1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Well, our next guest admit society has come a long 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: way since he was forced to bribe a school bully 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: with an EMINEMCD. The Actors, social media influencer, and Dancing 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: with the Stars alumni believes we still have further to 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: go when it comes to accepting our differences. So Christian 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: Wilkins has written his first kid's book called Princess Mitchell, 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: about a little boy who loves soccer and wearing twotos, 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: which sounds like just the right outfit to go and 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: kick some balls. Christian Wilkins, Hello. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Hello, what an introduction? Can you introduce me to every 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: room I walk into you? 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it for you. 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh thank you? 15 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: So that told us about Princess Mitchell, because this, in 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: a way was kind of you. 17 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely. I was a little kid that liked to 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: dress up as a princess in two twos, and I 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: also like to play soccer, and I definitely felt like 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily fit in. I'd go straight from soccer 21 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: practice to Brent Street and do my ballet lessons and 22 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: my tap and stuff, and I'd have all my uniforms 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: in the car and a lot of the kids questioned it, 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and for some of them they were quite That's because 25 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: I think that that is sort of what kids often 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: turned to when they don't understand something, And so I 27 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: wanted to bring out this book because I felt like 28 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: there were probably other kids like me that were a 29 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: bit confused of their place in the world, and maybe 30 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: this could create better understanding. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Princess Mitchell, while playing the goalie in a game of soccer, 32 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: let's a goal go through by going to sniff a flower? 33 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was you too. This really was me. And 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: it's actually the park that we look down on from 35 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: my house, and Dad looked over to me and I 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: was just in a different field and I was picking 37 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: out a little flower. I'm sure it was a beautiful 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: flower of no regrets. 39 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: If you didn't have your dad being Richard Wilkins, if 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: you didn't have a family that supported you, how hard 41 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: would it have been for you to wear you two 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: to to be a soccer playing boy but also have 43 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: these other sides to you? Would you've had to hide that? 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: I think so because I think that still within me 45 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: as a teenager, there was a conflict there where I 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily know if I liked being It was a 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: really big issue for me because I felt like I 48 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: wanted this Disney fairytale wedding and I didn't know if 49 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: I could get that if I was gay. And even 50 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: though I was supported as a child, it was still 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: incredibly troubling. So I think that if I didn't have 52 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: parents like that from the get go as a little kid, 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I think I really would have struggled. I think that 54 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: would have been very difficult. 55 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Did you know you were gay early on or did 56 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: you just know you liked some of those things like 57 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: the two two and the things? 58 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely more just liking very feminine things, 59 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: And I suppose that sometimes does lead to it. Sometimes 60 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't lead to being gay. Sometimes you just really 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: do like sparkly pink things because they're pretty. Obviously for 62 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: me it turned out the OLPs it. 63 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting it doesn't for every kid. It 64 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: dresses up. 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and often it is just a phase and like 66 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: that's wonderful within itself exactly. And your dad, you know 67 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: as well, how did he go with it or like 68 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: did he like it wasn't overnight you suddenly said this 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: is me. Yeah, so he was always used to but 70 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: he's always been. I've known you guys for a long time. 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: I've known you since you're about sixteen, and I always 72 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: like that time. 73 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: When you're in the car. You're in Richard's car and 74 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: he tells him to change the clutch and the bat 75 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the greatest moments. We're 76 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: in the car park and I'm just watching you with 77 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a face of thunder and Richard sitting there and that, mate, 78 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: what you've. 79 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: Got to do is just He's always been very supportive. 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I'm also really glad in that clip, I 81 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: almost hit a man as we're droving down the street 82 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: and turned back and I was like, do not put 83 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: that in the video. 84 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: Well, Christian, we wish you nothing but success with this 85 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Princess Mitchell is available now from all Good bookstores. 86 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins Say hi to Richard, Forrest will do. He says, 87 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: high kids, fat, he loves. He gives us a big hug. 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Thank you so much.