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Speaker 2: Oh this is a good one. We were discussing Paris syndrome,
Speaker 2: which is very location specific issue that predominantly Japanese tourist
Speaker 2: facemen going to Paris and they realized it's not that great.
Speaker 3: And I had that with Malaysia. No shade to Malaysia.
Speaker 3: If I go back, I'm sure i'd love it, love
Speaker 3: Malaysian food. And I talk about an instance where I
Speaker 3: trick or treated my dad on a non Halloween date
Speaker 3: involving Sarte chicken. I don't think I added this to
Speaker 3: the story, but I also included venjamite for it.
Speaker 2: You didn't include that flavor and shade locals only. And
Speaker 2: then for me, introduced us to the frog or rat concept,
Speaker 2: which really shook up the Internet and had people accusing
Speaker 2: for me of being a plagiarizer because I had heard
Speaker 2: of the concept before. Now I'm saying the DM's babe.
Speaker 2: I was like, babes, don't come for me. I don't
Speaker 2: know who you heard that from, but I heard it
Speaker 2: from Fromena. Okay, so she's my.
Speaker 3: Souce I'm pretty sure that I actually I said it
Speaker 3: was from two bro podcasters. I definitely made that clear. Anyway,
Speaker 3: my team's open now if you want to complain, but don't,
Speaker 3: but I won't.
Speaker 1: Wat you're listening to Flex and frooms on.
Speaker 3: Have you been to a wedding recently. I have not.
Speaker 2: The last wedding I went to was my brothers, and
Speaker 2: that was like five years ago. Whoa, and before then
Speaker 2: I was a child at weddings, which is very annoying.
Speaker 2: I definitely was not invited the plus four for my mum.
Speaker 2: She's ICP for one, and the whole family's rocked up.
Speaker 3: Liz, you know that's not good wedding hygiene. But also,
Speaker 3: hell yeah, you guys are little kitty, so bring along.
Speaker 3: My friend sent me this voice note completely out of
Speaker 3: the blue the other day, so I'm just going to play.
Speaker 3: It involves a wedding in Chile. I love that people
Speaker 3: know what I'd.
Speaker 2: Like, literally contact curation off the dome, mate.
Speaker 4: I was at this the other day in San Fanon.
Speaker 4: I heard a story that I thought you'd love. So
Speaker 4: a friend of mine went to this wedding in Chile
Speaker 4: recently and it was a boring, normal Chiant wedding, you know,
Speaker 4: nothing to write about is kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: a bit bored of the whole thing. Anyway, at about eleven,
Speaker 4: the music like almost cuts and the Shrek theme song
Speaker 4: comes on right blasts out of nowhere. A lady dressed
Speaker 4: as Fiona comes out with his big sign above her
Speaker 4: head that says shots and starts handing out shots to everyone.
Speaker 4: And there's a dude in like a Shrek costume like
Speaker 4: coming in handing out like those balloons and make balloon
Speaker 4: animals out of and gives like one hundred of them
Speaker 4: out and everyone goes, it's you.
Speaker 3: Know, crazy.
Speaker 4: Everyone's dancing anyway, and then it's almost like as soon
Speaker 4: as it starts, it stops like an hour later and
Speaker 4: it just goes back to the boring wedding. And my
Speaker 4: friend was just stunned. She was like, what just happened?
Speaker 4: And she's asking for people and people go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's crazy hour. She goes, what's crazyer? And like
Speaker 4: at weddings, it's a thing where they kind of inject
Speaker 4: a bit of fun and just do something insane for
Speaker 4: an hour. It's live and up the party. Genius idea
Speaker 4: and thought you'd absolutely love it a.
Speaker 2: Bit of a performance art, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Literally? And I'm seeing photos and the Shrek is so uncanny.
Speaker 3: It's like a festival.
Speaker 2: Those balloons. Honestly, it's genius. It would make the biggest difference,
Speaker 2: because I don't think the average person could sustain and
Speaker 2: entertaining wedding the whole time. You gotta have budget ebb
Speaker 2: and flow, Like maybe the speeches are a little bit funny,
Speaker 2: and then it gets sentimental for the first dance. But
Speaker 2: if it's funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, we taken the piss.
Speaker 2: We're just gagging there. That is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Would you do it one hundred percent my wedding to
Speaker 3: be a garden wedding? For the ceremony, then go to
Speaker 3: a small space. Always want it to be smaller and
Speaker 3: more cramped and larger, larger, And you look and they're
Speaker 3: all on that dance floor in like a brand new building.
Speaker 3: I'm the right small, intimate crazy music. We're giving eighties music,
Speaker 3: early two thousand's music. David Wedder, Yeah, so that's a vibe.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Look, there's so much I
Speaker 2: can go wrong in a wedding. I feel like most
Speaker 2: weddings are doomed to be terrible because you get people
Speaker 2: who've never planned an event in their life trying to
Speaker 2: plan the one of a century. You don't have, You
Speaker 2: don't have the skills. No shade though, No shade.
Speaker 3: Also, things that you don't budget for are very like
Speaker 3: technical things, not just flowers, but other things. I'm personally
Speaker 3: going to be getting my friend Geordiana Johnson to be
Speaker 3: doing my wedding. She's a producer and director. If you
Speaker 3: want to use it for an event.
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely. I won't be caught spending you know, a
Speaker 2: bag on flowers. So I don't get it. People need
Speaker 2: to be you know what I love. There's this florus
Speaker 2: that does like fruit and vegetable installation displays like real
Speaker 2: spooky that is better to me than a bunch of
Speaker 2: roses that are gonna die in six hours.
Speaker 3: Like super pero.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: If you get it, you get.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, okay, fleck and frooms.
Speaker 2: There is a thing called paras syndrome, which I am
Speaker 2: totally not surprised by. It is what the Internet and
Speaker 2: i'm sure sociologists and anthropologists to refer to as a
Speaker 2: culture shock syndrome. And this one in particular. Paris syndrome
Speaker 2: mostly affects Japanese people, about six million at the time
Speaker 2: of this article travel to travel to Paris sorry annually,
Speaker 2: and when they get there they experience almost like a
Speaker 2: psychological disappointment. It causes symptoms like an acute delusional state, hallucinations, anxiety, dizziness, sweating,
Speaker 2: all of this stuff. And it's because, especially in Asian
Speaker 2: countries or across the world, like Paris is highly romanticized.
Speaker 2: It to be romantic and really pretty and clean and picturesque,
Speaker 2: and the reality is that, like it's a little bit
Speaker 2: gruppy piece a city. It's a city. You know, people
Speaker 2: aren't always going to be rude to you. It's not
Speaker 2: giving Emily in Paris. You're not going to have your
Speaker 2: French fling with the cute chefs, who's going to make
Speaker 2: you cheese. It's not happening. However, the fantasy and the
Speaker 2: reality of that experience is so disorienting that people experience
Speaker 2: physical symptoms. Much like the story I told of And
Speaker 2: I was but a child going to buy a three
Speaker 2: flip prow with my mum, it was sold out. I
Speaker 2: got votigo. So it does happen it does happen to
Speaker 2: the best of us. So here's the thing. They say that,
Speaker 2: combined with exhaustion, language barriers, cultural barriers, homesickness, culture shock
Speaker 2: can cause serious psychological distress. So with that in mind,
Speaker 2: please do your research when you go see other places
Speaker 2: of the world. If you're relying on Gossip Girl, as
Speaker 2: you know, the only information you do before you go
Speaker 2: to New York, you're going to be solely disappointed.
Speaker 3: Well, when I went to Malaysia in two thousand and
Speaker 3: four with my family first overseas holiday, it was the
Speaker 3: biggest culture shock, so much so that I didn't leave
Speaker 3: the hotel room. I stayed in the hotel room, ordering
Speaker 3: Sartae chicken breakfast, lunch.
Speaker 2: And dinner.
Speaker 3: And at one point my mum and dad decided to
Speaker 3: go out. Because I was a very like demanding child,
Speaker 3: I was like, you have to be with me.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So it was kind of giving only child.
Speaker 3: And I got them to stay with me. Anyway, Mom
Speaker 3: and dad go out one night. I am livid, what
Speaker 3: are you doing? You can't leave me here. I'm a
Speaker 3: small child. How old were you eight? Old enough to
Speaker 3: know better? Well, while they were gone, I decided to
Speaker 3: pull a prank, you would what you do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: My dad is a bit of a grub and like
Speaker 3: big fada, big bird, like father, like daughter, genuinely stinky person.
Speaker 3: And so I pulled back their bed sheets, ordered Sartae chicken,
Speaker 3: put a little bit of sarte chicken where his bum
Speaker 3: would be on the mattress. There was a bit of
Speaker 3: edgemite in the room. I grabbed that as well, got
Speaker 3: a little bit out, did a bit of picasso on
Speaker 3: the sheets. So I like it, gently folded the sheets
Speaker 3: back over a tuck doing a hotel talk. Whoa Anyway,
Speaker 3: that night Mom and Dad sawned her home, opened the
Speaker 3: sheets and I'm just hearing a fight. I'm hearing aggressive
Speaker 3: domestic moment. Mummy is going to town on dadd and
Speaker 3: my mum is a little angel. She doesn't get angry quickly.
Speaker 3: And she thought, how dare you shit in our holiday
Speaker 3: marital bed? You are the devil bab You know what
Speaker 3: is the worst bit? He didn't even deny it. He
Speaker 3: thought he shit the bed and then he got upset.
Speaker 3: It was just a horsis mortion.
Speaker 2: It was embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it takes a lot for that man to
Speaker 3: be embarrassed. So Malaysia do they know. I had to
Speaker 3: come out and tell because it started to get really heated.
Speaker 3: You know, we're on holiday. I don't want anyway, but
Speaker 3: the best, best, best bit is on the same troop.
Speaker 3: I pissed the bed. Whoa, and so we came back
Speaker 3: to star the light daughter and the housekeepers had put
Speaker 3: extra sheets in each room flex and frooms Fleisi. The
Speaker 3: other day we were talking about frogs and rats.
Speaker 2: By the other days we're thinking much now.
Speaker 3: That's gone really quickly and essentially these guys on TikTok
Speaker 3: were like, there's two categories of people in the world,
Speaker 3: nothing in between. You either a frog or a rat.
Speaker 2: Aesthetically and also personality wise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon with a lot of aesthetics. It bleeds
Speaker 3: into personality, not in any creep. So someone sent me
Speaker 3: a dim and said, this is frog and rat. These
Speaker 3: may have already been discussed dot, but Dot, if you're
Speaker 3: a rat, are you attracted to frogs? And if you're
Speaker 3: a frogs, are you attracted to rats? Or do rats
Speaker 3: like rats and frogs like frogs? What is a consensus?
Speaker 3: I simply must know or I won't sleep at night.
Speaker 2: We love it interracial dating, but frogs and rats into
Speaker 2: esthetics inter aesthetics. Do a frog's more attracted to rats?
Speaker 2: Are rats more attracted to frogs? Because the studies show
Speaker 2: that people are either attracted to people who look like
Speaker 2: them for procreation reasons or the complete opposite. M Do
Speaker 2: I date frogs or rats? I think that I date rats.
Speaker 2: Before you get to that. Oh sorry, I want to
Speaker 2: tell you about what everyone else thought. No, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to keep going. Go on, man, I don't hear it.
Speaker 2: It told me.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I did the poll. Yes, opposites attract or no?
Speaker 3: Rats on rats on rats? Sixty five percent of people
Speaker 3: said opposites attract thirty five said rats attract rats. As
Speaker 3: we know, flexes a frog, I'm a.
Speaker 2: Rat, yeah, And this is by facial features first, then vibes. Yes,
Speaker 2: but I would say.
Speaker 3: You've got more of a rat vibe and I've got
Speaker 3: more of a frog vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which is why the results were confusing and
Speaker 2: a bit skewed. People like, we get it, she does
Speaker 2: feel like a frog aesthetically, the rounded edges, but the
Speaker 2: teeth say rat. Personality says rat, and I have an
Speaker 2: affinity towards rats, but I have a frog tattoo. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: mixed signals.
Speaker 3: Well, what are you attracted to? You're attracted to fellow frogs.
Speaker 2: I think I attracted to rats like a beady character,
Speaker 2: beady eyes. Yeah. I think I'm trying to picture people
Speaker 2: I find hot, and the only person I can think
Speaker 2: of at the moment is I'm watching True Blood. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of a vampire there, and I think vampire is
Speaker 2: a very righty looking people.
Speaker 3: But the ultimate rats Okay, calm down. As a self
Speaker 3: identifying and also identifying.
Speaker 2: Rat rat by nature and by nurture, I'm.
Speaker 3: A right girl. I want to be attracted to frogs
Speaker 3: for procreation purposes, yeah, because I like the frog aesthetic
Speaker 3: of the face, the wider part eyes, the small nose,
Speaker 3: the like cute little mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And yet, however, my dating history is serving rat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I think I like frogs too, because like, look,
Speaker 2: Drake is a frog and we've spoken about it before.
Speaker 2: People date who they can, not who they want. So
Speaker 2: I think the frog and rat dating theory is ultimately
Speaker 2: skewed because you just have to go with either what
Speaker 2: you've dated in the past, which was was that full
Speaker 2: of your choice? I don't know versus what you would
Speaker 2: do if you had all the options in the world.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: While we let that simmer, I think we need to
Speaker 2: add a few more animals into the category because frog
Speaker 2: and rat the more we speak about them, the more
Speaker 2: they become one thing. We need to de find if
Speaker 2: a frog is a vibe thing, is it an aesthetic thing?
Speaker 2: Is it a rat thing? We definitely need to introduce
Speaker 2: something like a elephant. I think an elephant character is
Speaker 2: far more definitive. I don't know what an elephant either,
Speaker 2: but we can figure it out together.
Speaker 3: Okay, I prefer a hipo say savage panda.
Speaker 2: Stop, we're getting carried away. We're getting carried away.
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