WEBVTT - Talking Vision 743 Week Beginning 26th of August 2024

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<v S1>From Vision Australia. This is talking vision. And now here's

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<v S1>your host Sam Colley.

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<v S2>Hello, everyone. It's great to be here with you. And

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<v S2>for the next half hour we talk matters of blindness

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<v S2>and low vision. This is something that we called attention

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<v S2>to a couple of weeks ago. No b-1s, no totally

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<v S2>blind athletes selected from Australia. And that's. I think that's

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<v S2>a crying shame considering we are blind athletes then. So yeah,

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<v S2>if you are listening out there, you're young enough and

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<v S2>you feel inspired, then get out there, find yourself a

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<v S2>guide runner and you know, give it a red hot go.

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<v S2>Welcome to the program. This week we're gearing up for

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<v S2>the Paralympics on Talking Vision as I catch up with

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<v S2>Sam Rickard, the host of studio One and four time

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<v S2>Paralympian to have a chat with me about the upcoming games.

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<v S2>That conversation is coming up very shortly, so make sure

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<v S2>to stay tuned. Then after you hear from Sam, I'll

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<v S2>catch up with Belinda Wilson from the Children and Young

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<v S2>People Programs team at Vision Australia to tell us about

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<v S2>the Leap program and a bunch of other programs available

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<v S2>for children and young people who are blind or have

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<v S2>low vision. And then we wrap up with a reader

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<v S2>recommended and a little bit of news and information. I

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<v S2>hope you enjoy this week's episode of Talking Vision. Over

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<v S2>the next two weeks, from the 28th of August to

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<v S2>the 8th of September, the Paralympics will be taking place

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<v S2>over in Paris and to have a chat with me

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<v S2>all about them. I'm joined today by our resident Paralympian

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<v S2>and athletics expert, Sam Rickard, a voice quite familiar to

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<v S2>quite a lot of you, as well as one of

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<v S2>the hosts of Studio One. Sam, welcome back to Talking Vision.

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<v S2>Great to have you again. Oh, nice to be back. Now,

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<v S2>we had you earlier in the year around April time with, um,

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<v S2>100 K your way as you were making your way

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<v S2>to 100km in your own time and in your own way, running,

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<v S2>ambling along. Yes, yes. And now we're back on a

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<v S2>bit of an athletic theme as well as the Paralympics

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<v S2>are coming up very, very shortly. In fact, as this

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<v S2>goes to where it's kicking off overnight, our time. So. Yeah.

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<v S2>How are you feeling you bit excited. Bit nervous to

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<v S2>see how everyone goes. The funny thing is, I mean

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<v S2>because it was a part of my life for so long.

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<v S2>I always get this nagging feeling I should be somewhere

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<v S2>else when I'm sort of sitting at home, sort of

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<v S2>doing all this, even to this day. I mean, I've

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<v S2>been retired for longer than I've been competing, but it's

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<v S2>still there's this sort of like nagging thing of should

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<v S2>I be overseas or something? And that probably, I guess

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<v S2>that never goes away. And it's sort of you feel like, oh,

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<v S2>I should be out there, I should be running, I

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<v S2>should be training, I should be practicing. Then I go

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<v S2>and do it. And then I think to myself, no,

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<v S2>I shouldn't be out there. Ouch. Yeah. Oh my God.

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<v S2>But let's go back to that. Tell us a few

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<v S2>of those stories from your time as a Paralympian. There's

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<v S2>quite a bit to tell, quite a few achievements in there,

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<v S2>but what sort of sticks out for you? What stuck

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<v S2>out to me really is for something extraordinary that the

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<v S2>Paralympics in general are. It is just full of such

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<v S2>ordinary people. You've got people all throughout the time they're there,

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<v S2>just like you or me, who have just been, for

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<v S2>whatever reason, decided to give this thing a red hot

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<v S2>go and train a little bit harder than everybody else.

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<v S2>And if you have a disability, it's not necessarily easy

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<v S2>to do a lot of things, but I've always noticed

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<v S2>that those that do make it in the sport make

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<v S2>it in inverted commas. They've just tried a little bit harder.

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<v S2>And in terms of perseverance and trying and getting over

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<v S2>the line and making those little improvements and hitting that

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<v S2>ultimate achievement. You yourself are a Paralympic medallist. So if

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<v S2>you don't mind going into a bit of detail, what

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<v S2>was that like? That experience in 1992, in Barcelona, in

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<v S2>the 800m and all the lead up and the feelings

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<v S2>around that and how it all sort of panned out. Well,

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<v S2>back then I was sponsored by Cheap Foods, which was

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<v S2>a shopping chain in South Australia and the Northern Territory.

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<v S2>And they had said, if you get a medal, then

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<v S2>we will increase your sponsorship. And it was the last

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<v S2>day of competition, pretty much, and I'd made the final

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<v S2>of the 800m and that was the one thing that

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<v S2>actually finally stuck in my head, as I'd given everything

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<v S2>in the first 600m of that race, I'd run the

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<v S2>first 400 way too fast. The adrenaline had pumped me up.

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<v S2>I'd gone through in 52 seconds, and I'd never run

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<v S2>under two minutes before in my life in the 800.

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<v S2>At that stage, and, well, I'm a low B3, so

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<v S2>I couldn't actually see what the time was when I

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<v S2>went past, but the guy that was on my shoulder

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<v S2>had and he'd sort of dropped way off. So by

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<v S2>the time I got around to the 600m, I was

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<v S2>absolutely spent completely and utterly exhausted. And so Christophe, the Frenchman,

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<v S2>the Panamanian guy and the English guy all passed me

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<v S2>in short succession. And I was thinking, oh, that's it, fourth.

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<v S2>But then, yes, seeking extra sponsorship came into my head

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<v S2>and I thought, no, no, I'm not going to this

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<v S2>is not going to happen. So I don't think I

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<v S2>looked particularly good as I was going in the next

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<v S2>200m or so. But I pushed through it. And because

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<v S2>the poor Englishman had been stupid enough to follow me

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<v S2>in the first lap, he was just that little bit

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<v S2>more spent. So I actually went past him and I

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<v S2>was that exhausted. I actually gave him a mouthful of

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<v S2>abuse as I went past him, but still managed to

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<v S2>continue on and hold on for that bronze medal. And

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<v S2>as it was, there was a new Australian record by

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<v S2>a lot. And yeah, and it was good enough for

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<v S2>a bronze medal. And as far as I'm aware, to

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<v S2>this day, I'm still the only blind athlete in this

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<v S2>country to have broken two minutes. So I'm sure it's

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<v S2>been done outside competition or outside the official competition, as

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<v S2>it were. But I still hold that Australian record, which

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<v S2>I want someone to break, that it's been sitting there

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<v S2>for God knows how long now. Well, it might happen

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<v S2>in 2024. Well, I'll have to wait and see. Is

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<v S2>that your pet event? The one you sort of gear

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<v S2>up to watching every four years when it comes around,

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<v S2>or every two years in the Commonwealth Games in that

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<v S2>respect as well. But is that the event you're sort

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<v S2>of really looking forward to, or there's others that peak

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<v S2>your interest as well over the years? Well, unfortunately, the

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<v S2>800m is not included for blind athletes at the moment. Oh,

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<v S2>that's a shame. I think I think it's a B1 event,

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<v S2>but the vagaries of international sports rules state that if

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<v S2>there are less than six qualifiers in the event, then

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<v S2>the event gets scrapped. So this means that modern Paralympians

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<v S2>can't specialise in a single event because their event may disappear.

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<v S2>And this is exactly what happened to me in 1996.

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<v S2>I was all geared up to absolutely blitz the 800m,

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<v S2>and the 800m just suddenly disappeared, owing to a whole

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<v S2>bunch of athletes being injured back in 1990s, which had

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<v S2>this sort of rock on thing to the 1996 Paralympics.

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<v S2>So that's something that you've got to bear in mind

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<v S2>is sometimes you've got athletes competing in events that they

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<v S2>haven't trained for all their lives, and you've got to

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<v S2>be flexible. And that's why you're having this exodus to triathlon,

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<v S2>for example, by certain other athletes. And that's why my

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<v S2>friend Sam Harding is switched over to triathlon, because at

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<v S2>least it's going to be there. At least you can

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<v S2>train for it and it won't suddenly disappear on you.

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<v S2>That's also an interesting sort of dynamics there for people

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<v S2>who are totally blind, swimming and riding and how they'd

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<v S2>get guided through and training and all that sort of thing.

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<v S2>And that added element to it for people out there

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<v S2>who might be wondering, how would that sort of work

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<v S2>in a Paralympic context? Do people still have guides or

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<v S2>tandems alongside them if they are 100% B1? Absolutely no

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<v S2>vision at all. What's your understanding there? Uh, guide riding

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<v S2>has not changed since the year dot. One thing that

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<v S2>has changed. So back in my day. God, I sound

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<v S2>old when I'm saying that. But prior to the 1996 Paralympics.

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<v S2>B1 runners in the 100m actually ran them in time trials.

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<v S2>You'd have someone standing at the end of the 100

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<v S2>meter straight and yelling out four four as they were

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<v S2>running in lane four, and if they veered off to

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<v S2>either side, they'd either yell out 3 or 5, and

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<v S2>that would allow the runner to correct themselves. In the 1990s,

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<v S2>that changed to the same as everything else, with a

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<v S2>with a guide runner actually running the event and having

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<v S2>to synchronize block starts and all that sort of stuff.

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<v S2>So it still exists. And you do see B1 events, alas.

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<v S2>And this is something that we called attention to a

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<v S2>couple of weeks ago. No B1, no totally blind athletes

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<v S2>selected it from Australia. And that's I think that's a

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<v S2>crying shame considering we are blind athletes. And so yeah,

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<v S2>if you are listening out there, you're young enough and

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<v S2>you feel inspired, then get out there, find yourself a

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<v S2>guide runner and, you know, give it a red hot go.

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<v S2>There is a future for all of that as well, obviously.

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<v S2>So we do want to say a lot of people

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<v S2>getting involved. So that's super important. And you know, what's

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<v S2>the best way for people out there to get involved

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<v S2>and join a running club or perhaps an Achilles branch,

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<v S2>or join an athletics club that's accessible for them? Well,

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<v S2>Blind Sports Australia still exists out there, and it's their

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<v S2>job to look after athletes with a vision impairment. So

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<v S2>you can go onto their website. They will give you

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<v S2>a potted guide onto to what things are available. But

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<v S2>in theory all athletics clubs, all sports clubs nowadays should

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<v S2>be accessible. So if it's up to you, if you want,

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<v S2>if you feel confident enough to get out there and say, hey,

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<v S2>I'd like to run. And yes, you have Achilles branches now.

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<v S2>And Achilles is a I've only just recently learned about this.

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<v S2>We're trying to open up one in in Adelaide as well. Uh,

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<v S2>it works at developing able bodied athletes into guide runners.

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<v S2>So if you feel like getting out and going for

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<v S2>a run or something like that, you can contact your

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<v S2>local Achilles branch. They can find you someone who can

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<v S2>run with you. And I mean, the whole point is, well,

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<v S2>is that person has to be just that little bit faster,

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<v S2>a little bit fitter, so that all you need to

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<v S2>do is sit back and run. They're the ones, they're

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<v S2>your eyes. That's the whole general principle of it. Finally, Sam,

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<v S2>we'll get in a little bit of an opportunity for

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<v S2>some cross promotion. You've got a special coming up on

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<v S2>Studio One shortly, all about the Paralympics. I'll let you

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<v S2>fill the listeners in with as many of the details

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<v S2>as you like. But yeah, that's coming up soon. We

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<v S2>were actually considering just ignoring the things altogether, but the

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<v S2>opportunity came up to actually present a slightly different spin

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<v S2>on things. So what we are looking at are the

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<v S2>athletes that came through the system over the years, might

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<v S2>have competed at one Paralympics and then sort of disappeared again.

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<v S2>So we are talking to three blind athletes who, yes,

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<v S2>three blind athletes, three blind mice who started out at

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<v S2>the well. One of them started out at the Seoul

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<v S2>Paralympics and then went on to bigger and better things,

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<v S2>as it were, as in marriage and a life which

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<v S2>is all good for him. My friend Shane, who competed

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<v S2>in the Sydney Paralympics and that was as a thrower

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<v S2>and again went on to life and marriage and things

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<v S2>like that. And yes, my friend Ed, who went on

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<v S2>to be quite a successful public servant, so we're looking

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<v S2>at how sport has actually treated them over the years

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<v S2>and how it's actually influenced their choices and what went

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<v S2>on afterwards, As I said, it's a slightly different, different

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<v S2>approach because it's easy to look at elite athletes as

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<v S2>some sort of superman, but, well, none of them are.

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<v S2>We are we? We have the same issues and sometimes

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<v S2>it doesn't quite work out. So I thought this would

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<v S2>be like a twist on on things that would give

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<v S2>the listener out there an idea that of what makes

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<v S2>us actually tick properly. Yeah, all of this sort of

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<v S2>thing isn't necessarily a guaranteed income, as you've mentioned. It's,

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<v S2>you know, not 100% guaranteed. You can sort of make

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<v S2>a living off sport. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people

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<v S2>out there and all that blood, sweat and tears and

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<v S2>hard work behind the scenes that some a lot of

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<v S2>the stuff, all the, you know, people don't really see

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<v S2>on TV. So it's great to, you know, get those stories.

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<v S2>Not only do times change, but people change as well. So, um,

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<v S2>it's not an easy thing to qualify for international competition,

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<v S2>let alone for, for a Paralympic Games. Certainly not. Okay. Well,

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<v S2>I've been speaking today with Sam Rickard, host of studio

0:12:54.108 --> 0:12:57.888
<v S2>one and four time Paralympian. Here to chat to me

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<v S2>all about the upcoming Paralympics taking place in Paris over

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<v S2>the next couple of weeks. Sam. Great to catch up

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<v S2>with you again. Thanks so much for your time and

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<v S2>hope you enjoy the Paralympics. I'll be watching. On Sam,

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<v S2>Cully and Joe listening to Talking Vision on Vision Australia Radio,

0:13:24.558 --> 0:13:29.928
<v S2>associated stations of the Radio Reading Network and the Community

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<v S2>Radio Network. I hope you enjoyed that conversation there with

0:13:34.878 --> 0:13:39.768
<v S2>Sam Rickard, four time Olympian and host of Studio One

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<v S2>alongside Lizzie Eastham. If you missed any part of that

0:13:44.688 --> 0:13:48.568
<v S2>conversation with Sam or you'd love to hear it again.

0:13:48.598 --> 0:13:53.488
<v S2>Talking vision will be available on the Vision Australia Radio

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<v S2>website at VA radio.org. That's VA radio.org. You can also

0:14:01.438 --> 0:14:06.328
<v S2>find the program and interview highlights from the shows on

0:14:06.328 --> 0:14:09.688
<v S2>the podcast app of your choice, or through the Vision

0:14:09.688 --> 0:14:14.098
<v S2>Australia library as we head into the month of September.

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<v S2>The Children and Young People team at Vision Australia have

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<v S2>a range of programs which are just opening for expressions

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<v S2>of interest in 2025. But there's also quite a few

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<v S2>other initiatives going on and to tell us all about them.

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<v S2>I'm joined by Belinda Wilson, coordinator of the programs for

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<v S2>children and young people at Vision Australia. Belinda, welcome back

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<v S2>to Talking vision. Thanks for your time.

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<v S3>Thanks for having.

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<v S2>Me. Now we're here to have a little bit of

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<v S2>an update on children and young people and what that

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<v S2>part of the organization's getting up to. Why don't you

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<v S2>give us a bit of an overview of some exciting

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<v S2>things that have been going on?

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<v S3>Well, there's a lot of things that have been happening

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<v S3>in the children and young people's space over a lot

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<v S3>of different things that have been happening in the area

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<v S3>over the last, well, couple of years. But more, more recently,

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<v S3>there's been some exciting stuff with with young adults and

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<v S3>particularly with one of the programs that I run called

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<v S3>the Leap program. One of the things that we have,

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<v S3>which is wonderful, is the Life Ready Hub. And have

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<v S3>you heard about that before, Sam?

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<v S2>I have heard about it a little bit, but fill

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<v S2>our listeners in on that a bit.

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<v S3>So the Life Ready Hub is a wonderful online resources

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<v S3>for clients and their parents, and they have a lot

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<v S3>of different modules on different areas. So that could be

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<v S3>anything from little games that you can play to explore

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<v S3>different careers, to podcasts that you can listen to about

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<v S3>different subjects. Just all things relating to children and to

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<v S3>blindness and low vision. We have recently done a podcast

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<v S3>that will be available on it, a mindfulness podcast that

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<v S3>will be available on it soon. And it also is

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<v S3>the house of a lot of resources and information relating

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<v S3>to employment, education, inclusivity, daily skills, all those sorts of things.

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<v S2>Okay, and if people would like to check out Life Ready,

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<v S2>what's the best way for them to do that? Where

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<v S2>should they.

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<v S3>Go? Well, there's a lot of different ways that you

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<v S3>can go through and get signed up for the Life

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<v S3>Ready Hub. I would recommend if you are already involved

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<v S3>with Vision Australia and you have a primary service provider

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<v S3>to let them know if you're not already involved with

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<v S3>Vision Australia, I would really recommend going through an intake first.

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<v S3>In an intake, they discuss what type of goals that

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<v S3>you and your child have and how you want to

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<v S3>reach those goals, and through that, one of those options

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<v S3>may be resources through the Life Ready Hub. And the

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<v S3>great thing about the Life Ready Hub is it can

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<v S3>be a flat resource, which is something you can read

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<v S3>and do on your own time, or it's something you

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<v S3>can do in tandem with a service provider.

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<v S2>And Belinda, you mentioned earlier, they're just a little bit

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<v S2>about the Leap program, and this is quite an exciting

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<v S2>time of the year as applications have just opened up

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<v S2>for 2025. So tell us a bit about leap and

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<v S2>all the details there.

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<v S3>Leap is exciting right now for several reasons. There are

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<v S3>a lot of things happening in leap all at once,

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<v S3>so it's a very busy but very exciting time. So

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<v S3>the first thing that's happening is that we have opened

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<v S3>applications for Leap 2025, and Leap is a ten month program.

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<v S3>It runs from February to November. It's an after school

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<v S3>extracurricular program for young people aged 14 to 18 who

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<v S3>have low vision or blindness. What I really love about

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<v S3>the program is that you can join it from anywhere

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<v S3>in Australia. So if you are in a remote area

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<v S3>or if you're in an urban area, you join it

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<v S3>all by Microsoft Teams and that's where you have all

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<v S3>the meetings. The meetings are broken down into different subjects,

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<v S3>and I really think it's just about being life ready

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<v S3>and about developing those life skills that you need in

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<v S3>order to either go into education, employment or even just

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<v S3>to live your daily life. So a lot of the

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<v S3>focus is on organization, writing emails, technology skills, doing some

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<v S3>career exploration, building up your organizational skills through running a fundraiser.

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<v S3>There's employability part of it where people look for jobs

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<v S3>online and write resumes and attend mock interviews. And then

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<v S3>it finishes with a presentation and graduation ceremony in November.

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<v S3>The reason why I'm so excited right now is because

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<v S3>there are two things that are happening in September, in

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<v S3>addition to the applications being open, which are we are

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<v S3>running a leap camp, which is when the leap participants

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<v S3>can come to our Kensington Seeing Eye dog houses and

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<v S3>stay there for three days. And also we are running

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<v S3>the mock interviews. So all of the leap participants will

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<v S3>be having mock interviews with different members of our leadership team.

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<v S3>And this is an experience that I think is so

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<v S3>important for young people to have that first mock interview experience,

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<v S3>or even if they've had an interview before, to hone

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<v S3>their interview skills, to create an application, to tailor their

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<v S3>resume and their cover letter to the application, and to

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<v S3>get honest feedback on how they're interviewing, their presentation skills,

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<v S3>how they approach a job, how they researched a job,

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<v S3>how they've learnt about a job. All those sorts of

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<v S3>things are so important. And I really love this time

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<v S3>of year with leap. It's very busy, but it's very,

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<v S3>very fun.

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<v S2>Well, it certainly sounds fun and if people would love

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<v S2>to sign up for leap, they perhaps may have a

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<v S2>son or a daughter or niece or nephew who would

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<v S2>really greatly benefit from taking part in Leap, what's the

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<v S2>best way for them to sign up? Or a few

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<v S2>places to just perhaps find out more before they make

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<v S2>that final choice?

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<v S3>Yeah, so there's a lot of different ways to learn

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<v S3>about Leap. One is to just email me at Leap

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<v S3>at Vision Australia. Org that is just the loop mailbox.

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<v S3>There's also the loop website, which is if you go

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<v S3>to the Vision Australia website and just type in leap.

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<v S3>It'll pop up. The website is really detailed. It has

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<v S3>everything down to the monthly activities. What happens when the

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<v S3>program details the application process, the costing, everything is just

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<v S3>outlined there. Also, just so you know, if you do

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<v S3>submit an expression of interest on the website, it will

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<v S3>also go to me at the leap mailbox. So either way,

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<v S3>you're going to get in contact with me and I

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<v S3>can always give you a call and just discuss the

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<v S3>program and whether the program is a good fit.

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<v S2>Okay. And that program is open for applications until November. Belinda. Yes. Yep.

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<v S2>Earlier the better. But quite a few weeks and months

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<v S2>for people to have a look and decide if leap

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<v S2>is for them. But sounds like a lot of great

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<v S2>things for people to get involved with, so look forward

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<v S2>to seeing how that goes and hearing from quite a

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<v S2>few people out there.

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<v S3>Yeah, the reason why we recommend applying early is because

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<v S3>we are aware that sometimes there are some steps that

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<v S3>need to be done before leap starts. So one of

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<v S3>those things may be connecting you with a primary service provider,

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<v S3>who will be the person who will coordinate your child's services,

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<v S3>and will also be the one to facilitate the program.

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<v S3>There may be some discussions around NDIS funding that you

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<v S3>need support in. There may be situations where the person

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<v S3>may also need additional services outside of Leap. Or maybe

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<v S3>leap isn't exactly the right program they're looking for. So

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<v S3>the earlier that you get in contact with us, the

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<v S3>better and the more that we can go through and

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<v S3>answer any of your questions.

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<v S2>Perfect. Well, I've been speaking today with Belinda Wilson from

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<v S2>the Children and Young People team at Vision Australia about

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<v S2>not only Leap, lip, but a few other things that

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<v S2>children and young people can get involved with through Vision

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<v S2>Australia and their programs. Belinda, thank you so much for

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<v S2>your time today. Great to catch up with you and

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<v S2>hear all about what's going on.

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<v S3>Yeah, always a pleasure to see you, Sam.

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<v S2>And now here's Frances Kelland with her radar recommended.

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<v S4>Thanks, Sam. Today's reader, recommended from the Vision Australia Library

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<v S4>is killing for Country by David Marr. David Marr was

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<v S4>shocked to discover forebears who served with the brutal native

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<v S4>police in the bloodiest years on the frontier. Killing for

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<v S4>country is the result of a soul searching Australian history.

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<v S4>This is a richly detailed saga of politics and power

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<v S4>in the colonial world of land seized, fortunes made and lost,

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<v S4>and the violence let loose as squatters and their allies

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<v S4>fought for possession of the country. A war still unresolved

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<v S4>in today's Australia. Let's hear a sample of killing for

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<v S4>Country by David Maher. It's narrated by the author David Maher.

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<v S5>It was spring 1835. Is it not a good place? Asked.

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<v S5>You're his guide? Agreed. But I should not like to

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<v S5>put my sheep on it and drive away the cattle

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<v S5>of those who have set down here. Two huts could

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<v S5>be seen standing on the far side of the river.

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<v S5>You didn't care. They are a set of cattle stealing rascals.

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<v S5>And I should have no compunction. His guide agreed that

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<v S5>they were rascals. But I should not trouble myself about that.

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<v S5>I should go farther and look out for myself. They

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<v S5>are here. You was not persuaded. This quarrelsome 21 year

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<v S5>old had crossed the range with orders to seize a

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<v S5>swathe of the finest land in New South Wales. My sheep,

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<v S5>he said, will soon scatter the cattle. The two men

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<v S5>rode 12 miles along the mokai, claiming 150,000 acres of

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<v S5>the Liverpool Plains for the merchant Richard Jones. The soil

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<v S5>was deep and black. This is Kamilaroi country, but neither

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<v S5>Jones nor Edmund Ure doubted for a moment the land

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<v S5>was theirs for the taking. Jones paid nothing for these acres.

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<v S5>His only obligation was to stock them. His young brother

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<v S5>in law would soon be running 30,000 sheep along the river.

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<v S5>The colony was perfecting a unique form of conquest, invasion

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<v S5>by sheep.

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<v S4>And that was a sample of killing for Country by

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<v S4>David Marr, available from the Vision Australia Library. To join

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<v S4>the library or to find out more about how the

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<v S4>library works, there is a phone number 1300 654 656. That's 1300 654 656

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<v S4>or email library at Vision Australia. Org. That's library at

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<v S4>Vision Australia. Org.

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<v S2>For the 16th consecutive year. The Focus on Ability Short

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<v S2>Film Festival is back in action. Over the month of September.

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<v S2>There will be a variety of screenings where you can

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<v S2>celebrate the remarkable talents and stories of individual filmmakers with disability.

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<v S2>Come and experience the power of perseverance, creativity and resilience.

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<v S2>Your presence will make these events truly unforgettable. These are

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<v S2>free events, but registration is essential. You can find screenings

0:26:11.428 --> 0:26:17.908
<v S2>across the country in Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Canberra, Sydney, Launceston

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<v S2>and Brisbane. To find out more and to register head

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<v S2>to focus on ability. Com.au. That's focus on ability. Dot

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<v S2>com dot a U. And that's all the time we

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