1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as. 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: Well as their lows, all. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: In a bid to inspire us to furiously fail. Yalloha, 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Potterroony. Today, we have got a guest 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: that's been on the goal list since day diart It's taken. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I think this pot's been out for over three years now. 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: And you know me, I'm a real stickler for recording 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: in real life, So massive thank you to this guest, 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Tanya Hennessy. Mate, what a legend. Was literally here for 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: like four days filming a TV show, hosting a TV 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: show out of Disneyland. Just like, look, if you can 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: get to Disneyland, we can totally record. And I was like, mate, 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I will be there with bells on. And it was 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: her only day off, only day and this absolute legend 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: of a human sat down did the pod with me. 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I hope you love this as much as I did, 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: and do because she just shared so much of herself, 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: very open, very honest, very vulnerable, very no bullshit, like 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: no filters, no nothing. What you see or in this case, 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: here is what you get. And such an incredible powerhouse 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: of a human being. I could list everything, but you know, comedian, author, 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: TV host, radio hosts, got her own makeup, rage, her 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: own podcast, like just and incredible human being and very generous, 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: like right after the pod Tenya's like come down to 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: the Disney Hotel Paul with me and went for a swim, 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and just thank you so much Tanya, or one taking 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the time, but also for taking me under your wing, 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, like very very cool human being and absolutely 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: on a tab on the pod mate into the listener. 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I really hope you love it. I know you well 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: enjoy Tanya Hennessy. Do you know how long I've been 36 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: wanting to have you on this podcast? A while? Three years, mate, 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: over three years, and I every time you're like, yeah, 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: I'm keen, I'm keen. I'm like, I can't do it 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: on zoom. We've got to wait until it both in 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the same city. But it turns out the same country. 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Now I know we're in Anaheim. I made you come 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: to me. We're in Disneyland. We're at your Disneyland hotel. 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: We've got a beautiful view of the Disneyland car park. 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Mate, I've got a sack. And as soon as I 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: got here and I was unpacking the podcast, I was like, 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: hang on at these fireworks on the carpet. There's fireworks 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: in the carp there's little mini Mickey's on. 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: The carpet, very cute. Key's on the bed. I don't 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: know if you can see yees bread. Oh and if 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: you turn this on behind, don't you hear no fireworks slider. 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: There's literally like a bedtime lullaby and fairy lights in 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: your room and. 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: That's the Disney Castle behind. It's like the BedHead. And 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: then when you turn the TV on you can only 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: watch Disney movies. So I am ready to leave. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and mate, thank you for sharing that, 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: by the way, staying it Disney. 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: No. Look, I love Disney Light, I love Disney. But 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: I've had your totally. 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: You know what. I was thinking about how to introduce 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: you this morning, and I was like, holy mackerel, and 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean this is the best way ever. You are 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: a mogul. Yeah, I'm a mogul. 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm a mainly mainly sexy. Hey, you're a sexy mogul. Totally, 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm a sexy mogul. I tried that the other day 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: with when it's at Star Wars Land or whatever. They 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: were like getting us to make lightsabers, and they were like, 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: we've got because you know they're very in character. We've 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: got the one for defense, We've got the one for art, 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: we've got the one for you know, the dark side. 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, do you have one for sexy 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: and they were like, Tanya, no, we're gonna have to. 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Cut their amazing amazing. Yeah, I do a lot. I 74 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: do a lot, comedian, author, TV host, radio, so much radio. 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that's where you kind of cut 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: your teeth in the media industry, right, No. 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: One ever remembers that I do radio. It's ten years. 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: Don't you worry. We're gonna deep dime and your make 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: up rageed around. 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: With a beasting and poverty. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: Mate, how it is. That's why, like I say, mogul, 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: because it's you hustle, you run your own show, and 83 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I just don't believe in the word no. 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if someone says no, it makes me even 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: more like determined to do it. 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: I love that though. I love that, but I think 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: as well, like one of. 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: The only people in Australia who has a makeup lied 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: let alone too, I don't even really wear it, like 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: do you know though, I really wanted to go out 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: and buy the nudy like the croissant. 92 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, I can send you one. That one looks 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: amazing and it does have a touch of sparkling. Just flavor, yeah, flavor, 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: you know. 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a strawberry. Oh, I'll send it to you. 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: It's like it's such a neutrals palette. Because I'm doing 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 2: my oment hair and makeup here for this Disney shoot. 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: We're actually doing a show called Luxury Escapes. I've been 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: seeing it all on your Instagram. Is this your first 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: travel Yeah, I've never done it before. And so I'm 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: doing my own hair and makeup, And I tell you, 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: my own makeup is actually really coming in handy. 103 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Because it's bloody. 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: It's very like it's lasting sixteen hour days and the 105 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: waterproof was scarred. Can I just tell you for twelve 106 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: dollars available price on, it's the best you'll ever comes 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: off easy, But where's all the way through the day. 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Oh you are not. So I have this weird so 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: this weird thing with you where I like am a 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: super fan. You should just know that straight out like hate. 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: But also where the exact same age year of the Ox? 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you know that you're at the end of the 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Year of the Rabbit? But OX sounds better, Well, it 114 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: means we're quite stubborn, yep, quite loyal and hard working 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: and tenacious. 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get which. 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: I feel that fits you. I feel like fits you. 118 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I bet you. We're gonna google and it'll be like, no, no, 119 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: it's the Year of the Rabbit, Lola. 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: You're no, You're way more like you're star signing here, 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: but you're you know stuff, And I just go, oh, yep, 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: you know if someone just mentions it in passing or 123 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: if I'm in some weird psychic's lair. 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: Mate. Have you been to Berry. 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: There's a shopping Berry down the end and it's like, 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: you know, Tarot readings and you walk in there, yeah, 127 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: and they're just like. 128 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: Oh, the auras are here. Oh you buy. 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: This crystal, you want a book? You're connected? And I'm like, yeah, 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: I know you're not. 131 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: Though it's Hitten miss with with psychic readings. 132 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: I reckon so I love them, though it's a good time. 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: I had a medium on this podcast and I was like, 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: blew my socks off. It's a good one, like like 135 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: literally like, oh, your grandfather's here. His name's Fred. I 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: was like, that's when it's a good one. I was like, yep, 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: straight out of the gate. Yep, straight out of the gate. 138 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: And he's like, I mean, so's your nad on your 139 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: mom's side though, Dorothy like stray, yeah. 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: Not like, oh, you've got someone on the other side. 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: Their name is starts with. 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: P or C or D. 143 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: Is it stephen No, it's Fred Fred Fred Fred Stephenson, 144 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: the name he goes by up there. 145 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: It is so specific. Okay, there are so many things 146 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: that I want to talk to you about, like so 147 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: many things. 148 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'm on a bed and I'm comfortable. I'm available 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: for you. Oh well, thank you. I'm so tired today, though, 150 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: I tell you these hours of this day. 151 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I thought. 152 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Show would be more like how you see it on Getaway, 153 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: like Hi, I'm a land on a beach, but like 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: it's actually more like hi, my feet hurt where like yeah, 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: it's just I went on because you have to go on, 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Like we're on like three rides, Like you have to 157 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: go multiple times to get the shots. 158 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like one, which is like it's not. 159 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: The it's like actually amazing to go on the place. 160 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to light up. The rides 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: here are actually that Indiana Jones ride, they're so crazy, yeah, 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: and Peter Pan Yeah. 163 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: But the Star Wars ride so that I never like 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: they are groundbreaking rides. The Rise, it's called the Rise 165 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: of the Resistance. It is the most exceptional ride. I 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: don't even know how it is. It would have cost 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of days, I tell you, but. 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Like it's worth it. 169 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: The thing I like about Disneyland is like it's such 170 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: a commitment to bringing joy to people. 171 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: It's the happiest place on earth, isn't that? Like the 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: tagliner it is, but I love that. 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: It's like we're going to spend all this money, and 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: yes it is for commercial profit, but it's for joy. 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: People are spending money on their joy and their creativity 176 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: or their you know, entertainment, and I love I love 177 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: that so much. But I always wanted to be a 178 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: TV presenter. I just never thought it would happen. For me, 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: and I went to Nider to study presenting, and. 180 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: So did I. By the way, did you Yeah? 181 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. We went around the room. I remember the stay. 182 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: I was twenty five, no, twenty three. Went around the 183 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: room and there was one, you know, real lecturer and 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: he just said all the different types of people, what 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: we looked like, present kids exactly, and they looked at 186 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: me and went, can't place you. And I left the 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: next week because I was like, if you can't place me, 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: then I can't spend this money. 189 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: To be here. But it's true. 190 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Here we are doing a travel show, luxury Escapes, and 191 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: none of my course have done any presenting, No one 192 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: in my course. Really it sort of is like the 193 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: testament to being yourself because no one else can place 194 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: you besides yourself. 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: Is it true? 196 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 2: Though? 197 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: You looked up to jewels Land and we're like stuff, 198 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: But I'm going to send I'm going to send good 199 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: old jewels Land my presenting reel. See what he has 200 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: to say? Yeah, and then you take me through what happened. 201 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: So I was like in Toowoomba doing radio and he 202 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: was on the Hit Network at the time doing it 203 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: like it it was like a scoop a show or 204 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: I was doing Fife and Jewels. Yes, something I remember 205 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: about that show. I still, oh, such a good show. 206 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: And I finished my presenting reel. I put it together 207 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: into Womber again even though I was on radio, and 208 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to send it to Jewels 209 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: lie and because you know his names in the system. 210 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: So I sent it and then I got an email 211 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: back like five minutes later, going, hey, can I call you? 212 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh shit, I'm like, he's gonna 213 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: yell at me for you know, using his email. But 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: he called me and he's like, you are very good. 215 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, he's like, you need to be 216 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: doing more of this. He's like, but but if I've 217 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: got if, I'm honest with you, because Jewels is like, 218 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: you know, he's like ahead of the ball game. You know, 219 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: he invented, not invented, but he definitely was on the 220 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: forefront of social media and influencer marketing. Yeah, in like 221 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, you know, like he is, his brain is 222 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: so far forward. He's way underrated. 223 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Anyway. 224 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: He was like, Daniel, the show reels good, but you're 225 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: better at being yourself. You're trying to be somebody else. 226 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: What you need to do is do you like three 227 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: minute videos, be really funny, dig into like the minutia 228 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: of life, the more like authentic and real you can get. 229 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: Don't do broad do niche it'll do really well. And 230 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: he goes and don't just like hang up and say 231 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: you're going to do it. He's like, I want you 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: to do it. Oh accountability love it. 233 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: And I did it. 234 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: And then my first video I did at one point 235 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: one point three million views, and I sent him a. 236 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Screenshop overnight, wasn't it like in one day? Yeah? 237 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: And I said him a screenshop going, oh my god, 238 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: thank you for the advice. And he called me again. 239 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Being like, are you fucking kidding? 240 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: He's like, I thought it'd get like a couple of hundred, 241 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: you know. So I guess in a way, I do 242 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: have a lot to you know, to ode a Jules 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: Land in a way, like I think the thing is 244 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: I give a lot of advice to people and they 245 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: don't listen. And do you would you say that all 246 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: the and they don't listen all No, all the time. 247 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: I give people advice and then don't listen, and they 248 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: give me excuses and I'm like, well but. 249 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: It's hard, like and that's what I'm excited to stare. 250 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: It's hard, but if you want it, you do it. 251 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: But this is what I'm excited to talk to you 252 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: about being in the entertainment industry. And like the first 253 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: thing you asked me when I walked in to meet 254 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: you in the lobby, You're like, mate, how's la? And 255 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: I go, this is the city of resilience, Like you 256 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: have to be okay to hand or rejection, no after no, 257 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: after no, aftern and like being told the most wild 258 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: things and so like I love that, Like you have 259 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: been able to just be like, Okay, I've just been 260 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: told I don't fit as a TV presenter. Okay, well 261 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: what can I try? And like when you were saying 262 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: like you wanted to be an actor and that wasn't 263 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: working for you, Like you have this real resilience. Do 264 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: you think that that's just come from like straight out 265 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: of the gate, being like I want to work somewhere 266 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: in media and I'm just gonna give everything a crack 267 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: until something. 268 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: Sticks, or like what came from like I really wanted 269 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: to tell stories. I think that's what it was, and 270 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: I just didn't know how And so when I first thought, 271 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I'm going to be an actor. 272 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: That's how I'm going to tell the story. And I 273 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't really, I'm not really good 274 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: at this. 275 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't really. It's quite hard. It's very hard. Acting 276 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: is hard, and I don't know. 277 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: The thing is with acting, right, is that you have 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: to do the same line over and over again, and 279 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: it's their long days and you gotta like stand around 280 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it's like cry because 281 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: your mom the scene your mum's dead, and but you've 282 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: just had luncheon, you've been dicking around with the group. 283 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: It's really hard, like it's very mentally taxing. And look 284 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: it sounds Look if you're listening to this new or 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: a nurse or something, you'd be like, oh fuck, that's easy. 286 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: Here, and it is. 287 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: It's just sort of like it's it's it's just it's 288 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: for it's for me. I find acting really difficult. 289 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it is, I call I say, unless 290 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: you figured like because there are so different schools of 291 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: method schools and like you could be doing Chubby here 292 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: or Miisner here, or you could be like stuff and no, no, no, 293 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm training lunch like people have just got all these 294 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: different schools of thought. And if you rock up on 295 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: set and another actor is a different style train to 296 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you and they have cast you like, say there was 297 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: a scene where like you and I had to play 298 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: like ex lovers or something. Some schools would be like, 299 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I have to cast you as somebody that I don't 300 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: like that has caused me pain from my real life. 301 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: In my bar, I feel this pain and it is 302 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: really wild, mate. And you'll be on set and like, 303 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: there's some classes I've done here in LA and you've 304 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: gotta scream at your scene partner. How you would scream it, 305 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: maybe like a mom or something from your real life, 306 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: and it's really psychologically taxing. So yep, I get it. 307 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: And I've heard you say like you started doing way 308 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: better in your career when you were like, stuff this, 309 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be my authentic self. Yeah, it's super weird. 310 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: It's super weird, like you know, because then after it 311 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: was be an actor, I was like, I'll go direct, 312 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: and I did some directing a union and stuff. I 313 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: was like, I don't like this either. 314 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Directing is hard. Directing wouldn't like. 315 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: I think what I was trying to find was not 316 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: so much throw something at the wall and hope it's 317 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: stuck so much as like I was just going, what 318 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: what do I want to do? I'm going to I'm 319 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: going to just try every I'm got to find it, like, 320 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: go through it authentically and organically, just to figure out 321 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: which storytelling method is the one that I'm like, I 322 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: guess maybe I well, maybe I did throw every thing 323 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: at the wall. 324 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I didn't feel like that. 325 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: But maybe telling this a back I. 326 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Am no even I've heard I've heard you the interview 327 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: before and talk about in radio you really love short form, 328 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: which is really like quick fits and I love it, yeah, 329 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: which for me, I'd be like, oh my goodness, that's scary. 330 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: And I have like deep dived you and what you 331 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: do stand up? Oh yeah, Holy so I haven't. There's 332 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: no way. Like I've just finished a six week course 333 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: in improv training and how was that? It was petrifying? 334 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: But no, no, I did it improv la. Oh yeah, 335 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: but the teacher was UCB trained. 336 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: You should go to UCB too, I've heard should I 337 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: come back and want do it together? 338 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Do it mate, I'll do it with you. You're going 339 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: to like clean the floor with me. 340 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: No, definitely not because I used to be is upright 341 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Citizens Brigade and it's if you ever come to LA. 342 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: They used to have two but they only have one now. 343 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: It's nuts. You just go and between the hours of 344 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: five and turn or five and midnight. I think every 345 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: hour on the hour they have a different improv show, 346 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: Like it's it's the best improv you'll ever see this. 347 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Like some nights there'll be like random celebrities for the 348 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: one hour, but you don't know who you're gonna get. Yeah, 349 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Kristin Wiggle, roll in for a thingy Will Ferrell, you. 350 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Know, it's it's so cool. 351 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: We just people you've seen in shows, but like not 352 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure of their name. 353 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, especially here in LA because they were writing 354 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: their own shows. 355 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got into any celebs here. 356 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: So I was having coffee the other day and I 357 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: was sorry, I was lined up. I just picked my 358 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: coffee up and then it was the lead off Gray's 359 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Anatomy lined up to get her coffee. Allen LLL Pompeo. Correct, 360 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: she look gorge of course. 361 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: Wouldn't anyone talking to her? 362 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Or now she's on her own head in the phone. 363 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Love it. That was it. I feel like that was it. 364 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, right into Larry King here once. 365 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's back. That's a good You know. 366 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: He owns a bagel shop in Beverly Hills. No, yeah, 367 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: and I love bagels and he loves bagels, and I 368 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: like respect the shit out of that so much so 369 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: that he built a bagel shop that has the New 370 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: York water in it, because that's like, apparently what makes 371 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: really yeah, New York bagels amazing. So we wanted to 372 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: have that in LA and we were just in there 373 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: to have bagels, and he walked in one day and 374 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: I was like, did you say anything, No, because I 375 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: didn't want it, Like yeah, no, yeah, he's trying to 376 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: actually more celebrities in Byron Bay. 377 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, really, well, you got all the hemis. 378 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: You got all the hem really rolling around one hundred percent. 379 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I remember I get this text from my boyfriend. He's like, hey, 380 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: just went for a surf with Chris and I was like, 381 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: we don't know any Oh my, I got hemmies. I 382 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh, he hemmy boy, I've got so many things. 383 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about. 384 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Stop asking you miscellaneous question. No, no, no, no, I love 385 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: I love this. 386 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: You can someone just listen to that bit was like 387 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: what you fucking wink it? Oh, tell me about an improv? 388 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Is it true you are a trained still walker? Yes? 389 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Legit like did that at Luna Park? 390 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did it, Like so different types of stilts. 391 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: You've got like your painters stilts, which are the ones 392 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: that anyone can use, But then you've got like what 393 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: you call like traditional stills, which are the circles, which 394 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: are the poles and are far harder to walking because 395 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: you can't stand still in them. 396 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: You have to keep transferring your weight. 397 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: And the only reason I got into still walking was 398 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: because when I was a clown at Luna Park, it 399 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: was like twenty five dollars an hour, but if you 400 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: were a still walker, it was forty five, and I 401 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: just wanted more money. I'm not even getting so I 402 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: just like taught myself out as well. My friend taught 403 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: me and we did a bit of training there, just 404 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: so I could make more money. Did you Is it 405 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: true you fell on Russell I did fall on Russell 406 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: Crow because you do your training on a Wednesday, sorry 407 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: Friday afternoon in the park, because you've got to get 408 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: out there because the surface is really bumpy, got it. 409 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: And still that's very difficult. Any surface is difficult, but 410 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: when it's slightly bumpy, you can sort of trip a 411 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: little bit. And then when there's children in the part, 412 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: you know it's it's full and kids hold the stilts, 413 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: so you know you needed kind of a bit of 414 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: training and you know you fall down a lot on them, 415 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: which yeah, but yeah, So I was walking out and 416 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: tripped and I put my hand because it was my 417 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: first time out in the park because you practice in 418 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: a different room. Yeah, carpet was my first tripped on 419 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of ashphalt, put my hand down the 420 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: first head that I held, and it was like a 421 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: man with a rabbito's hat. 422 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, I'm so. 423 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Sorry, and I pulled my head away, pull my hand away, 424 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: and he was so he looks so mad, and I 425 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: was like, I'm so sorry, Russell Crow. So like celebrities 426 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: come into Luna Park Friday afternoons, that's just like a 427 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: weird time that. 428 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah for good, Pharrell was there. 429 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: I went to Carell's a Winner Winner Guy Sebastian got 430 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: married at Luna Park when I was working. 431 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: There and I'm married at Luna Park. 432 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: He did, yeah, and I was I just wanted to 433 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: go look at the venue, but I was dressed as 434 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: like a little clown. I wasn't still walking that day, 435 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: and I just I walked up to have a look. 436 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 437 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: And he had a really cool wedding and I interviewed 438 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: him once and I was like, oh my god, guy, 439 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: you had a cool wedding and he's like what what 440 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: And like to prove it to him, I was like, 441 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: you guys had cactuses instead of flowers, and he was like, 442 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: we we did. I was like, I know. I said, 443 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: go look at your wedding photos because I'm in some 444 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: of them. 445 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah. 446 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: I was so random because they just got like some 447 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: random photos with guests with the clouds sort of thing 448 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: because I was up there. But I shouldn't have been. 449 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm such a good story. 450 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's just like you just never know who's 451 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: ever gonna do anything, so you should always be kind. 452 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I regardless of whether or someone becomes something. I just think, like, 453 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: don't be a dig just straight up. 454 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: I've got to say I've been on shows before where 455 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I've gone on as a guest or something, and I've 456 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: seen like the way that the that someone is on camera, 457 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: and it's very different when the cameras aren't rolling and. 458 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa? 459 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: Am I in like a weird reality show? Right now? 460 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: You've seen it too. I hate it. It's meant But 461 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: this is why I'm so I feel really lucky to 462 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: be chatting to you because I was listening to your pod. Actually, 463 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: you've got a couple of pods. 464 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: Just you name a pod I've got, Yeah, I've got it. 465 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: But you were talking about kind of being bullied online 466 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: about like, oh, you used to be I might have 467 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: been online, but you were like you used to be 468 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: more authentic. 469 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, someone had to go at me about yeah, 470 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: it used to be more authentic, and I was like, 471 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: I actually feel like I've never been more authentic right now. 472 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: It's just that I've grown up on the internet. You know, 473 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: You've watched me grow and evolved, and I'm going through 474 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, fertility issues at the moment, and you share 475 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: so beautifully by the way, but it's like, how much 476 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: more do you want of me? 477 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 478 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: And also that does come like I've learned the hard 479 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: way where the line is, and I also have learned 480 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: that like, I don't know anyone anything and totally like 481 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: what I do, hopefully ohe them is entertainment. So sometimes 482 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I have to take a break for 483 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: my own mental health, and I encourage you to do 484 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: that for yourself as well. But when I come back, 485 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: hopefully it's funny or interesting or educational or just ridiculous 486 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: or takes you out of your life for ten minutes 487 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: or I don't know, it's just sort of like a 488 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't live on the internet. And 489 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: I think that also makes a difference between a creator 490 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: and an influencer is that I don't use my everyday 491 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: life content. I create content full stop. 492 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: So this is where like, and I don't want this 493 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: to come across the wrong way, but I wouldn't call 494 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: you an influencer even though that's one of the things 495 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: you do. I hate it. Yeah, I don't think you 496 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: are one. 497 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: No, Well, the thing is, yeah, like that, I think 498 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: that is a bit of the difference is that influencers 499 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: definitely use their life to catapult content as opposed to 500 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: creating it just from scratch. Yeah, and I there's so 501 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: much that goes on in my life that no one 502 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: has any idea about. And that's the other thing is 503 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: people like you share so much, Mike. I don't even 504 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: share like even ten percent. 505 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you share something like super vulnerable, like the 506 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: fertility stuff, do you go what am I trying to say? 507 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Does it kind of go through your mind where you 508 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: like this might help other people? Because I know when 509 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, because we're the 510 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: same age, and I was like, oh shit, Like you know, 511 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: this is like making me feel okay about like looking 512 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: at options and stuff, but like it's something that you know, 513 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: like it's not that it's taboo, but it's kind of 514 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fear around. I don't know if 515 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: you feel that way. 516 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: I think watching a lot of gen Z content on 517 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: TikTok has made me feel more like wanting to be 518 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: more empowered by my femininity femininity instead of apologetic for 519 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: my femininity. 520 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, big time, big time. 521 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: You know it's hard. 522 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: You got mega bullied when you started doing a radio 523 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: showing camera, right. 524 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: Mega bullied sounds like a Pokemon. But I did get 525 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: really like abused straight up. But I like, the Internet's 526 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: a hard one, you know, because I love it. I 527 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: love the Internet, but then I also freaking hate it. Yeah, 528 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes i'm so much like because I'm 529 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: over here in La the time difference, you know, and 530 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm working so I'm not really on my phone, and 531 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, but then I'm also addicted to it. 532 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 2: Then I get anxious when I've not been on it 533 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: for too long and I'm like, I need to go 534 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: catch up and see what someone I haven't even known ever. 535 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: But you're super self aware. I feel like you're very 536 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: we're human, and I know that you're really open about this, 537 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: and I'm super pro therapy. It's my non negotiable in life. 538 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm into my sixth year and I'm obsessed. 539 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been seeing a therapist since I was nineteen. 540 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: No, that's amazing. Do you win you whenever you move? 541 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: You like, okay, therapist. Yeah, it's a change. 542 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes a counselor depends on what I want order. Sometimes 543 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: a counsel is good. Yeah, I just need like a 544 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: random person who you don't know. 545 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: That non biased kind of like thought process that's not 546 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: in like your head. Yes, has to just be like 547 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: sometimes to prod or ask questions. I also think that 548 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this like as a it's for creatives only, 549 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: but if you're working in industry where you're effectively self made, 550 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: and you're the one that if you don't work, then 551 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: well the work's not going to happen, and you're creatively driven, 552 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: I just think like having a theraist, Like my boyfriend's 553 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: also a creative. He's a composer and sound engineer, composer. 554 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: He just got his first I know, sorry, boss, he's 555 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: like stopped telling you about it, Like he just got 556 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: his first big TV composing Oh and I'm so pumped 557 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: for him. And he's done quods for years. I know. 558 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: I'll ask you off the becase know what it is, 559 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 2: because that's really exciting. 560 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: But my, but my our thing is because we're both creatives, 561 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: we both have a therapist, and people go, oh, is 562 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with your relationship that you both you're 563 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: both in therapy and we're like, no, the opposite, Like 564 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: we can process so quick. We like we're that's. 565 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: A generational thing because you would never find a gen 566 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: z who. 567 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Would ask you that question. Yeah, okay, or younger millennials. 568 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: You think it's because we're in the older bunch of millennials. 569 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 570 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 2: I'm just like the I don't know, I don't know. 571 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: I find it weird that someone would even question you 572 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: seeing a therapist. I think that's so weird. 573 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: But it does happen, does it. I'm so sorry. 574 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, really weird that people, I feel like, criticize 575 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. It's like, it's like if you 576 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: have a broken leg, no one goes are you saying 577 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: a doctor? 578 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: But you will notice in America people will be like, oh, 579 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: I've got like four and yeah, I love it. I 580 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: love that for them. I'm jealous major. I'm like, where 581 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: do you get the money? That therapy is expensive? 582 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: It is, but it is so and I'm socessarious and 583 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: it's almost like, Okay, the suggestion before was like, if 584 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: you've got a broken leg, you see a doctor. I'm 585 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: not saying you have to have a broken brain or 586 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: a broken system or a broken you know whatever to 587 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: see a therapist. I actually think that some of the 588 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: best therapy I've done is in between life crisis. 589 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: As you can process past shit, or you can start 590 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: to understand who you are as a human being, or 591 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: you're just. 592 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Processes that aren't serving you. You know, I used to 593 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: get really mad all the time, really mad at like 594 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: the industry for asking me to work for free, or 595 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: people not respecting my brand, but I had to prospect 596 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: their brand and it just felt very in my mind catastrophic, 597 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: which it wasn't, but it was impacting the work. And yeah, 598 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: that's therapy helped me sort of figure out why I 599 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: do that and maybe some better processes around behavior. 600 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm fully in it, like screaming or anything. 601 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: I just like get mad and be like, I don't 602 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: understand what I have to respect other people's brands, but 603 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: they can shit all over my personal brand totally. 604 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: But for me also, I'd always feel the same way 605 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: about the same things, So I was finding that I 606 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: would be like competitive sort of yeah, I'd be like, 607 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: oh fuck, you're doing that same thing. For me. A 608 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: big one was like oh fucking emotionally eating again because 609 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: you feel shit about that thing because you actually feel 610 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: rejection and rejection feel shit see And a thenyother weird 611 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: like knowing yourself well, yeah type of thing you just 612 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: want to get out of your room. 613 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Yes, So what DoD therapy help you through with that? 614 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: Like? What? So now I'm more like, oh, hang on, 615 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm feeling this thing, do you Yes, I really want 616 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: to go out and go to In and Out because 617 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: we're in American In and Out. It's freaking amazing. And 618 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the animal fries are my favorite. And I'm a nutritionist 619 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: and probably shouldn't even be admitting that to people that 620 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: are like, oh, you meant to be in health. I'm like, 621 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: I love it, but eighty twenty mate, like fuck, and. 622 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: Also like you're a human being and I don't want 623 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: to see if I'm honors with you someone who's like 624 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: so unrealistic about health. I went to this fucking health 625 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: retren and this bitch was like, guys, you shouldn't be 626 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: drinking coffee. I was like, unrealistic. 627 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: I own a coffee company. 628 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, unrealistic. Green tea everyone, here's something wilder decaf. I 629 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I wake up for ten years. I 630 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: woke up at three thirty am. I'm not gonna have 631 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: a green tea back. 632 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: We need like five or six coffees to get through 633 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: the morns, get through the shit. 634 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: But I just think it's like, really, it's kind of 635 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: mean to suggest that, like and not understanding the audience. 636 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: If someone's like they're at a health retreat to try 637 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: and help themselves because they probably under high pressure, high stress, 638 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: having tense jobs. To tell them that they're already failing 639 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: because they can't even you know, drink green tea as 640 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: a bare minimum, because that's I'm. 641 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Just like, read the room. Also green tea, do you 642 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: mean to know buzz whatsoever? Like green tea is great 643 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: for antioxidants, but I'm never drinking green tea because I'm like, oh, 644 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I need to pick me up. 645 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: And also, it's not like we're on meth. 646 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on caffeine. Like no one you know what I. 647 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: Mean, We're not going on You know, it's not really 648 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: hard to. 649 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: Do some coffee when you get back to Australia. I 650 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: love coffee. Now I'm in the world's worst one, right 651 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: you are? Actually you know. 652 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: It's the Starbucks. Well that's kind of great. 653 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: But is it feeling good now? 654 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's it's how many calories are in 655 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: this cup? Honestly, A good A good thousand? 656 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? 657 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: I've walked so far just round it. 658 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: So in Australia, I find it really easy to just 659 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: get like your regular Lata or whatever. But here it's 660 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: like pumpkin spice, this chi dirty chat. But like there 661 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: are so many different flavors you can get here. It's 662 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: like a freaking it's like being at a theme park. 663 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: I got a the flight from I get a coffee 664 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, I give a nice almond late 665 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: and she goes what flavor and I was like, just 666 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: coffee flavor and she's like, oh no, we don't make 667 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: it with anything else. You can have coram, you can 668 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: have vanilla coconut, you can have java chip. And I 669 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: was like, oh, just just coffee. We don't do just coffee. 670 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, God, love you guys over here. 671 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: It's but we don't just think. If you quickly learn 672 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: as an Aussie in La, you quickly figure out like 673 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: the places, the coffee. I'm a coffee nerd. I've got 674 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you about books because I'm also a 675 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: writer too. 676 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: But how many books have you written? 677 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: I've read? I guess, yeah, twenty two, no, no, no, 678 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: last twelve eleven. 679 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: But why is the number two coming to me? Like 680 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: it's one and two. There's two numbers, so. 681 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: I reckon maybe I'm doing another one. Who knows, not yet, 682 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: But I'm just let's manifest that shit shall four four yes, okay, 683 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: I really want to talk to you about drum roll please, 684 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Stevie Luise saying that it's Stevie Luise and Spotlight please 685 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: it's Stepel Louise. I loved watching you on YouTube read 686 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: the first chapter. I see this. This could be a 687 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: beautiful cartoon voice by you. You know, I would love 688 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: to play the mother. The mother is a you could 689 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: totally do Stevie Louie's voice. 690 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: I want to give the opportunity due to a kid. 691 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: So most adults do kids. Do you know that? Oh? 692 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: Really? 693 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it's because it work longer hours. And 694 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: well that's what I learned in in this course I 695 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: did this animation voice course. I was like, I saw 696 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: someone go into the booth and do a six year 697 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: old webbe yeh, like the niece of Scrooge McDuck or 698 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: whatever you probably know these tales. Yeah, and it was 699 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: like someone our exact age, like literally having a six 700 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: year old voice, And I was like, how do you 701 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: get that skill set? 702 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: Seriously, I love watching people do voiceovers on the internet. 703 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite YouTube SA dives, just watching 704 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: people do like the guy who does the girl who 705 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: does ash ketch him on Pokemon. 706 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to listen. 707 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: Oh listen, she does heaps and they're so talented. 708 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: They'll send you my favorite. Bradley Cooper got a crush 709 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: rocket into the Galaxy right. It's like, it's such a 710 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: good gig if you can get it. Apparently it's phenomenal. 711 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: Pay too. I had no idea. Now that's on my 712 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: bucket list. Mate, you're me both. Let's just anyone listening. 713 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Any next animation I interviewed Ursula Carlson. 714 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: I love her. 715 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: She's just done an animated voice to play this little 716 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: this little hippo, and she was like when the hippo 717 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: was like running, she's like, I'm in the booth running, 718 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: and when it's getting knocked over, she's like, I'm getting 719 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: knocked over. She said it was the funnest best thing 720 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: that She's like. She loved it so much, and I 721 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I have to do this. 722 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: What was what's the show? She couldn't say, but it's 723 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: coming out soon, so as soon as I know, I'll send. 724 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: It to please. 725 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: How much fun? I feel like you're maybe good at. 726 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: This girl, even if we're not. 727 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: I just I just want to do it. 728 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: But no, I love Ursley Kels. I've never met her. 729 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: My dad is such a huge fan of hers. The 730 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: other day I was home and he just go, like, 731 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: you print you know, you get your tickets and for 732 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: some reason, old people print them. 733 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still love printing them. 734 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: Why are we I feel like, even though we're the 735 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: same age, that's a weird thing to do. And also, 736 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: why are the people you hanging out with questioning your therapy? 737 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: I like, am so mad. 738 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: At older thirty six or something? Have you noticed all 739 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: my notes are also like handwritten hand right? I love? 740 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: But maybe I'm a young thirty six. Yeah, because my 741 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: boyfriend's seventy years younger than I love this. 742 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: I've loved your videos. 743 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm seeing a cougar, yeah, because he is like every 744 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: time we want to celebrate, I think, ooh better eight pm, 745 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: and he goes clubbing and I'm like, you know what 746 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Like he has such different expectations and holidays. 747 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: He's like, let's go scag and. 748 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, let's read a book and sit all mnd 749 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: of very sit related. But he's But I think maybe 750 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: because I hang out like my sister's younger my brother's younger, 751 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: my boyfriend's younger. You know, I'm on the internet create 752 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: Internet content TikTok all the time. 753 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm like an yeah, but my biggest fear is that 754 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm too old to make it. No, so that might 755 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: be where it comes in. But a lot of Australia like, 756 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm shit, you're not right. Before I came here, I 757 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: was in acting class in Australia and an actor turned 758 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: to me and said, I've heard that if you go 759 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: to LA over thirty and don't have a career in Australia, 760 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: you're never gonna make it. And I looked at her 761 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: and I said, I just can't afford to think like that. 762 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: But it's also like what place is that coming from from? 763 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Of course, right, but this is totally but in the 764 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: moment it bit you devil dog bitch? Why what's your why? 765 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: But but like. 766 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: It's so such a like I have this thing with 767 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: limiting beliefs, beliefs and like I think, you know, my 768 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: friend the other day was like, I'll never make that 769 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: much money and I was like why. 770 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I fully, I'm fully I'm with you. 771 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: One. Why yeah, why I'll never have that? Why you're 772 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: already telling the universe you are worthy of and it's limited. 773 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Never say that to the universe. Never believe that, because 774 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: if you believe it, you'll create it. And I just 775 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: think that's limiting beliefs are They drive me and say 776 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: if my mom doesn't, Mom's like, oh, well I'm old now, 777 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: so I can't do that. 778 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, you can. Why can't you? 779 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: You're the one who's putting the limitation on you, not 780 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: like society, fuck everyone else. You're the only one who 781 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: can limit yourself totally. And that's a scary thought too 782 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: for a lot of people because it's like, oh, if 783 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: I'm the one in control of the limiting thought and 784 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: I can take the limit off, then it's then if 785 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't make it happen, it's on you know. 786 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I do think if you sit with it 787 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, why can't I do this? Or 788 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: why do I feel like I'm told for it or 789 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you sit with it, you can 790 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: see that there is a remedy for this concept. Like 791 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: for me, like I'm like, oh, okay, well, I've just 792 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: got to study harder and do more training so that 793 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: my skill set makes me feel like, I'm confident in 794 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: this place and I'm never going to question my age. Yeah, 795 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: but Lola, like people need to like look like people. 796 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're not gonna they're not going to do 797 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 2: like high school musical with no teachers. Yeah they're not. 798 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Like that was a real random, no high school musical. 799 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: I know you like the second one more than the 800 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, oh yeah? Did you for Australian Idol? 801 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: I did audition for Just Quietly. I did Helly's podcast. 802 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: There was so stod he for not I love him. 803 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: He wrote a quote for Stevie one like I just 804 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: love him and he goes to be because it was 805 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: his podcast is about movie? 806 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: What did he get you to watch? 807 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: He goes, what's your favorite movie? And I go High 808 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: School Musical two? And he was like, couldn't tell if 809 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: I was. 810 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Kidding on what did he make your review? You know? 811 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: Morris gum, Oh that's a good I've never seen it 812 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: until last year. 813 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: Great soundtrack too, But it's unbelievable. Have I never seen this? 814 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: Is like unbelievably Like cinematically it's extraordinary. The storytelling is nuts. 815 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: It's it's like an og American but also like we're 816 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: sitting here in Disneyland. I've never seen Star Wars. I've 817 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: not seen Star Wars either. I met a light sob yesterday. 818 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: Oh great, okay, great, yeah, that makes me feel so 819 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: much better. 820 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: Right as I was leaving the park yesterday, they were like, 821 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: Americans are so patriotic. I just burked just leaving, and 822 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: they were like ladies and gentlemen, the American man, thanks 823 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: to America, the American America, America loves American band with fries. 824 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: It was just like the sophomore junior, junior year, senior prom. 825 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: Yes, do you know what though? 826 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: Like McDonald's Burger King band. 827 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: It's so so patriotic. But I want to say, I'm 828 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: fully drinking the American aid, Like I want to buy 829 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: a ranch in Montana, legit, like the first Money got 830 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: an American film. I'm like, I'm going to buy a 831 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: ranch in Wyoming near Kanye or Mount Montana. I don't mind, 832 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: I'll take either. I love it. It's just I love 833 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: it too. I love it. I think it's cool that 834 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: they're so patriotic. I think it's cool that older country too, 835 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: like history, yes, witch like, and they've got like their 836 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: own thing going on here and they just I think 837 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: it's I don't know. 838 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: They're very nice people to verystic optimistic. You come over, 839 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: you do an audition, They're like, you're amazing. You do 840 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: it at home and everyone's like, probably didn't get that one, 841 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they just it's it's 842 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: it's I like the entertainment industry over here is I 843 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: don't know, They've got more stuff going on. It's more opportunity, 844 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: it's more diverse, different people being told. 845 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: The combo of both. Like I love being an Aussie 846 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: and Aussy and I love being an Aussie in America. 847 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: I love boast of both worlds. 848 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: I think it's easy for us to do an American 849 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: accent in a way, but it's really hard for them 850 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: to do an Australia. It's like we actually have it, 851 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: you know out Yeah, I know what you mean, because 852 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: I love Australia me too. I'd love to live over here. 853 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: But I love Sydney so much. I love Newcastle, I 854 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: love Woole and Gong, I love I love Allbree like 855 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: I love regional Australia so much. 856 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Is that because of the radio, like coming up in 857 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: the radio ranks and moving around and. 858 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just realized how amazing Regional Australia is. 859 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: It's my greatest inspiration. Stevie two is set in a Westfield. 860 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Can we take a love? I love it so much 861 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: for you asked a question before I didn't answer. No, Well, 862 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: I just I'm so glad you said regional because Tracy 863 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Harrison from Bathroom I did. 864 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I play this character. If you if you're like 865 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: just tuned in, why would you have tuned in midway? 866 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Wow? By radio? Right? 867 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: You know you're in radio. You reset the interview three 868 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: or four times, do you? 869 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 870 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: So if you're interviewing like Tom Cruise, not that I 871 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: ever have because I did radio and camera, but we 872 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: did get Jess Malboy forty eight times and Justice Cruise. 873 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: So calm down, everyone. We you know, if you if 874 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: you're listening in the car, people are tuning in at 875 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: random times, so in the middle of the interview, it 876 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: might be like, so anyway Jess Malboy, oh wow, So 877 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: you'll be like, oh, that's so cool that you did that. 878 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 2: I love that Jess mail Boy. We're talking to her 879 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 2: right now. 880 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, Well I haven't done that once. Podcasting is 881 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 1: it's a different skill. 882 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: Set, Yeah, listen differently, and it's I mean, it's kind 883 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 2: of taken over, isn't it. 884 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 885 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: So Tracy is this character I do from Bathist and 886 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: I went to UNI and Bathist and during COVID, I 887 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: got really bored and I thought, wouldn't it be cool 888 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: if I could pay homage to all the towns I've 889 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: lived in? So I was going to do a hairdresser 890 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: in Bathist who's forty seven years old, recently divorced, with 891 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: two children, like two adult children, and it's just very 892 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 2: very like she loves mince and she loves a cheese bowld. 893 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: She's got a friend called Lynn whose husband's buried the 894 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: backyard and I loved his like three, She's like very cool. Yeah, yeah, 895 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: it's just like insane. And then I lived in Griffith 896 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: and I thought it would be fun to do like 897 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 2: a butcher in griff Yeah. 898 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: And then I lived into. 899 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: Woomburo do it to Florist, and I was gonna do 900 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: all these characters, and then I kind of got really 901 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 2: stuck on Tracy, and then I didn't move past it. Also, 902 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: then COVID's kind of finished, and like, you know, oh, 903 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: you've bought me so much I love Tracy's Rumbles. Oh, 904 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: Tracy's Rumbles. You know. The cool thing about Tracy's Rumbles 905 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 2: is it was a sponsored video for Uber and getting 906 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: a brand to not only buy the Tracy Harrison experience, 907 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: but like back it, they had no edit notes. 908 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you want go wild? My favorite beers where you're 909 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: bought pouring the condensed milk and you're like trying to 910 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: stop yourself from having a sip because it's like pouring out, 911 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my gosh, relatable. 912 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, you know, when we'd have 913 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 2: no sugar in the house, I would eat the sweet 914 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: and condensed milk. And one time, which is so grows 915 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: it's such a fat kid thing too, when as a 916 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: kid I sliced my mouth open on the tiny Yeah, yeah, 917 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: of course yeah, And ever since then, I've been terrified 918 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 2: of it. So that was the first time I opened 919 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: a can. 920 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: Of sweet condense milk since. And oh but still I 921 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, I could still go it. 922 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: Even though it was so the hospital split my tongue open, I. 923 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: Could still go it again. The visual I'm getting right now, 924 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: the split tongue on it child mad. Sorry there's a 925 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: trigger warning there, so Okay, I've got I've got a 926 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: quote of yours that I'm going to read back to you. 927 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: I hope it's a good one. It's not like we're 928 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: undies and change them regularly. 929 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Well, we just got the audiogram from that, so thank you. Okay. 930 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: So I love this so much because I've said this 931 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: about myself as a nutritionist. I've said this about myself 932 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: as an actor. So I was always okay, I was okay. 933 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: I was always like, I'm not going to be the 934 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: best radio announcer, but I'm always going to be the 935 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: one that works the hardest to try and be the best. 936 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 2: That's true. 937 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: And is that kind of your work ethic? And I 938 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: know you've got like a phenomenal work ethic. But I 939 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: do think hard work trump's talent. 940 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: I do think it too. I think you've got to 941 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 2: have think you good have both. But I know so 942 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: many talented people who aren't in the sphere that I 943 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: live in. And it's not because they're not like they're 944 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: better than me. It's just that I'm I will outwork them. 945 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: I love that. I love No. I love that you 946 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: say that. I I it like when I've been listening 947 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: to you, when you say it. I'm like, oh, yes, 948 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: because sometimes I need you need to hear that, because 949 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: this industry is an industry of rejection after rejection, after no, 950 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: you're not good enough or yeah. And I think knowing that, okay, well, 951 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: you're going to hear those a. 952 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: Lot, and I still hear a lot of nose. And 953 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: I think there's this perception that like, oh, you know, 954 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: but you're this and you're that. We see you on 955 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: Instagram and you know, you have a books and stuff, 956 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 2: and it's like yeah, but like some of them don't 957 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: soel particularly well and oh, mate, you know that I've 958 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: been pitching TV shows. They get rejected so often, like 959 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, make us management dump me, and you know, 960 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: like it's hard, it's it is hot, it is no, 961 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: it's so hot. So with all the what to keep going, 962 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 2: you know, there's so many days that I just go, 963 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 2: I don't. I can't anymore. I'm so tired. I'm sick 964 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: of the rejection. I'm sick of the hours. I'm sick 965 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: of the vulnerability. I'm sick of being on camerad I'm 966 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 2: so fat at the moment, I feel so big at 967 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 2: the moment. I don't want to be filmed. I don't 968 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: want to be looked at. I don't be funny today. 969 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm tired. I hate what's going on personally for me. 970 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: It's really hard to manage myself. But I I just 971 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 2: have this friggin' fire or this like tiny little voice 972 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: inside of me that just won't die, and I've tried 973 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: to put it out so many times and it just keeps. 974 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: It's just like it just can't be unlit. And I 975 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: wish it would sometimes. I wish it would extinguish because 976 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 2: it would make my life easier. 977 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: But it's like in yoga, not to like get all 978 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: hippie dippy and please I love it. But there's this 979 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: word called dharma and it's like your life purpose and 980 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: that's what you're meant to come back like no matter 981 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: what you do. And like, I don't know if you 982 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: know any of my history. I got histories of eating disorders, 983 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: body this morphia, and I wouldn't even film. I'd be like, 984 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: fuck this. I'm ten kilos more than what I want 985 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: to be. I know I look crap, and I know 986 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: it shows in my face and then that shows more 987 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: on TV. And you know you look bigger on TV. Sometimes, 988 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: you know there are all these things, and then you 989 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: know that then you're not confidence, so you probably don't 990 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: feel like you're going to be presenting as well. And 991 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: it's just like it's such a cycle, such a it 992 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: will come back to third therapy because therapy is the 993 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: one thing that like has helped me get out of 994 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: my own way and put my own shit aside to 995 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: honor the work. And I just yeah, and I think 996 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: you are like so frigging phenomenal and I love love 997 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: your work ethic and I love that that spark never 998 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: goes out for you. I really do. 999 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: And maybe that's what I meant at the beginning in 1000 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: her you were like, oh, you know, did you just 1001 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: try a bunch of stuff and see what's stuck? And 1002 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 2: I think I'm having trouble answering that question because I 1003 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: don't know, but I think it's like maybe knowing that 1004 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: there's a word, that dharma word you said. Maybe it's 1005 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: just that I was trying to honor the dharma in 1006 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: me and kind of figure out what it was because 1007 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 2: I reckon I'm a new soul, you know how. There's like, 1008 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, people have past lives. 1009 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I have, but. 1010 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: I feel like an idiot because I look like so 1011 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: many mistakes. I reckon, I'm the newest of souls, like 1012 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: this is my first time here, like I wasn't. Yeah, yeah, 1013 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: because I'm just so. 1014 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: I always say to it when I was like doing 1015 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I've done heaps of like spirits regression. Yeah, I've done 1016 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: all the regression. And I'm like, oh, I'm an old soul. 1017 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: What an ego to say that, Like, oh I must 1018 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: be an old I used to tell people that I 1019 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: was an old soul. What an idiot? 1020 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: But do you not think it rings true with everything 1021 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: we've been saying during this conversation that I'm like, oh, 1022 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: you seem like a like an older thirty six years 1023 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: like a younger thirty six Is it just because maybe 1024 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 2: you are an actual old soul and I'm a new 1025 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: soul mate, But I don't know. I want to go 1026 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: down this esty I love, but I do, like I do, 1027 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 2: make a lot of misteaks. 1028 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, And I'm so glad do you say that? 1029 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: Because so do I? And like I think I was 1030 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: saying to you're on the elevator right up here, like 1031 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: I checked one of the online submission forms I've submitted 1032 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: in ten weeks one hundred and eighty auditions that haven't 1033 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: got one. And you're like, that's amazing, and I'm like, yeah, 1034 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 1: that's a lot of wrech. That's a lot of constant 1035 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: nos in acting world. You don't even get to know. 1036 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: You get donuting. 1037 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely another Donuts is worse, actually, isn't it. 1038 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: I would much rather expect we need a brunette. 1039 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: Thanks, you're too thin? Yeah, I've never got that one. No, 1040 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: but get you're too young? 1041 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: I thank you. Yeah that is great. I got too 1042 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: old since I've been here totally. So I think that's my. 1043 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I need to go for like older characters, because 1044 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: if you go for a Grandma too young, yeah, you 1045 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: know what I mean, you go for a you know, 1046 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: Cadava elderly Kadava too young. The way is, but like, what, like, 1047 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: what's your dream role? 1048 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: Honestly not a word of a lie. And it's like, 1049 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: it's crazy to even say this because it's never existed 1050 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: for a female ever. This is why you say it, 1051 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: This is why you do it. Dama, Dama, dama. Right, 1052 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: Steve Colbert hosting a late night show in Americas. Right, 1053 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: female has never done it? Well, Lily Sing did it really. 1054 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a YouTuber but she did late late so 1055 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 2: I've been watching it over here because I've been finishing. 1056 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. 1057 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 2: Lily said, Yeah, I don't know if my god, okay, 1058 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 2: but she's you know, queer poc. Yeah, amazing comedian YouTuber. 1059 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: And she is the thing you need to be, like, 1060 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: you need to be a comedian or have the chops 1061 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: that you've got. You've got these amazing comedic bones that 1062 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm funny sometimes yeah, but all the time. 1063 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 2: But I don't think, you know, you've just got your 1064 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: own gifts. So maybe your show is like a late 1065 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 2: night show that's got ur essence in it. So maybe 1066 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: it's like more of like an Oprah at night. 1067 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: Not o, you know, something like. 1068 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: Or more you know, like the world will change eventually 1069 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: from all having all the men and white men and 1070 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll have you know, a more female centric 1071 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 2: there's a bit softer and a bit more you know. 1072 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: Sold. 1073 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't think that that's a wild dream. 1074 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 2: I think that that's a cool thing to want, mate, 1075 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: and you should. 1076 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm running at it. I'm running at it. I'm running. 1077 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you run, keep run running. Someone told me once 1078 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 2: and they actually passed away. 1079 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: A couple of years back. 1080 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: He said to me when I was fourteen, He said, 1081 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 2: I said, should I pick a kind of teacher because 1082 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 2: I want to be a drama teacher? Yeah, and he 1083 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: goes no, because it's your backup and you'll fall on 1084 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: the backup. But if you don't have a backup, you've 1085 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 2: got nowhere to fall. 1086 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: I love so, like, do you know? I said to 1087 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: my therapist, and this is I've still love my nutrition 1088 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: and all the health stuff I've done, But I said 1089 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: to him, like probably too years into therapy. I was like, hey, 1090 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: had an epiphany and he's like yeah. I was like, 1091 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been leaving my backup career. I was like I 1092 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: always wanted to be an actor and work in television, 1093 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: like literally anchoring yep. And every time I'd go for 1094 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: an anchoring audition in Australia, they're like, oh no, no, no, 1095 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: you're the health segment girl. You're a segment girl. 1096 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: It's really hard to rebrand as I'm currently trying to 1097 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 2: rebrand as a lingerie model and not kidding, I would 1098 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 2: never have you ever even seen my neck, Like I 1099 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: I hate showing my. 1100 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 1: Po I have done a nude photo here. Yeah, photo 1101 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: shared for Women's Health. Oh my god, that's so full 1102 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: blown nude starkers. Wait are you open legged? I was, 1103 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I wasn't. 1104 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 2: I mean, that's porn, isn't it? 1105 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: It is? 1106 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, So is it tasteful? 1107 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: It was? Yeah, but it was it was hard and 1108 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: it was sexy? Or is it more like I probably 1109 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: was going for it, but I was so nervous. I 1110 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: was going for sexy, but I would have been noticed. 1111 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: I did have a tiny little nude colored Oh yeah, yeah, yah, 1112 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: I would have done the same. But other than that, 1113 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: you've got someone lathering up and the whole crew was male, 1114 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, and I had a wind blower 1115 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: on my head. Oh that's hot. Oh I bet you 1116 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: looked amazing. 1117 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: When's it coming out? 1118 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: It's feed, it's feed, and god when years ago it? 1119 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: I'll send you a snap. I'll send you a nude 1120 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: shot after this, mude. I worry for you. It's like, 1121 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: you're going on how ustrailiing? Can I sound over here? No? 1122 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: My boyfriend will be like trying to like sexy face 1123 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: times with me. I was like, oh, you're going to 1124 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: get nude and he's like, you always ruined this true. 1125 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: His erection just goes. Matt is going to love you, 1126 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: by the way for saying that. Okay, final final question. 1127 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day. This is your 1128 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: final Yes, ma'am. Do you ever experience imposter syndrome? And 1129 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: if so, how the f do you deal with it? 1130 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: Every day? 1131 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: Like I was just at a Starbucks and the chick 1132 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: recognized me and I just like almost had a full 1133 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: blown meltdown because I was like, by you're presy. She 1134 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: gave me, she gave me some egg bites, and she 1135 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: gave me that drink over there. It's like a like 1136 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 2: some sort of refresher looks healthy, you know what I mean? 1137 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: Something is fluro you go health? Uh put that inside 1138 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 2: of your body? 1139 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1140 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I do all the time because during COVID 1141 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: I did a lot of TV shows. 1142 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: I did like. 1143 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 2: Celebrity Letters and Numbers and I did I did five 1144 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 2: episodes of that and like Dyslexics was really hard. Number 1145 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: Dyslexic gotcha? And then I did the hundred with Andy Lee? 1146 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: I did what else did I do? 1147 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: I did you did? I know that was in Lockdown, 1148 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, I did I'm a slab. 1149 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did all these TV shows. It's really strange 1150 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: to be sitting next to like Andy Lee asked me 1151 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 2: to do his show, and I've been listening to Andy 1152 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 2: Lee my whole life, and then I've got to be 1153 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: on stage and be funny with him. And he's saying 1154 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 2: my name, and my name's on a screen and you 1155 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: know it's what I'm sitting next to whipper and like 1156 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: the radio, I'm a radio person, right, so I'm sitting 1157 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 2: next to you. 1158 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 1: Very funny too, what's so funny? I did a pilot 1159 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: co hosting with him, did you. Yeah? I was so nervous. 1160 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: I go there. I fucking loved it. But I've done 1161 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: it with Limo too. I've done a lot of talent 1162 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: a Meetian guys and Lima was like, let's throw the 1163 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: script out and I was like, oh, okay, I'd learned it. 1164 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: Could we not Let's have a conversation about it. Yeah, 1165 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: And it was just wild to, you know, sort of 1166 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: sit next to these two, like, in my opinion, gods 1167 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: of radio equal in a way. Yeah, and uh, And 1168 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 2: to be the only girl on the stage is kind 1169 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 2: of intimidating. And to be like, remember why you're there 1170 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, am I funny? 1171 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: What am I doing here? And you know, I was 1172 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: like I don't know how to feel in those situations. 1173 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 2: And like the episode before was like like, so Hamish 1174 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 2: was there, Becky Lucas, who I think is fierce as there, 1175 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they were all in the green room 1176 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 2: and I just didn't feel like I could go in there, 1177 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 2: so I sat by myself in the wardrobe room. 1178 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, I eventually went in, but I had to 1179 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: like genuinely. 1180 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 2: Psych myself up to get in there because I was like, 1181 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 2: my god, I love these guys and I don't want 1182 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: a fangirl them. 1183 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: What about after like after something like that, and then 1184 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: you kind of like on a bit of behind and 1185 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I just did that thing that was 1186 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: really scary and I had imposter syndrome. 1187 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think the only way to work through 1188 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: it is just to is to kind of downplay it 1189 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: is the only way I know how to do it. 1190 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: So just to like pretend, pretend like you belong there 1191 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: and pretend like it's easy, or find an excuse to 1192 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 2: go into that room. Oh wow. 1193 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you guys have to read us 1194 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: in here. 1195 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 2: I think that's how I got into the room because 1196 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 2: I just I wanted to be included, because I knew 1197 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 2: that if I wasn't, it would make my job on 1198 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 2: stage harder, of course, and it also to them might 1199 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 2: read as Tania doesn't want to be with us, Tanya 1200 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: thinks she's better than nuts, which is like beyond this, 1201 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm dying, yeah, going, I don't deserve to be you know, 1202 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 2: But it's also like I do deserve to be here. 1203 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 2: I'm thirty six years old, I've worked really hard, I 1204 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 2: am funny, i am different, I have a really unique voice. 1205 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm a woman, and I'm a you know, plus sized woman. 1206 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 2: I need to be on this stage. And so sometimes 1207 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: you do it for more, more things than just you. 1208 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: And I think if you ever do something in service 1209 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 2: to someone else, it is always the push to get 1210 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: you to do something. So I you know, if someone goes, oh, 1211 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: you're nervous for your stand up, so it's like fucking oath. 1212 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 2: I was nervous, But I don't want my audience to 1213 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 2: know I'm nervous, because then they're having an uncomfortable experience. 1214 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 2: What can I do in service to you to make 1215 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: then you stop thinking about yourself and you start thinking 1216 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 2: about what you're doing and what it's for. If I'm nervous, 1217 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm not going good comedy for the audience. I'm nervous, 1218 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 2: I'm not creating a comfortable environment for you to laugh. 1219 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: Totally. So I feel like the arts's totally I think 1220 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: that's a really solid piece of advice to think about 1221 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: the people you're doing it and not yourself. Well, I 1222 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: think the arts is all for service. It's all to 1223 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: create a change in someone's heart. Really, Like again, not 1224 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: use that though. 1225 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: This industry is so ego driven and so like and 1226 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 2: how you look and mem but like, if you forget 1227 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: all of that and go, what's this for? So sometimes 1228 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: sometimes I really care about what I'm wearing. Sometimes I 1229 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 2: really don't because I'm like, I don't. I want to 1230 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: strip it all back and just be funny and just 1231 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 2: be good and give something great to this audience. And 1232 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: this freu through is fucking distracting. 1233 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: Me, oh big time. If someone was listening to this 1234 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: and now and they're like, oh my god, like I 1235 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: want to be doing what you're doing, Like I, yes, 1236 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: stop stop. 1237 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 2: Getting in your own way, hi, by the way, get 1238 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: out of your own way, and he's a great quote. 1239 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 2: This is an adult Swartz Snegger quote. 1240 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: I love this. 1241 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 2: I love this, he says. 1242 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: He says, you can either do it. You either do it. Sorry, 1243 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 1: that wasn't fucking quy. 1244 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: I know you either have results or here we go. Yeah, 1245 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 2: you either have results or excuses, not both, So choose wisely. 1246 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: That was about exercise. But I applied that to my 1247 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 2: career and I live. 1248 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: By that quote. I love it. I love it, I 1249 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: love it. 1250 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 2: I want to look back on my life and go, 1251 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 2: here's a bunch of reasons that I didn't do something. 1252 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: I I'm fully with you. I don't believe in having regret. 1253 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't neither do I. I really think it's just wasteful, 1254 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: big time and out what like what is your darma? 1255 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 1: Doesn't need to be the same as mine, But like 1256 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: if we crosspaths fucking cool, you know, Like I just. 1257 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: It's to be like amazing parents, beautiful like artists or 1258 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 2: you know, live in service to people who are disabled 1259 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 2: or need care. And it's like you are everyone is 1260 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 2: so important and everything that you do is so great. 1261 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: But it's like comparison is going to kill. 1262 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: You one hundred percent. One hundred million percent. You just 1263 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: got to do You work hard. Live by your Arnold 1264 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 1: Schwartzneger quote, which is, yeah, you can either have results 1265 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: or excuses, not both, so choose. Mate. You're amazing the 1266 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: local Ted Talk. Actually, yeah, big time. I should do it. 1267 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: Why haven't I been asked to do a Ted Talk? 1268 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: You should do one. Put it out there now, that'll 1269 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 1: give I'll think about that for a couple of days. 1270 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: Now they give you in a good laugh time like 1271 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: I think it's exactly seven minutes or something. It's a 1272 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: time speech. Yeah, is that? Yeah, you would nail it. 1273 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: Tell me if you do, I'll come. I'll come watch you. 1274 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: What if it's somewhere really obscure, Oh my god, it's 1275 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 2: the duble irssel if I'm in the country. No, no, no, 1276 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 2: you said you'd come. Don't put caveats on it. 1277 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: You said you'd be there. You're like you finally got 1278 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: the pilot for your teav and you're like. 1279 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 2: Lola's you know, sexy hour at one am, and I'm like, hey, 1280 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 2: I got that that Ted Talk double RSL. You said 1281 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 2: you'd come, and You're like, what's the it's if I 1282 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 2: don't do this, my dream won't come from it. Yeah, 1283 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: but you did say you'd come. 1284 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: So we'll get like a live cross on my late 1285 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: night show for you. So that. Oh mate, thank you 1286 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: so much. You're absolutely wonderful. 1287 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: No, literally, thank you. You're the one who's like, come 1288 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 2: to Anaheim for this. 1289 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: I'd do it again and a half, would you, mate? 1290 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: It took about an hour, twenty hour. It's not too bad. 1291 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: It's not too bad. It's worth it for you. Oh, 1292 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: thank you? My friends is heading your boyfriend's listening? Hang? 1293 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 2: Wait what all right? 1294 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: We are in a bed. We are, Let's just see 1295 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: where things go. Sign me up, sorry, sign me up? 1296 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: Fuck bye, thank bye bye. 1297 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1298 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 1299 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lullaberry. This potty my word 1300 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 1301 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rape and and of course 1302 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: spread the love. H