WEBVTT - Everything you need to know about Cyclone Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>the sixth of March. I'm zara, i'm emma. Millions of

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<v Speaker 2>residents in parts of Queensland and New South Wales are

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<v Speaker 2>bracing for the arrival of Cyclone Alfred, which is due

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<v Speaker 2>to make landfall early on Friday morning. Authorities are warning

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<v Speaker 2>the rare weather event could bring with it significant rainfall

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<v Speaker 2>and high winds. In today's podcast, we're going to explain

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<v Speaker 2>what we know so far, what's been done to ready

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<v Speaker 2>the communities at risk, and how residents can stay in formed.

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<v Speaker 1>Zara, As you mentioned, Cyclone Alfred is due to make

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<v Speaker 1>landfall later on this week, so later to day, early tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and the destruction that it may bring remains uncertain. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an ever evolved situation. But what do we know so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what we know so far is that cyclone

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<v Speaker 2>Alfred is currently heading for southeast Queensland. As you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's expected to make landfall either late tonight or early

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning around one am. It's expected to make landfall

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<v Speaker 2>as a Category two system in Brisbane, but the area

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<v Speaker 2>it's expected to effect is far greater than just Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>So the warning zone at the time of recording stretches

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<v Speaker 2>from Double Island Point in Queensland to Yamba in northern

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales. Now I mentioned just before that we're

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it to land as a category two system. When

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to categorizing systems in Australia, there are five categories.

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<v Speaker 2>What we mean when we say category two is that

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<v Speaker 2>we're expecting winds of up to one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four kilometers per hour. We're expecting significant damage to signs,

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<v Speaker 2>to trees, to caravans, and then also minor damage to homes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting because I think when we hear that

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<v Speaker 1>scale of there being five categories, you know you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven for thinking maybe a category two isn't so intense.

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<v Speaker 1>But imagining one hundred and sixty kilometer per hour windmen speed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's huge. It's unimaginable. That's incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and authorities have warned it could make landfall

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<v Speaker 2>as a category three, so it could be even more severe,

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<v Speaker 2>but that this isn't highly likely. They are expecting it

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<v Speaker 2>more around that category two level. However, right now, more

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<v Speaker 2>than four million people are expected to be impacted by

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<v Speaker 2>this imminent arrival of the cyclone. So that I think

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<v Speaker 2>talks to how intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly and a really densely populated area of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Southeast Queensland is a very densely populated part of Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it speaks to this apprehension that we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing right around the country as people kind of ready

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<v Speaker 1>themselves for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And I think it's also because we've known

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<v Speaker 2>about Alfred for a little while now. We first learned

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<v Speaker 2>of it over a week ago, some like nine or

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<v Speaker 2>ten days ago now, when it first started to form

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<v Speaker 2>in the Coral Sea, which is about nine hundred kilometers

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<v Speaker 2>northeast of Cannes, before it headed out to sea. It

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<v Speaker 2>then over the course of a couple of days tracked south.

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<v Speaker 2>It reached a severe Category four status east of Mackay.

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<v Speaker 2>But then just in the last day or so, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bureau of Meteorology has said that the cyclone's essentially done

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<v Speaker 2>it a bit of a U turn and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's now tracking for Southeast Queensland at that category two system. Zara.

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<v Speaker 1>You also mentioned though, that this is a cyclone expected

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<v Speaker 1>to impact an area that stretches from Queensland right down

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<v Speaker 1>to New South Wales as well, so across state lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. So we now have this situation that the

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<v Speaker 2>crisis is expected to hit some parts of New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales as well as Queensland. And to give you a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of how serious this is, New South Wales SES

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<v Speaker 2>Commissioner Mike Wassing said yesterday that emergency services are bracing

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<v Speaker 2>for three natural disaster events in one. There he's talking

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<v Speaker 2>about high winds, heavy rains and then flash flooding, all

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<v Speaker 2>of which is expected to occur almost immediately at once.

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<v Speaker 2>And so even before the eye of the storm has

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<v Speaker 2>even really been felt, there's already huge swells and high

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<v Speaker 2>winds already being experienced in some parts of Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One of the huge I suppose areas of concern

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<v Speaker 1>with this kind of a system is exactly what you've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to, that it's this triple whammy of winds, rain storms,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially some of these regions that have been so

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<v Speaker 1>ravaged by floods already this year and in recent months

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<v Speaker 1>around that southeast Queensland and far northern New South Wales area.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, flooding is another thing but we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other scale of damage, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>speaks to some of the commentary about this and how

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<v Speaker 1>rare A cyclone in this part of Australia is a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly unprecedented weather event. I've lived in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life, and I don't remember there ever being

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<v Speaker 1>a cyclone here. It feels like the kind of story

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<v Speaker 1>we often hear in the far north of Queensland or

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Territory or WA. But when was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time we saw a threat like this in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're exactly right to not recall it happening

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<v Speaker 2>in New South Wales recently, because the last time that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a cyclone that affected New South Wales was

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety. That's when Cyclone Nancy just brushed the

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<v Speaker 2>coast near Byron, So that wasn't kind of a full

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<v Speaker 2>on impact like we're expecting here. Yeah. The last tropical

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<v Speaker 2>cyclone to cross the southeast Queensland coast though, was x

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<v Speaker 2>Tropical Cyclone Zoe, and that was in nineteen seventy four. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>It is really unusual, and so you know, there's both

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<v Speaker 2>the intensity of the storm, but also then how we

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<v Speaker 2>regularly something like this does occur. And those two things

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<v Speaker 2>coupled together, I think are very concerning for emergency services

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<v Speaker 2>as they prepare themselves and ready these communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Yees, So there really is that sort of element of

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<v Speaker 1>the unpre and to nature of something like this in

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<v Speaker 1>this part of the country. What are the preparation plans?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have known about this for some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously meteorological advancements are so fantastic that now we do

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<v Speaker 1>have all of this build up to get ready. How

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<v Speaker 1>are residents preparing and planning to reduce the expected impact?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'll start first with Queensland and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>move on to New South Wales because of course we've

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<v Speaker 2>got two different governments of two different political persuasions, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take one by one. So in Queensland, residents were

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<v Speaker 2>first told on Monday to start preparing for the cyclone.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the time that included things like getting tinned food,

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<v Speaker 2>making an emergency kit, getting their passports together, and also

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<v Speaker 2>clearing debris from properties. You know, that was in anticipation

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<v Speaker 2>of the flooding, and whatever else.

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<v Speaker 1>Loose items, securing things that might be in your backyard

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<v Speaker 1>the exact flyaway and be hazardous.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, Queensland Premier David chris A fully said

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<v Speaker 2>that we are putting all preparations in place and we're

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<v Speaker 2>asking Queenslanders to do the same. It's important that people

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<v Speaker 2>take this event seriously now. Since that time, telecommunications companies

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<v Speaker 2>have been instructed to increase network capacity. That's in anticipation

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, increased demand if people trying to text

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<v Speaker 2>their loved ones, trying to get internet. Local supermarkets have

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<v Speaker 2>also been told that they need to regularly restock shelves.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already seen some items completely unavailable and like some

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<v Speaker 2>supermarkets completely empty. So supermarkets are under instruction that they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be restocking as much as is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>viable and possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard David Crucifie speaking to that point. And the

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<v Speaker 1>unique kind of advantage of the location of southeast Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>here is that ideally supermarkets will be able to restock

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<v Speaker 1>because access isn't going to be cut off in any

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<v Speaker 1>particular direction that you know, hopefully from the north and

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<v Speaker 1>the south, that food and grocery items will still be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Their way into those supermarkets exactly and At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>all Brisbane ferry services have been terminated, as have curbside

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<v Speaker 2>rubbish collections. I just thought that was interesting, like the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you have to think about as you prepare

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<v Speaker 2>for something like this. Very significantly, a majority of schools

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<v Speaker 2>across the region will be closed both today and tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>In New South Wales, some of those schools were already

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<v Speaker 2>closed yesterday, but in Queensland that is beginning today, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in terms of New South Wales the same is

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<v Speaker 2>mostly true in terms of that preparation, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>that the state's emergency Service will send additional personnel, equipment

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<v Speaker 2>and vehicles to the mid North Coast as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the northern rivers. And I do just want to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up on something you mentioned a bit earlier in passing.

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<v Speaker 2>You said that you know there are areas that have

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<v Speaker 2>been ravaged by floods historically. Yeah, and I do just

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<v Speaker 2>want to note that Lizmore, this city in New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales that was absolutely destroyed by flooding three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We would all remember the really devastating vision from that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Lizmore is once again in the firing of this cyclone,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, residents who had to rebuild and

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<v Speaker 2>have been continuing to rebuild their homes from the flooding

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<v Speaker 2>last time, are now being told that they need to

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<v Speaker 2>again prepare for the worst. And you know, the New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales government has recognized this, has recognized how difficult

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<v Speaker 2>this must be. We had Jihaddibb, who's the Emergency Services Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>saying we're cognizant of what the Northern Rivers have gone

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<v Speaker 2>through and some of the trauma that they carry. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sure a lot of attention will be

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<v Speaker 2>on how we can once again help the people of

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<v Speaker 2>Lismore rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Northern Rivers region has certainly been through it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard now Zara from the state government's Queensland and

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales a bit of local government council response

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<v Speaker 1>there too. What about the federal government. Have we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from them on cyclone Alfred?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have so. Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi appeared at

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<v Speaker 2>a press conference with the Queensland Premier yesterday. He said

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<v Speaker 2>that the Australian Defense Forces have been engaged and that

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<v Speaker 2>they're ready to assist. He also said that heavy lift

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<v Speaker 2>helicopters were being deployed to help with the situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the federal government was sending two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand sand bags directly to Queensland and to the government there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so those sandbags are helpful in extreme rain and

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<v Speaker 1>flash flooding events. People will put them up around their

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<v Speaker 1>shops and the houses to try and stop water inundating

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<v Speaker 1>those properties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And just before we move on, I did

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<v Speaker 2>just want to mention a quick tidbit and this is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not the most important part of this story, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do just think it's interesting given we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Alban Easy. Yep, this cyclone was actually meant to

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<v Speaker 2>be named cyclone Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the one. And that's because of naming

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<v Speaker 2>conventions of cyclones, which I don't know if people have

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<v Speaker 2>ever looked into, but it is a bit interesting. So

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<v Speaker 2>the way it works is that the Bureau of Meteorology

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<v Speaker 2>basically cycles through an alphabetical list that alternates by gender.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when cyclone Zelia hit that was the last

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<v Speaker 2>cyclone Australia experience that hit wa. It was a small

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<v Speaker 2>cyclone at the time, but when Cyclone Zelia hit, the

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<v Speaker 2>next name on the list because Zelia obviously starts with

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<v Speaker 2>a Z and was a female name. The next letter

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<v Speaker 2>on the list was A and that was to be

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<v Speaker 2>a male name, and that name was Anthony. However, the

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<v Speaker 2>Bureau did decide to skip that name because of the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister, because they say that they don't like to

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<v Speaker 2>name things that coincide with high profile individuals, and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>this cyclone is called Alfred and not Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so interesting, but obviously those quotes from the bomb

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<v Speaker 1>were that you know this, there is a precedent for

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<v Speaker 1>this with significant political cultural figures. Also, when I did

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive on the naming conventions, there are actually

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<v Speaker 1>two alphabets so that you don't kind of cycle back

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<v Speaker 1>to another name name within kind of a generation. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the two alphabets. Very interesting for people that

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<v Speaker 1>like learning out about that stuff. But back to cyclone Alfred.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, this is an ever evolving kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a system, a fast moving event, and we really don't

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<v Speaker 1>know yet how it's going to evolve. How are people

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<v Speaker 1>being advised to stay informed these communities in these impacted

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<v Speaker 1>parts of northern New South Wales and southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did really want to end on this note

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, obviously we are in information service and

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<v Speaker 2>at a time like this, getting the right information is

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<v Speaker 2>so so important. So firstly, and you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that applies to all situations, but especially a crisis

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<v Speaker 2>like this, it is important to seek out verified sources

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<v Speaker 2>and that means you know, going directly to emergency services

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<v Speaker 2>or local authorities to get your information, whether that be online,

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<v Speaker 2>on TV, however you are accessing that information online. There

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<v Speaker 2>is so much missing disinformation and that just flourishes during

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<v Speaker 2>a crisis. You know, bad faith actors tend to exploit

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<v Speaker 2>situations like this, and so it is really important to

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<v Speaker 2>go directly to that primary source. Local councils these really

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<v Speaker 2>really useful and reliable disaster dashboards. So most local councils

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<v Speaker 2>have these, and they include things like live warnings, evacuation locations,

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<v Speaker 2>latest road conditions, and so much more. And so it

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<v Speaker 2>is helpful to look up your local council and see

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<v Speaker 2>whether they do have one of these disaster dashboards because

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<v Speaker 2>they really bring together all of the disparate information in

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<v Speaker 2>one place, because it can be so overwhelming when you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get the latest but then you're getting all

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<v Speaker 2>this information at the same time. Authorities are also recommending

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<v Speaker 2>that people find or buy a battery operated AMFM radio

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<v Speaker 2>so that if the power goes out, which we are

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to happen. That's what a category to cyclone can create,

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<v Speaker 2>those sort of mass power outages. And so if you

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<v Speaker 2>can't charge your phone, having one of these battery operated

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<v Speaker 2>radios will mean that you can still get up to

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<v Speaker 2>date information, and I thought that's a really good thing

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<v Speaker 2>for people to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also a good kind of fall back for if

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<v Speaker 1>cell towers end up getting affected, if telecommunications providers can't

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<v Speaker 1>provide coverage in certain areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And I do just want to end on

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<v Speaker 2>the note that the ABC is really vital during times

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<v Speaker 2>like this. Local radio plays a huge role. They are

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<v Speaker 2>all over these emergency situations and are also best place

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<v Speaker 2>to be reporting on them at the same time. And

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<v Speaker 2>so if you are in one of these affected areas,

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<v Speaker 2>it is also a good idea to try and tune

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<v Speaker 2>into your local ABC radio station to also keep on

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<v Speaker 2>top of the latest information there.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of apps. There's a new South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales and Queensland sort of emergency hazard app will pop

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<v Speaker 1>some links to resources in the show notes that's such

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<v Speaker 1>helpful advice, Zara and really interesting information. Of course, over

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<v Speaker 1>on the Daily os we will be continuing to keep

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<v Speaker 1>a close eye on this one and we'll be updating

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<v Speaker 1>information regularly on our Instagram. And if you are listening

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<v Speaker 1>today in one of them, please impacted zones, please take

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself, Please look after each other and know

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<v Speaker 1>that you are in our thoughts over the next few days.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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