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Speaker 1: Jumb mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: We've been told when we get to seventy percent double vaxed,

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Speaker 2: we will be opening up coming out of this long lockdown.

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Speaker 2: I know that there's some dispute from medical people saying

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Speaker 2: that's not enough. This is a political decision, But things

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Speaker 2: have to happen at some point, don't they to get

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Speaker 2: to that seventy percent. Many of us in our lives

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Speaker 2: may know people who are what did you call them?

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Speaker 2: What was your expression?

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Speaker 1: Vaccadaisical. It's like laxidas vaccadaesical. So I don't really know

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Speaker 1: any eighty vaxes As a couple of people I know,

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Speaker 1: you know, offhand. They're not really mates or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: And then there's vaccadaisical people. They're people that are sort

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Speaker 1: of they've only just come to the party recently. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that with any disrespect whatsoever. When we

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Speaker 1: first found out about the pandemic, I remember the first

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Speaker 1: time I heard about coronavirus was towards the end of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I remember hearing about it, you know, just

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Speaker 1: In and I remember that we did jokes. Remember they

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Speaker 1: were stealing toilet paper. It was around the time of

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Speaker 1: the Hong Kong riots and stuff like that. We made

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Speaker 1: jokes about toilet paper, and I remember watching stories about in.

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Speaker 2: Wu Han there was being people locked in.

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Speaker 1: Being welded into that. Well, thank god, that's not happening here.

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Speaker 1: So in my mind I was always in a way

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Speaker 1: I knew it was going to happen. And then when

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Speaker 1: it all went, when the s went down and scom

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Speaker 1: I announced, you know, life has changed, remember that newsborn.

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Speaker 1: At that time, I was thinking, jeez, we'll get a vaccine, sir,

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Speaker 1: and this is scary, scary stuff. So mentally I was

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Speaker 1: prepared for the vaccine. And because I've taken vaccines since

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Speaker 1: I was six weeks old, I know that you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing okay so far, so I don't have any

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Speaker 1: sort of real concerns about anyone.

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Speaker 2: Interesting though, that there are people who, as you say,

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Speaker 2: maybe vaccindaysical who haven't got around to it or sitting

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Speaker 2: on the fence. There are people who feel that they've

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Speaker 2: done a lot of reading about it, and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of information out there that has made them anxious

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Speaker 2: about it. Have a listen to this. This is from

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Speaker 2: the TV show Question Everything on the ABC and the

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Speaker 2: Fabulous Jan fran I love her, but this I thought

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Speaker 2: was very interesting.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of COVID vaccine missing information on social media.

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Speaker 3: It's the type of stuff that your cousin thrice removed

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Speaker 3: is suddenly sharing and odds are here's where they got

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Speaker 3: it from.

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Speaker 2: There's about twelve people who are producing sixty five percent

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Speaker 2: of anti vaccine misinformation on social media platforms. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: From a sample of anti vax content shared to Facebook

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Speaker 3: and Twitter, eight hundred and twelve thousand times, two thirds

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Speaker 3: of it were tracked back to twelve people dubbed the

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Speaker 3: disinformation doesn't among them physicians, a bodybuilder, a wellness blogger,

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Speaker 3: and the nephew of John F. Kennedy. Incidentally, So how

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Speaker 3: does this happen? Well, quite easily. Actually, here is a

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Speaker 3: single article that has potentially reached thousands, if not hundreds

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Speaker 3: of thousands of people. We know this because it was

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Speaker 3: shared twelve thousand times on Facebook alone. This article was

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Speaker 3: written by this man who was published six hundred other

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Speaker 3: anti vax articles since the pandemic began. And he's not

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Speaker 3: just faithbook, he is everywhere. So the rest of the

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Speaker 3: disinformation doesn't spooking their crank cures and shot his statistics

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Speaker 3: to an estimated fifty nine million followers. The thing is

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Speaker 3: this misinformation impacts the number of people willing to get vaccinated,

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Speaker 3: which is a problem in a pandemic. Yes, these are

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Speaker 3: uncertain times, and it is absolutely right to ask questions,

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Speaker 3: but it is important to remember that what might seem

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Speaker 3: like a grassroots movement of millions of people is largely

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Speaker 3: being driven by the interests of just twelve Wow.

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Speaker 1: And that's not the first time I've heard that. I've

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Speaker 1: heard that before January Wow. And then that's then you

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Speaker 1: get people like poor old guy Sebastian, who's not an

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Speaker 1: anti VAX's guy, but then he's doing this bumbling, backpedaling

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Speaker 1: apology that he doesn't need to do.

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Speaker 3: Jonesy and Amanda's Gamnation