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Speaker 1: This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, and it's

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Speaker 1: Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: So if we go a little bit deeper on identity work,

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Speaker 2: because this is just super interesting to me, and you

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Speaker 2: really do have to kind of part with a version

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Speaker 2: you grew up chasing. You had this very clear trajectory

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Speaker 2: and then when you make a separate decision, it's kind

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Speaker 1: So basically, the way that I would describe it is

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Speaker 1: simple as writing affirmations journaling. Journaling is going to be

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Speaker 1: you really get a lot of the glory. Oh you

435
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Speaker 1: do it all by yourself. Oh you scaled this a

436
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Speaker 1: bag of honor, badge of honor, Like and I think moms,

437
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: especially working moms, we do a little bit addicted, Like

438
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: every time I go on a podcast or talk to

439
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: them and they're like, oh my god, how do you

440
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: do it? You do so much it's addictive, Like it

441
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: feels good to me and I can on it, like

442
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: I'm happy to say that. I'm happy to be honest

443
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: about that. So it's like letting go of that struggle.

444
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: It's like letting go that I have to climb the

445
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: ladder that I have to do it all, that I

446
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 1: have to be the pusher and the driver, and that

447
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: really goes against what society has told you about having

448
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: a successful business, about being successful in life. So it's

449
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: all those conditionings and identities that I have to step

450
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: out of.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's amazing.

452
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Speaker 1: Even if you think about it for me to be like, oh,

453
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: I can take six months off and my business, you know,

454
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: can just run by itself. Like that's very much like oh,

455
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: what do you even do in your business? You know?

456
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: And mean like this is awesome. No, it's amazing. Like

457
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: obviously it never starts that way.

458
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: You have to no scale it and build it to

459
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Speaker 2: a point where you can make that but not being

460
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: that one key person risk is so important, so you

461
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: can actually about what this conversation is reminding me of

462
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: is a question I kind of think about all the time,

463
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: and can women have it all? It's something a lot

464
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: of us think and maybe think we can't, maybe think

465
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: we can. But I think the whole point of that

466
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: question and the starting point is you have to define

467
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: what having it all means to you. Yes, right, So

468
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: when you talk about staying in your own lane, when

469
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: you talk about not leaning into what society tells.

470
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Speaker 3: You your success, what does that actually mean to you?

471
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Speaker 2: And then you start shaping your reality around that because

472
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you felt that way, But when

473
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Speaker 2: I was at law school and thinking about moving up

474
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Speaker 2: in the ranks and I was seeing my partner in

475
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Speaker 2: a corner office and thinking is that going to be

476
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Speaker 2: my life? That wasn't having it all to me? You know,

477
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: she was amazing at her job, but she never saw

478
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Speaker 2: her kids, and I knew that wasn't what I wanted.

479
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Speaker 2: So that's when the spark started going off in my head, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I've been told that this is a great career to have,

481
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Speaker 2: and you know a lot of people think I'm so

482
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: amazing for being a lawyer, but it's not.

483
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Speaker 3: Actually the reality of it is not to me having

484
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Speaker 3: it all, and it's not the life I want.

485
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Speaker 1: the episode.

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Speaker 2: What role does manifesting play in the identity shift?

509
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Speaker 3: Is it kind of separate? Is it parallel? Is it

510
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Speaker 3: in como?

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, in the work that I teach, the work

512
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: that I do, it honestly just feels like it's just

513
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: meshed together. Like manifesting just feels like second nature for me.

514
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: But how it would integrate is first of all, I

515
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Speaker 1: love what you said is a very simple manifesting formula

516
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: that is also identity work. Is you know, let's just

517
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: say to have it all. So it's like, like you said,

518
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: the first step is what like getting clear on what

519
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: that means for you. And that's why you know, manifesting

520
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: vision boards, it's very important to be like, well, what

521
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: do you care about and what do you want? And

522
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: but here's the thing that most people stumble on when

523
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: they're manifesting is you know, they put the range rover

524
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: on the vision board because that's what their best friend did,

525
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: or that's what they see on Instagram, do you, I mean,

526
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: they're not actually getting to this beautiful core, authentic self

527
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: place and creating goals. I actually just created a course

528
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: called Your Magnetic Blueprint where I go through this and

529
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: it's only a two week course. It's a very short

530
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Speaker 1: New Year's sort of vibe course, and I spend the

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Speaker 1: first week really teaching people who is their authentic self

532
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: and what are their authentic desires not coming from? Yeah,

533
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: what does your algorithm say? What does your best friend say,

534
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: your mom, your sister, your partner, TV, all those sorts

535
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: of things, Because that's where I feel like we get

536
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: unhappy and we get depressed and we get sad and

537
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: all those things. It's because you're wanting what you think

538
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you should, but it's not actually what you desire from

539
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: an authentic place. So and yes, and that course the

540
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Speaker 1: first week is literally on like who are you authentically

541
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Speaker 1: and what are your authentic desires? And then the second

542
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Speaker 1: week is we create goals from that place. So it's

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Speaker 1: about getting clear on like what does having it all

544
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Speaker 1: mean to you? Because if you don't care about having,

545
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, a sport car or an expensive car, that's

546
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: literally just repayments that you could put to maybe your

547
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: big thing is you love horse riding?

548
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

549
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Speaker 1: Like holidays or like you're an experienced person, those sorts

550
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Speaker 1: of things. So getting clear is the first step, and

551
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Speaker 1: then the second step comes in the identity work of

552
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Speaker 1: well that person, Now you're clear on what it means

553
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Speaker 1: to having it all for you that person, like who

554
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Speaker 1: are they? What are their beliefs, what are their routines,

555
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: what are their desires? All that sort of thing. So

556
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Speaker 1: for me with the you know, the mom who's having

557
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Speaker 1: six months off with her newborn, one of those you know,

558
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: identity pieces would be I trust my team completely. If

559
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Speaker 1: something doesn't go exactly to plan, I'm not worried. I

560
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: don't have to know the finer details. I trust they're

561
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Speaker 1: done by the team. Like that's the idea.

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Speaker 3: Do you see that? The vibe not seeing it? Do

563
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Speaker 3: you listen? I hear it? Do you hear that?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, that's really like the second part.

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Speaker 1: And then let's say the third part is where the

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Speaker 1: real manifestation piece comes in. And this is you holding

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Speaker 1: the vision even when your reality shows you the opposite

568
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Speaker 1: or something different. And again this is where people full

569
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Speaker 1: off they can't do it because you know they're manifesting.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's my example of this beautiful feminine motherhood

571
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Speaker 1: season and then my whole team quits, so that that

572
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Speaker 1: would feel like, you know, a knife to the heart,

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Speaker 1: Like it would be like, oh my god, what am

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Speaker 1: I going to do? But it's in those moments where

575
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Speaker 1: you have to hold the vision and be like, well,

576
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Speaker 1: obviously that team was not going to execute on that,

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Speaker 1: So I have to trust and I have to get

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Speaker 1: into you know what I mean, Like it's or even

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, like manifestation is believing it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen until the eleventh hour. It's like still trusting.

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Speaker 1: Like we just finished our Abundance Academy, which is our

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Speaker 1: money mindset cause. And I was talking to a girl

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Speaker 1: that a retreat we did, and she was saying, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: like I found it so difficult. I was manifesting sixteen

585
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars to pay off my debt and it was

586
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Speaker 1: the end of the thirty days and I hadn't know,

587
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: like I hadn't paid off the day. If anything, I

588
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: was more in debt, and I was like, what the

589
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, what the fuck? And then she's like, bit,

590
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I held the vision, I kept doing the formula, I

591
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: kept doing the work. And then she said, literally the

592
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Speaker 1: day after I finished the Abundance Academy, so wild, I

593
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: had a bonus come in from a previous work that

594
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: like never got paid to me.

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Speaker 3: I love this stuff.

596
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: And it was like and she's like, guess how much

597
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: it was? And she's like sixteen thousand, three hundred and

598
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, like the exact number. And I was like, obviously,

599
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Speaker 1: that's like such a crazy story. And even me, who I,

600
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, manifest every single day and I'm like, really

601
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: like it happened, but it works, it works. But that

602
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: is like the definition of the last step is like

603
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Speaker 1: you need to hold the vision and embody because for example,

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Speaker 1: me wanting that beautiful Newborn season, if I go into oh,

605
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: I've never kind of had the Newborn season, you know

606
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: why is happening to me? No one wants to work

607
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: with me, No one likes my company. That is not

608
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Speaker 1: holding the vision or embodying that person. The person who

609
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: has that goes this is perfect. That team couldn't execute.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the difference? And that's what I truly believe,

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Speaker 1: Like how manifestation comes in with the identity whack.

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Speaker 2: Arguably, this is like the hardest part, right, especially when

613
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: you're at the beginning and you're making that shift, you're

614
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Speaker 2: taking that quantum leap, but you haven't really started seeing

615
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: things happen. What do you think are the major things

616
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: that block people having that faith?

617
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Speaker 3: Is it?

618
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Like?

619
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

620
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Speaker 2: I feel sometimes I can be impatient even though everything

621
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: has its own time, and always in hindsight you're like, God,

622
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: it happened the way it was supposed to. Yes, what

623
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: are the main things that block people holding that space

624
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: and holding that vision?

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I'd say is like just constantly

626
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Speaker 1: comes up in my courses in my community is and

627
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: again I find, you know, the amazing community who listens

628
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: to podas podcasts like yours online is they are go getters.

629
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Speaker 1: You know, they are high functioning, they go getters. Yes,

630
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: they want it yesterday, and they often can be a

631
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a control freak, which we need to

632
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: be these amazing determined people. And so I find the

633
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: biggest block is people going but I don't know how

634
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: so they or it's not coming in how I thought

635
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: it's the how it's this Howard I hear all the time.

636
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, the hell doesn't matter. And that's even like

637
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: when you're creating, you're actually in the magnetic blueprint the

638
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: New York course I was talking about before I get

639
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: them to do this thing where I'm like, Okay, what's

640
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: three milestones of how this goal could come in? And

641
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: I get them to fully like write them out, and

642
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: then I'm like, but the how doesn't matter.

643
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: They're like, what, wipe them out?

644
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Forget you right, actually throw it in the bin. But

645
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: what we need to do as humans is often it

646
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: makes us feel better to be like, oh, well it

647
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: could come in this way. You know, it could come

648
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: in through my boss, it could come in through my partner,

649
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And that's fine if it helps you

650
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Speaker 1: stay on the vision. But in the end, the how

651
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: doesn't actually matter. So if we're in a position where

652
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: we're like, but I don't know how this could ever happen,

653
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: that's the block because I'm like, but the how is

654
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: not up to you. And something that I say that

655
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: really helps me in these moments is it's going to

656
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: be better than I could have imagined. Like if you

657
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: told me when I was twenty one doing my law degree.

658
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: You're going to start this business. It's going to be

659
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: an eight figure business, and then you're going to start

660
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: this side hustle that turns into a seven figure business.

661
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: And it's literally you talking on a podcast about the

662
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: things you love and then you know you have the

663
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: dream family and the dream house and the dream car

664
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. My brain wouldn't even been able

665
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: to understand how I got there, or like the steps,

666
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: or even probably the vision. Yeah, And so that that's

667
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: why I'm like, you're gonna mess up if you try

668
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, but it happens this way. And

669
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: even a really funny story is our manufacture for naked Harvest.

670
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: How we found them was my brother's friend did a

671
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: roofing job for him and was like, oh, my friends

672
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: are starting this supplement business blah blah blah, and they're

673
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: an amazing manufacturer. Incredible. That's how we found them.

674
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: You can never plan this.

675
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: You can't plan then you can't make this up. And

676
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, you need to let go of

677
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: the how. It's going to be your biggest block.

678
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one. I think a lot of

679
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: people resonate myself included. It's that it's because we're type A. Yeah,

680
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: it needs to know the formula I need to know.

681
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: It's like that quality of us makes us so successful

682
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: and driven and motivated, but it's like you just need

683
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: to turn it off sometimes and learning that's actually been

684
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: quite difficult for me. I found, like I get really

685
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: frustrated with impatience sometimes totally. But that's something I'm like

686
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: really working on and trying to surrender.

687
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: To a little more. Before you said, you know, when you.

688
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Get people to start thinking about their identity, you start

689
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: working out what's true and authentic for them and what's not.

690
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: Just for people listening, you know, they might have some

691
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: things on their vision board or some things that they

692
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: think they want. How do you actually separate because after

693
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: so long and so many layers of voices over the

694
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: years and what people tell you, how do you actually

695
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: separate what you want versus what someone else told you

696
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: you want.

697
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Speaker 1: So a really quick way that you can do it is,

698
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: first of all, anytime you do this work, you do

699
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: want it to be in a cented, grounded space. So

700
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: I always recommend, you know, getting into nature, doing a meditation,

701
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: just having some space. Don't try and do this work

702
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: if you're like I got fifteen minutes my calendar and

703
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: you're at work and it's all crazy and you know, chaotic.

704
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: So first of all, like I feel like that's self explanatory,

705
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: but get yourself into a space where you can be

706
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: grounded and scentered and you can be connected to your body.

707
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: So my body connection and in like that's what intuition is,

708
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: and so that is huge. So that would be the

709
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: first thing is just get connected, get quiet. If you

710
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: don't meditate, like five minutes a day, guys, honestly life

711
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: changing anyway, I digress. So what I would say is

712
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: tune into yourself being that grounded state first. And if

713
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: this like let's say we're talking about desires that we want,

714
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: if this desire comes from a place of fear or

715
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: a place of proving yourself or a place of if

716
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't have it now, I need to have it now,

717
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: like that chaotic energy, desperate energy, anytime that desire like, oh,

718
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: but so and so got this brand new car, like

719
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: I need it, blah blah blah's husband brought her this

720
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I need a new grain. Yet comparison, if it's because

721
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: you're you think your parents, like it will please your parents,

722
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: your partner.

723
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Your kids.

724
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: If it's coming from that place, you know it's not

725
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: an authentic desire, and it's okay to have them. But

726
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: it's also just being very honest about it, like this

727
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: is probably coming from an ego, a materialistic all those

728
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: sorts of things placed, and it's okay to have those desires,

729
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Like I am very you know, they might call me

730
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: a materialistic. I love the car, the jury, like all

731
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: those sorts of things, but they are not my authentic desires.

732
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: That's not something I'm going and working for. It's a

733
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: by product. And so how you know you're going through

734
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: an authentic desire is it feels calm, It feels grounded.

735
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: It feels like, wow, this will be this will be

736
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: growth for me. Like when I think of me going

737
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: through this newborn phase in this very feminine energy, I'm like, wow,

738
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: that's going to be a challenge, and it feels like

739
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: growth for my character, for Georgie as a person, for

740
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: her evolution.

741
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

742
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like I'm doing it. Obviously it benefits Tim,

743
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: my husband, and the new baby, but it's not like

744
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this so Instagram can think I'm

745
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: feminine or a trad wi you know what I mean,

746
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Like it's not coming from that place, and it feels

747
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: so centered and grounded and like, wow, this is going

748
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to be huge for my family, It's going to be

749
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: huge for me, and I'm really excited to it. I'm

750
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a little bit scared, but I'm excited. Do you see

751
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: the difference? And I truly believe when you tune into

752
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: your body, you will feel it. And if it's coming

753
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: from that chaotic atty pushing I need to do this,

754
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: I need to achieve blah blah blah, it's not it. Yeah,

755
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: but that centered, that grounded it can still feel like

756
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: I said, a little bit like anxious of a little

757
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: bit like oh it's a bit scary, it's a bit crazy.

758
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: But as long as it's still from that grounded state,

759
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's an authentic desire.

760
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of sounds like you've got to unmask

761
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: the intention or the why behind you're striving towards.

762
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: You could even I love this. Like a practical thing

763
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: to do is like do like you keep asking why

764
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: five times? Yes, keep asking why, and you get to

765
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: like the real question and sometimes you're like, shit.

766
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a really good on the Someone was

767
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: on the show once and they said the five times

768
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: why but you can sometimes keep going so given like

769
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: sometimes we probably could be desiring things inauthentically. I'm curious

770
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: to know, have you ever manifested something that, with hindsight,

771
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: you probably didn't want absolutely honestly? What was like got

772
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: a bit of a list, the worst one or the

773
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: top one.

774
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't say it's the worst one, because I

775
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: truly believe everything happens for a reason and if it's

776
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: not a manifestation you actually want, it's a lesson and

777
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: like we need to figure it out, don't we. God,

778
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: we can't be perfect. And so a great one was

779
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: when I was like, you know, in just focusing on

780
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: being an influencer and working with brands and that was

781
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of my only job. I remember being like I

782
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: worked with great brands and you know they're incredible, but

783
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: I remember being like, oh, I want to work for

784
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: like luxury brands, like want someone to reach out to

785
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: me and it's like a luxury brand, And I wanted

786
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: to be like exciting and like because you know, you'd

787
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: see people and they're like working for like Lewis, Voton

788
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: and like those sorts of places, and I was like, oh,

789
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: that would be cool, and so I remember I put

790
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: that on my vision board and then I started working.

791
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: I got contacted by a luxury brand and it was

792
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: a luxury brand that I actually bought you. So I

793
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, this is perfect and like paid

794
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: my full rates. Like I was like, wow, this is

795
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: ten out of ten.

796
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: Worked with them.

797
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: It was the most horrible experience. They were so particular.

798
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: They made me reshoot content three times for very minor things.

799
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: In my caption. One of them I posted and I

800
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: spelt one word wrong, which is like, if you know

801
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: me as a person, I'm the worst spella. And they

802
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: wanted me to repost the whole thing otherwise they weren't

803
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: going to pay me, and it had already been up

804
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: for like days, and like just this situation where I

805
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: was like, this was not what I thought it would be,

806
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: and this really came from an ego place, and it

807
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: was such a great moment because I was like, Wow, Okay,

808
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: this is cool. And a lot of people, like a

809
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: lot of people in my community will say the same.

810
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: Let's say they wanted to manifest, you know, their dream

811
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: car range Rover. Let's say they're on the Goldcos everywhere,

812
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: and you know they get the range Rover, but it

813
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: comes with these huge repayments and it actually puts them

814
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: further in debt or it like totally messes up their lifestyle.

815
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: And then they realize like, no, I actually don't want this.

816
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: This is not this doesn't actually you know, feel good.

817
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: This doesn't actually come from a great place. It doesn't

818
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: come from overflow.

819
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I say.

820
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: It's like I love material things and I'm very aesthetic,

821
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: but it's like those things come from like this overflow,

822
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: never putting me in a position where I'm like, oh

823
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: my god, what have I done?

824
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: Like I step back?

825
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: I step back. Yeah. So, like I would say, that

826
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: was probably my best example. And I obviously can't tell

827
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: you who the luxury.

828
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: That's fine, we won't. We don't need the tea on that.

829
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you you're.

830
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: Just so right.

831
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Like jobs, relationships, like things that don't work, they're as valuables.

832
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: They teach you what you don't want as much as

833
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: what you do want.

834
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: Very quick, very quick. An example, sorry, just I thought

835
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: of it is also went through this weird stage so

836
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: my husband is a stay at home dad, and before

837
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: that he worked in the businesses, and before that he

838
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: was a carpenter. And I remember it's our very first date.

839
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to be a lawyer, so if

840
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: you want kids, you have to stay at home with them,

841
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: Like I said that from very first date. So he

842
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: and he was like, that's perfect, That's what I want

843
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: to do. And I remember I went through this space

844
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: where I was like, do I want a husband who

845
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: can like provide for me and pay for this laviaged

846
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: lifestyle like you know, like very TikTok esque where it's

847
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: like your man's going to buy you everything? And I

848
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: had that thought and then I remember I was talking

849
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: to my therapist about it and they're like, yeah, Georgia,

850
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: but it would come with you would probably have to

851
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: support them in their career. You would have to like

852
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: and like it comes like think about what it would

853
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: actually mean. So yeah, I think a lot of things

854
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: get romanticized and we're like, oh, but imagine if I

855
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: just came home and blah blah blah and you know whatnot,

856
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: but we're not actually thinking about it. And for someone

857
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: who is so career driven and passion driven like that

858
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: has always been one of my highest values, so for me,

859
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: that wouldn't work. Yeah, So it's like even thinking about

860
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: it that way and be like, Okay, do I just

861
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: want this because I've seen it on TikTok.

862
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: It's been so lovely chatting to you, getting to a

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Speaker 2: little bit more about your story. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for sharing your expertise and just your thoughts on your mindset.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, it's when you're trying to expand listening

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Speaker 2: to people's mindset people like you is so inspiring. So

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for teaching us today and for holding.

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Speaker 3: Space with me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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