Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch Up podcast. We're back and in yesterday's podcast.
Speaker 1: Just a quick throw to yesterday, just because I don't
Speaker 1: want to stop talking about these things. And yet it's
Speaker 1: five twelve and We've got to get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of here. I'm going to see my friends. You just
Speaker 1: got in from New York.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, I was.
Speaker 1: We traiveled around South America. Everyone's saying we're siblings.
Speaker 2: You went to South America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seventeen. Yeah, twenty seventeen. What's affectually known as
Speaker 1: the Gringo Trail.
Speaker 2: Not the Gringo Trail.
Speaker 1: I did it. I was King Gringo on that trail.
Speaker 1: You did.
Speaker 2: You've lived, babe, go back to that.
Speaker 1: It had shaved heads. I was in my friend Los
Speaker 1: and Bridget. We were going to go on to mar
Speaker 1: last moment in the pool. Yes, you really bad guys.
Speaker 1: It was lit no romantic interests, okay. I was in
Speaker 1: my solibate phase. I believe she is here from you.
Speaker 1: Her name is Loss.
Speaker 2: We clocked it the first time. I'm the second brand.
Speaker 1: Also, our last names are the same, but one letter
Speaker 1: is different from as no price. Oh, price and something else. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'll show you a photo of her, and you tell
Speaker 1: me if you think we look similar, really quick, really quick.
Speaker 1: I just want to know, because she's really pretty. Now
Speaker 1: that i've brown hair loss.
Speaker 2: I just see Charlotte. To be honest, I don't even
Speaker 2: know shot like that.
Speaker 1: Really this is her. Tell me if you see a resemblance,
Speaker 1: not even a little bit. Must be just a general
Speaker 1: attitude of good vibes.
Speaker 2: It's like a general Caucasian thing, like I'm sure you
Speaker 2: want to see brooking in some capacity. Maybe you could
Speaker 2: look similar, but not enough that I would even clock siblings,
Speaker 2: distant cousins.
Speaker 1: Did you see all my story that I was at
Speaker 1: one six one with my sister and Louis Hanson and
Speaker 1: James those guys, And I said, are we all siblings
Speaker 1: are dating? Because you're like dark hair?
Speaker 2: That that's more like it? Yeah? Correct, All right, potty time?
Speaker 2: What katas flex and fromes flex and froms I wish
Speaker 2: you could hear what we talk about when the mics
Speaker 2: are off, because it's feral behavior. Contrary to popular belief,
Speaker 2: we do self stifle on the mic. You might not
Speaker 2: think so. You might think these girls have no what's
Speaker 2: the word. I'm looking for decorum? M Maybe anyway, am
Speaker 2: I the asshole for walking home because my brother in
Speaker 2: law wouldn't let me eat in his car? Likes this
Speaker 2: is gonna be good. My brother in law was driving
Speaker 2: us home and my hands were starting to shake because
Speaker 2: I hadn't eaten. So I was going to eat one
Speaker 2: of the pastries I bought, but he said I couldn't
Speaker 2: eat in his car. He was acting like his precious
Speaker 2: car would combust if it got crumbs in it, so
Speaker 2: I asked him to pull over because I needed to
Speaker 2: eat something. I decided to walk home while I ate
Speaker 2: my pastry because I was annoyed at him. He kept
Speaker 2: asking me to get back in the car and claim
Speaker 2: my husbandold bust his balls if he let me walk home,
Speaker 2: But I told him I didn't care, and I walked
Speaker 2: the entire way. So now my husband is mad at
Speaker 2: his brother. My brother in law is mad at me
Speaker 2: because I refuse to get back in the car. He
Speaker 2: thinks the blame is on me. They had a huge
Speaker 2: argument when my husband first found out, and my husband
Speaker 2: also probably told me I should have just let his
Speaker 2: brother drive me home instead of being stubborn and walking.
Speaker 2: Every time we argue about it. My brother in law
Speaker 2: asked me if I'm going to start sulking again, which
Speaker 2: is really getting on my nerves. So am I the asshole?
Speaker 2: I just shaking because she was hungry. That sounds like
Speaker 2: someone who was raised who's like a little sister. That's
Speaker 2: a little sister behavior her related.
Speaker 1: Help me.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass out, I will say, and maybe eating
Speaker 2: a pastry that has not a sassinance. Sheouldn't think she
Speaker 2: was the asshole? What do you reckon?
Speaker 1: I will say. I love a staged walkout a car obsess.
Speaker 1: When you're walking, Oh, you feel this anger coursing through
Speaker 1: your body, and it always works the best when it's
Speaker 1: someone you know really loves you.
Speaker 2: It's running away from home as a six year.
Speaker 1: Old running with him. You got your little you got
Speaker 1: a stick on your shoulder with your sleeping bag on
Speaker 1: the back. That's the kind of vibe that we're getting.
Speaker 1: I will say. I grew up in a household where
Speaker 1: car manners were of the utmost important.
Speaker 2: Because a little bit of context here.
Speaker 1: Car car dealer father, Like, for example, if I slam
Speaker 1: the door, it's like the worst thing you can do.
Speaker 1: Sam yeah. Yeah, it was like slam the door and
Speaker 1: like it's it's game over. Sis. Also, eating in the car,
Speaker 1: I think like you'd sneak a cheeky McDonald's chip, but
Speaker 1: it was to be had at home, so I will
Speaker 1: say I also like understand what it's like to be
Speaker 1: car proud, and I think some people have no manners.
Speaker 1: Like the other day I had friends in my car
Speaker 1: and I brought them chocolate eggs. What do I find
Speaker 1: for the next week? Little, Yeah, have a bit of decorum.
Speaker 2: And as a d D a designated driver, I love
Speaker 2: d ding Right, There's some part in me that really
Speaker 2: loves being of service to people when it's not necessarily needed,
Speaker 2: but it's appreciated. And like, the one thing I hate
Speaker 2: is that, like I've got a nice car, right, I
Speaker 2: can treat it poorly because it's my car. You can't
Speaker 2: treat it poorly, especially because it's not your car. And
Speaker 2: a similar experience you pick up the girlishrom the night
Speaker 2: out they get a little macas around, have a little
Speaker 2: chippy two three, But why do I look at my
Speaker 2: back sat on the leather and I'm seeing stray chips,
Speaker 2: little oil stains when they try to pick the chips up,
Speaker 2: but they kind of miss salt. It's frustrating in this
Speaker 2: instance here, though, I'm imagining, like if you were so
Speaker 2: far from your destination that you like what I'm imagining,
Speaker 2: that you were close enough that it didn't matter that
Speaker 2: you couldn't eat in that moment. Right if you were
Speaker 2: so far away, I'm imagining that the brother in law
Speaker 2: would have just stopped and be like, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: just eat something. But this is why we need to
Speaker 2: bring back manipulation, because sometimes you need to go about
Speaker 2: getting what you want in a way that suits both parties.
Speaker 2: So you're shaking, you're ruining the vibe number one, you're
Speaker 2: shaking number two, the ultimatums like I need to eat now,
Speaker 2: we need to pull over, babes, we're on the road.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I didn't sympathize with
Speaker 2: ordering an uber from the wrong from like an unauthorized
Speaker 2: spot until I started driving, because it's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: really just can't stop anywhere. You really just can't pull over,
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna put the hazards on for a girl
Speaker 2: who wants to eat pastry, I can't. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to stuff. We're only hum So you
Speaker 2: are the asshole because you have caused a roof between
Speaker 2: the family. And a big thing about adulthood is self regulating.
Speaker 2: We're hungry all the time. I'm hungry now, you know
Speaker 2: I'm also sleepy. Can I sleep right now? No? No,
Speaker 2: no no, And I'm not blaming anyone else in the
Speaker 2: studio for it. We're just getting on with them.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms flecks. You look me in the eye.
Speaker 1: Put your phone down, see scrolling through your story.
Speaker 2: People don't like direct eye contact. I was just being mindful.
Speaker 1: You were giving me a lot this morning.
Speaker 2: Direct eye contact. Yeah, yeah, because I've been working on
Speaker 2: my active listening. Sometimes when I actively listen, you think
Speaker 2: I'm annoyed at you. So I'm trying out different faces
Speaker 2: and expressions for size.
Speaker 1: A bit of a smile in the eyes. It's quite
Speaker 1: off putting, actually, But keep with the eye contact.
Speaker 2: You don't want this now.
Speaker 1: I want you to imagine this, and if you're listening,
Speaker 1: I would like you to do the same deep breath
Speaker 1: in as I say, and out through the nose. Did
Speaker 1: a bullet come on, Brookie.
Speaker 2: You went in through the mouth, out through the mouth,
Speaker 2: through the nose out through.
Speaker 1: The mouth into the microphone. All right, close your eyes now,
Speaker 1: if you're driving, do not close your eyes. You know
Speaker 1: you've just broken up with your boyfriend, but you are
Speaker 1: still on good terms. He still has the keys to
Speaker 1: the apartment. It's a nightmare. He still has the keys
Speaker 1: to the apartment you shared and messages you if he
Speaker 1: can come over and grab some stuff while you're out.
Speaker 1: You think nothing of it and say yeah, sure. Minutes later,
Speaker 1: you remember you had a guy over the night before
Speaker 1: and left dong nom you know what? That rappers on
Speaker 1: the bench right next to where you needed to get
Speaker 1: his stuff.
Speaker 2: I love that we're practicing safety.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, do you need to give him a heads
Speaker 1: up and potentially make it worse or say nothing? Let
Speaker 1: him see it and wait to see if he brings
Speaker 1: it up with you. Just let that sink in.
Speaker 2: That is literally so scary to me, you know, it's
Speaker 2: so crazy. I used to be the kind of person
Speaker 2: who'd be like, you can definitely be friends with your ex.
Speaker 2: But that was in my narcissist era, where I couldn't
Speaker 2: stand that somebody who loved me would now hate me,
Speaker 2: so in like a manipulative thing, I would maintain this
Speaker 2: air of like mutual joviality. We're like friends and we're
Speaker 2: friendly and you still love me. We're is terrifying because realistically,
Speaker 2: what gets you to a breakup is someone's bad behavior,
Speaker 2: a lack of reciprocity, or in some way shape of
Speaker 2: form eroded trust, eroded care. These things are not fundamental
Speaker 2: or like. These things are not like, they're not the
Speaker 2: formula for a good relationship. I also think that, like
Speaker 2: maintaining a good relationship with your ex is very confusing
Speaker 2: because we humans don't have the capacity to like hold
Speaker 2: to incompatible things and understand them both. Like in your head,
Speaker 2: you're compartmentalizing in a way that's not healthy for you
Speaker 2: and often beneficial for the other person. So all those
Speaker 2: times where I was like, I'm just gonna be friendly,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be friendly, and know what I was doing
Speaker 2: hurting them, I was hurting myself number one, because I
Speaker 2: was denying that I wasn't actually in a good place
Speaker 2: to like be nice to you, Like I don't feel
Speaker 2: good about this, so expressing my emotions number one. Number two,
Speaker 2: I was like prioritizing the way it looked as opposed
Speaker 2: to the reality of what it was, and I was
Speaker 2: forcing myself to choose and decide how everything had to
Speaker 2: felt in the now, as opposed to letting things just
Speaker 2: be awkward for a bit, like letting things just be
Speaker 2: like awkward whatever, like existing that no man Let know
Speaker 2: what's it called no man's land territory, Like it's not nothing,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't what it was. Since we figure out
Speaker 2: what it is, things just need to be awkward. I
Speaker 2: will say, though, seeing the the miscellaneous rappers from the
Speaker 2: night before is punishment for being too comfortable in the dynamic?
Speaker 2: Why are you do it in a batch? You get
Speaker 2: two batches in and out facts, one for the things
Speaker 2: you can put into your car, the other for the removalist.
Speaker 1: If like, oh, it's so awful, isn't it? I just
Speaker 1: heard everything about it? You know what I want to say?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no, Let's just stop
Speaker 2: breaking up. Let's just continue to date everyone we've ever
Speaker 2: dated before, or knock them off credit cred a Web. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like will always be because you know,
Speaker 2: like the thing I don't like about an X the
Speaker 2: word makes you feel like you're not connected, but the
Speaker 2: reality is you are connected forever.
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 2: You're my ex, I'm your ex. Whether or not we
Speaker 2: ever have content, whether or not we ever have contact
Speaker 2: in future, what I experience with you affects my life forever.
Speaker 2: What you experience with me affects my life forever, vice
Speaker 2: versa right. So for that reason, I don't need some
Speaker 2: kind of like not contact but acknowledgment of that. I
Speaker 2: don't like how you go from being like someone's every
Speaker 2: day to like nothing. Babes, I'm in your law. When
Speaker 2: someone opens the book of your life, Babes, I'm chapters
Speaker 2: one through four. You can't even get to five through
Speaker 2: thirty without going through me first.
Speaker 1: White out is needed. We need one of those pens
Speaker 1: that you can delete with a little rubber. But we
Speaker 1: can't do that because that's life. This is flex and
Speaker 1: frooms on, Kita, What is.
Speaker 2: The appropriate response to being told something you already know?
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm mey yapping on, I'm telling you something
Speaker 2: that you know. What do you say, I'm doing this?
Speaker 2: Oh you're just nod.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just copy it one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So you would in no way say, oh I already
Speaker 2: know this. No, that's crazy. According to The New York
Speaker 2: mag though, the appropriate response is to say, you're right.
Speaker 1: Okay, how does that work?
Speaker 2: So let's say I'm telling you that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: what's a fact? Give me a fact.
Speaker 1: White dogs have crusty shit in their eyes.
Speaker 2: I know, not right, it's not right. Give me another one.
Speaker 1: Little white kervoodles that you bought ten years ago have
Speaker 1: crusty shit in their eyes.
Speaker 2: Right, how's it feel?
Speaker 1: How's it feeling? I guess it was a little bit better,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 2: This is my thing. So the first time since unpacking
Speaker 2: this series, we've had one thing that we kind of
Speaker 2: disagree on. If somebody is telling me something I already know,
Speaker 2: why should my response be to validate their ego not
Speaker 2: the fact, Like if I just already know, I know right,
Speaker 2: especially they're trying to edge, Like do you know that
Speaker 2: in Australia we drive on the left hand?
Speaker 1: SI?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And I'm like, you're right, but.
Speaker 1: Do you know I've seen you drive. You don't make me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just get on the other side to make
Speaker 2: sure you still got it, you know. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: why would I say you're right? In some context that
Speaker 2: is the most appropriate thing to say, but it makes
Speaker 2: it sound like every conversation I'm having where me and
Speaker 2: this other party are sharing information is like a game
Speaker 2: of pandering. You're right, No, you're right, I'm right, you're right. No,
Speaker 2: you're pretty No, thank you, because you should never answer
Speaker 2: a compliment with a compliment. It's what the list said.
Speaker 1: That's another one of the list. I will say, you
Speaker 1: did it to me earlier this morning. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I was talking about, but you said, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And then you said I'm doing that thing again, and
Speaker 1: I thought's the thing like already I had already told
Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, you said, I don't know what I
Speaker 1: was talking about. Yes, what was I talking about?
Speaker 2: What was for me talking?
Speaker 1: You don't even remember. This is why I have to
Speaker 1: tell my stories at least two times to be heard
Speaker 1: around here.
Speaker 2: No, if I was selling a story, it would have
Speaker 2: been like the third time. The way she was gearing up,
Speaker 2: you could tell she was just about to do like
Speaker 2: the full setup, the intro, the complication, the climax, and
Speaker 2: then the end. I said, no, no, no, we have
Speaker 2: had this one. Thank you. I was saving We were
Speaker 2: at a table full of people. They didn't have the
Speaker 2: heart to tell you, but I had the heart, because
Speaker 2: we did learn that if someone's telling you a story
Speaker 2: that you've already heard, you have two seconds to let
Speaker 2: them know you've already heard it. Just too. If you
Speaker 2: missed that two second window, I will say it's.
Speaker 1: The same with someone having stuff in their teeth, seeing
Speaker 1: a little bit of green spinach, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a chunky bit of bread in a little upper corner
Speaker 1: bybe I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: Two second window. Yeah, and if you don't in a
Speaker 2: two seconds one.
Speaker 1: Every time I go out to go get a coffee
Speaker 1: without my phone, which is something that I like to
Speaker 1: do in the morning, why don't we get home, have
Speaker 1: a little crusty bits of money, a little bit of chocolate.
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta check on your phone.
Speaker 1: I don't have my phone on.
Speaker 2: Me, but if you did with you checked, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Up here, so a little bit of my nose from
Speaker 1: the cappuccino dust babes. It's a four to one month
Speaker 1: emergency whatever you're six flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: That'd a best in breaking news. This is hot off
Speaker 2: the press, and by that I mean it's a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks old. Our favorite litoral blood sucking couple MGK
Speaker 2: and Megan Fox have broken up because he allegedly cheated.
Speaker 2: That is not the news I want to talk about.
Speaker 2: What I am more interested in is this phenomenon that
Speaker 2: happens when a objectively great, jous woman celebrity gets humbled
Speaker 2: by experiencing what one would assume is a very regular thing,
Speaker 2: and that is getting cheated on. Suddenly the general public
Speaker 2: like knocks them down on their pedestal a little bit.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh damn, I thought you were special, unique, different,
Speaker 2: subject to other worldly occurrences, and yet you are but
Speaker 2: a common person like me who gets cheat on. Hmm.
Speaker 2: Sad that I find is the most insidious thing to observe,
Speaker 2: because it's droves of people, hordes of people. Then the
Speaker 2: speculation happens, what is so wrong with you that you,
Speaker 2: this other worldly, beautiful specimen is getting cheated on? M
Speaker 2: Are you hard to be around? Is it because you're
Speaker 2: weird thumbs? Because apparently she got weird thumbs. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she got the what's it called way it to
Speaker 1: hammer hammer thumbs or something.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I saw it in the comments.
Speaker 2: So this ticktom Oh, you know, Melan, you know I
Speaker 2: heard she doesn't eat carbs. Maybe she's a really angry
Speaker 2: girl and like you know, like, oh, I did notice
Speaker 2: that since he'd been dating her, like you know, she
Speaker 2: feels really uptight. She's like draining the energy out of him.
Speaker 2: And la la la l l lah. Right, that's not
Speaker 2: worse enough. No, I start speculating about who he might
Speaker 2: have cheated on her with. Who do they pick the
Speaker 2: closest woman in proximity. His guitarists, it must be her, right,
Speaker 2: because she's just around, because like they couldn't just be
Speaker 2: friends and interacting, must be sleeping together.
Speaker 1: Guys, let's go back to the TMZ days where there
Speaker 1: was one central body that's speculated. Not all you Internet salutes.
Speaker 1: This is too much.
Speaker 2: Let's get one or a band of one hundred really
Speaker 2: inappropriate people who keep pushing sleep. Get them on the job.
Speaker 2: I want to see them come together with some facts,
Speaker 2: not every single person like picking up little granules of
Speaker 2: what they think is evidence that would not hold up
Speaker 2: in the court of Lord. Your vibes, the things that
Speaker 2: you've been intuitively feeling about them as a couple, it's
Speaker 2: not holding up.
Speaker 1: I honestly judge Judy on this case. I will say
Speaker 1: on the tropic of cheating. Something that I heard, perhaps
Speaker 1: from you can't remember, doesn't matter, was that cheating has
Speaker 1: never got anything to do with the person. It's about
Speaker 1: power es the pirell. Oh was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a sixty five year old psychotherapist, but.
Speaker 1: Like, damn well, rip that relationship. Really fun moment. It
Speaker 1: was quite like a ninety throwback Billy Bob short and
Speaker 1: esque energy.
Speaker 2: You're going through a breakup and then you turn the
Speaker 2: radio and so I'm like, well, that was like a
Speaker 2: nineties throwback billy. You're insane.
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