1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth of April. My name is Sam Kazlowski 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and helping me make sense of today's news is Zara Sidelin. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Making news today a review into New South Wales ministerial. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Offices, mass COVID nineteen vaccination hubs, some good news about bees, 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: and a deep dive into gun control twenty five years 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: on from the Port Arthur massacre. Here's today's daily digest. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: A review into New South Wales ministerial offices by former 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Sex Discrimination Commissioner Peru Goward has been described as brutal 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: by New South Wales Premier Gladys Beragiclian. The strongly worded 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: report found quote protections and processes available to ministerial staff 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: are unclear, ineffective and inadequate. Beveragicalian commented on the thirteen 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: recommendations made in the report, saying I am keen to 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: adopt all the recommendations and there will be an opportunity 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: for consultation in the next phase of this process. 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Staying with Premier gladysbary Jiclian, she announced yesterday that a 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: mass COVID nineteen vaccination hub will be opened on May 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: tenth at Sidney Olympic Park. The facility will be the 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: first used to vaccinate frontline healthcare and quarantine workers and 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: their families with other New South Wales residents who do 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: not have a GP able to book. From May twenty fourth, 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: the clinic will have capacity to administer thirty thousand doses 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: of the Pfizer and Astrozenica vaccines within a week. 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Health officials in Fiji are concerned over a COVID nineteen 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: outbreak after the Indian variant was detected there this week. 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: The cluster emerged from a soldier who worked at a 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: quarantine facility who tested positive and transmitted the disease to 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: his wife, who then attended a funeral with five hundred 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: other people. As of Tuesday, Fiji has recorded one hundred 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and nine cases and just two deaths in a population 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: of nine hundred and thirty thousand. Since the pandemic began. 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Lockdowns have been announced to avoid an outbreak. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: We're going pretty niche for how good news today, but 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: the good news is that the B population in the 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: Netherlands has steadied after the implementation of a B friendly 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,559 Speaker 2: strategy that included B hotels B stops at a honey hunt. 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Eleven thousand B lovers from the Netherlands participated in the 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: B counting exercise as part of the fourth edition of 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: the National B Census, which revealed no strong decline in 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the B population. I'm buzzing. The census aims to collect 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: five years worth of B data before drawing definitive conclusions 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: on B population trends. That's a low point for our podcast. 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: We need to achieve a total prohibition on the ownership, possession, 44 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: style and importation of all automatic and semi automatic weapons. 45 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: So that was former Prime Minister John Howard in nineteen 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: ninety six talking about the government's national buyback scheme for 47 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: and that was announced following the Port Arthur massacre, which 48 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: happened twenty five years ago yesterday, and for me it 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: always felt like this mythical thing that had happened in 50 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: the past. I wasn't alive when the Port Arthur massacre happened. 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: And it's very easy day to day now in Australia 52 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: to forget that there was a time where people had 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: guns in this country and there were mass shootings like 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Port Arthur. Sam on the twenty fifth anniversary, what did you. 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Want to talk about. So I quickly wanted to cover 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: off what happened twenty five years ago yesterday, and then 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: take you through the twelve days after the shooting, because 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: it was some of the quickest formation of law in 59 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Australia we've seen in modern times. I think it's important 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: to note as well that some of these laws are 61 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: now being called into question for their effectiveness, and I 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you why that is. So here's the 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: short version of what happened. On the twenty eighth of 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: April nineteen ninety six, thirty five people were killed and 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: twenty three wounded in Port Arthur, Tasmania. The guvernment opened 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: fire on shop owners and tourists with two semi automatic 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: rifles at the Port Arthur Historic Site, which if you. 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Ever get a chance to visit in Tasmania, is really 69 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: really incredible and they have guides there that talk you 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: through the history of Port Arthur pre the massacre and 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: post and it's just an amazing place to visit if 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: you're ever in Tazi. 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: The gunman was later given thirty five life sentences without 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: the possibility of parole, and. 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: We're not going to name him because the media is 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: moving away from actually naming gunmen. It should be about 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: the victims, not about the perpetrators. 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: As you can imagine, this event totally rattled Australia and 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: dominated the news for weeks and months after it. Within 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: the space of twelve days, Australia totally revolutionized their gun laws. 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: Six hundred and forty three thousand firearms were handed in 82 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: at a cost of three hundred and fifty million dollars 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: to the government, and that was funded by a temporary 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: increase in the medicare levy. Basically what Prime Minister John 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: Howard coordinated with all states and territories at the time, 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: which is particularly interesting because Tasmania self and Queensland were 87 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: very opposed to any sort of gun regulation. He restricted 88 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: the legal ownership and use of self loading rifles, shotguns 89 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and titaned controls on their legal use by recreational shooters. 90 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Then he implemented something called the buyback and that's the 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: six hundred and forty three thousand figure I told you 92 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: about before. He basically said to all Australian gun owners, 93 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: we will purchase the guns back off you to get 94 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: them off the streets. And it really worked. 95 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: I remember when I went on exchange to DC a 96 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and there were two things that 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: Americans would always raise with me. One did I catch 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: a kangaroo to school? And two? How did you exist 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: in a society without guns? And I think it's always 100 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: really important when we're talking about gun control in Australia 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: to ask why we can't see the same gun control 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: happen in America, where there are mass shootings almost daily, 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: And that just goes to the fundamental fact that guns 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 2: are quite literally enshrined in the US Constitution. The Second 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: Amendment of the Bill of Rights protects the right to 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: keep and bear arms. So it's not as easy as 107 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: John Howard's spyback scheme was. Though that wasn't easy and 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: as revolutionary as it was. But this would take deep 109 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: constitutional change that America just seemingly can't get pass. And 110 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: they also have a really strong gun lobby. That's not 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: to say, though, that we didn't have strong opposition here 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: in Australia too. 113 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: As a bit of a. 114 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: Side note, when Scott Morrison didn't come out to meet 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: protesters after the Brittney Higgins sexual assault allegations came out, 116 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: many commentators compared it to when John Howard came out 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 2: to face a whole lot of really angry gun owners 118 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: when this policy was announced, and many pointed to the 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: former Liberal Prime minister as an example of just leadership 120 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: in the face of opposition, and so even those in 121 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party were making those comparisons. All right, Sam, 122 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: So if we take a step back, where are we 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: at now? How is gun ownership looking in this country? 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: So the rate of gun ownership at the moment is 125 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: about three point four to one guns per hundred. To 126 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: put that into a bit of context for you, in America, 127 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: it's one hundred and twenty zero point five guns per hundred. 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: That is insane. 129 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, But despite this remarkably low figure for the implementation 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: of a program twenty five years ago, the fact that 131 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: it's still kept low is amazing. There are still some 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: criticisms around the way that gun registration is coordinated in Australia. 133 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: The key criticism at the moment is about the failure 134 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: of a national registration system to get up. So at 135 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the moment, gun registration is very similar to how we 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: register our cars. We register with our state authorities and 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: there's a record of who owns the gun and where 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: they bought it. The problem that authorities are finding is 139 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: that when guns travel into state, they lose track of 140 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: the weapons, and there's a pattern in organized crime of 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: guns being relocated state to state. Many advocacy groups have 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: put forward this proposal for a national firearms Register. However, 143 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: the issue that government author alorities are facing at the 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: moment is largely tech based and it's about the transferral 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: of information across state lines. It's a bit complicated, but 146 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: they've now required all state and federal crime authorities to 147 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: transfer to another database called the Australian Firearms Information Network. 148 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: The bottom line amongst all of this information is that 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: there's not really one centralized place for authorities to go 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: with the National Gun Register, and many are calling for 151 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: its existence. 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Either way you look at it. 153 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: We're extremely extremely. 154 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: Lucky to live where we live, and twenty five years on, 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: we live in a very different Australia. 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