1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by JS Health Vitamins. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you well, thanks everyone for 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: joining us. I for one am quite tired still. We 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: had an epic Mother's Day weekend. Of course, social distancing 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: and all of that. But were you social distancing on 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the couch, Amie? Yeah, I did fall asleep on the couch. 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: I'm not going to live that one down. I had 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: people over on Saturday night and I'm handmade ten pizzas, 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: all the source everything, so I don't know. I think 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: being on my feet, oh under an exhausting night. Unfortunately 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: we didn't get any of the pizzas, so that was 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: for Amy and day friends. But the next day we 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: did put on a little high tea for Mum, which 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: was really nice. I made SCons for the first time 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: since year nine and was actually really impressed with myself. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: They were amazing, but there was a bit of drama 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: leading up to Mother's Day and involving It's just sort 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: of a really awkward situation when it came to gift 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: wrapping Mum's present. Yeah, this probably sounds really petty, but 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: Sophie and I came across a very rude sales assistant 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: at a certain store, David Jones, which we were quite 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: taken aback with. It was quite a funny experience. We 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: bought Mom a Smeg kettle, so it was sort of 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: one of those luxury items that we wanted to spoil 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: her with, and the girl said, oh, I need to 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: see your docket because the gift had to be over 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars to wrap, and anyone who has bought 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: a Smeg product will know they don't sell anything under 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. That's not you, Cama twenty dollars Kettleory, 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: can I just say as well, like with customer service, 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: as if you say it like that, oh, can I 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: see your receipt? Yeah, I kind of felt like saying, well, 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: even if this was five dollars, you probably should offer 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: to wrap it anyway. So it was kind of on 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: the back foot from there. She was really rude and 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: was how challenging it was to wrap up a box. 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: And I felt like saying, I actually love wrapping. I 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: just didn't have any wrapping paper at home. And then 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: she was rude about the ribbon that we picked. It 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: was apparently the hardest ribbon to put on it. She 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: said that. She then complained because she I think she 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: thought that we were kind of down with it, were like, wow, 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: it's really is difficult to wrap that box. And then 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: she's like, you wouldn't believe it. Someone during Christmas broad 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: in a Barbie campervan to wrap in a box. It 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: was so tough. Do you know, well, I envy those jobs. 52 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I think that would be such a great job at 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Christmas time. I feel like, you know, when it's lovely 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: to sit down and just I personally take a lot 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: of pride in my gift wrapping. Yeah, well that's why 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. So maybe we'll have to all 57 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: apply to be volunteer rappers at Christmas time. I think 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of charities out there and 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: we'll bring will show them how to do it, bring 60 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the love and Christmas joy. No, sheepe is too difficult. 61 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: So moving on to our first topic, our fascination with 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: influencers performing ordinary tasks has hit a new high. Now 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: their morning routines, what they eat, and even their emails 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: are a part of our daily consumption on insert story. 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: But why are influencers doing it and why are we 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: watching it now? I, for one, I found myself doing 67 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: this a lot in isolation. I am up to date 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: with what Sarah's day is doing, what Tylier Scain is doing, 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: or what about you guys. Oh my gosh, I was 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: sitting in awe of myself in terms of the amount 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: of crap I was watching. Last night, I came across 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: Madison Woolly's organizational laundry cupboard clear out and I just 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: was like, I think this is hidden all time low. 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: I think you only realize the crap that you're watching 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: when you watch it with someone that doesn't get it. 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: So like, when I'm watching it and Reese comes in, 77 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: I actually feel ashamed. Yeah, it's so true, because it 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: really does make you question one why you were watching 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: the content and two why it's profitable for these YouTubers 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: or instagrammers. And you've done a bit of research into it, 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: haven't you k. Yeah, well, I was intrigued because, as 82 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I said, I find my glued to watching this sort 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: of content. And apparently influencers are putting this sort of 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: mundane content out in order to build a familiarity with 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: their audience and to share these intimate details, so then 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you feel like you're kind of a part of their 87 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: life and their friend, and interestingly, this makes you more 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: likely to buy the products that they are then pushing. 89 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: So if you're watching Sarah's day and she's going about 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: her daily routine, and of course she's going to drink 91 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: her special probotic drink in the morning, and it's not 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: really like flashing this is a big ad, but it's 93 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: just a part of her daily routine that helps her 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: gut health. So of course you're going to be inclined 95 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, Sarah's day's my friend. I know 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: all these things about her day, so I'm going to 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: buy that. And I think it is the relatability aspect 98 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: that you touched on as well in regards to familiarity 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: with someone, because it really, I mean, I get this sick, 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of voyeuristic kick out of watching people's days and 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: perhaps relating to things that they do. But I don't 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: know if that's everybody, because I get it with Seysi's day. 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: She's very clever in the way she promotes her products, 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: but in since the video I was watching last night, 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: she wasn't promoting anything. Well, I think that's where she 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: then falls into the category of trying to have the 107 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: familiarity with her audience. Do you know what. I think 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: some of them are just lazy and have nothing else 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: to film because they actually don't do that much that 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: they've got to share them mundane task like I remember 111 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: watching Sammy Robinson stack her dishes in the dishwasher because 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: that was just part of her day, and apparently she 113 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: said that people loved watching it. I think there's that 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: real relaxation of watching someone clean, like I've heard that's 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: an actual thing. It's kind of like that mook bong philosophy. 116 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: You're not actually getting to taste any of the food, 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: but you're having the outcome. I don't seeing in a 118 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: filthy house watching someone clean. Yeah. Well, it's funny enough 119 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: that you say that, because the Washington Post actually wrote 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: an article about why influencers are starting to share their 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: to do lists. So I don't know if you guys 122 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: have seen this, but it's sort of not the Madison 123 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Woolies but the more productive influencers. So I think, like 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: you're Sarah's Day, your Courtney Magnan, they're actually sharing their 125 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: big list of, Hey, this is all the things I 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: need to get done to and it's almost to prove 127 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: that they actually are doing stuff, because I think influencers 128 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: have really gotten that negative tag that they're not very 129 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: productive and all they do is sit at home and 130 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: maybe organize their pantry, as we see with some of them, 131 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: not with those two influence because I think they're great, 132 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: but for some of the lazier influencers, I feel like 133 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: it is a bit of a dick measuring competition in 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: the sense of, oh, look how much I'm like it's 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: kind of like they're trying to prove that they actually 136 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: have some worth. As you were saying, yeah, well, some influencers, though, 137 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: their to do list is basically their sort of beauty routine, 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: because some of their videos they'll be like, I got 139 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: to get my nails done, I've got to get my eyelashes. 140 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: But then I wonder, well they can't do that anymore? 141 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Is that their fun day? You know, do they want 142 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: to put across a life that they're not doing that much. 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: But then theirs who were boring ass well, I think 144 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: you've got to look at what their intent is. So 145 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: for people, you know, beauty influencers, their to do list 146 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: is their morning routine or their skin care or their 147 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: nighttime routine, and we watch it because we want to 148 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: be like them and we want to look like them, 149 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: Whereas I think with a productive influencer, they're sharing all 150 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: their inspirational stuff and that makes us then want to 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: work harder. So I suppose it depends what content you're 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: actually watching. It's so true because I feel like we 153 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: do idolize these people. So even where there's an influencer 154 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: or YouTuber who perhaps it doesn't fit within their brand 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: to be doing a cupboard hole or a clean out, 156 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I think that they actually get requested those videos quite 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot because people just want to do anything to 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: be like them. There is a negative side because you know, 159 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I'll watch it and I don't think I'm really getting 160 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: much out of it. I'm just doing it to relax. 161 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: But apparently the more you watch and the deeper you 162 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: get in this voyeurism, the more you actually start comparing 163 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: your own lives to these people and start feeling inadequate, 164 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: which I thought was really interesting. Do you know what's funny? 165 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: After watching Madison Woolly's laundry clean out, I did think, oh, 166 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: my laundry looks big crap, But wow, that's probably true. Well, 167 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: I found that really interesting with the whole pantry thing, 168 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: because I think that's become really popular on YouTube at 169 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: the moment with isolation, and I actually did a bit 170 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: of research into it, and of course it started with celebrities, 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: and these were the top people that could afford to 172 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: have people come in and organize their pantries, like you've 173 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: seen Kim Kardashian with the fridges with all the perfect drinks. 174 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: And then that's kind of trickled down into influences and 175 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: then those sort of micro influencers that set up their 176 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: own accounts to sort of show off how organized they are. Yeah, 177 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I think we've also got to acknowledge the fact that 178 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: at the moment, because we're in lockdown, there's not all 179 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: these different activities that they really can be doing, and 180 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: it does seem to be the kind of in vogue 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: thing to do clean up your house and make it 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: look presentable. I think it's all about status, and as 183 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: you said, there's not much to do. But normally influencers 184 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: have their trips to brag about different products and maybe 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, the people aren't sending them as many products, 186 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: so what have they got to have people envy? Well, 187 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: let me do my house, let me do my covert up, 188 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: and look how organized I am. That's what it kind 189 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: of comes across. Yeah, Well, when I was reading about 190 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the pantry organization, it says, well, what more can you 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: about than the fact that your pantry or wardrobe or 192 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: under your bathroom cupboards are organized? Like, what does that 193 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: say about your life? You must be on the ball 194 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: completely if those areas are perfect. Do you know what? 195 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: I love to watch those people that have the organized 196 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: life because I'm not very organized, And maybe that's more 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: a reflection of me. Maybe I'm wanting to be inspired, 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: but I sit there and be like, look at them, like, 199 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: how do they have that? How could you live like that? Well, 200 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: that actually leads into hate following, So I think that's 201 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people seem to know a lot about 202 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: hate following. It's you know, you're angry and you might 203 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: purposely go and follow someone that irks you or that 204 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: you cringe at, and it kind of has this way 205 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: of making you either feel better about yourself or a 206 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: way to get your anger out. And there's apparently two 207 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: types of it. So there's positive hate following and then 208 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: there's negative hate following. So the positive one is when 209 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: you're actually like reading different commentary on like a news article, 210 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: to try and see two sides of you, and people 211 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: actually do that, I feel like it must be the secondary. Well, 212 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: apparently it's sort of like consuming knowledge that you don't 213 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: agree with in the hope of furthering your own knowledge, 214 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: but in the end it actually seems to just strengthen 215 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: your opposite eyes. I've done that before though, Like there's 216 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: podcasts that I listen to where I don't particularly like 217 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: the people on there, and I'm listening to further educate 218 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: myself on other people I don't know, but it's not 219 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: the people that you have a dislike. It's meant to 220 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: be their opinion. So there might be a topic that 221 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: you don't have, you don't agree with, but you listen 222 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: to it in the hope that you strengthen your full 223 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: opinion of the topic, kind of like listening to Donald Trump. 224 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Perhaps I was going to say, you're gonna be a 225 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: pretty big person to be able to seek out content 226 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: to help yourself grow. I'm suggesting that I'm not a 227 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: big person to do I think this is okay. Well, Kate, 228 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: you read the second one because I think you're I mean, 229 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. I fall into the second category. Yeah, well, 230 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: I think most people do, which is the negative hate following, 231 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: where people engage in hate reading or hate watching purely 232 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: for the purpose of feeling outrage. Can we just take 233 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: the word hate away because I'm not. I suppose in 234 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: some sense you are hating on them, but it's kind 235 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: of like this thing where you envy them and you 236 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: get a sick kick out of seeing how they do 237 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: things and kind of sniggering. But I wouldn't. I don't know, 238 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: hate such a strong ting. To be honest, I feel 239 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: like I used to before the term hate following came around. 240 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I used to do this people I 241 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: disliked at UNI or at high school. You know, you 242 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: jump online, you'd look up the people that pratts were 243 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: popular at school or that you didn't particularly like, and 244 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: keep an eye on what they were doing on the 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: weekend and you got some sort of sick kick out 246 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: of disliking what they were doing. Yeah, well, it's meant 247 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: to give you a sense of moral righteousness and superiority. 248 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: You're comparing what you're doing to them, and oh, look 249 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: at them, what they're doing. And it is funny because 250 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I do it. As we've all said, we all do it, 251 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: but it's really kind of it's a bit yuck when 252 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: you think about why you actually do it, and it 253 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: is a way of getting your anger out, or maybe 254 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: maybe someone has something that you wanted, or maybe you're 255 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: comparing yourself because I find I watch a lot of 256 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: twenty year olds that are, like, you know, the ten 257 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: years younger than me, and I'm watching them in their 258 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: perfect house with their you know, seemingly perfect like like, 259 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's saying something more about me in my own twenties, 260 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's quite interesting to delve 261 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: into it. But I don't think there's anything wrong with 262 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: hate following in the sense of if you don't actually 263 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: then go on comment on their page. I think the 264 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: moment that you write what you're thinking or feeling towards 265 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: that person or about that person, it turns negative but 266 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I think there is some sort of enjoyment that can 267 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: be taken out of disliking something. I know that sounds bad, 268 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: but everyone is guilty of doing it, whether you want 269 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: to admit it or not. And you're right. I think 270 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: when it gets nasty and trolling, you're crossing a line. 271 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: But if you feel better, and if you like to 272 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: have a little giggle looking in at how other people 273 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: do think, that's a little bit different. I say, just 274 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: do it. If that's what you're into, then go for it. 275 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: It's like a guilty pleasure, it is. I think, as 276 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: long as you're not joining these anti fandoms that are 277 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: like slamming people online. Because I did a bit of 278 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: research and there's apparently a website called get off My 279 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: Internet and there's just threads about certain voggers and instagrams. 280 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's way too far. So you can't join 281 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: if you want a gossip about it with your friends 282 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: over it. But joining hate pages and writing shit about people, 283 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's got time for that. But for me, 284 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I think that's where that interesting connection is because it's 285 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: not like you actually hate the person. I actually quite 286 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: like the people I hate. Follow I've got a weird 287 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: love hate relationship with them. It's perfect. I think it's 288 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: because a lot of people want to portray that they're 289 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: perfect online, and I think that's where the thing is. 290 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's the envy thing. I think it 291 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: should almost be envy following, because you want to be 292 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: more like that, and then because you're not, you're like, yeah, 293 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: you sort of magnify everything wrong that they do and 294 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: blow it out of proportion. I love this quote from 295 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: journalist Joel Goldby. He said, I get mad in a 296 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: way that gives me energy. I feel a foot taller, 297 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: like I can shoot fire from my fingertips. Everyone is 298 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: awful and it's brilliant to watch, and it's so true 299 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: because it really is society reflecting the negative and positive 300 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: things about it. We had a bit of an awkward 301 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: I suppose incident last or situation last week where everyone 302 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: will know that we love Sarah's Day and hurt. And 303 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: they did a podcast recently that made me feel a 304 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: bit irt And I've never felt like that. I've always 305 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: loved watching them, I've never hate followed them. Everyone to 306 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: say that I'm their number one fan. Yeah, And there 307 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: was a podcast which they did, and it was meant 308 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: to be inspiring people I supposed to do better in 309 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: business talking about success, Yeah, talking about success, and I 310 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: just feel like they missed the mark completely. It is 311 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: really interesting to analyze why that podcast particularly annoyed us. 312 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: As we said, we really are super fans of both 313 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Sarah and Kurt, and this is nothing against them, but 314 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I think it really is about the way they build 315 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: themselves up on social media. So they are popular purely 316 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: because they are so relatable. She is so open with 317 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: everything that she does, and I love watching it and 318 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: I do feel like i'm her friend. But I feel 319 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: like there's a part of their lives that they're hiding, 320 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: and it really is starting to trickle through because obviously 321 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: they've just bought this massive house in Cronala. It's basically 322 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: a mansion that they're completely renovating, and it doesn't look 323 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: like they're sparing any and then Sarah's also I believe 324 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: it must be some sort of cooking app that she's 325 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: doing on the side. So they're obviously extremely successful and 326 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: extremely busy, but what we see about their daily lives 327 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story and vlogs is completely different to 328 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: what they actually must be doing so I felt like 329 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: you've actually felt a bit lied to. I feel like 330 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: there's a bit of a disconnect because normally Sarah would 331 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: post a few times a week, and that's when you'd 332 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: see her days off, you know, tear down at Cridnella 333 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: with Fox and just living a life. I suppose a 334 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of people would envy, but was enjoyable to watch. 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: But now they're revealing a little bit more about their wealth. 336 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: They spoke about their ebook and the success that that had, 337 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: and I suppose that it made them instantly rich, and 338 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: so maybe it's more a reflection of us. Maybe we 339 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: are envying their wealth, I suppose, but I don't know. 340 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: It came across to me as something If I was 341 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: doing the pr for her, I would highlight it as 342 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: a disconnect and say, look, you're going to have to 343 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: start posting more of the stuff you normally do, or 344 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: you're going to have to start taking fans on the 345 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: journey of how your business work. But you're saying that 346 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: she's putting up a facade, but then she's not. She's 347 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: being unlikable by saying what's really happening, Like that's obviously 348 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: why she's not out there, but they mentioned in their 349 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: podcast that they feel like sometimes they can't share stuff, 350 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: and I think people want to know what's going on. 351 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: And when they mentioned little tidbits about, oh, we're doing this, 352 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: we can't talk about it or we don't know why 353 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to share, I think everyone wants to know more about that. 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: To be honest, if we were pissed off by that 355 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: one podcast, we're probably going to be pissed off if 356 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: they're rubbing their wealth. But I feel like you need 357 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: to have you need to have progression with your audience. 358 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: So obviously she's obviously she knows that her brand is 359 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: based on relatability, but if she wants to continue taking 360 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: people along with the ride, she can't just pretend that 361 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: she's still relatable. I think I actually think that's wrong. 362 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: I think the one element that was actually missing from 363 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that podcast was the realization that she's in quite a 364 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: lucky position. I think that's what was lacking for Yeah, 365 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: I think one part that we didn't mention. I think 366 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: what I found little tone deaf about the podcast was 367 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: talking about their wealth. They've been posting a lot about 368 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: this sort of two million dollar place that they've been 369 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: like they've ripped it out it was beautiful before. That's 370 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: if that's what they want to do. I love watching 371 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: those videos. I think it's super cool. But the thing is, 372 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: when you're continually bombarding people with content we haven't seen 373 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: that's relating a lot about their wealth and people are 374 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: going through hard times with COVID nineteen, it seems a 375 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: little bit tone deaf, And that's what would worry me 376 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: if I was managing them. Yeah, and I think particularly 377 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: because they shared that they spent six thousand dollars on 378 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: rugs and it just seemed like a really bad time 379 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: to share it. But I think, as you said, so 380 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: if it comes down to the fact where I think, 381 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: because they are in such a position of influence that 382 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: they needed to juxtaposition it with we are so lucky, 383 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: rather than don't be jealous of us. I think by 384 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: telling people don't be jealous of us, it kind of 385 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: put them on a bit of a pedestal. I think 386 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: that for those who haven't listened to it as well, 387 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: I think that their message was a little bit contradictory too, 388 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: because they led into the podcast by saying how wealthy 389 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: they'd become, but then that success isn't wealth, so it 390 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: was a bit of a contradictory message, but I still 391 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: personally love them. I'm still living for their renovation blockers. 392 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: I still love them too, But I just found an 393 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: interesting point to talk about to almost evaluate our own 394 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: the psychology behind. I mean, I just want to delve 395 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: deeper why I was irked by it, and also perhaps 396 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: you know why someone like Madison Wooly that's trying to 397 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: project something of perfection, how you kind of do hate 398 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: follow her a little bit, but normally you love follow 399 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Sarah's day because she is so relatable and she shows 400 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: us her pimples and whatnot. But then she took the 401 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: step of being unrelatable. 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Yeah, it's a job that he takes 427 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: on every year. I think it was the first year 428 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: he had to make a Thomas the tain Kenjin cake 429 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: and this year he was tasked by making a cave 430 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: of Wonders from Aladdin, and there were some special elements 431 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: that needed to be included on the proviso from Sonny, 432 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: his son, which was the cave must glow and the 433 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: cave must glow from mouth and eyes now play a 434 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: bit of homage to his Lego master Roots, and he 435 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: included some lego elements in the mouthpiece of this. So 436 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: he managed to I have no idea what the actual 437 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: technical terms were, but he managed to make it glow, 438 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive. But I just love the fact 439 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: how he was constantly sipping on tequila and encounting all 440 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: these issues with the cake that then he had to solve. 441 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. Yeah, especially how he left it 442 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: till ten o'clock at night to start the process, which 443 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: went on till about one point thirty two in the morning. 444 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I also enjoyed the fact that he clearly didn't bake 445 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: the cake, that he had like three pre made cakes 446 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: that he took out of the oven. Can you take 447 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: us through what the pit is? Cake? Will Joel Sellwood, 448 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: who is a geelong AFL player. He has shared a 449 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: disturbing TikTok video of him and his wife, brit and 450 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: in the video he flips her over and holds her 451 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: up and dips her head into a bucket of water 452 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: so her hair gets wet, and then pretends she is 453 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: a mop. Now. She did share the video on her 454 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: own platform as well, and the videos have now been 455 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: taken down because they got such severe backlash. It was 456 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: just really weird. What did you think of it, Sophie, Yeah, well, 457 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: it did seem a bit old. I mean, I'd be 458 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: pretty furious if my boyfriend dipped my head in a 459 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: bugget of water. Well, she was a happy participant, but 460 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I just think it's a really bad look for Joel 461 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: cell Wood, who is a role model and to be 462 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: doing that to a woman. It's just got a lot 463 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: of negative connotations and it's Yeah, I just didn't like 464 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: it at all. It is interesting, though, the topic of 465 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: AFL players and wags because there've been a number of 466 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: articles published recently showing that people are choosing to unfollow 467 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: wags during this whole lockdown time. People like Rebecca Jard 468 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: and Nadia Bartel, they've dropped thousands of followers at the 469 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: moment because people seem to be over they're very curated 470 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: and brand focus content. Yeah, that is interesting. I suppose, 471 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: going off the back of the topic that we've just 472 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: spoken about with influencers sharing mundane tasks, maybe they've got 473 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: to do that. I'd like to toast to Stacy Michael 474 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: for having the Fakers relationship and Australi reality TV history. 475 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: So let's get into the reality wrap of the week. 476 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: And it's been a big week and I suppose the 477 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: biggest story to come out so far has been Pete 478 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: Evans getting the chop from My Kitchen Rules. What I 479 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: found most shocking about this is they revealed he was 480 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: getting paid eight hundred thousand dollars. Well, palaeo food is 481 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: quite expensive, so maybe the thing is I don't know 482 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: whether it's a case of them getting rid of him 483 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: or the fact that MKR is clearly not going to 484 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: be on next year. Yeah, I found it surprising that 485 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: they announced he's been cut. They obviously didn't mention anything 486 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: about Menu and Colin or the fate of the show, 487 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: which you would exsume would be acted as well. A 488 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: website that's I can't remember the name of it, but 489 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: it's some TV insider. They claim the MKR was getting 490 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: the boot and that's why Pete has gone, but you know, 491 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Manu has other shows on seven. What's that show where 492 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: he's always like getting drunk in his cooking and traveling 493 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: to France, and so I don't I think the reason 494 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: that they haven't announced mkr's cancelation possibly is because they're 495 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: still trying to work out what to do with Manu 496 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: and Colin. Maybe they'll get the Master Chef judges in there. 497 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't. I think MKR is going 498 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: to go. I think people are sick of cooking. It's 499 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: worked for Master Chef, but I don't know whether it 500 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: would have worked if we weren't in Isolating. Well, they 501 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: tried to do the reboot on MKR and bring back 502 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: all the old contestants, and no one was interested. I 503 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's so much people are sick of cooking, 504 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: because I think ever since Isolation it's really sparked home cooks. 505 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: I think it's more that people were sick of the 506 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: made up drama. Yeah, a lot of people. I was 507 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: reading the comments, a lot of people were saying that 508 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: they were sick of the bitchiness. I feel like there's 509 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: so many opportunities where they could have axed him sooner. 510 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he was involved in the bone broth controversy. 511 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: More recently, he was in trouble for saying that air 512 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: purifiers would help treat cod nineteen. So there have been 513 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: many misdemeanors that he could have been sacked for. Yeah, 514 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: but I don't actually think this latest misdemeanor has anything 515 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: to do with Seven's decision. I think for Pete it 516 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: was just poor timing and it's almost as if seven 517 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: are trying to take a bit of the kudos for 518 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: getting rid of him. Now. It had nothing to do 519 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: with it. They're in a poor financial position where they're 520 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: needing to cut people, and obviously they have no intention 521 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: of doing MKR next year. He's on eight hundred thousand dollars. 522 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: That's why they've got rid of him. Nothing to do 523 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: with the controversy. And also it's going to be great 524 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: because people. I think we were having this chat earlier, Kay, 525 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: and you were saying you were a bit concerned now 526 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have Channel seven to rain him in. 527 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: But the reality is he was on Sunday Night talking 528 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: about his paleo lifestyle. I'm not sure what I think 529 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: about Pete Evans. I don't want to say either way, 530 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: because he could be onto something, who knows, but at 531 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: least he won't have such a big media company behind 532 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: him pushing some of his crazy ideas if they are wrong. 533 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I've kind of got to disagree with you there, Amy, 534 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: because he's already got a huge platform himself now because 535 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: of appearing on the show. And I was listening to 536 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: an interesting chat on Mamma Mia out loud, and they 537 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: were talking about how he's more dangerous now because he 538 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have the TV show raining him in. And since 539 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: he has left the show, he has been putting out 540 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: even more weird content. He was posting a link to 541 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: a very contentious podcast that actually got banned on a 542 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of platforms about this whole plandemic stuff, and it's 543 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: just some very dangerous content he's putting out. The thing is, though, 544 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: without the backing of seven, he lacks any credibility now. 545 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of reports slagging him 546 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: off in his character and I'm not saying if I 547 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: agree with it or not. I'm just saying that without 548 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: the backing of seven, a lot of people are going 549 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: to go, oh no, he's just some loony Yeah. But 550 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I don't think he 551 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: really rained in his behavior even when he was working 552 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: for Seven, and I think Seven used it to their 553 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: advantage because he got bigger and bigger for being controversial 554 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: and they benefited from that. Yeah, but ever since he 555 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: was controversial, the show's popularity really plummeted. I mean, I 556 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: I think everyone tuned in for the chefs though I 557 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: loved Pete exactly, so we all used to love him, 558 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: but then when he started going weird, I stopped tuning in. 559 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it's probably got a cult like following though 560 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: from people who are in the paleo. Well yeah, yeah, 561 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: we're moving on to another judge of a cooking show, 562 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: and we're going to be talking about Melissa for a 563 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: Master Chef. Now. This has really pissed me off because 564 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I actually really enjoy watching her on the show. I 565 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: found her one of my favorite judges, to be honest. 566 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I know everyone's going on about how hot 567 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: Jock is, but I find her a breath of fresh 568 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: and hot. I don't know, I think we've discussed this before. 569 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that hot. I think it's like 570 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: a mum thing where it's like mums think that he's hot. 571 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: How is Hayden Quinn not the hottie of the series. 572 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: We all know that Hayden is. But anyway, Melissa has 573 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: been coppying a lot of shit, everyone saying that she's 574 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: going to be the judge that's going to get axed 575 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: from the show, and it's like, why may that be Andy? 576 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Do we always have to turn on the woman? Though? 577 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Is that? Do you think that it's a bit of it? Yeah, 578 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: I totally think it is. And also, I mean, she's 579 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: doing so much for the show. I know there's a 580 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: lot of people from different cultures and backgrounds on the show, 581 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: but it is amazing to finally have a female judge 582 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: that is, of course Singaporean and Chinese. And all everyone 583 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: seems to want to do is drag her down. And 584 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: she has been so open about her background. She's shared 585 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: that she's had clinical depression. She's shared that she grew 586 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: up feeling different from everyone else. Everyone just wants to 587 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: hate on somebody, and to be honest, I mean, I 588 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: really liked Andy on Master Chef, but if we're looking 589 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: at everybody's credentials, surely he should be a contestant. Not 590 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: so he's got like a three hat restaurant. He's yeah, 591 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I know, but it's Master Chef the what is it? 592 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: I thought Poe would be a judge over him. Yeah, 593 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: I just I don't know if he has the personality 594 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: to be a judge. He definitely has the credentials. He's 595 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: one of the most successful Master Chef contestants. But I 596 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit odd having him as a 597 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: judge in his first year when a series when they're 598 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: having old contestants coming back confusing and he's got that 599 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: relationship with other contestants. Oh, that guy's gone now. But 600 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: I kind of mean in terms of when you looked 601 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: at Gary and George and all of that, they all 602 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: seem to have their strength and they seem to be 603 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: able to host the show a bit more confidently. I 604 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: find that he's a little bit like he's really cute, 605 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: and I do like him, but he's the one that's 606 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: lacking if we're pointing the finger. It is interesting that, 607 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: of course, out of the new judges, it is a 608 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: female judge that is copying a lot of heat, because 609 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: it's always females who get pulled under a bigger microscope 610 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: than everyone else. Previously it was oh, she was posing 611 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: in provocative images with vegetables, like, when did we ever 612 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: hear that perspective? She was just holding an egg plant. 613 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying that people were blowing it up to be 614 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: something it wasn't. Yeah, I find it really ridiculous. There 615 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: was an article saying how she doesn't rehearse with the 616 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: judges and she doesn't put in as much effort because 617 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: she's always away in her little room doing her food blogging. 618 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, but that's her job. The other 619 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: two are chefs. They actually are going to be building 620 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: up their profile and then are going to benefit when 621 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: people are coming to their restaurants. But she's going to 622 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: stay relevant now and if she can do work in 623 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: her caravan or whatever she's doing it in. And also 624 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I did read about her clinical depression and she said 625 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: she's got a code word she uses with producers and 626 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: if things are getting a bit too much, she likes 627 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: to go away and have her private time. But of 628 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: course all of these things are being blown out of 629 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: proportion and it she's like a prima donna. Look, the 630 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: reason she's copping so much like is she's just the 631 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: easy target. But I think she is doing an amazing job, 632 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: So Melissa that you keep going because we're all supporting you. 633 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: Now onto Love Island Australia. It's been canceled basically this year. 634 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: We won't Well, I'm just bummed that the UK version 635 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: has been canceled. But it's understandable. They can't travel anywhere, 636 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: so I feel like there's a lot of areas in 637 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: the world that are becoming the green zones that are 638 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: safe to travel, So why can't they send them somewhere 639 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: there and just test them all to New Zealand or something. No, 640 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: there's some other I saw some islands in Italy. It 641 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: was some bizarre sp I think that was going to 642 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: send them to Cornwall. Oh, and then they just said, no, 643 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: it's not going to be the same show. This is 644 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: the Casula Queensland. Some of the islands up there, like 645 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Hayman Island or something that would be amazing, that'd be 646 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: heaps good. Well anyway, so Love Island Australia's it's not 647 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: going to be on. What's really interesting about this is 648 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: nine has the rights for Love Island Australia. So Love 649 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Island Australia is a production from ITV. So what's happened 650 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: is nine has actually let their rights for the program lapse, 651 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought this was a huge 652 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: mistake by nine, but it turns out it may have 653 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: been a ploy because we all understand with COVID nineteen 654 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the big channels are losing money because 655 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: advertisers are dropping out. So they had this idea that 656 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: if they let it laps, it would drive the price 657 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: down for ITV, And because seven and ten are struggling, 658 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: they thought there'd be no interest and they'd be able 659 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: to pick up Love Island again for a still. Well, 660 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: everything's changed at seven. Apparently seven are really keen to 661 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: get Love Island, and now there's going to basically be 662 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: a bidding war. So there's egg on the face of nine. 663 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: So it will return in twenty twenty one, but we 664 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: don't know what station it's going to return on, or 665 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: if Sophie Monk's going to be back. It's pretty interesting 666 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: to look the direction that seven is moving in. You know, 667 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: they're going to be airing Big Brother this year, thank goodness, 668 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and then going to have a show like Love Island. 669 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it moves away from the other programming 670 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: that we're used to on TV Central. Do you think 671 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: putting it out there. Do you think instead of my 672 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: kitchen rules, they'll get Love Island and put Love Island 673 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: up against maps. I don't think they will. I think 674 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: from what I've read, Love Island Australia did really well 675 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: for nine now, and there's a big push to have 676 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: seven I think what is it? Is it seven Now? 677 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: Whatever their app is, their streaming service. I think they 678 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: say it's a big thing though that we all don't 679 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: know what it is, you know, like ten Play, nine, 680 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: seven Mate or whatever it is. I think they want 681 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: to get millennials onto that streaming service because they're not 682 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: doing very well and Love Island obviously did extremely well. 683 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: They want to fix their streaming services up. I think 684 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: only one that's usable is nine Now. Yeah, ten is terrible. 685 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: If anyone watches The Bachelort, do you notice that it 686 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: always goes out of sync anytime you watch. It's terrible. 687 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: But it's really interesting, as you say about seven trying 688 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: to draw in a millennial crowd, because they have been 689 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: criticized for a long time for having a very very 690 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 1: old demographic of viewers who are probably dying off. Well, 691 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: it seems like Channel seven are turning into the New 692 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: Channel ten. You're insignificant ass square. Now let's get into 693 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: our awkward turtle segment. And now, so for you're a 694 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: star of this segment, I think you will continue to be. 695 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: You've got to tell us what happened at the bank. 696 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: I feel like these things don't happen to me. So 697 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: we were at the bank registering our business outspoken Media, 698 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: and you know where they're dressed like absolute bums because 699 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: we found we didn't look too professional, did we. We 700 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: were just in our tracking dad, but it looked like 701 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: you guys, well it actually it looked like we were 702 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: all in disguise because we had caps on, just rubbing 703 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: the bank. Yeah, our own money heights anyway, and the 704 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: guy was a bit flustered because he was having to 705 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: get all of the forms organized for each of us 706 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: to sign. Anyway, it's my time to sign the form, 707 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and I'm getting ready to do my signature, and out 708 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: of nowhere, snot just drops out of my nose onto 709 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: the form, and quite a lot of it, and my 710 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: immediate reaction was to quickly dab the snot with my 711 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: with my slave, and the man saw so I said 712 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: to oh, sorry, I think I've just snotted all over 713 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: this and what a lovely thing to do during this pandemic. 714 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: And then as if I'd almost forgotten that I'd admitted 715 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: to doing it. Then Kate went to sign after me, 716 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: and I said, oh, sorry, Kat, I think I've spilt 717 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: some water on this form. I had no idea what 718 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: you were going on about it. I was like, oh, yeah, 719 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: you know what. You were so not subtle about it 720 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: because I didn't even know what happened. It was as 721 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: if the man didn't exist. You came up to me 722 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: giggling and laughing, and I don't want to I don't 723 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: want to look at him. I don't want to see 724 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: it like he can hear you. Yeah. Then she started 725 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: talking to me about it. I'm like, this is just 726 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: getting worse. It took so long to sign the rest 727 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: of the forms. I feel like you should have been 728 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: forcefully removed from the bank. I think the worst thing 729 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: was I feel like you could get away with it 730 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: if we weren't having this pandemic at the moment, because 731 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seemed even dirtier and feel I've 732 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: never had that happen to me. I don't know if 733 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: anyone else happened to me all the time. It happened 734 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: to me on Mother's Day. I don't know what you know? 735 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Does this happen to anyone else? Like it just drops? 736 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: It's more of a dream, It's not like it's sort 737 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: of watery yuck. Anyway, we'll have to put a question 738 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: out there. Does this embarrassing? I don't know if nose 739 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: dripping happened to anyone else? Or is it just Sophie 740 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: and I? Is it a triplet thing that Amy's missed 741 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: out on. Well that's all we've got time for, so 742 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: thanks once again for joining us. If you did enjoy 743 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: the show, we'd love if you could share it on 744 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: your Instagram and please remember to tag us so we 745 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: can of course reshare it. And everyone please get onto 746 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Ja's health because as I said, they are absolutely incredible, 747 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: and there is the opportunity to use the discount code, 748 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: so i'd highly highly recommend jumping on there and doing that. 749 00:34:32,480 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to be stocking up this week. Open