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Speaker 1: This is gam Nation with joneslanda next.

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Speaker 2: Guess is one of the country's most lovable gardening gurus.

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Speaker 2: For a decade, he's been hosting Gardening Australia. He of

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Speaker 2: course is my nemesis because it's up against the living

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Speaker 2: room and at the logis we pull each other's beards

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Speaker 2: and fight to the death. But we do love him

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Speaker 2: and he's here today to encourage us all to get

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Speaker 2: into the backyard with the kids. Costa Georgiardi's hello.

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Speaker 1: Amanda Keller. Lovely to hear your voice. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well.

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Speaker 3: I'm here as well, mate. He gets a little jealous.

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Speaker 1: I was getting we're getting there.

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Speaker 3: It sounded like you were just going to do the

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Speaker 3: gloss over.

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Speaker 2: Well, I told him to Costa, I'm still eating your

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Speaker 2: honey and that's not a euphemism. You've given me some

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Speaker 2: of the honey from your native bees in your backyard,

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Speaker 2: and I have my own native bees in my backyard

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. I mean, you know, it ties in

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Speaker 1: perfectly with bi Diversity months, which we're heading into, and

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Speaker 1: you know those little details having those native bees they

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Speaker 1: help with pollination that they connect with the native plants

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Speaker 1: in your area. They do the best job of pollinating them,

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Speaker 1: and then once they grow and are successful, that creates habitat.

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Speaker 1: The habitat then brings other insects. Then the birds come

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Speaker 1: to eat and predate on those insects, and you start

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Speaker 1: to build an ecosystem. And I suppose this month and

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Speaker 1: this project is all about getting children outside and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: you get out there with Mum and dad or grandma

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Speaker 1: or grandpa or your aunt or uncle and become aware

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Speaker 1: of these things. Have a little take photos.

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Speaker 2: The things with the native bees is that they're stingless,

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Speaker 2: so you can have them close up to your house

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and here I'm up at a school up up

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Speaker 1: in Lindfield, a little primary school for East Lyndfield up here,

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Speaker 1: and they've got native bee. Native bees right in the

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Speaker 1: middle of their chicken pen, which is next to their

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Speaker 1: chickens roam around their little orchard where they've got their

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Speaker 1: fruit trees, and they're next to that they're growing their vegetables.

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Speaker 1: So you can start to see in a in a

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Speaker 1: school garden all of these principles around biodiversity playing out

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Speaker 1: in the children's playground. That's really wonderful. When I was a.

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Speaker 3: Kid back in the seventies, you just spend all your

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Speaker 3: time in the backyard. All you had was a little

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Speaker 3: concrete striped to ride, you escape a little bit of grass,

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Speaker 3: and your dad would burn off like you burn off.

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Speaker 2: Everyone had a home incinerator, direct concinerator.

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Speaker 3: How good was that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a different world, wasn't it. Like some

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Speaker 1: days there was just smoke blowing around the pole. Burn them,

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Speaker 1: burn the long clip things in the gutter.

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Speaker 3: That's what dad used to do, and he'd rake it

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Speaker 3: all together and it just burn in this and it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be a fire, it'd just be this smoky thing.

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Speaker 3: And then when he wasn't looking, we ride our push

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Speaker 3: bikes through it.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine you being the ultimate menace, not.

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Speaker 3: A mens That was part of that was part of life.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was about. And you know, the good

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Speaker 1: thing with the students here and with this sort of

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Speaker 1: an awareness program is you know that those grass clip

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Speaker 1: things they don't get burnt now, they got compost into you.

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Speaker 1: They understand what composting means to building soil. But then

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Speaker 1: the soil being built with organic matter then creates a

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Speaker 1: sponge which holds the water, and then if that holds

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Speaker 1: the water, then the plants and seeds will germinate, the

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Speaker 1: plants will grow, and then you tie it back into

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Speaker 1: everything we're talking about here. So you know, it's really

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Speaker 1: it's nice to see this narrative around biodiversity. Get a

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Speaker 1: simple task around it, like go out and take photo,

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Speaker 1: get your macro lens out in terms of your goggles,

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Speaker 1: put your nature goggles on and take pictures. And when

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Speaker 1: you look up close, then you become personal with it.

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Speaker 1: And if they become personal with it, then they'll want

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Speaker 1: to protect it.

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Speaker 2: It's a big knock on effect. As an itomic. Guel

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Speaker 2: Maestro talks about this too, that if kids are growing

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Speaker 2: their food, seeing where the food comes from, learning to

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Speaker 2: cook some of their food, it helps them in their

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Speaker 2: and food awareness creates.

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Speaker 1: This is the society, yeah, because you know we've talked

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Speaker 1: by diversity, as you said, amount of you talk food

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Speaker 1: production and what the children are growing or what they're

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Speaker 1: growing at home or here at school, and then you

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Speaker 1: can start to fold in first nations perspectives and bushtucker

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Speaker 1: and understanding local native species and what they've been providing

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Speaker 1: to this landscape for thousands of years. And then of

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Speaker 1: course there's waste and waste, dealing with waste and waste

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Speaker 1: management through composting and creating that humors to then you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a worm farm or a compost in. The

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Speaker 1: humous is the engineer, and the soil is that place

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Speaker 1: where it all begins through water and air and fertility.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's nice to So whether you get them

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Speaker 1: through the food angle, whether you get them through the

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Speaker 1: science and spiders and entomology, or whether you bring them

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Speaker 1: in through indigenous bush tucker storytelling, or whether you bring

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Speaker 1: them in through the waste. There's so many ways we

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Speaker 1: can engage children with nature, and then the more they're engaged,

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Speaker 1: then they can love it and protect it.

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Speaker 2: Get a better birds and bees talk than our parents.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's for sure, we're enjoying. I'm going to get

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Speaker 3: the nature goggles on and the nature swimming costume on

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Speaker 3: if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jonesy that that's what we want to see, and

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Speaker 1: they from the school they want.

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Speaker 3: To active ad off, I won't be walking around that

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Speaker 3: school and my nature that's right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a bit more than than the nature of

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Speaker 1: budget smugglers.

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Speaker 3: Cost It's always great to talk to you Junior land

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Speaker 3: Care dot org dot au make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 3: Costa Georgie Artists, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure James he lovely to chat.

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Speaker 3: Amanda, nice to talk to your Costu