks is writing up a 0:11:24.219 --> 0:11:28.899 new one using new code. And what I'm hoping is 0:11:28.899 --> 0:11:31.809 that they've put all this effort into the accessibility of 0:11:31.809 --> 0:11:36.309 the Kindle app for iOS and Android. I hope they 0:11:36.309 --> 0:11:38.709 do the same thing for the Mac because I have 0:11:38.709 --> 0:11:41.769 not been able to read at all a Kindle book 0:11:41.769 --> 0:11:44.109 using the Kindle app on my Mac ever since it 0:11:44.109 --> 0:11:47.319 first became available. So have a look in. I'd say 0:11:47.319 --> 0:11:49.539 about towards the end of October. Of course, if you 0:11:49.779 --> 0:11:52.689 follow me on social media, you know when it's been updated. 0:11:53.439 --> 0:11:56.199 Wordpad from Microsoft, it's going. 0:11:56.739 --> 0:11:59.859 I know. So over the next they didn't say when, 0:11:59.859 --> 0:12:03.219 but hopefully very soon the next update of Windows Will Yes, 0:12:03.219 --> 0:12:06.939 it'll be using Wordpad and Wordpad. Was that application that 0:12:06.939 --> 0:12:10.089 you used when you wanted to read files or word 0:12:10.089 --> 0:12:14.739 docs without having to run the hugely oversized and over 0:12:14.739 --> 0:12:19.709 featured word itself Microsoft Word. But notepad for reading dot 0:12:19.779 --> 0:12:23.379 txt files will still be around, so I'm a bit 0:12:23.379 --> 0:12:26.049 sad to see it go, but really nowadays it's even 0:12:26.049 --> 0:12:29.499 notepad for text files and if you want to read 0:12:29.499 --> 0:12:32.309 other document types, including RDF, then of course it's it's 0:12:32.319 --> 0:12:35.949 Microsoft Word itself, which will also read dot txt files 0:12:35.949 --> 0:12:36.489 by the way. 0:12:36.639 --> 0:12:40.209 So what was the reason for Wordpad all this time? 0:12:41.049 --> 0:12:45.369 I think it was a way of offering extra formatting 0:12:45.369 --> 0:12:49.089 options without having a full blown word processor. The problem 0:12:49.089 --> 0:12:53.169 with it though is it didn't have a spell checker 0:12:53.169 --> 0:12:56.229 and it didn't have many other features that a basic 0:12:56.229 --> 0:13:00.219 word processor has. So it was sort of a for me, 0:13:00.219 --> 0:13:02.319 it was sort of like an attempt for Microsoft back 0:13:02.319 --> 0:13:05.019 in the day, 30 years ago to have a sort 0:13:05.019 --> 0:13:08.979 of word processor application, but it never really made it. 0:13:08.979 --> 0:13:10.539 I don't even know when the last time I used, 0:13:10.959 --> 0:13:14.439 but yeah, it's finally going away and God rest his soul. 0:13:14.439 --> 0:13:15.909 In the application universe. 0:13:16.239 --> 0:13:20.559 Google turning 25 as it searches for an AI future. 0:13:20.919 --> 0:13:24.789 Google now celebrating its 25th birthday. And besides being a 0:13:24.789 --> 0:13:27.819 search engine when it first came in, they've done lots 0:13:27.819 --> 0:13:30.279 of projects and apparently on one of their pages they've 0:13:30.279 --> 0:13:36.249 listed 288 projects that went nowhere. They started them, they 0:13:36.249 --> 0:13:39.339 got really involved, and then they ended them with AI, 0:13:39.339 --> 0:13:44.379 because you would expect between Amazon, Microsoft and Google, we're 0:13:44.379 --> 0:13:48.519 talking about the three major players in artificial intelligence at 0:13:48.519 --> 0:13:50.019 the moment. I mean, we know they've got Apple behind 0:13:50.019 --> 0:13:53.949 the scenes, but according to this article, Microsoft is sort 0:13:53.949 --> 0:13:57.189 of in front, followed by Amazon, then followed by Google. 0:13:57.189 --> 0:13:59.469 But you would have thought out of all of those three, 0:13:59.709 --> 0:14:02.289 Google should have been on the top, then Amazon and 0:14:02.289 --> 0:14:05.229 then Microsoft. So it's going to be really interesting to 0:14:05.229 --> 0:14:07.419 see how this evolves. But and I really want Google 0:14:07.419 --> 0:14:10.869 to succeed because I can find a lot more stuff 0:14:10.869 --> 0:14:13.239 doing searches with or used to be able to find 0:14:13.479 --> 0:14:16.959 substring searches with Google than I could with Microsoft or Amazon. 0:14:17.289 --> 0:14:20.859 Yes. Well, we'll see how that goes. Just before we go, 0:14:20.859 --> 0:14:23.169 a reminder of where people can find details of what 0:14:23.169 --> 0:14:25.449 we've been talking about in this and previous editions of 0:14:25.449 --> 0:14:26.139 the program. 0:14:26.229 --> 0:14:28.719 Indeed. So, as always, you can check out our blog site, 0:14:28.719 --> 0:14:32.519 which is David would be our. I'd be a incom. 0:14:32.639 --> 0:14:37.979 David would be a pod bean pod bean to write 0:14:37.979 --> 0:14:38.789 to the program. 0:14:38.969 --> 0:14:40.679 You can write to me at Vision Israel, where I work, 0:14:40.679 --> 0:14:44.819 which is David Woodbridge How it sounds at Vision australia.org. 0:14:44.999 --> 0:14:49.799 David Dot Woodbridge at Vision Australia. Org. This has been 0:14:49.799 --> 0:14:52.979 talking tech with me has been Vision Australia's National Advisor 0:14:52.979 --> 0:14:57.049 on Access Technology, David Woodbridge. I'm Stephen Jolley. Take care. 0:14:57.059 --> 0:14:58.679 We'll talk more tech next week. See you.