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Speaker 1: Now we know that a lot of Territorians are fed

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Speaker 1: up with crime. You can certainly hear that when you

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Speaker 1: listen to the show each day, and yesterday about thirty

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Speaker 1: business owners and operators gathered in Yarawanga to voice their concerns.

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Speaker 1: One of them's Ian Sloane, the owner of the Berry

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Speaker 1: Springs tavern, who you would have heard on the show

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Speaker 1: last Friday after his business was ram rated. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Ian.

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Speaker 2: Good a, Katie, how are you today?

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Speaker 1: Not too bad? Tell me how did that meeting go yesterday?

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Speaker 2: I think it went really well, Katie. As you said,

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Speaker 2: it was about thirty businesses represented from the Palmerston and

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Speaker 2: sort of rural area and it was good to sort

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Speaker 2: of get our stories out there and credible attention to

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Speaker 2: what we've had to deal with over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of months, couple of years really and try and get

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Speaker 2: some results, hopefully out of these from the government.

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Speaker 1: And so what were the businesses basically saying yesterday at

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Speaker 1: that meeting? Slowly, from what you could gather.

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Speaker 2: I think that the overwhelming consensus, well, everybody's set up

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Speaker 2: and they've set up that there's no consequences. So these people,

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Speaker 2: they're set up that the justice system appears to be

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Speaker 2: flawed and it just seems to be easy for fenders

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Speaker 2: to get back out of the streets. I think they're

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Speaker 2: set up with hearing about kids, not even kids, but

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Speaker 2: even adults reoffending, you know, having an ankle, bracelets on,

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Speaker 2: and then be back out on the straight, you know,

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Speaker 2: several times getting caught and then there's no consequences. I

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Speaker 2: think we're all fed up about hearing about the rights offenders,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we'd like to hear a bit more

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Speaker 2: about what's going to happen to the victims, because it

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Speaker 2: all seems to be geared up towards the offenders. You know, well,

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Speaker 2: I would love to know how much money we spend

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Speaker 2: on legal representation for these people and they diverge in

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Speaker 2: programs and all the other things that come along with it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 2: get offered seven hundred and fifty dollars victims of crime

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Speaker 2: payment and to drop in the ocean for all we

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Speaker 2: went three on Friday. Yeah, I think the main thing is,

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Speaker 2: I think we're all fed up just it's all about

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Speaker 2: the offenders and it's not about the victims.

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Speaker 1: And that's ralic and tell me how are things going

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Speaker 1: since you guys were ran righted towards the end of

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Speaker 1: last week.

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Speaker 2: Really good? Yeah, I think that the girls are continuing

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Speaker 2: to get all the support they need. I think they're

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Speaker 2: booked back work today. And then they came up and

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Speaker 2: see me this morning before she left, and oh they're

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Speaker 2: good plenty to support around them. I would say, one thing, like,

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Speaker 2: the one good positive thing comes out of these things

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Speaker 2: is the amount of support we've received from not just

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Speaker 2: the community, the other local businesses. We would have had

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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of text messages, emails and calls. People

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Speaker 2: just coming into the pub on Sunday and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: we just wanted to come in and stick a few

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Speaker 2: you know some of those businesses like Hawkins and Clements

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Speaker 2: they dropped us off some big concrete blocks on Monday

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Speaker 2: morning to help secure our bottle shop, which is great.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have to do that. Amazing man Jimmy Sherey's

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Speaker 2: offered them to take the girls out for dinner at

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Speaker 2: Hanneman give them a volt experience. So all of that

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Speaker 2: stuff's really overwhelming, and you know, it just restores a

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Speaker 2: bit of safe and.

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Speaker 1: You amount, it really does. Hey, And I always I always

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Speaker 1: think that in here that so often, you know, we

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Speaker 1: hear about these really terrible situations like we spoke to

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Speaker 1: always makes me feel better about this place is the

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Speaker 1: way that Territorians rally together and support each other when

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Speaker 1: you do go through those those bad situations present.

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Speaker 2: Katie, you know, we're lucky. We live in the most

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Speaker 2: beautiful place in the world. And I feel on our

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Speaker 2: broper help for us to have brought our kids up

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Speaker 2: in Darwin and especially in the rural areas. It's a

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Speaker 2: still here. We're so lucky, we're still blessed for what

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Speaker 2: we have, and it's just a shame that, you know,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, meetings, I guess to sort of keep our

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Speaker 2: actually act on it. You know, they have to.

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Speaker 1: I really think that it's reached the point where they

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. And I just said to

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Speaker 2: you on Friday, I just really like the powers that

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Speaker 2: they just to come out and talk to us and

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Speaker 2: here our stories and see what we're living through and

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Speaker 2: hopefully that's enough to change and the way they've gone

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Speaker 2: about their business, because what they're doing at the moment,

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Speaker 2: it isn't working. And as I said on Friday, it's

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Speaker 2: not the fault of the police. The police are doing

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Speaker 2: a fantastic job that you couldn't ask any walks in

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Speaker 2: the police. But it's just the follow up afterwards. It's

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Speaker 2: letting it all down. And I think that's what we'd

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Speaker 2: like to see fixed.

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Speaker 1: I can you tell me has there been any follow

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Speaker 1: up from the government after what had happened and that

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Speaker 1: shocking vision for you guys from Thursday morning Friday morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've had them. Department of the Business came

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Speaker 2: out on Monday to talk to us about being secure

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Speaker 2: and only has got a meeting this morning with them

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Speaker 2: of that as well. So yeah, they're helping. Contact made

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Speaker 2: to us. And you know a lot of those politicians

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Speaker 2: have also picked out and said, you know, thinking of you,

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Speaker 2: which is is I suppose that most of the politicians

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Speaker 2: are are really nice people, but I just I just

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Speaker 2: don't think some of them get at the moment. They

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Speaker 2: just they really need to get out of their offices

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Speaker 2: and see what's happening on the streets.

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Speaker 1: Ian Sloan, I appreciate you having a chat with us

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Speaker 1: this morning, and and you know, I think that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying is certainly something that a lot of others

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Speaker 1: are feeling, is one hundred percent correct. At this point

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Speaker 1: in time, there needs to be some action. There needs

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Speaker 1: to be some change. People can't continue on this path. Mate.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that everybody is going well also at Barry

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Speaker 1: Springs and that the girls are doing all right too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Thanks for Donna. Can I just

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Speaker 2: say thanks to Donad from Empty Handrails for organizing that

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Speaker 2: yesterday and all start sort of short notice them and

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Speaker 2: I had several people I worked last night and there

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Speaker 2: were several people said to me up there known about it,

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Speaker 2: they would have attended. Yes. Phone calls this morning as

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Speaker 2: well from people saying, you know, if we'd known that

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of there was only thirty odd businesses, sure,

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Speaker 2: I BSc, which was great. I think there would have

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Speaker 2: been a lot more with a bit more time and

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Speaker 2: a bit more advertising. But yeah, definitely, I was quite

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Speaker 2: surprised last how many people reached out for me and

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Speaker 2: said they would have. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've got a message that's even come through this morning

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Speaker 1: and it said, morning Katie, when you speak to Ian

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Speaker 1: Sign about yesterday's meeting, can you please mention that a

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Speaker 1: lot more business owners would have come to have our

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Speaker 1: say and support them if we'd known it was happening.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you spot on. I reckon you would have.

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Speaker 1: You'd have more people there. But look, unless there's action,

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Speaker 1: I've no doubt that that there'll probably be another one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, yeah, I hope so.

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Speaker 1: Good on you. I thank you, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning