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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation.

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Speaker 2: We're Jonesy and Man.

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Speaker 1: On this day in nineteen ninety seven, twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 1: we lost Michael Hutches. Wow, twenty five years of course

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Speaker 1: we know the story is found dead in his hotel

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Speaker 1: room at the Ritz Carlton. We all remember where we

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Speaker 1: were when it happened, when we heard that news. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they've been much made of his demise. Was it deliberate?

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Speaker 1: Was it a sex act gone bad? Was he pushing

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Speaker 1: the boundaries? I've sort of rotated through all of those things.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at Michael's life, and I interviewed

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Speaker 1: him two weeks before he passed away. They had an

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Speaker 1: upcoming tour and I found, as you might have found,

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Speaker 1: because I think you were working with Andrew Denton had

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Speaker 1: spoken to him. He was quite down. He was underwhelmed

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Speaker 1: about the upcoming tour. And I just feel if you

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Speaker 1: just hung on a little bit longer. This was nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety seven. It was an era when bands like even

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Speaker 1: like the Rolling Stones, all those bands hadn't had the

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Speaker 1: resurgence things, you know what I mean, the nostalgia. And

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Speaker 1: there was a series of events. I remember who's presenting it.

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Speaker 1: Some the britt pop Awards or something like that. An

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Speaker 1: oasis came.

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Speaker 2: Up and they just said he was boring.

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Speaker 1: They just said we should be getting awards from up

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Speaker 1: and coming. It's not has beens. And I think it

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Speaker 1: was Liam Gallagher or Noel Gallagher who said that, And

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure one of them said that they had

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Speaker 1: regret about what they said that day because Michael Hutchins

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Speaker 1: was not a has been, but I think it is might.

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Speaker 1: He was a very sensitive guy and then he was

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Speaker 1: assaulted by that that nutbag taxi driver, remember that, And

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Speaker 1: he got king hit and he lost his sense of

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Speaker 1: smell and taste.

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Speaker 2: Also, I think there's a lot going on in his

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Speaker 2: private life in that Bob Geldoff. Paula wanted to be

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Speaker 2: joining him in Australia, but Bob didn't want her to

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Speaker 2: bring the children he was in. There was a state

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Speaker 2: of flux in all aspects of his life.

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Speaker 1: So I was a day pack with sadness with Michael Hutchins.

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Speaker 1: Let's remember