1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: On today's show, Olivia Rodgers unveils a solo edit of 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: her wedding video as she spells more details about her breakup, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: fans shopped as Northwest unveils alarming footage of her pet dogs, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and Anna Paul's lavish Christmas surprises. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I have to say sorry to 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: our listeners because it's only once a week. This week, 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I did make a bit of a ballsy statement that 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: we are going to be doing two podcasts a week, 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: just like we normally do, but we're still recovering from Christmas. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: It was very tiring, Amy, particularly for you. You hosted 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: us probably every night for the last three months. Yeah. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: So we had the White Party on the twenty third 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: at my house. The twenty fourth, I got the night off, 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: but that was I also was preparing for Christmas Day, 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: so then we had Christmas Night at my house. We 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: had Boxing Day lunch at my house and then also 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: a Boxing Day dittist. So I did not move out 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: of bed on the twenty seventh. But gosh, as you 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: get older, you just realize. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: The mental low women have at Christmas time. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about how as a kid, Christmas 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: is so magical and we absolutely love Christmas. But I 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: think we just got burnt out this year. Well, let's 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: be honest, the lead up to Christmas is always the 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: most amazing part of Christmas. 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: Ye. 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: I do feel like though, as women, we have to 29 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: organize everything and then your partner decides to go shopping 30 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: for your Christmas present on Christmas Eve. So Reese on 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. I'll give him credit. He did do a 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: bit of a food shop with me and we went 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: and bought the dogs there Christmas presents. And then he goes, oh, 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go take your car through the 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: car wash and grab a couple of bottles of wine 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: for Christmas Day. 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: I'll be back. Is that code far I'm picking up 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: your present. 39 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: No. So he had already got the gifts, but he 40 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: doesn't gift rap, so he went and took the presence 41 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: to his parents' house so his mum could wrap them. Now, Amy, 42 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: what was your favorite Christmas present? I'm putting you on 43 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: the spot. Hopefully it's one I gave you. I got 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of practical gifts this. 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: Year, so I got a lot of Lulu lemon tides. 46 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I got new shoes, I got a lovely per I 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: was really happy with what I got because everything I 48 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: can use in saying that we did have a laugh 49 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: because Reyes got me a shower caddy, and I think 50 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: it was too practical. I've never heard, really heard the 51 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: word shower caddy used so many times until I spoke 52 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, look, that wasn't my favorite gift. My 53 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: favorite gift would probably be my Frank green water bottle. 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I've wanted it for about six months and it's just 55 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: something I haven't bought myself. 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: I feel like. 57 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: Every girl got a Frank green water bottle, like that 58 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: was the it thing. Because remember when we were younger, 59 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: everyone got a scooter. It's like everyone got a Frank 60 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: green water bottle except me. I want to hear everyone 61 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: else's random gift, So let's put something up in the 62 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Facebook community. What was your most disappointing Christmas present of 63 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? 64 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: You're quite pretty. 65 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers has confirmed she was the one who left 66 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: her husband of seven months, Justin McKeehan, the former Miss 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Universe Australia, divulged more details about her marriage breakdown in 68 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: a Q and eight before Christmas. Now, Kate, what else 69 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: did we learn in this Q and A? Well, as 70 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: you said, it was the first time Olivia has confirmed 71 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: what we suspected that it was her that pulled the 72 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: pin on her relationship with Justin. So she said the 73 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: breakup was complicated and that there were many factors that 74 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: led to her decision. She also revealed that she will 75 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: begin to share more when she feels ready, And I 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: feel as Christmas got closer and closer, it feels like 77 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: she was more ready to drop some of those juicy details. 78 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if this was because she was around her 79 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: family at this time. You know, she was back in Adelaide, 80 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: around people who were supporting her and made her feel 81 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: a bit more confident. 82 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like. 83 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Christmas is a really emotional time and she was probably 84 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: reflecting on the year that had been. Now, Olivia also 85 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: made a very telling comment about her intuition. So she said, 86 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: my intuition is often right if I actually tune in 87 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and listened to it. I need to trust my gut more. Now. 88 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: When I read this, I thought that this was kind 89 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: of hinting towards the fact that she should have trusted 90 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: her gut more when it came to her ex husband Justin. Oh, definitely, 91 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: And I think the hardest bit of her q and 92 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: A was when she was talking about her fertility struggles. 93 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: So she explained that she would be a static to 94 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: be a mum one day, and she said one of 95 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: the hardest parts about the breakup and one she grieved heavily, 96 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: was that she was actually going through fertility treatment in 97 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: August and September after trying to fall pregnant for quite 98 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: a while. So Olivia said she hoped to share more 99 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: about her fertility journey in the future, but she's not 100 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: ready yet. This just really broke my heart. And the 101 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: timeline was very interesting because Olivia said that she was 102 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: getting fertility treatment in August September, and she broke up 103 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: with Justin in September. So I feel like something major 104 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: must have happened in order to make her come to 105 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: a decision like this. I mean, she did say it 106 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: was very complicated and that there were many factors, and 107 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: I feel like she is going to eventually tell us 108 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: what really happens. I'm wondering how she's going to tell us, 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Like will it be on her own terms in an 110 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: Instagram Or is she going to appear on a podcast 111 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: and sort of reveal the details about it, because I 112 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: know she's really good friends with Tully and Tully has 113 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: her own podcast, This is Tully Smile. Well, no, Tully's 114 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: podcast is finished up. She's not doing it anymore because 115 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: it's just taken too much time. I really liked her vodcast. 116 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I think that she'll do something on Shameless. I feel 117 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: like Shameless they seem to be pretty close with her, 118 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: and I feel like they would do a good job 119 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: at sharing her story. I mean outspoken the podcast, but 120 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: also do a great forum for Olivia to share her story. 121 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: I also felt really sad in the Q and A 122 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: when Olivia answered a question about her dog, Ziggy. So 123 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: people asked had she seen Siggy since the breakup, and 124 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: she said she hadn't seen him since September and that 125 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: she would have loved to be able to share Ziggy 126 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: with Justin. However, they just couldn't work it out. And again, 127 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: that's really confusing to me because it's almost like was 128 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: he using Ziggy as like emotional blackmail? Because if she said, nah, 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: this isn't working, and then he's like, well, I get 130 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the dog if you break up with me. 131 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: I reckon it could have been something like that. 132 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I know soph and Brandon, they always joked 133 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: that if they break up, the person who breaks up 134 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: with the other person gets to keep the dog. Maybe 135 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: they had some kind of weird arrangement. And then Justin's like, actually, 136 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I am taking the dog. Doesn't seem fair if, for instance, 137 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know what's happened, and we're purely speculating, 138 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: but that doesn't seem fair if Justin has done something 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: to make Olivia break up with him. Yeah. 140 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Now, as we. 141 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier, Olivia is in her hometown of Adelaide for Christmas, 142 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: and she shared a rather awkward story of her at 143 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: a family event. And I found it funny because you know, 144 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: people share things online and it would be weird for 145 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: family members to play along at home and watch what's 146 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: going on in this person's life, but then know the 147 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: full story going on behind the scenes. So Olivia shared 148 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: on TikTok that she didn't want to name the relative 149 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: or say what gender they were because she didn't want 150 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: to cause any family drama. And in this TikTok video, 151 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: she again reiterated that she was the one that left 152 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: her husband, and I just find it really interesting that 153 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: she keeps wanting to put that out there. So she 154 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: went on to explain in the TikTok video that she 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: was trying to work out if a family member was 156 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: joking or making a dig at her at this family function. 157 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: So this family member asked Olivia if she had thought 158 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: about getting involved in acting, and Olivia said, oh, no, 159 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: it's not for me, and then the family member goes, no, 160 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: I think you'd be really good at it, and she said, nah, nah, 161 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at drama at school. Then the 162 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: relative said, oh, but you've been acting so well for 163 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: the past four years. Now. Olivia and Justin were together 164 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: for four years, So do you think it was a 165 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: dig or a joke. 166 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 2: I think it was more of a dig at Justin. 167 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it was one of those you know, 168 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: when someone breaks up with somebody and then it comes 169 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: out that the families hated the person for four years 170 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: and being like, what do you see in this person? 171 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it was one of those kind of digs. 172 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a bit of a dig though, 173 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: because Olivia did have a very Lavish wedding in February 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and shared a lot of content about the wedding. They 175 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: looked so in love that it was such a shock 176 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: that they actually broke up in September. So maybe that 177 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: they're kind of making a dig about that and her 178 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: online persona. Maybe. I think though this family member would 179 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: have found out about Olivia's TikTok because it's been splashed 180 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: all over the advertiser hero in adelais I felt so 181 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: bad when I saw that Tyser is absolutely lapping up 182 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: the fact that Olivia is an Adelaide. 183 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: They're loving it. 184 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: And it cracks me up because I follow the advertiser 185 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and all the comments are either who is this person? 186 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: Or they're like, oh my god, you was disgusting trolling 187 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: through her life. It's so funny because during the last 188 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: couple of days, Olivia has just divulged so much information. 189 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: So on Boxing Day, Olivia surprised her followers by sharing 190 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: a special Olivia Edit of her wedding video to Instagram 191 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: and TikTok. So you may be asking what an Olivia 192 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: edit is, so basically, a couple of days before Christmas, 193 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Olivia explained that she had received her finalized version of 194 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: her wedding video back, and I was pretty shocked that 195 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: it had taken so long. I mean, it's a bit 196 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: awkward that the wedding video took longer than the marriage. 197 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: It was with ID Cinema, which is an amazing videography firm, 198 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: but they are known for taking a long time to 199 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: edit the video. I did like how she acknowledged just 200 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: how awkward this was to receive this wedding video. Oh, 201 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: it would be incredibly awkward. And did both of them 202 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: get link like a week? Yeah, just an edit of 203 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the video. 204 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 205 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: So for those who haven't seen the video, Olivia wrote 206 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I recently received my wedding video and it 207 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: was hard to watch with everything that's happened. I asked 208 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I Do Cinemas to do an edit that only includes 209 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: my family, friends and me, so now I can remember 210 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: the happiest parts of the day with the people I 211 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: love the most in the world. Here's a little ninety 212 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: second glimpse of the Olivia edit. Thank you I Do 213 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: Cinemas for doing this for me. This divided a lot 214 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: of opinions online because I saw a lot of people 215 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: were saying. 216 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: Yes, slay girl, Like yeah, the Olivia edit, and then 217 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,119 Speaker 2: other people were saying. 218 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Why would you put that up? 219 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Like, why would you want to remember that day? Look? 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: My first reaction was why the hell would you put 221 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: it up? And perhaps is it a sponsorship agreement? I mean, 222 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Olivia is pretty good at divulging when she has a partnership, 223 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: and she didn't put out or anything like that, but 224 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: she did tag I do Cinemas a few times, so 225 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: it got me thinking. But then again, maybe she did 226 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: tag them because they've been nice and gone back special 227 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Clay for her. I did love Kayla ad seen comment 228 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: on the video. Did you see it? No? 229 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: What did she say? 230 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: She wrote, Haha, dude. I literally said out loud, what 231 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: a boss bitch to Jay and showed him your video. 232 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm all for this. What a great way to remember 233 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: a day of family and friends. You look beautiful. Well, 234 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: it's definitely a big fuck you, isn't it. It's like, look, 235 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to take this very expensive video and I'm 236 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: going to keep it. 237 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: The thing is when you go to a wedding, although. 238 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: It is obviously about the couple and their love story, 239 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: a lot of the time is actually spent talking about 240 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the individual who's getting married as well, so I'm sure 241 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Olivia probably put a lot of time and effort into 242 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: planning this wedding. Yeah, as someone who is getting married 243 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: in twenty four days, I'm the one doing everything, so 244 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: it would be nice to have a video of the 245 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: beautiful event. I love that someone wrote get a lot 246 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: of solo content just in case with the pen and notepad, 247 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: and this was obviously someone planning. I love that a 248 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: lot of people were commenting that the Olivia edit had 249 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: a real love actually vibe to it, because remember Kira 250 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Knightley's character at her wedding day. 251 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: The friend that's in love with her just filmed shots 252 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: of Kia Knightley. 253 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Kura comes over to the house. It's like, 254 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: can I see the wedding video of parts? No? No, no, no, no, 255 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: And it ends up just being close ups of her 256 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: face and she's like, oh, I look quite pretty. The 257 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: thing is, as you said, Kate, I must admit, initially 258 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: I thought, why on earth would you post this? You 259 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: don't want to remember this day, But after seeing the video, 260 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, go it on. 261 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: You fucking put that up for Kim, it's. 262 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Really her decision, and no one knows the full story. 263 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: And also people don't know how they would feel if 264 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: they're in her position. It's really not a decision that 265 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: everyone would want to make. It's making a positive out 266 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: of a negative, isn't it. Yeah, well, Olivia did respond 267 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: to some hate. Someone wrote, but surely this is weird 268 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: for you to watch a video of yourself on a 269 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: marriage that didn't work out in the end. What happy 270 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: memories are there, Olivia replied, I had a happy day 271 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: surrounded by my friends and family. It was weird to 272 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: watch the video with him in it, but without him, 273 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: it's just my favorite parts. She's the least exciting to 274 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: look at. Kiushian is under fire after a video showing 275 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: her pet Pomeranians fenced up in a garage went viral. Amy, 276 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: can you tell us more? 277 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 278 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: So. The video was actually shared by Kim's daughter North 279 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: on their joint TikTok account, and it was entitled Christmas 280 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Time for the Dogs. So in the video, the family's 281 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: three Pomeranians, Sushi, Saki and Sober I've seen wandering around 282 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: in a large pen in Kim's garage. 283 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: The thing is, the dogs don't seem to. 284 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Be badly treated. They're surrounded by blankets. They've got weapads, 285 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: food and water, as well as some elf on the shelf, toys, 286 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: and even a small Christmas tree. However, many followers were 287 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: quick to label the video as disturbing and criticize Kim 288 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: for keeping her dogs in a garage when she owns 289 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: a sixty million dollar mansion. Now, I've got to say, 290 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: at first, I thought, what the fuck? Why is Kim 291 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Kardashian keeping her dogs in the garage? Well, do me 292 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: my dogs sleep in my bed with me, which you 293 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: told me you saw a TikTok video about dog training 294 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: and it's wrong to do that. But my dogs are 295 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: like family members. And I again was like, oh wow, 296 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: what's going on here? But we don't know if that's 297 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: where the dogs live all the time. I thought perhaps 298 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: they were put in the garage just as a precaution 299 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: while they had the Christmas Eve party. 300 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Well, the Christmas Eve. 301 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Party was actually at Courtney's house. Because I thought the 302 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: same thing. I thought, Oh, I bet they're having the 303 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: big Christmas Eve party. The dogs have just been put away. 304 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: However, the video was quickly. 305 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Deleted from North and Kim's TikTok account just hours after 306 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: which has led a lot of people to think, shit, 307 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: did they not want this vision out there? Because there's 308 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: been growing speculations surrounding Kim's dogs because they haven't been 309 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: seen on her social media account for over a year, 310 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: so many people thought that maybe Kim had got rid 311 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: of the dogs. But in early December, fans were relieved 312 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: when they saw the dog's names were actually featured on 313 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: their annual Gingerbread House. 314 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: So they're like, Okay, no, they have the dogs. 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Look for anyone who has dogs that have destroyed very 316 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: expensive pieces of furniture. Perhaps they don't want their very 317 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: expensive house ruined and put the dogs in the shed 318 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: when they're not there. I think the issue is that 319 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people remember back in twenty seventeen, when 320 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Kim got the dogs, she basically said she's not a 321 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: dog person. However, she picked up the dog sushi for 322 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: her daughter North and Courtney also got a dog for Penelope. 323 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember the episode. 324 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: It was called Honey, and the whole storyline was how 325 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: Kim was so annoyed at her puppy because it kept barking, 326 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: and that she just wanted to chill Pomeranian that would 327 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: just sit in her lap and that was honey. And 328 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: she actually tried to steal Penelope's dogs. She tried to 329 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: swap them. However, when she realized that she couldn't swap them, 330 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: she had to get in a celebrity dog whisperer to 331 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: train Sushi, and he told Kim basically that your dog's 332 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: bad behavior was due to the lack of structure and boundaries. 333 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if this pen in the garage is actually. 334 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: A way of training these dogs. 335 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: However, a lot of experts have come out on TikTok 336 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: and said, well, one, shouldn't the dogs be potty trained, 337 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: like why do they have weipads all around? And two 338 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: there was also criticism over them the fact that the 339 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: dogs were left with a lot of food. I don't 340 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: know if you noticed in the video that this huge 341 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: bowl of dry food, and someone said, well, my Golden retriever, 342 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: that's how much they'd eat, not a small little Pomeranian. Also, 343 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: you're not really meant to leave dog food out for 344 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: dogs because it reduces any sort of drive that they 345 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: have of you know, because I mean, my dogs are 346 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: very food driven, so we use them as treats to 347 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: actually get them to do what we want to do. 348 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: The whole piss Matt thing makes me think that the 349 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: dogs are in there for a long amount of time 350 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: and that they don't have access to go out to 351 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: a toilet. Yeah, I think that's where a lot of 352 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: the concern was coming from. The comments were scathing on TikTok. 353 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: One person said, why can't you have someone fucking train 354 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: your dogs so that they can live life and live 355 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: in your house. If you're a billionaire, you can provide 356 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: a better life than this for your dogs. Another one wrote, Meanwhile, 357 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton's dog has its own house, and another person said, 358 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm broke as hell and I treat my cat like 359 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: a king. It's the person, not the money. And to 360 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: be honest, I think that's where a lot of the 361 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: criticism was actually stemming from the fact that she's got 362 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: so much money to see these dogs shoved in the garage, 363 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and also it kind of seemed like the 364 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: dogs were just an accessory that they could just bring out, like, oh, no, 365 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't want you for the moment, so I will 366 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: shove you in here for the time being. Yeah. I 367 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: found it quite unsettling, and it's not like it was 368 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: an overly nice garage. Like you have a look at 369 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: some of the rooms in their house and they're absolutely insane. 370 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: They could have built a doggy daycare style of setup 371 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: with enrichment toys and also had people in there doing 372 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: stuff with the dogs rather than just shoving them in 373 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: the garage. 374 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure they. 375 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: Probably have someone that looks after these dog let's be honest. 376 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: And in terms of the shed, while it looked a 377 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: little bit bleak, I bet it's probably like warmed floors. 378 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't think these dogs are necessarily missing out. 379 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: But I actually did a little bit of a deep. 380 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: Dive on North and Kim's TikTok and I don't know 381 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: if well, clearly the media hasn't picked up on this, 382 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: but there's another video that North put up earlier in December, 383 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: and it shows really quick shots of their house and 384 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: there's another one of the dogs in the pens. So 385 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's actually an isolated incident. 386 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: It seems like these dogs are in there a lot. 387 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: However, think about Kim's house, how many people are coming 388 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: in and out for filming? 389 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: How many But. 390 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: If these dogs were trained properly, they wouldn't run out. Yeah, 391 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be running away from Kim Kardashian's house if 392 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: I was allowed to be in the other room. I 393 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: just think that Kim probably doesn't want them ruining the 394 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: aesthetic of her house. Because this is the same woman 395 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: who came out this week in a podcast interview with 396 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: Irl and said that she has a handbook for her 397 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: employees which states which colors are allowed to wear to 398 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: the office. Wow, okay, so other colors are going to 399 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: offend her. I wonder if these employees have a budget 400 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: for their uniforms. Well, she said that basically she lists 401 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: a color palette that is acceptable because she wants the 402 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: office to be calm and zen. 403 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: So her office is the. 404 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: Same color palette as her house. Basically, the same furniture 405 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: that's in her house is in an office. So she 406 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: said she doesn't want people wearing bright colors because it's 407 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: going to ruin her zen. I'm sorry, that is so 408 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: bloody ridiculous. Well, she did say that her kids don't 409 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: have the same rules, so she doesn't force her children 410 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: to have, you know, to wear specific colors. So she 411 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: said that one of their bedrooms is pink. At the house, 412 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: another one is a whole purple room. I actually saw 413 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: these on North's TikTok, Like, actually, everything in the room 414 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: is pink, and everything in the room is purple. They've 415 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: also got a dinosaur themed room, but she said that 416 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: they're the only rooms the kids are allowed to sort 417 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: of go in and mess. 418 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Up, whereas the rest of the house has to be 419 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: in the neutral tone. So Kim feels calm. 420 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Wow, all the poor dogs. I wonder if they're feeling 421 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: calm in the garage. Well, the garage is clearly their 422 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: space that they can be now. Just staying on the 423 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: topic of the Kardashians, the family held their annual Christmas 424 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: Eve party over the weekend and it did not disappoint. 425 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: It was held at Courtney and Travis's home, as I 426 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: said earlier, and they went with this incredible red theme. 427 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: It looked amazing, and I presume that Kim had hosted 428 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: because I saw a lot of the other guests dressed 429 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: in red, and then she was dressed in like silver sparkles. 430 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: I thought maybe she'd done that thing where the theme 431 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: is red, but then she stands out from the room. No, 432 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: it was definitely at Courtney's house and I'd never really 433 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: thought to have just a red theme because obviously we 434 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: always have the white party. 435 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: I had never thought it red or red would look 436 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: that good, but it looked so striking. 437 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, when you've spent millions of dollars on a party 438 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: and have a professional event, and I'm sure anything could 439 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: look good. Well, they had a red ball pit, they 440 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: had red balloons hanging from the ceiling. There was Christmas 441 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: trees everywhere. They even had Sea performing, who was joined 442 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: by Kim's daughter North at one stage. Did you not 443 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: see it actually showed her face because is that? 444 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Surprisingly, there were no dogs inside at this Christmas party. 445 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Poor dog probably having some turkey in the ship. 446 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 447 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it looks amazing. 448 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: With the bow TikToker. 449 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Anna pol has proved she's the Queen of Christmas after 450 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: showering her followers with cash and surprising her mum with 451 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: a big ticket item. Yeah, so I'm actually very envious 452 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: off this gifts. So Anna Paul gave her mum a 453 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: black BMW. It was a grand coup which retails for 454 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: about seventy thousand dollars. 455 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: A little bit better than a shower cafy look just 456 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. 457 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Now. This was a very special moment for Anna's mum 458 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: because she hasn't owned a car for twenty years. And 459 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: it was really cute because Anna drove her mum to 460 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: this oval where the car was set up with a 461 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: big red bowl around it, and Anna's mum burst into 462 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: tears when she realized it was for her, because she 463 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: originally had spotted it and said, oh, that's what I've 464 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: always wanted and thought it was for someone else, well 465 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: from Anna or just like a random member of the public, 466 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: just a random person. I mean, she's clearly been living 467 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: in TikTok Anna Paul World for too long. Because I 468 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know a lot of people that get cars for Christmas. 469 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: I feel it's just this influencer handbook though. It's like, 470 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: once you make lots of money, you buy your parents 471 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: a present that you film. Well. I think that's everyone's 472 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: dream to be able to spoil their parents and give 473 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: back what they've given you. And I do love the 474 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: fact that Anna does seem to be very generous with 475 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: her family and so her friends. I mean, last week 476 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about how she couldn't stop buying gifts 477 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: for her new group of friends, I think the nicest 478 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: part of this Christmas present is the fact that Anna's 479 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: family haven't always been wealthy, and she has spoken in 480 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: the past about how they used to live off just 481 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: thirty dollars a week and that they owned an old 482 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: van and used milk. 483 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: Crates as seats. So this is a huge turnaround for 484 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 2: the poor family. 485 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Oh it really is. And Anna went into more about 486 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: what Christmas used to be like for her and her 487 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: family growing up. Let's throw to what she said. 488 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: I know what it's like to grow up with no 489 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: money on Christmas. You know, my parents spent their last 490 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: twenty dollars on prawns so that we could up like 491 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: a nice meal. My brother and I we used to 492 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: wrap plastic bottles like orange juice bottles and put them 493 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: under the tree, so it looks like we have a 494 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: lot of presents like other families. So I know what 495 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: it's like. So I want to send five hundred dollars 496 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: to fifteen of you so that you can make a 497 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: nice Christmas for your children. I know fifteen isn't the world, 498 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: but I know they will make a difference to fifteen 499 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: families Christmas. So I'm really happy about that. 500 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: I think It was a really great that Anna shared 501 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: this flashback to what her Christmas is used to be like, 502 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: because it'd be really easy to have a look at 503 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: what she's got now and look at her amazing Christmas 504 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: on TikTok and be very jealous and think that they're 505 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: used to this sort of life when they're clearly not. 506 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: Well. 507 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: She did give back as well to her followers at Christmas, 508 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: so she launched a competition to give away five hundred 509 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: dollars to fifteen people. I mean, you could look at 510 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: that and go, that's really lovely of her, which I 511 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: genuinely think it was nice, But I know a lot 512 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: of people also thought, oh, is that just for engagement? 513 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: On TikTok, Like, people can be quite cynical about things. 514 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: It's hard because I understand that giving away money on 515 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: a platform like social media can seem a little bit 516 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: disingenuine because it seems like you're trying to push that 517 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: you're a really good person. Well, it's also because people go, well, 518 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: what are you getting out of it? Yeah, exactly, and 519 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: you do get engagement and positive feedback. But I do 520 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: genuinely think she's an influencer that has her heart in 521 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: the right place, particularly because she said she wanted to 522 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: choose mums in me and could help make their Christmas 523 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: special and considering that she has known what it's like 524 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: not to have much at Christmas, I do think it 525 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: was pretty genuine. Now, it was Mikayla Tester's first Christmas 526 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: since her split from Anna's brother Adis Paul, and. 527 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: It didn't seem like a very special day. 528 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: No, it seemed like one of those Christmases where everyone argued. 529 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like a lot of people can 530 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: relate to the fact that their Christmas is full of 531 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: arguments and awkward family moments. 532 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: Is it Christmas without a family argument? 533 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't think it is. But the good thing 534 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: is people normally come together on the day and get 535 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: over it. However, it appears not the case for Mikayla's 536 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: family because she's spent Christmas Day at the airport trying 537 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: to get back to Queensland after having a huge fight 538 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: with her family, and she said that she never usually 539 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: comes to her mum's house for Christmas because her family 540 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: is super judgmental and mean to her. And I'm assuming 541 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: that's about her being on only fans. Yeah, I'm not sure. 542 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it could also be just she shares so 543 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: much of her life on TikTok as well, and she 544 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: doesn't really seem to shy away from talking about fans, 545 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: family members, and issues. So what's funny you say that? 546 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: Because Michayla is one of seven girls, and she said 547 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: that two of her sisters really hate her, and she 548 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: claimed that one of her sisters actually slept with her 549 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend in twenty sixteen, and another one of them tried 550 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: to live off her and quit a job when Mikayla 551 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: started making it big on OnlyFans, So it seemed like 552 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of resentment going on amongst the family members. 553 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: How do you go from saying that sort of stuff 554 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: on TikTok to like walking into family Christmas? Well, apparently 555 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Michaela said that her mom was happy to have her 556 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: there for Christmas, but her sister said to her, Mum, 557 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: if Michaela comes to Christmas, we aren't coming. 558 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: That's really sad. 559 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: I know. Let's try to what Michayla said. 560 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: A said to my mom, if Michaela comes to Christmas, 561 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: we aren't coming. So my mom's obviously very hysterical that 562 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: rare coming in Christmas. Sorry, I had to leave and 563 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: now import. 564 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: And now I'm playing home on Christmas. She were my 565 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: three cards Now. Michayla explained that she was willing to 566 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: give her family one last chance over Christmas, but it's 567 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: not happening again. Maybe this is why she's so sort 568 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: of fixated on Attis because she wants that family in 569 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: her life, and it must be very tough for her 570 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: sort of splitting from the Paul family and then going 571 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: back and having this sort of Christmas. I do feel 572 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, you watch the Paul family, and I 573 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: mean the fact that the Paul's parents are split up 574 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: but still living in the same house. Like, it's a 575 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: very different situation. And I think it was quite refreshing 576 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: for Mikayla to share that Christmas isn't always so wonderful 577 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: because it is a really hard time for some people. 578 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: And you're go on social media and everyone's happy and 579 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: having a good time, but that's not the reality for 580 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: most people that mum on my Facebook, Big Piet, you 581 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: don't need to go so boring here. I'm just I'm 582 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: just talking on like, got ten thousand friends, just friends. 583 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Can you hardly know any of those people? Oh? I 584 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: know them? Kim's got one friend who doesn't even like 585 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: her Byron Bay Influenza Ruby Tuesday, Matthew caused to stir 586 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram after revealing she shaved her newborn daughter's head 587 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: to make her hair grow faster and thicker. Now with 588 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: someone who's got thin, short hair, I'm a bit envious 589 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: that mum didn't shave my head as a newborn. What's 590 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: going on? How is this even a thing? I know 591 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: it does sound completely bizarre. I thought it was just 592 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: an old wives twel but no. So Ruby made the 593 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: revelation on an Instagram story, and she framed her as 594 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: a bit of a mum fail. So She said that 595 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: she'd only had a few hours sleep the night before 596 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: because her newborn called Holiday, was up during the night, 597 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: and she was so sleep deprived the next day that 598 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: she'd forgotten that they had Santa photos planned and proceeded 599 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: to shave her daughter's head. She said the photo was 600 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: definitely one for the memory books because Holiday's head was 601 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: all patchy. I love how she just drops it so casually. Oh, 602 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I'll just shave my baby's head. Well. She revealed that 603 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: she's actually shaved all three of her children's heads when 604 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: they were four months old to make their hair more manageable. Well, 605 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: she's actually got very beautiful head hair herself. I wonder 606 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: if her head was shaved as child, maybe maybe when 607 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: I have a baby, I'll have to do the same thing. Well, interestingly, 608 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: there were mixed reviews, so some people were enraged that 609 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: she'd shaved her child's head. They just sort of was 610 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. But a number of other people said, well, 611 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I have actually shaved my baby's head as well, and 612 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: it's worth doing it. This is so bizarre and I 613 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: never thought we'd be talking about. Actually A hairdresser also 614 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: commented and said that this is a thing. This actually works, 615 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: but your baby just looks a bit weird for a 616 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: few weeks. 617 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: So it's like long term, short term pain, long term game. 618 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: It wouldn't look weird on the babies that come out bald, 619 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: but there's some that come out with like a full 620 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: head of hair, and you're like, oh, have you given 621 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: your baby a number three? 622 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: Is it? 623 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: Because like you know, when. 624 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: Your baby, when they have that really cute soft baby hair, 625 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's what you're shaving off because that sort 626 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: of doesn't that just sort of fall out or just 627 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: I have no way. Sorry, I sound so stupid, but 628 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that that's what they're shaving off and it 629 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: makes baby hair, yeah, and then start growing like the 630 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: thick you know adult. Heck. Look, I'm not sure if 631 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: there's much scientific backing, you know, let us know on 632 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: our Facebook page. I think that's all we've got time 633 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: to discuss about baby hair. This podcast was recorded on 634 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 635 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present, and don't 636 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: forget to join in on all the conversation on our 637 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: Facebook community, which has outspoken the podcast community. Tell us 638 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: what your most disappointing gift was, tell us have you 639 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: shaved your baby's head? These are the things we want 640 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: to talk about, and I feel like we forgot to 641 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: address the elephant in the room. Safie is not here 642 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: during the podcast. She is celebrating her anniversary, which appears 643 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: to be a day long thing, so that's why she's 644 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: not here. Happy anniversary to Sophie and Brann in six years. 645 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that time has flown by, hasn't it. 646 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy. Well, thank you so much again for listening, 647 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and if you haven't already, Please make sure you leave 648 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: us a review and gone follow us on Instagram and 649 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: TikTok at Outspoken Underscore, The Underscore Podcast