1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Right on Gold. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Hello there, it's Jonesy Demanda driving you home for jam Nation. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Louis Theroux's Manisphere. I watched it over the weekend. There's 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: been some criticism that Louis didn't go deeply enough, but 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: I think he did really well. That's what he always 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: does when he does a documentary. He just gives them 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: film and that was it. So he's been what the 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: is It's all these all these Jim Bros, tech bros, 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: crypto bros. They've got big watches, they've got lambeaus, they've 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: got girls with gring. 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: Bikinis, misogynists, they're often race world less. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, you know, don't be a simp, 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: don't listen to what. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Women tell you'd be your own man. 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: And but invariably it's all just a pyramid scheme and 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: so they can make more money. 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: What are they selling. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Oh, they're selling just you know, their lives. 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Row powders, yeah, supplements, crypto, all the stuff that you know. 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: And there's a degree of irresponsibly irresponsible broadcasting from their 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: point of view. Because they're on social media, they can 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: say whatever they want. I can't say whatever I want 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: because if I do there's a whole thing like defamation laws. 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of stuff that we'll get you 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: in trouble. 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: Of course, their trading and all that. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like, oh, you know, he tells it 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: like it is or whatever. 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: That's true to a degree, but you can give a 30 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: lot of misinformation in the rogan world that we live in. 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of people saying, oh, you know 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: what about the COVID thing. You know, how do you 33 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: feel about the COVID thing? Just you know, people like 34 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: Carl Sandlan's and Carl Stefanoviak suddenly saying, oh, you know what, 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: perhaps we went too far. You know, I kind of 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: agree with those guys. But at the time when that 37 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: stuff was coming, we had no idea what a pandemic 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: was going to be. So you just sort of go 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: along with the experts to tell you, well, you've got 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: to do that. It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. 41 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: And most of those people on social media that make comments, 42 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: they don't have the pills to stand up and make 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: the bold decisions. 44 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: I saw, you know, the comedian Jimmy Carr, someone asked 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: him on one of his stand up shows. They said, 46 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: what do you make of manisphere? And he said, I 47 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: don't like what the young men are talking about, but 48 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: I think it's important we listen to young men. And 49 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure that's very true. I saw a woman saying 50 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 4: that when she used to work in the bank, that 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: she they used to learn how to handle counterfeit notes, 52 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: not by looking at the counterfeit, but by handling real money, 53 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 4: so that when you had a counterfeit note, you knew 54 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: instantly what it was. She said, to change this discourse, 55 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: to change the manisphere, men being the main talkers to 56 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: young men, we need to flood the zone with good men, 57 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: and the majority of men are great men. Flood the 58 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: zone with great men so you can pick out a 59 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: counterfeit when you see it. 60 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Louis Threu he really put himself out there. 61 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: So he caught up with. 62 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: Hs Tikiitoki, which is someone's name that's Harrison Sullivan. So 63 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: he's an influencer who has three hundred thousand followers thereabout. 64 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Apparently he's a millionaire multi millionaire depending on different people 65 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: are saying he's gotten break. There's all this other stuff, 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: but there's a nice bit when Louis first meets up 67 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: with HS Tikiitoki boy. 68 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 5: I saw in the filming a Jim worker very nice. 69 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: I like to start I normally train a little bit 70 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 5: earlier in the day. I like to start my day 71 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 5: off working out. We're talking to what do I not 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 5: talk to that? 73 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: We're not on social media? 74 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Now? 75 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 5: This is this is this is TV, this is the 76 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 5: this is the level up from that. Sorry, I forgot that. 77 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 5: I'm used to my mere social media life. 78 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: We just pretend those aren't there. 79 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, fair enough? 80 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: And is he talking straight into the camp filming on 81 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: his phone? 82 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: Who's doing a presentation? And that's the thing about social 83 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: media and saying this to young people. It's all all 84 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: the stuff that they put it. 85 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: They don't know anything. But they don't know. 86 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: They're just trying to sell your product, whether it be 87 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: a protein powder, they do a collab with some people 88 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: that are selling weights or whatever. 89 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: They just want to push that stuff onto you. Pretty much. 90 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: We do the same thing with the advertising and things 91 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: on our radio show, which could make me sound like 92 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: a bit of a hypocrite, But I wouldn't put out 93 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: false information like everything that I know I know, do 94 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? These guys have no idea. 95 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: This guy had no idea who Louis threw was if 96 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: he did, and he's got no excuse thees Google there 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: he could type in Louis through and he started to 98 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: get a bit worried, so he started becoming defensive on 99 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: his Instagram page. Think that Louis was going to do 100 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: a hatchet job on him. But the only person who 101 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: a hatchet job was HS. Ticky Doggy had a job 102 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: on himself. Particularly this bit was his mom. At the 103 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: end of the documentary, his mom's quite nice, says, you've 104 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: got to eat something. 105 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: But I don't want to. I need ginger for my throat. 106 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 6: And Roses is the only place that's got ginger. It's 107 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 6: just Juice Far that you got the thing he's from Juice. No, 108 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 6: you don't have to have the truth. 109 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 5: I don't want to Juice Far alright. 110 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 6: Don't embarrass me, all right, don't be rude. That's not 111 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 6: the way I've brought you up. I do not be rude, 112 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: all right, because it's a reflection on me. 113 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: He called her mummy. 114 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of sweet and when you watch it, 115 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: but I think, but. 116 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: There's a dangerous message of a very christmasogynistic, say nothing 117 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: very racist. 118 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: But it's a silo as well. You know, for me, 119 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't affect me. I know what these guys, you're 120 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: not a young man. I'm not bashing my face with 121 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: a hammer. 122 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: No, that's what they're doing so that their jaws grow different. 123 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. You know. 124 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Back in my day we had man O Man. Maybe 125 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: they should have man O Mansphere. 126 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: Man sphere and all the two heads get pushed into 127 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: the pool pool. 128 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: It's worth watching it at any rate. Check it out 129 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: Louis Thrux's manisphere