WEBVTT - We're back baby! UTI's, kids on planes. Plus Choosing Life on Her Terms - Exploring Euthanasia with Allison Willcox

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. Wow, straight out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not just going to have any like little nuh hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Catch up?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a toenail like a little tonel?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, does your little toe have a fully formed toenail?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's tiny, way because look look at this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's rank? That's your question.

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<v Speaker 1>I have tiny, little fat toes, so like my toes tiny. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I'm asking this is because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a portion of the popular out there whose

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<v Speaker 2>little toe has been Yeah, it's just been beaten so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's had such a hard life.

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<v Speaker 2>My little toe has had such a hard life that

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<v Speaker 2>the toenail.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally doesn't grow anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean if you've been following along to the

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<v Speaker 2>pod for a while, you would know, or socials whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I've just gotten back from Bali, I got a foot

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<v Speaker 2>massage and I got my toenails done while I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got you know you did not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>calling bullshit. Get a refund because those toes have not

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<v Speaker 1>been done. Case you look at that toe. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>this beat. Wait wait, look she's trying to toes over

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<v Speaker 1>in Hinde.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop looking stoop shaming me for my toes.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the man was there and he was this lovely

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<v Speaker 2>Balinese guy similar age massaging my feet, and even he

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<v Speaker 2>every so often made this look like he was rebulsed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, ah, that's I.

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<v Speaker 1>Reckon, it's paying you pretend like you're enjoying it. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to your feet? Because you said you got

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<v Speaker 1>them done, They're not done. This is the fucking effects

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<v Speaker 1>of the milky foot thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I got them done and then literally days later

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<v Speaker 2>they're still shedding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because you don't wear shoes anyways. Also a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when we were made, like however we're

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<v Speaker 1>made by spontaneous combustion, God, whatever, when we were made,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he put us together and he starts

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<v Speaker 1>from the top down and by the time he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to the little toe. I feel like it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing he puts on the body and he's just got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing left. He's like I've run out of juice. So

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<v Speaker 1>you get this tiny, little smidgy toe. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think happens. I have like little chizzo stubs thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the big bank. Yours are not churio. Yours are more

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<v Speaker 1>like a German sausage, Like they're long and skinny.

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<v Speaker 2>That last one is like a little what's that small

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<v Speaker 2>little potato? What's that type of potato? It's a chat potato?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how was Barley harther than with your foot experience?

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<v Speaker 2>So this was my very first holiday with our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Bali for seven days without my children,

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<v Speaker 2>just with my sister and like one star from Tony Mate,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we worked. I feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 2>justify myself every time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you also don't like even if you went away

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<v Speaker 1>without work, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how dare you, as a mother have a life

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoy yourself without your children? How sacrilege? It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed my kids so much, like so so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was weird enough to side back. I am coming

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<v Speaker 2>to you today from Bali. No I'm back. I'm back

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio. I miss them so much. But it

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<v Speaker 2>also made me realize how much I don't like other

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<v Speaker 2>people's children.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a terrible thing to say? I think that's standard.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my kids. I don't think they're perfect. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like someone who's like, my kids are amazing. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else's kids suck.

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<v Speaker 1>You do tell me every day that your kids are

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<v Speaker 1>basically in mensa the genius, But no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when they're your own children, you just have

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<v Speaker 2>such a different level of patience for their shit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when they're your kids, you're like, Okay, I can

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<v Speaker 2>deal with this because I created you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are my.

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<v Speaker 2>DNA, and I am responsible for whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you do, and because you have to yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can just inside your body, there's a great level of

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<v Speaker 2>patience and everything else. And I guess, like I've said

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<v Speaker 2>this before, but I have. I was never someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was particularly maternal, Like I never had this overwhelming like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be a mom, I want to have babies.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I had kids, I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I love being a mom and everything changed about my life.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I'm away from my children and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be around other people's kids. Kids who I am

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<v Speaker 2>I have no connection with. I'm talking like strangers, kids

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<v Speaker 2>on planes and stuff. I realized that my patience for

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<v Speaker 2>other people's children is very low, which is not fair

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<v Speaker 2>because I would hope that some people are more patient

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<v Speaker 2>with my children, but I just don't have it for

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<v Speaker 2>other people's kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a really small special subgroup of

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world, like the child cares and teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, daycare workers, that's it, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually enjoy other people's kids. Otherwise, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're a minority like I think. I think the minority

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<v Speaker 1>is people that froth other people's kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I say this because so we flew to Bali.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, we flewp Balle. We flew Jetstar. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>small seat for six hours, and directly behind me there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a six year old boy and he had

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<v Speaker 2>brought plato on the plane. He was flying with his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe he was like five, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was young.

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<v Speaker 2>He was flying with his dad. His dad was in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle seat, and then he had his other brother

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<v Speaker 2>who was a little bit older, on the other seat

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<v Speaker 2>next to him, like next to his dad, and the

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<v Speaker 2>kid had put the tray table down and was playing

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<v Speaker 2>with Plato, but was like banging, that's banging the trade.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you could hear that from Afar,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was. He was really making a pancake. He

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<v Speaker 2>was really getting into the Plato making, which meant that

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<v Speaker 2>my a pancake. My entire seat on the plane was

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<v Speaker 2>reverberating the entire time, and every time he'd bang his

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<v Speaker 2>little fists onto the tray table, my seat would go

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<v Speaker 2>bud blud bud, and so I waited. I tolerated this

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<v Speaker 2>for a good twenty five minutes until eventually I turned

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<v Speaker 2>around and I was like, look, I'm really sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from parent to parent, I'm gonna parent down with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, could you maybe ask him not to

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<v Speaker 2>bang on the seat, and the dad goes, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>bang on the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, two seconds later, bang bang bang, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>this moment where I was like, fuck you for your

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<v Speaker 2>shitty parenting because he wasn't like the kid was obviously

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<v Speaker 2>occupied and it wasn't affecting the dart. The dad just

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<v Speaker 2>like he just went into coast mode and just let

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<v Speaker 2>it affect everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, how do you So did you

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<v Speaker 1>turn around again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and said it again, but this time to the

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<v Speaker 2>kid directly, which stop your little shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>And I and I said it exactly how I would

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<v Speaker 2>say it to my own children. I turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, can you please stop hitting the seat

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<v Speaker 2>or you're in that naughty corner? Yeah, and tastu.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He stopped for real five minutes then he started.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet it hits different when like, remember when you're a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you can push with your parents, but

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<v Speaker 1>when another parent disciplined you, it's cooked. You're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>listen because it just hits different totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just reinforces how much your own kids don't

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<v Speaker 2>listen to you. No, no, To be fair, this child

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<v Speaker 2>didn't listen to me either, So it was very similar

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<v Speaker 2>to parenting my own children.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do? Just let him kick you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for for five and a half hours, he kicked

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<v Speaker 2>the back of my seat. Now, actually he kicked it

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<v Speaker 2>for about three hours and then he had a sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>He had a nap, He wore himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm not good at confrontation, but I also have

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<v Speaker 1>really thin patients on a plane and for six hours

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<v Speaker 1>on that tiny jet star seat, I would have lost it.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up turning around, I think, in total, about

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<v Speaker 2>four or five times to say can you please stop

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<v Speaker 2>hitting this?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I would have asked me you stop hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>seat if there was another seat.

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<v Speaker 2>And three of those times was directed at the dad

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<v Speaker 2>and twice to the kid, which I think is an

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<v Speaker 2>excessive amount of time to have to ask someone to

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<v Speaker 2>stop hitting your seat.

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<v Speaker 1>The dad couldn't care less.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not give a single not one single fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he by himself, no mum, was traveling on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>He had already checked out of his life. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have telling if you've got a border plane

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<v Speaker 2>with your two kids and you're not co parenting and

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<v Speaker 2>you're got to do one hundred percent of it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I do not care.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot ask me to do anything right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>am not listening. I am surviving. And I think I

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<v Speaker 2>should have had more patience for him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, he was traveling alone with his kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for him. So he was probably just

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<v Speaker 1>like fucking small pos to pay like chicken cop this

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<v Speaker 1>for six hours?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the worst. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>They started with the two worst part, my feet and

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<v Speaker 2>my playing troop.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of that troop was bringing to people all

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<v Speaker 1>they want.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing, It was so amazing. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't about me. This is about you because I

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<v Speaker 2>read a Daily Mail article that you are going through

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<v Speaker 2>a heartbreaking period in your relationship. Actually, I will read

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<v Speaker 2>you the headline. Daily Mail wrote a really beautiful article

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<v Speaker 2>about britt This is the article Brittany Hockley reveals heartbreaking

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<v Speaker 2>news about new Swiss soccer boyfriend Benjamin Zerrust.

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<v Speaker 1>Bejaminam Benmin Benjamin don't have to go and your head

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<v Speaker 1>like goes like a little peacock. Sorry, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking news? Okay, I read this. I don't know you

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<v Speaker 1>told me. It's that makes it sound like someone's dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this yesterday and I was like, fuck, did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys break up? And you didn't tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I thought something bad had actually probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that would happen, like yeah, I just would go

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<v Speaker 1>into like the depths of depression and you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>come pull me out and you'd be like, what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like I didn't want to tell you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>You would just send me a text and then you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't answer your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany likes to be really dramatic in text message and

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<v Speaker 2>then she puts it on do not disturb and doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>answer because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I can't. I told you, I don't. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe me. I don't deal with this stuff very well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to tell anyone anything, so when I

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<v Speaker 1>have to, it's like I dropped the bomb and then

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<v Speaker 1>run away. So I can't deal with you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you do it in the most dramatic way possible.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be like, hey, so Jordan broke up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super depressed and I you know, my life is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go on and then you then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't answer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, fuck, that is not completely I broke up

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<v Speaker 1>with him, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Chaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do drop a bomb and run and then

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<v Speaker 1>I pretend I don't exist anymore because that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>deal with my problems. Okay, it's not healthy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we've done a lot, We've done four years

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<v Speaker 2>of self help on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But it hasn't really helped. Well, hang on, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the Brittany self? What is the heartbreak? I've told me it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think we didn't read it, so we could

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<v Speaker 1>be broken up or dying, and you just stop reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany's going through something really bad. I'll just check out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I knew it wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>This could have been the worst moment of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna tell you now. I'm gonna make you

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<v Speaker 1>read it another date. You'll have to read read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you say? This could be the

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<v Speaker 2>worst moment of your life. You look pretty good. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna see him for three months? I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, the article was anti climat Dick one hundred, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna see him for three months. I'm like, June,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be fine, You're gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually thirteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel heartbreaknant? As the article said, no to.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the longest we would have gone in the

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<v Speaker 1>last we would have been together fourteen months by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I see him. But in the last year, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the longest. It is a long time, like thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to then only see each other for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. It's a long time, most heartbreaking moment,

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<v Speaker 1>clickbait headline for sure, like I'm gonna live, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is really sad and every time I leave him definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gets harder. We had a really amazing time, but every

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<v Speaker 1>single time I go on holiday, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I get really sick. Now apparently this is a science thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Heaps people wrote to me saying it's like literally science

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, saying that's t when your body finally can

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<v Speaker 1>get sick, because you're like, oh, I'm going to stop

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<v Speaker 1>for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty actually covid Is that actually true though?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I had so many messages. I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was some study with someone and some persons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it was pretty accurate. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went over there a little bit unwell, like

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<v Speaker 1>I started to get a cult. But like one day

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<v Speaker 1>in I was great, it was gone, it was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I got three amazing days with Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>He got three days off.

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<v Speaker 1>We had three amazing days in Majorca and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like everything I could have imagined, everything I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful. Then we got back to Scotland and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had COVID. I think I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was basically sick the whole time. I know it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like that. I probably only showed you guys one

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<v Speaker 1>story set actually showing how sick I was.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was so shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my sister got it. She's still bedridden. Sherry's

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<v Speaker 1>been been ridden for seven days. And apparently there's this

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<v Speaker 1>new strain of COVID going around the UK. I think

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<v Speaker 1>fucking happens in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't want to do a test, didn't want to check.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't. I wasn't seeing anyone, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>sick anyway, Like I was just at home and seeing Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no point checking anymore. The flu's worse than

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<v Speaker 1>COVID these days, so they say. But I was just

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<v Speaker 1>really really unwell and that was most of my holiday, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it was. Ben didn't get sick, and he

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<v Speaker 1>told me he wouldn't. He's like, I've got this crazy immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a very rarely get sick. So whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>I got a few days either side that were really

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<v Speaker 1>really good. The start was really good and the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days were really good. We just chilled and

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<v Speaker 1>all I can think is like when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your holiday in Bali. I love Ben, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland's not doing it for me anymore. I am not surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's worth it because I get to spend

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<v Speaker 1>my holiday with him, but it means that every holiday

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<v Speaker 1>of my entire life I'm in it's somewhere over there

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<v Speaker 1>now and I'm still cold and rainy.

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<v Speaker 2>So how are you going to navigate this? Because, like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's been lots of talk about going and

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<v Speaker 2>spending prolonged periods over there, Like if you are not

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it as a place to be, how do you be.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it because I'm with him and my sister

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<v Speaker 1>was there, but it's more just the idea. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if I was there for longer periods it sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you'd be ducking over to Europe, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>be in Paris in like an hour on a plane

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<v Speaker 1>or an hour on a train. Like there are ways

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<v Speaker 1>to escape Scotland, of course, and Scotland's not all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that the weathers. You're never gonna enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're never gonna go swimming in the pool. They have

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<v Speaker 1>nice sunny days. But it's not like a hot summer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would just have to escape. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time with my best friends over there slash

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<v Speaker 1>my only friends, Eugene, Alex and Eugene Ben's gay neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>from next door. If you're new to the podcast, they're

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<v Speaker 1>Ben's best friends in Scotland. Now they're my best friends

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<v Speaker 1>in Scotland. They're Oh, they listen to this, they'll be angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to get it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Last time he said they're sixty five. They're sixty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they really?

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<v Speaker 2>Because last time he said that they were in their

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<v Speaker 2>sixties and they were offended.

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<v Speaker 1>So I no, I say seventy. It's Eugene's sixty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>birthday next week, so happy birthday, Eugene.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of them is a psychic. Eugene's a psychic.

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<v Speaker 2>So just so you know, Eugene is a psychic. Las

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<v Speaker 2>time went over there, not last night, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at Christmas time, she went over there and she saw

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<v Speaker 2>him and he said that Mitch and Mitch's boyfriend were

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<v Speaker 2>going to break up. And then literally three weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>Brick got back, they broke up. Yeah, it was a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>So Eugene was right. Yeah, I did tell Mitch Eugene

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<v Speaker 1>was a really famous psychic in Scotland and in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to like probably exaggeration, but he used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for like the FBI or something.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how you might see true those true crime

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries where they bring psychics in sometimes when they're really

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<v Speaker 1>desperate to try and find a missing person.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all see a medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he used to do that, and he used

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<v Speaker 1>to do rings for a lot of people. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also was a hospital worker, right, so he's very science

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<v Speaker 1>based but also besees things. Anyway, Yeah, he said about Mitch.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, Mitch's going to break up with his partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no, he's really happy, Like they've

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<v Speaker 1>been together for five years. That's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's going to happen. It's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>very soon. They're two different people and something, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>different directions and something's going to happen. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>broke up three weeks later or something crazy. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>this time we were having lunch and I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a reading because you know, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>that annoying person.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like, every time you see him, though, are you

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<v Speaker 2>like tell me what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see him, I look really deeply into

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes, waiting for him to like get it, receive information,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me anyway, receive nothing. He didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask him, and then he drove me to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport. They took me to the airport. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were driving me to the airport, and then just as

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to get it, I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>do not have to ask. I was like, did anything

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<v Speaker 1>come through for me this trip? He's like, you're fucking

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of the car now. He's like, no, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>came through. I was like, okay, thanks, but we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at lunch and he just went, you guys can't see this,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're just eating and he went and he got

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<v Speaker 1>like this hit and he looked off for a second

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<v Speaker 1>and then he looked at me and he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch's going to fall in love really soon. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh really, and he's like, yeah, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a relationship really soon. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like that's great. And then he kept eating and it

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<v Speaker 1>and he went got another hit and he goes, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he already knows him. So he said that Mitch's

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<v Speaker 1>next partner is someone that he's already met and he

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<v Speaker 1>already knows. Why does he get so many visions about me?

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<v Speaker 2>The vision about me for Fox too?

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's because he excuse me, what about me? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one there?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's because he's gay?

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe they read there's gay people better. Maybe gay

0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.360
<v Speaker 1>mediums get different energies from different people. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mitch comes through a lot with Eugene.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very interesting. Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>This just reminded me of something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's completely off topic, But when I was away and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have my own children and Matt was parenting

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<v Speaker 2>completely solo parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lie. He had his mum, but he was trying,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, we know, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent him a lot of messages being like, I reckon,

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<v Speaker 2>we should have a third kid. I reckon, we should

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<v Speaker 2>just do it next years. All the time I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I decided away. Yeah yeah, no, I know, And he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's really against him. He was really against the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, that's having a newborn sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking terrible idea, and I was like, we should just

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<v Speaker 2>do it. We should just like, let's just have one.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that you're back and you're sleep deprived again

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<v Speaker 1>and you got the kids, do you still think that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why where is this come from? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the last few, like they're shriveling up. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to head into early menopause soon, and they're like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go one more chance. Maybe let's hit it, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just this part of me that's like, maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>should have one more hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God correct me if I'm wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like a crack addict. If it wasn't that long ago

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt was like, I want another kid, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, well, cowboy, yeah, how to turn tea bush?

0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Because he took he took it off the table. He

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<v Speaker 2>said no, and I'm like, don't say no.

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<v Speaker 1>To me like that baby, you like a child, put

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<v Speaker 1>it in me.

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<v Speaker 2>So now he's like no, he did right back, and

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote fuck me a newborn and I read that

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<v Speaker 2>as fuck me a newborn, like like I should do me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, comma space a newborn? Question yeah, it said. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Punctuation is very important kids, Yeah, yeah, grammar is important.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, yeah, I think so. You still think that,

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<v Speaker 2>but not now, Like, don't go getting too crazy guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Like maybe like next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this doesn't excite me. It gives me exciting.

0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.240
<v Speaker 2>We have to talk about how it's gonna work. Anyway. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we've just had a little catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we haven't seen each other for the last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, but also we had a week off the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>So for us, this is just as much of a

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<v Speaker 2>catch up, is what it sounds like to you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, really, it's all real. We haven't heard it.

0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>So I also got a uti over there. Awesome, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it until the last day.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why you got that sex? You were

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<v Speaker 2>having such dirty sex. It's not dirty, No, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I take the back.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had very clean and hygienic I've had so many

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<v Speaker 2>UTIs in my last time. I've had a bladder infection

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<v Speaker 2>because it got so far up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what it is? It's because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have sex for three months and then I have enough

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<v Speaker 1>sex to make up for the fact that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have sex for three months. That's why I get each hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how we had that conversation about how

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<v Speaker 2>your body knows when it wants it to stop. Your

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<v Speaker 2>body's literally like stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, please please, he's coming, please please, do not put

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<v Speaker 1>that to do No. So I got ETI on the

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<v Speaker 1>very last day, and I was on the day that

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<v Speaker 1>I was flying out. And when I say get it,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that's listening has had yout You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very particular feeling at the start when you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember, no tingling. It's the heaviness,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the well frequently I mean frequent you in but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to explain it. It's like heavy inside,

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<v Speaker 1>It's really heavy and sensitive and this is like bearing down.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's what I get. Anyway, I get

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<v Speaker 1>that as well, but that's just from my prolapse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same, same, that's my uterus after walking around.

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<v Speaker 1>All that, I have to dug it back in sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I could feel this feeling and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me, it, I mean for most people happens quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>but the last time, remember you guys, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>I had one in Bali, and within like five hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wean blood and I was in so much

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<v Speaker 1>pain and Ben had to go to the doctors. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben was that training. I could feel that I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting this in a couple of hours. I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane for twenty five hours of flying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh my god, if I get this on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, because that's how fast it escalates. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to try and go to a pharmacist right

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<v Speaker 1>now before I get on this plane. I only had

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, so I messaged, of course, Alex and Eugene

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<v Speaker 1>next door, and I was like, hey, guys, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to I've just realized I need some medication before my

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<v Speaker 1>fly is any way you can take me because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a car over there, like yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So they swung by, got all my staff and took

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<v Speaker 1>me to a pharmacy. Now Alex was like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really bad at a Scottish accent, but I'm gonna try.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has written in saying, oh my god, Alex is

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<v Speaker 1>like Missus Doubtfire, and he is. He's exactly like Missus Doubtfire.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like her. He sounds like her. So we

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<v Speaker 1>pull up and Eugene's like, I'm going to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. You guys go in, Alex, take her in.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it to the pharmacy. It's like their local pharmacy,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's different in Scotland. You can't just go and

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<v Speaker 1>get Uti medication over the counter. And I didn't have time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I walk in and he's walking in with me

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, what's the problem. I said, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a Uti. I just told them I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's like, where would you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Alex, I've got a UTI and I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot get on a plane like this. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>no worries. And then he said, do you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to come in with you or do you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to st out here? And I said, well no, you

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<v Speaker 1>can come in. He's like, I don't want to embarrass you.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're not going to embarrass me, Like, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you can come in. So we walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>there's this tiny little pharmacy and there's about ten people

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<v Speaker 1>in there, scattered around, and we get to the counter

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<v Speaker 1>and everything silent, because you know, when you're in entire

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<v Speaker 1>little pharmacy everyone's really quiet. Alex goes, oh, Michael, hold on, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>we need some help. Britney here is from Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got a bun in.

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<v Speaker 1>YOUTI and I was like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Alex?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, everyone in the thing turned around.

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<v Speaker 4>It only came on this morning, but it's given them

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<v Speaker 4>lots of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Alex, I was like, remember how

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<v Speaker 1>you just said you don't want to come in because

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<v Speaker 1>you want embarrass me. I was like, everyone in here doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have you two. I. Then the lady at the

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<v Speaker 1>back turns around. Don't worry, Darland. I just picked up

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<v Speaker 1>my ut medication. She's like eighty. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst moment of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what is the worst moment of my life?

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<v Speaker 2>You're a Scottish accent. It's fucking awful.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, this is an unnecessary moment. Then

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<v Speaker 1>it was so hard. It was like trying to get crack.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I've ever tried to get cracked, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is how I imagine it was. Iron cracks probably easier it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to sit and I had to we allowed

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<v Speaker 1>a whole form with my whole history. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>sit in a private room. He wasn't going to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. He's like, I can't give you this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, please give me this medication. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's about the weird blot and it was a nightmare. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my medication, got on the plane, dealt within

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<v Speaker 1>five hours, got home and I just want to report

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<v Speaker 1>that has gone. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, does that mean that we'll never have to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? So, is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's your number one update from Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>You just went away with the love of your life

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<v Speaker 1>and the story. Yes, but Ben still loved me when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the depths of my despair and he

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<v Speaker 1>looked after me so like, I just feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>my forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh my god, it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. One other thing I will tell you. This absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>blew my mind and I can't believe I forgot until

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We really should make a list of the shit that

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to talk about, because we get to this

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<v Speaker 2>point where I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Make a list in my head. I was driving along

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<v Speaker 1>in Scotland and guess what I saw past me? Eleprecorn

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<v Speaker 1>close a life bun cut jumper. No, stop it in

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland's stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it one of Ben's family members? No, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a stranger. And we were zipping past and she was

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<v Speaker 1>walking past, and I tried to wind the window down

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<v Speaker 1>really fast, but I was about fifty meters past at

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<v Speaker 1>this point and I yelled out really loudly, we love love.

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<v Speaker 1>And she turned around but I was too far away.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she was like, stop in Australia. She's like, someone

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<v Speaker 1>gave this away. I found it on the road and

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<v Speaker 1>then I told Sherry and she was like, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a this is in Glasgow. She goes, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>girl walking around Edinburgh with a life on cut jumper

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Can we got to two people in Scotland?

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, this is just a promo. I know it's getting

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<v Speaker 2>Warman out, but our fucking life on cut jumpers are

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<v Speaker 2>so nice. Like the quality of them if so good.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't got yourself a life and cut jumper

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>yet there's still some available and like you know what,

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't even matter if you don't like the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The quality of the jumpers of fucking litty City. I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to say, then, and let me see it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a similar situation in Bali. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for Gojack and this is also like a reminder

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<v Speaker 2>of the live shows. But we were waiting for a

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<v Speaker 2>Gojack and the Gojack had pulled up. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been to Bali, Gojack is kind of like the Uber

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>equivalent over there, right, and you can book a scooter

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>or you can book a car. Anyway, we were waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for a car to pick us up, and the car

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<v Speaker 2>had stopped. It was finishing off a trip, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it started again, but the trip hadn't finished, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we're on this tiny little one lane like going on

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<v Speaker 2>one direction and the cars coming down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>we can see it still full, so it hasn't finished

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<v Speaker 2>the drop off. Anyway, the people in the car wind

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<v Speaker 2>the window down and they were like, oh, we're so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the address wrong. Our addresses just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit further. And then as they were in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the sentence, she was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's life on cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And the girl who was in the Gojack.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, why so sorry? When we talk your Gojack.

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<v Speaker 2>And she got out. It was so cute. She got out.

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<v Speaker 2>She stole your star, She stolent Uber she didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>it back. She stole my Gojack. She loved you, but

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<v Speaker 2>not enough to give you the uber back, which I

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of respect for. She got out and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I'm coming to your Sydney live show.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was very cool. Running into life is in

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<v Speaker 2>BALI who are coming to the live shows?

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<v Speaker 1>That is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is your reminder that if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>your live show tickets yet, the shows start in two

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks now. Our very first show is Adelaide and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so much fun. And if you haven't

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 2>sent us, you're accidently unfiltered stories. You ask Guncut questions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're coming to a live show, we want real

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<v Speaker 2>life content. You can remain anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We would love to get you up on stage and

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<v Speaker 2>do it all together. But if you want to remain anonymous,

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. Just come to the shows, get your tickets,

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>send us your content. At every single show, we've got

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>different guests coming. And if you've been following along on

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Instagram on Life on Cut podcast, you will see that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been dropping. We've been bred caraming the guests along.

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<v Speaker 2>In Adelaide, we have Emily Weir and also Kelly Finlayson.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Emily, you guys might know her from home and away,

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why I wanted and dancing with the stuff, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like the runner up. She was fucking amazzing

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<v Speaker 2>with a salcer, also with her fantastic whipped you with

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<v Speaker 2>her tassel.

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<v Speaker 1>She was so so my god, how did I not

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<v Speaker 1>think of this as if I'm not making you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do a dance off for the live show, fucking brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>I will do the floss because I have forgotten my

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<v Speaker 1>sulcinering with Emily, and I will do some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>work in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason why I wanted to get em on

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<v Speaker 2>the live show and I was so excited for us

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<v Speaker 2>to interview her is because we were doing like press

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<v Speaker 2>around dancing with the stars, and we were sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the green room of like the Today Show. Right, and Emily,

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<v Speaker 2>she will stay out late, she will party as hard

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<v Speaker 2>as the rest of them. But when I say party,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 2>she is completely sober. She doesn't drink, she doesn't do

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<v Speaker 2>any drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>She is stone cold, soberrady, one eighty cleany, but not

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<v Speaker 1>a Meani. I liked Mark in our next jumper, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we've spoken about sobriety quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. We've done episodes on conscious sobriety before.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of shocked when Emily said, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was like at one of the finals for

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<v Speaker 2>dancing and I was like running aroun with the bottle

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>of gin backstage and I was like on a swig

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and she and she was very much like, no, I'm sober.

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<v Speaker 2>And it still struck me as like a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a oh, like weird, yeah, weird. And I hate that

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I had that reaction because I should know better, but

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I did have this instant like, oh, you don't drink, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting. Anyway, the next day, when we were in

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<v Speaker 2>the green room of the day room, we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and Emily she said, you know, I never

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<v Speaker 2>would have achieved the things that I've achieved, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would never be where I am now in my career

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<v Speaker 2>or in my personal life if I hadn't stopped drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I am so looking forward to having that conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>a broader conversation around that on stage, because I think

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Emily is she's so she's honestly the life of the party.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so inspirational, and I think her approach to alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>is something that's very, very relatable to a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also such a breath of fresh air. She's got

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<v Speaker 1>so much energy, and she's so chatty and she's so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just like one of those people that you love

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<v Speaker 1>to be around. So I'm super excited about that. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of inspiration, we also have Kelly Finlayson. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>might have heard the episode we did with Kelly a

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<v Speaker 1>little while ago. So Kelly is Adelaide based, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has been battling bowel cancer which spread to her lungs

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>stage four for quite a long time. She sort of

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>found out immediately after she was pregnant. She had it

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>when she was pregnant. So she's got a little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to catch up with Kelly and talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about what that process is like where she's

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<v Speaker 1>at now because it was spreading and she was trying

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<v Speaker 1>some new alternative treatments. I know you guys loved that

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<v Speaker 1>episode so much. She's also the most positive and bright

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and bubbly person as well. So Adelaide is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>incredible I'm really looking forward to. Even if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>listened to Kelly's story, you'll get enough of it at

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the show. But if you have listened to it, there'll

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>be plenty of things that are new to follow on

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>from it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, go and get your tickets. It's life on

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>cutpodcast dot com dot a you. There is a ticket

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<v Speaker 2>link page on the website and you can get tickets

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 2>to all the shows there. But Adelaide, you are our

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<v Speaker 2>number one baby, and we are coming for you in

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks. All right, it is time for Accidentally Unfiltered

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And Britt has been pissing herself for the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes I wonder. Sometimes I find things funny and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, does anyone else funny? It'sunny? Are my sigo?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, ladies, It's taken me a while to write this

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<v Speaker 1>one in it is a memory I'd rather forget. When

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen or twenty, I went through a weird

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>phase where my discharge stunk. I must have had BV

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>or something and just not known it. But I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I was really self conscious and worried about it. As

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<v Speaker 1>it has never happened to me before.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>One day I was hanging out with this guy I

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<v Speaker 1>was in love with, and he grabbed my phone to

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<v Speaker 1>google something and my last search result came up. He

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>reads it out loud, Why does my vagina discharge stick?

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Ha ha? He had a shocked look on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you, my survival instincts kicked in. I said, oh,

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>ha ha, very funny, Michael, very funny for googling that Michael,

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and acted unfazed as if our mutual friend Michael, who

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<v Speaker 1>is known as a jokester, had taken my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a good bat.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he believed me and it just got brushed

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<v Speaker 1>aside and never discussed again. But I tell you my

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>fight or flight kicked in.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Good lie, that's a solid like.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael the joke Stop. No, it is not Michael, the

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>jokes that took my phone and googled why does my

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<v Speaker 1>life for trying to dischouge stick? As a side note,

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<v Speaker 1>we got an update. There's a side note. I am

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<v Speaker 1>now twenty six and have been with the above mentioned

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>bloke for four years. We own properties together and live together,

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<v Speaker 1>and my discharge no longer stinks. My unsolicited advice to

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>listeners go to the doctors and delete your search history.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy ending, but the trauma lives on. Wow, but I reckon,

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there'd be so many stories about when something when you've

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>googled someone and then you open your phone in that

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>person sees it. I feel like it happened to me

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. Actually, I just got a flashback.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to sit on that and think who it was.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I was at work. This is many, many many years

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>ago when I used to work an office and I

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>remember one of my colleagues opened something on his phone

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and he'd been watching porn.

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<v Speaker 1>Just came as, I reckon, that's really common.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I reckon, that's really good. All so can I also

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>want to say getting BV is also common. Fucking everyone

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>has a stint of it at some point in their life.

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Just go and get some antibiotics.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think the moral of the story is

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>here is that like, if you get it, fine, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the doctor.

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is is because nobody ever talks about it.

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>No one's ever like I've got back to gagonosis.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>When I was in my early twenties, I hadn't ever

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>had it. Oh fuck. It was the worst. I was like, what.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Vagina sty dead? And my boyfriend at the time was

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>a doctor and he was like, you have BV. And

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>now it turns out there's been research that's come out

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that it's from them actually catch it from guys and

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>he was cheating on me. So you know what, that

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't checks out. That is some but yeah, so just

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>like go and get yourself checked because it's like, it's

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>not normal to smell that bad, and it's also shouldn't

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>be embarrassing, and it's so easy to treat, but it's

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>also so easy to ignore. I have one which I

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>think is cute, and it's the podcast related. I was

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>listening to your episode from quite a while ago where

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you were talking about squirting on the way to school

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>pickup in the car. When I got and I started

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>walking through the school, I went to open my phone

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and somehow managed to hit play on the podcast, and

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it was right when Laura said, very loudly, well, it

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 2>really depends on how much liquid and what can be

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>defined as squirting, And it came out so loud through

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>my speaker right in the middle of the school pickup

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>when all of the parents were standing there waiting for

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>their small children. I fumbled with my phone, trying to

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>turn the volume down, but instead I hit the emergency

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>call on the home screen. I panicked turned my phone off.

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Everyone was looking at me, and everybody heard that I

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>was listening to a podcast about squirting.

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>To be fair, that was probably listening to Yeah if

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>their mums, I hope, so yeah? And is there not

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you tell them about it?

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Life one God, you live your best squirting life. Do

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing to be ashamed of BV and a squirter. That

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>What a way to round that episode out. Okay, well

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>should we talk about what the episode is about? Look yet?

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>No? Now we shouldn't. We should have just ended here.

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>No, look today, I'm really excited to bring you this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I say excited is because this story

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>is a friend of mine, a friend I went to

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<v Speaker 1>school with, and she has a truly incredible story, and

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>she's so passionate and happy and vibrant and positive that

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I wanted the world to know

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>her story. So her name is Alison Wilcox. Alison and

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>her sister, Sally, are three years apart. Alison went to

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<v Speaker 1>school with my sister Sherry in the same year, and

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I was in Sally's year, so like we all have

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>known each other a very long time. When Allison was

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>only eighteen years old, she was in a really bad

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>car accident where she nearly died and she was left

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>as a paraplegic. She has since over the years had

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>upwards of one hundred operations, all from these secondary conditions

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>from the accident. Like it's not like she how the

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>accident was done. She's just spent her whole life literally

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>since that day in hospital, six months at a time.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>And her sister Sally, who I went to school with,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>has just been like a savior for her. They're best friends,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they call each other's soulmates. Then they've really looked after

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>each other. I recently thought again about Ali's story because

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw her on the project talking about this bucket

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>list that she's ticking off. She's decided to go and

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>travel the world tick a bucket list off because she

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how long she has to live. When the

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>time comes, she has decided to do voluntary euthanasia. So

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>she has decided that she will be in charge of

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>when her life ends, as opposed to letting her injuries

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and her body decide whether you know someone or you

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>don't hearing somebody that's your age go through that, and

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>she was so happy and positive when she was talking

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I just thought, I just want to

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>tell your story, like, let the world know how amazing

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you are for me.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I loved speaking to Ali, and I think,

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, you nailed it so well Britain saying that

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>she's so positive, which I think for a lot of people,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you think, how could you be so positive when you're

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>faced with such adversity. But Ali is the type of

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>person that I think she deals with tragedy with dark humor,

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Like it's that whole anecdote of like if you don't laugh,

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you cry. But I think one of the parts of

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>this conversation that's so interesting is Allie's speaking about euthanasia

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and what she considers and wants to do with her

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>end of life, because it is such a complex topic,

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>and she's speaking about it from her own personal experiences,

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 2>but also touching on how that affects her family and

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 2>her parents and her sister. It's a really beautiful chat

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and I think her story is just profoundly incredible.

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Allie welcome to life on cut and I appreciate it. Well, Allie.

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>It's always good to start at the bottom and then

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>work our way back up from there. We do a

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>thing at the start of every interview. It is called

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>an accidentally unfiltered story, your most embarrassing story, and I

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>hear you have a good one.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll get you to choose which one my first period

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 3>or a nude story.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>My first period, or we go both, but I reckon

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>go a nude story.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, I'm like, I don't know all my

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 3>male friends will listen to this. Within the first weeks

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 3>of being home from the hospital after my accident, all

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>my friends were around Port McCrorie and we used to

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 3>party a lot. So we hired a townhouse that was

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>up the road from my house, the two story townhouse.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>So we're having a party there and I found out

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 3>they had a spa, which was just a hot spa,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, I need to get in there

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 3>would be good for my body. And I was dating

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>this Mexican guy at the time, and it was a

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>huge language barrier between us, and all he could say

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 3>was mummy and all I said was puppy.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>So we didn't really think, well, that was a great

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:18.399
<v Speaker 1>connection you guys had.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, like this is good. So we went in

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>the spa, him and I and we pretty much skinny

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 3>dipped in the spa and I got out of the spar.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 3>He lifted me out. He was great, Like all the

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 3>guys I've dated since my accident, they've just been really

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 3>carrying a kind so he would lifted me everywhere. So

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>he lifted me out of the spa. And when I

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 3>got out of the spar I realized I didn't know

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>how to dress myself. So I was so new to

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>my accident, and my mum would dress me for about

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>two three years, and I was like, fucka, how am

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I going to put my money so on? How I'm

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 3>going to put my bra on?

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>I slipped my boobchoop dress over and then we went

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>back to the townhouse and he piggybacked me up to

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 3>the second floor and we sat on the veranda and

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 3>I was in my wheel and I don't know if

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 3>it was the wine or if it was dark, but

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I started to roll and I didn't realize that there

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 3>was no railing on the brander. Oh my god, I

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 3>fell three meters off the veranda onto the concrete on

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>the ground. I rolled out into the road. As soon

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 3>as I hit the ground, my boob tube went up

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>and down and went around my stomach.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Alie, this is messed up.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Only people in this house party Allie and he was

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 4>at the top and he was screaming, mummy, mommy, and

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like, good, my puppy helped me. We were

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 4>screaming so loudly that everyone in this house came out

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 4>and they were just saw me laying slats.

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 3>On the ground nude. And I couldn't sit up or

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 3>do anything at that time. So my best friend raced

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>out and like lifted me into my wheelchair and I

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh Holly, that's the worst.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>We can't love it, Ellie. This isn't a news story.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That's fux. That's the trauma. You were fell up a

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>bony onto the road.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I was laying on the ground. I was like, if

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I ever become unemployed, I could be a leveler for

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>a builder. Gildish to pay me to go into the

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>houses and tell the wind the floor's not level.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Because you'll roll off.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. After that, I was like, I need to date

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 3>someone where there's no language barrier.

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the best part of this is laying on

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the ground naked screaming mummy Poppy. That is incredible. It

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is incredible. But now I need to hear the period

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>story because if it's almost as good as that one,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can top it.

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 3>So I was a bitch to my mum when I

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>was fifteen. I got my period when I was pretty late,

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 3>so he's just surf a lot. So the first day

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I got my period was after school, was like three pm,

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 3>and Mom was like, do you want me to help

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 3>you with anything? And I was like pretty much like

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 3>fuck off, leave me alone. So I put a tampon

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 3>in and then I went out to it and I

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, drive me to the beach. You want to

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 3>go for a surf. So she drove me to the

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 3>beach and my boyfriend at the time was out Bodybody,

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, cool, here's here, it would be

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 3>nice to see him. I feel like crap. So I

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>went out and I just caught away, stood up and

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 3>I felt something dropped between my legs and I just

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 3>looked down and there was the most inflated tample like

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 3>it looked like a marshmallow. Speaking on my surfboard. He

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 3>looked at me, he looked at that. He caught a

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 3>wave in never said anything too. And then I got

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 3>in the car to my mom and I explained to

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>what happened. She was like, how did that happen? And

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, aren't you just supposed to put

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 3>a tampon like in between your lips like a song.

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 3>You was like, no, you're supposed to put it.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Up like a hot dog dog, like a hot dog.

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:42.959
<v Speaker 3>Literally, it was like a hot dog.

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>It was just awful. And then I was like, I

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 3>should probably be nicer to my mom. She was like

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 3>offering to help me, and I was like, it's off.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>But it's also crazy that at fifteen, through your friends,

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>all through school or some signed a chat, you haven't

0:39:57.920 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>been taught how to put a tamp on.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>It on one And you're like, I feel like my

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 2>parents should have told me this at some point prior

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 2>tending to put a tampont in, But also like, how

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>did at no point of sex education or like schooling,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>was there not a class where someone said, here is

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 2>a pad and this is a tampon. Just so that

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>we know that there's some consistency to the education that's

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>going out.

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>And the more you actually picture and think about, like

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>pulling the lips apart and just horizontally putting tap And

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it was so easy.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>And everyone was saying how hard it was to put

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 3>them in when you first got your parents, and I

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, that was too busy.

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what's everyone talking?

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And that didn't raise any red flags.

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 3>It must be loose or something. I don't know.

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's so important. I mean, that's a

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>really important part of this story. So before your accident

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 1>at Tampon at eighteen, No, before at eighteen, you were

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>super active. You were an amazing I remember, like, you're

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>an amazing surfer. You served every single day. So tell

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about your life before the accident.

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 3>So I was very lucky growing up, Mum and dad

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 3>living at home. They were both chef they both became

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 3>nurses when I was about twelve. It's a very caring environment.

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I have an older sister who's four years older than me,

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 3>and we were both really active. I got into a

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 3>few sports when I was young, but nothing beat surfing.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 3>So when I was about ten, I got into surfing

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 3>competitively and I did it every day, and I've got

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>really good friendships from that. My house was across the

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 3>road from the beach, so I letter you could just

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 3>walk across the road every day and go for a surf.

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 3>And back then I could be at the beach from ten.

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 3>My parents would just let me go do whatever. In

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 3>Port we grew up in a really nice town, really

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 3>good community, so everyone was outside being active. Yeah, so

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I had a really good childhood.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Alie, how old were you when the accident happened.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I was six weeks after my eighteenth birthday.

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Can you talk us through what happened that day, like,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>what was the sequence of events.

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was going on my first road trip with

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 3>friends out to Narrowbright. We're going to the races. So

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 3>we left on Friday and we're coming home on Sunday.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 3>So we went to the races on the Saturday, and

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 3>then we left early on the Sunday to get home

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 3>for work and stuff on Monday. And Narraw Brays through

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Welcome Mountain Ranges. So it's about a five hour drive

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>west from Port McCrary.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And they're really windy mountains, aren't they.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really windy and steep, and it's not trees and

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 3>stuff on them. It's just like cliffs. That drop off

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 3>started raining just a little bit, and then everyone was exhausted.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>In the car. I was in the front seat, My

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 3>best friend was in the backseat, she's still my best

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 3>friend to this day. And then the driver she was

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>texting and driving. And back then I didn't think much

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 3>of it. I was eighteen. I didn't think that was

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 3>bad or anything. But she looked down at a text

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 3>message and then overcrackt to the car. And then we

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 3>rolled fourteen times off the mountain cliff embankment. And we're

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 3>still pretty far away from Port McCrary, like two hours,

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 3>so it was pretty rural area. So it took three

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 3>hours for an ambulance to come. But yeah, we rolled

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 3>fourteen times down the mountain.

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And so what happened the bottom of the mountain. Had

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you knocked yourself unconscious on the way down or were

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you conscious the whole time?

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so on the third roll, I got knocked out.

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. That I was thinking, Oh, this doesn't

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 3>happen to my friends or family, will be fine, or

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.240
<v Speaker 3>just be being on the car, and I just envisioned

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>us getting out and seeing a small ding on the

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 3>front and being in trouble for crashing. So that's all

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I thought, we were crashing that when we got to

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 3>the bottom, I became conscious and I couldn't breathe, and

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I knew then that something was seriously wrong. I never

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 3>knew exactly how wrong, but when I couldn't breathe, I

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>was like, this is not good. Tim climbed over me

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 3>to get out of the car, and she kept saying

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to me, come on, Ali, get out, get out, get out,

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 3>because there was fuel everywhere. I could feel fuel burning me.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 3>So she was screaming at me to get out, and

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even talk because I couldn't breathe. But I

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 3>was saying I can't move, I can't move, help me.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 3>And then she ended up tearing all the cords in Hello,

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>So technically she shouldn't be able to walk. It's one

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 3>of those stories you hear with adrenaline. But she got

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>me out, gave me CPR, got me awake, so I

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 3>kept going in and out of consciousness, stop breathing. So

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 3>she got me out of the car and then climbed

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 3>to the top of the mountain and screamed for help.

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:24.439
<v Speaker 1>And she did that with two torn quad muscles, which,

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>like you just said, physiologically, that should mean you are

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>not walking around, Like this is what he's connecting your

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>need to your hip. You should not be walking. But

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>she managed to climb a mountain and find help.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow, what happened to the driver?

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 3>She was fine, She didn't get any serious injuries. I

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>think she was shocked. She just seemed really shocked at

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.439
<v Speaker 3>the accident. I don't remember much of her. I think

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.919
<v Speaker 3>they sat her away, but I remember Kim sitting next

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 3>to me when I was waiting for the ambulance, and

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I had so much blood in my eyes. I kept

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 3>saying to her, you're bleeding, You're bleeding, but it was

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 3>coming out of my brain through my eyes.

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, God. And why you said that? You

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 2>felt like, I mean, you couldn't breathe. What was happening

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 2>to your lungs at the time.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 3>So I broke all my ribs and they went through

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 3>my lungs. So I was slowly drowning in my own blood.

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Elie, So I had like a leader

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 3>of blood in my lungs.

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you in pain at that time or do you

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of go past the pain threshold? Because you hear

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people in these intense situations, they don't actually have

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>any comprehension of how bad it is.

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I could feel the pain. That's what kept bringing me

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 3>out of my life. When I was unconscious. It kept

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>bringing me out, and the police officer didn't know what

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 3>to do with me because I would stop breathing. He

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 3>kept sitting me up, and every time I sat me up,

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I felt my neck collapsed. Oh my god, I could

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 3>feel just pain all over my body. But he didn't

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 3>know what to do. He was the new police officer.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 3>He was the first one on the scene with all

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>emergency services, so I think he freaked out a bit.

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And so what happened when the emergency services arrived? What

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>did they do to you? How did they treat you?

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:05.919
<v Speaker 1>And then how did you get out of there?

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 3>So the ambulance came. I think as soon as they

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 3>saw me, they were like, yeah, we can't take you

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 3>to Port Base.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>God no, Port McCrory Base Hospital. If everyone is like

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>ports of retirement towns. I mean, I worked at that

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>hospital for ten years. It's equipped for low key emergencies,

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but not something like this.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 3>So they came and then as soon as they saw me.

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 3>They were like, we need to call a helicopter. So

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 3>the helicopter came from Newcastle. Their ambulance gave me a

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 3>green whistle and they had to lift me up the

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 3>hill and I was having the best time of life,

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Like as soon as they came that kareema, so I

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, this is great. Then it took about three

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 3>hours to get there from the ambulance, I think, and

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I had a really lovely helicopter driver. I'm matty sure.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 3>It was like a pasta. And then I had a

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 3>paramedic and they took me to roll not sure they

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 3>were supposed to stop at John Hunter, but their paramedic

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.879
<v Speaker 3>said I would die if they stopped there because they

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 3>weren't equipped to do with me because it was that bad.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 3>But usually you get trey yards to John Hunter. So

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I was that bad that they just skipped that and

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 3>they ended up getting reprimanded for that. And like, I'm

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty sure the paramedic loss is on in four days

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I heard you speak about this. And the paramedic who

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>was flying the helicopter he made the decision that he

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 2>was like the Newcastle hospital is just not equipped enough

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 2>and he without the approval and against their wishes, he

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 2>took you to another better equipped hospital.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I remember them arguing. So it put me into like

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 3>an induced coma in the helicopter, but my pain kept

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 3>waken me out of that. And I remember a nurse

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 3>trying to get me off at John Hunter because that's

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a refiel petrol there, and he was just like, no,

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 3>remember taking arguing about it.

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's such an incredible and also a huge

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 2>risk that he took in order to do that. I mean,

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it's probably what saved your life, but also that's such

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a personal risk for his own career, and also you know,

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 2>who knows what could have happened between that flight from

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Newcastle to Sydney.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Exactly something happened. He had been so much trouble.

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Allison, what's your relationship like now with your friend who

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 2>was driving the car? I asked this because you know,

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>at seventeen eighteen, like we all did stupid things when

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.399
<v Speaker 2>we were driving, whether it be texting or driving too

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 2>fast or just not paying attention because we all think

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 2>are invincible. Have you got a relationship with that friend? Still?

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 3>No, we don't talk anymore. I think at eighteen we

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 3>both didn't understand the consequences of what happened. Yeah, so

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize what my journey was and she didn't

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 3>realize what her journey would be, So she lost a license.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.799
<v Speaker 3>But I think our parents made the decision to cut

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 3>contact for the both of us because I think for

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.240
<v Speaker 3>her to see me in a wheelchair every day would

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 3>have been a lot for her. And then also the

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>first five years after spinal injury, you go through so

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 3>much mental health issues. So yeah, I think my parents

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>made this decision for us. We spoke a couple of times,

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 3>and she apologized, and she was really upset about her

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 3>It must be I mean.

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine. I can't put myself in that position,

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>but it must be hard for you to hear that

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a part of the reason you're not friends is because

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>she couldn't bear to look at you, like she couldn't

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:25.760
<v Speaker 1>bear the grief.

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 2>There must be a part of you that's like, how

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the fuck do you think I.

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Feel like I'm the one that's now in a wheelchair, Like,

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>suck it up a little bit.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a few things I wanted to do.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, when I get home, I'll take her

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 3>up for lunch and I'll go to a place to stairs,

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 3>oh and just not be able to get in. And

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, no, that's awful for both of us. Yeah. Yeah.

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 3>So at eighteen, like now, I don't have any anger

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 3>or I don't feel any emotions at all because I

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 3>know it wasn't out of maliciousness. And I see people

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.959
<v Speaker 3>texting all the time. My friends still text and drive

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and it's just that common, and I know it's such

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 3>a little mistake.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It must infuriate you though, when it's your friends and

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you're like, this is why I'm like I am now.

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, can you talk us through? What were the

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 2>injuries that were sustained?

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I got fucked up. Yeah, so I broke nine vertebra

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>in my back from C three to T six. The

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 3>biggest one was a burst fracture at T four which

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 3>caused the spinal cord injury. So they set out a

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>complete spina cord injury, so that means my spinal cord

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 3>was fully squished. There's no blood in that section. And

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 3>then I broke my collarbone my right hand. I popped

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 3>something behind my eye with it, That's why there was

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 3>so much blood. I broke my jaw. I lost a

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 3>lot of my tea broke on my ribs, punction lungs.

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Was your brain okay? Like could you imagine that you'd

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have a bleed on the brain or something, because it

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds like.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, when the car rolled, the car collapse dawned

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 3>to me. And for the first few months they thought

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I had a brain injury because they kept coming in

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and doing all the tests, but I was on a

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 3>lot of drugs. So then they ended up doing the

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 3>test six months after and it came back normal. But

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 3>then I think to myself the amount of times had

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 3>been under anesthetic and medications, like, there's got to be something,

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 3>yeah there.

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did your recovery process look like? So when

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you went into rehab and then for how long were

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>you in hospital? Like not just your recovery process, but

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like how your family were able to support you through that,

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Like what was that period like post the accident?

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 3>So that was really difficult for my family. My best

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 3>friend Kim called Dad the night of the outset. The

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>cops didn't, she did, and he packed me one day's

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 3>worth of clothes because he thought he would be me

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 3>back the next day. So just no, and they drove

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 3>down at nine pm. We crashed at six pm. They

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 3>left sports at like nine or ten pm and got

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 3>there like three am, and I just remember looking at

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 3>my mom. I was on a ventilator by that point.

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I remember looking at my mum as she walked through

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the door and she just collapsed onto the ground and

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 3>she couldn't look at me, so she didn't come into

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 3>the room because I just looked awful, had blood. They

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 3>couldn't clean the blood off me for months because they

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 3>couldn't roll me or move me. And then Dad, he

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 3>was really proactive and like logistical about it, so he

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 3>came in and just started organizing everything. My sister flee

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.479
<v Speaker 3>down the next day. We ended up spending a year

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 3>in hospital. I spent six months in acute spun Award

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>and then six months at Royal Rehab in Sydney.

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Did you realize how bad it was before this moment

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 1>or when your mom walked in and she couldn't be

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>in the room or look at you. Was that a

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>moment where you were like, fuck, this must be worse

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>than I thought.

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, you don't really understand unless you work in the

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 3>medical field. That's spinal God in dreamings forever, So I

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:59.399
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, yeah, I'll just do rehab and it'll

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 3>be fine. Yeah. So I never really understood any of

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 3>it until six months in when I wasn't getting better,

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 3>and like I had so many secondary complications from spinal

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 3>cording injury that I realized I was going to be

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 3>sick forever. So it wasn't until then I just thought

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I'd be doing rehab like a broken leg.

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. How many surgeries have you now had as part

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 2>of your recovery process?

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Probably over one hundred. So every year I lose function

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 3>in mums, and that due to spinal fluid that gets

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.479
<v Speaker 3>caught on the scar tissue. It's got a SEARINGX that's

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 3>really Red's like three percent of people I could just

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 3>get it. So every I've become a quatriplated for a

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 3>few months and then they drain the fluid and that

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 3>surgery is fifteen hours long.

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 1>So just to be clear on that for those that

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>are listening. So Allison's situation is that she can't use

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>her legs and she's in a wheelchair. But because of

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>this condition, for a few months, you become a quad

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>you can't use your arms or anything. They drain it

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and you get the use of your arms again. Correct, Yeah,

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and then that is changing now in the future, they

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>can't do those operations anymore, is.

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 3>That right, Yes, So each time that surgery happens, I

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 3>lose a bit more function, and each time they do it,

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I get more and more complications from the surgery. So

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 3>last year I was in hospital for six months. They

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 3>did the surgery, but they couldn't close my back because

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 3>it just won't close anymore. So I had a giant

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 3>hole in my back for six months, and then I

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.840
<v Speaker 3>had a holy my spinal cord, so all my brain

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 3>fluid was leaking out, so my brain was sitting in

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>my neck for six months. And then your brain fluid

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 3>kills muscles when it touches it. So my trap in

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 3>my back dyed. All my muscles in my back died,

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 3>so they had to do like a full reconstructor surgery

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 3>on my back. That was six months in hospital laying

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 3>flat with a massive migrain and you could feel my

0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 3>brain in my neck. That would happen again, except I

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 3>will end up passing away from it, probably get many

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 3>giitis or an infection after the six months, and they'll

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.240
<v Speaker 3>just never be able to close back.

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 1>So from the next time that that happens, That's what

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>they say, the next operation.

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 3>So they put a shunt in every year, but because

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm so active, it's just a really complicated secondary complicated,

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 3>like there's only one surgeon that can operate on it

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 3>in the world.

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 3>They put a shunt in and then it slides out

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>or it breaks, so they have to put a new

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 3>shunt in. So when the next shunk fails, I'll just

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 3>lose function in my arms and then my brain.

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what that looks like in terms of

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:38.399
<v Speaker 2>time frame?

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.320
<v Speaker 3>So I usually could only get a year between surgeries.

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 3>The most I've had is like two years back. But

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 3>leave it and go and operate. I'll probably get like

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 3>three or four years. But once the shunk comes out,

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 3>it could either be a slow decline or a pasticline,

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 3>but it'll be very painful.

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And is that what you've decided you do? Have you

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>decided to do an operation again when it happens or

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to not do no?

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.399
<v Speaker 3>So the doctor said they don't want to approad, so

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 3>they were there one to make the call as they

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 3>said it to me and just standing at the end

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 3>of the bed and Brad was sitting next to me

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 3>in Sally and they just looked horrified, But in my

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 3>brain I was like, thank god someone said it. I

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 3>would have felt like I failed if it was me

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 3>making the decision, but they made it for me. So

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, finally I can be at peace and

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.919
<v Speaker 3>not do medical stuff all the time.

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you were almost relieved, and Brad is your partner,

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>You almost relieved that they were saying, don't choose. We're

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 1>telling you we can't operate anymore.

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I could find some cowboy neurosurgeon that would

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 3>do it, but it would just go terribly. So the

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:53.839
<v Speaker 3>best neurosurgeon for this in the world said no more. So. Yeah,

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 3>it was like a weight lifted off my shoulders.

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Alison, how do you how do you even begin to

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>compartmentalize this? Going from being eighteen looking forward to having

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 2>all of you know, whatever the plans were for life

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 2>ahead of you, to then being given this diagnosis that

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 2>seems to just be compounding as the years go on.

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you manage to maintain even a glimmer of positivity?

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 2>And I know that you are very stoic about this,

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and you seem to have still so many things that

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 2>you're looking forward to.

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the first five years was really difficult. I

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 3>spent four years in hospital and I just like I

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 3>had a million things go wrong. I've had my bower move,

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:38.479
<v Speaker 3>I've had a million blooder surgeries, like just a lot

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 3>of stuff do with a lot of chronic pain. So

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 3>as soon as I'm feeling well, I don't know what

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 3>it is, I just feel happy. Yeah, So the days

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling good, I have anxiety or depression. I don't

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 3>know why. I think it's like a coping like I

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 3>want to use the day I feel well. So yeah,

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, and I always have something to look

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 3>forward to, and my support system's really huge.

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of your support system, I mean, we'll come

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>back to what your future looks like and your plans,

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>because your plans sound amazing. But let's go back to Brad,

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>your partner. How long have you been with Brad and

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>how did you guys meet because we love a love

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 1>story here.

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>So Brad was actually captain with Sherry at school. Yes, yeah,

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 3>and he was dating one of my best friends at

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 3>the time. He dated her for eight years and we

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 3>remained friends, been friends since we were twelve. We started

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.680
<v Speaker 3>hanging out a lots about four years ago and I

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 3>got into jet skiing and he was like, oh, I

0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 3>could make your hoist to get on the JETSKO went

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 3>home to sell and I was like, this dude can

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 3>make me shit. Knew we how to make me the

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 3>caller stuff.

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I need to keep him around.

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 3>He was like, yeah, she's like you should date him.

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 3>And then my aunt and my sister for like six months,

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 3>every day we're like, you need to date Brad. You

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 3>need to break Brade, and then yeah, I asked him

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 3>on a day and he said he's been waiting for that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was it like for you when you

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<v Speaker 2>started dating again after having an accident. I would assume

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people might feel a bit insecure

0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 2>or a bit worried about, you know, the complications that

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>come from even just the mobility side of things. Were

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 2>you ever worried or were you just like, let's do

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 2>this brand.

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 3>As soon as they told me I couldn't walk again,

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I called one of my friends and I said, do

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<v Speaker 3>you think I'll be able to do Doggie?

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Probably if you just lay on your tummy right.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I was like, okay, I need to try.

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So I love that that was your first thought ali luck.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think my wheelchair is a good deterrent to

0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 3>fuck boys too.

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amazing.

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 3>So every man I've dated up to my accident has

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 3>been the most caring human you could find. So I've

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 3>been quite lucky. But yeah, the first year, I just

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 3>went a bit wild. I was a bit worried I

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 3>wasn't gonna be attractive anymore, and I was like really insecure.

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<v Speaker 3>But as soon as I got home, guys that I

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<v Speaker 3>was with before, like, we're asking me on dates and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>So it was fine and I can still do doggie

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<v Speaker 3>so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a question that I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people the dog you one not yeah, the doggie.

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<v Speaker 1>But the question a lot of people probably wonder with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in your situation is like, I'm not sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where your feeling stops.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it from your waist down?

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<v Speaker 3>I have all feeling. So my injury actually is in

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<v Speaker 3>complete and it took me years to work it out.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I lost my wheelchair virginity. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>still in hospital, I had a neck race on and

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<v Speaker 3>my hands in casts, and someone you and I both

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<v Speaker 3>know signed me out of hospital for the night and

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<v Speaker 3>we went to a hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to tell me this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thow me around on il Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>So someone we know came in, kidnapped you from the hospitals, signed,

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<v Speaker 1>fucked your brains out, put you back in the wheelchair,

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<v Speaker 1>willed you back. Yeah, that is that one of got

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the best. Can't tell me this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the greed. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>tell Sherry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I'm like it was so good. The doctor's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing? Where are you going? I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I've just got to go shopping and thatics never came

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<v Speaker 3>back for the night. And then my doctor grounded me.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, you're not llowed out again. I know what

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<v Speaker 3>you're up to, bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go and do my things.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're up to. You're like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being an eighteen year old, That's what I'm up to.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this because I think that often this, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've spoken to many people in the past who have

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<v Speaker 2>been through disabilities and coming into disability from being fully

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<v Speaker 2>able bodied, and there is this like feeling of insecurity

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<v Speaker 2>or this feeling of like, how am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>date again? How am I going to love again? Like

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there has been many beautiful stories about

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<v Speaker 2>how people have overcome that. But but I love that

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<v Speaker 2>for you that that wasn't a barrier. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's an amazing message because I think we get

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<v Speaker 2>fed this idea that it should be a barrier, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it does come down to

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<v Speaker 2>your own perspective and your own feelings around yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>how how you perceive yourself rather than how other people

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<v Speaker 2>perceive you.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't slowed Alley Down's just fucking in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>What's us chatting about this peladay with one of my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think it's disability that dops you. I

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<v Speaker 3>think people that were insecure before it just heightens everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you were this confident, vibrant, active person and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing changed, Like you still do all the things you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still dating, you're still fucking, you're still surfing, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still traveling the world. Like your personality persona hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just made it a bit harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, do you feel like it's psychologically changed

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<v Speaker 2>anything for you? I mean, obviously it's changed loads of

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<v Speaker 2>things for you physically, but from like a psychological perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's had an impact on your personality

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<v Speaker 2>at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I was a brat before, and I am so much

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<v Speaker 3>more grateful soon as had my accident. I was best

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<v Speaker 3>friends with my parents and we had a really great relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>They passed away. Mom passed away when I was twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one and dad passed away four years ago. But from

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen until then we had a really great relationship. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's made me more grateful for things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't get angry anymore. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 3>helped that a lot. I'm just really calm in all situations,

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<v Speaker 3>so most small things, trivial things, they're not issues to

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<v Speaker 3>me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that time, like, your family obviously looked after

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<v Speaker 1>you a lot, Sally and both of your parents, and

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<v Speaker 1>then your mom passed away. Is I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>only three or four years after the accident, Is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like to have two out of three

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that literally looked after you pass away.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was way bigger if I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>my accident. Mum was my best friend for the first

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<v Speaker 3>four years. It was very lonely because I was that sick,

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<v Speaker 3>being in hospital all the time. All my friends still,

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<v Speaker 3>the world kept turning, but mums didn't. Hers stopped with me,

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<v Speaker 3>So it was very lonely after she passed, and I

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<v Speaker 3>had a sense of guilt after because you could just

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<v Speaker 3>see their stress that she was under. You could just

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<v Speaker 3>see as soon as I had my accident, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>the same person and it was a lot for them

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<v Speaker 3>to see me sick all the time. Yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was really difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry you went through that, Alley. I think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when I was listening to your story and

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you're a mom, my first thought was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine what that would be like as a

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<v Speaker 2>mum to have to see their child suffering so much

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<v Speaker 2>and all you want to do is take the pain away.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so sorry that you had to go through

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<v Speaker 2>that with your family. But also it's truly beautiful that

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<v Speaker 2>it's something that brought you and your mum closer together

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<v Speaker 2>and that you were able to have that friendship with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm very lucky. I have a very good family.

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<v Speaker 3>Sally and I are inseparable. We can't go a day

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<v Speaker 3>without seeing each other or talking, so it's brought us

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<v Speaker 3>closer too.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you guys live together now or what you're

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<v Speaker 1>set up?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to sound like a freak. I lived in

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<v Speaker 3>her garage for a bit, try to save money to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, she know you were in the garage or

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<v Speaker 1>did you just like wheel in there and park and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like I'm done?

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<v Speaker 3>You like, yeah, try to kick me out. No, I

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<v Speaker 3>moved across the road and we both decided that was

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<v Speaker 3>too far away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's back into the house.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brad keeps saying it's like everybody loves Raymond, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's the best thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love that and seeing your bond because I

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<v Speaker 1>try and put myself in that situation and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have done exactly the same thing as Sale has done.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love seeing how close you are and how

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<v Speaker 1>much you both mean to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Brad live with you now as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about what life is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like now. So you have been told that you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly have a few years left, which I cannot imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like you've taken that in your stride

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<v Speaker 1>and you've made some really big life decisions on what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do for the future. What have you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do with your remaining time?

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to blow all my money, so he

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<v Speaker 3>sold I have, and I'm going to just travel for

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<v Speaker 3>the next two to three years. I fought my insurance

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<v Speaker 3>and got Brad paid as a carer. So now I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be able to go to any country I want and

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<v Speaker 3>he'll be able to care for me. So moving to

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<v Speaker 3>the USA for six months and then down to Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>three a few months, then to Canada. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to ski or snowboard, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>ship over my mountain bike to Whistler and then we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to Europe for a year or two years,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to see everywhere the world. Where people

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<v Speaker 3>always ask me what's on your list? I'm like everything, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I said to you, what's on your bucket list?

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<v Speaker 1>There's like three hundred things. Yeah, and have you written

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<v Speaker 1>it all down?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, have you written down like an itemized bucket list

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that you want to do together?

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<v Speaker 3>So I have like Morocco, Turkey, Croatia. It's mainly places

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<v Speaker 3>over experiences like I don't want to go skydiving and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. I just want to explore the world.

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<v Speaker 2>What impact does it have on your relationship with Brad

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<v Speaker 2>when you are so aware of your own mortality? And

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<v Speaker 2>I say this because you know, most of us have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea how much time we have with our partners,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas you have a much greater understanding of what and

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<v Speaker 2>how many years you have left. How does that affect

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<v Speaker 2>the two of you.

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<v Speaker 3>He's caused me morbid all the time because I make

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<v Speaker 3>jokes about it. We talk about youth and asia a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm usually just joking about it. So he gets really upset.

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<v Speaker 3>The first six months after my surgeries last year, I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't really bring it up without any getting up with sir.

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<v Speaker 3>But all of this happens because he never saw me

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<v Speaker 3>go through something so big. So I've only been dating

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<v Speaker 3>for two to three years and he wasn't that close.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be family to really understand the impact

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<v Speaker 3>six months of hospital has. So after all that happened,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, I understand why you are the way

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<v Speaker 3>you are because I can't sit still. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>do a million things. When I'm well, I just travel

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<v Speaker 3>three months the year. So it's like, okay, finally understand

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<v Speaker 3>that and he's on board with it. The start of

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<v Speaker 3>my surgeries last year, he said, for e very week

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<v Speaker 3>you're in here, we can go away for a month.

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<v Speaker 3>And he thought I'd only been there for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I was in there for six months and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, you better keep this because you've promised it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's really on board with all of my plans Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Before he was on board and supportive, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>a workaholic. Now he's not a workaholic.

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<v Speaker 2>Your priority shift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you feel like you guys don't fight or

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<v Speaker 1>argue or sweat the small stuff because of that, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've got this limited time that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>why we like, let's not waste our breath.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like the loveliest person and so supportive. We

1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:12.759
<v Speaker 3>never fight. We're just happy to be hanging out together.

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<v Speaker 2>You spoke about then and said you made jokes about euthanasia,

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<v Speaker 2>But I did listen to you talk about how your

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<v Speaker 2>dad actually signed some sort of documentation around euthanasia. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you talk me through what that was and what that

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<v Speaker 2>looked like for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So around year three, after my accident, my stomach stopped working,

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<v Speaker 3>so I hir like a nasal tube and they're like

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<v Speaker 3>we need to remove your whole stomach. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>so unwell, like to the points like nausey is the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt like I had a hangover without the

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<v Speaker 3>party book. Yeah, so it was pretty shit. So my

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<v Speaker 3>mum spoke about euthanasia a lot, and he signed me

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<v Speaker 3>up to Belgium and we actually had a date sets

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<v Speaker 3>And then Sally didn't know about it, but she saw

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<v Speaker 3>it on dad's computer and she ended up throwing computer

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<v Speaker 3>across the room and she was like, this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was It was really difficult at that time

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<v Speaker 3>because I hadn't lived yet where now I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I've been able to do everything I wanted. But then

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<v Speaker 3>I just I was like twenty one at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was so unwell.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what that was like for both of you,

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<v Speaker 1>but even a father, I can't imagine for your dad

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like to be brave enough to say I

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<v Speaker 1>love you enough that I will help you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go. I can't imagine and you coming

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<v Speaker 1>to terms with like I'm so tired and done with

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<v Speaker 1>this that I want to pass away. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what your dad was going through that time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also get I can sort of understand Sally's reaction

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<v Speaker 1>by being really selfish and being like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think my parents were just as worn down

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<v Speaker 3>as me by that point. And yeah, now that I

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<v Speaker 3>have a niece who I love so much, like she's

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite person in the world. Don't tell Sally, but

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<v Speaker 3>she'll probably with her. Yeah, I don't know how i'd

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<v Speaker 3>react if she was that unwell. I could not let

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<v Speaker 3>her do euthanasia, but then I couldn't let her live

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It would be the hardest.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Sally's reaction that stopped you from going? Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you said you had a date booked. Was it her

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<v Speaker 2>reaction that made you reconsider?

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<v Speaker 3>No. There was this doctor in the port base. It

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<v Speaker 3>was an odd dude. I went in and I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to kill myself. I can't keep being this sick.

1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:36.160
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, a cost to me will change

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<v Speaker 3>your life, It will revolutionize your life. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm twenty one, I'm not getting a colost to me.

1:11:42.120 --> 1:11:45.080
<v Speaker 3>And I went home for a few weeks and this

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<v Speaker 3>is really disgusting. I started vomiting thown pieces so that

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<v Speaker 3>happened a lot. Yeah, and remember vomiting that and thinking

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this is freaking weird. Doctor's up to something. So

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up going down to Sydney. I didn't do

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<v Speaker 3>it at Port Based. I did at the spinal unit

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<v Speaker 3>and had my stomach removed and the next day I

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<v Speaker 3>felt fine. Wow, like it was just overnight, even after

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<v Speaker 3>a massive surgery. I felt better than I had in

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<v Speaker 3>four years by accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it because where your spinal cord was crushed, it

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<v Speaker 2>corresponds to so many different organs? Is that why there's

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<v Speaker 2>been this like ongoing complication.

1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:27.120
<v Speaker 3>So my injury is high. I say it's around my

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<v Speaker 3>nipple level, but that was my nipple level when I

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<v Speaker 3>was eighteen, so it's a bit higher than it is now.

1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:38.040
<v Speaker 3>So it's above all your stomach, and it's also above

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<v Speaker 3>your autonomic nervous system. So my heart and blood pressure

1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:48.640
<v Speaker 3>is controlled lower than that level. So if I get constipated,

1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I can have a stroke. So that was one of

1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:53.360
<v Speaker 3>the things that it was like, you'll have a stroke

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<v Speaker 3>or you need a cost.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, how do you feel about euthanasia? Now? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you said you had a date when you were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>but now that you know that there is a time

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<v Speaker 1>limit and you are going to deteriorate, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about some of the things that they did

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<v Speaker 1>say is going to happen to you. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about euthanasia? Is it something you will relook at.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, my psych and I talk about it very often.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with it now. I'm not okay with it

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<v Speaker 3>right now because I don't feel unwell and I still

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<v Speaker 3>have energy to do stuff, and I still have arm function.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know that in the next four or five

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<v Speaker 3>years it will be a decision that I would have

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<v Speaker 3>to make, and my family knows what my decision will be,

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<v Speaker 3>which will be I'm going to do euthanasia before I

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<v Speaker 3>suffer anymore. And yeah, it gets discussed a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you get into the position of even deciding euthanasia,

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<v Speaker 3>it's either go through hell and feel awful or that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a pretty easy decision and it's made for you.

1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Whereas if you're well and you're like, well, if I

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<v Speaker 3>died tomorrow, that's really sad, but it's sort of bleaker

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<v Speaker 3>either way. After suffering for so long the first five years,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>How does your sister Sally respond to that conversation now

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's got to keep me as a vegetable in

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<v Speaker 3>her house. So hallie, I've made deals with my best

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<v Speaker 3>friends to try and break in and turn off my

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<v Speaker 3>life support. But yeah, she doesn't want it to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and she'd be fine with it. She sees me stuffer

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<v Speaker 3>every day. I have really bad chronic pain to the

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<v Speaker 3>point like it's really debilitating, and she sees that every day.

1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:45.719
<v Speaker 3>So when it gets that point, should be fine. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she would like to keep me in her house.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it look like for euthanasia? And I asked

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<v Speaker 1>this because it's such a hot debate and I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>so many people talk about it. So many countries don't

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<v Speaker 1>allow voluntary euthanasia and some do. The ones that do

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<v Speaker 1>have this crazy prerequis it where you've you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through these psych tests and be of like a

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<v Speaker 1>stable state of mind to do it. Have you looked

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<v Speaker 1>into that enough now that you know how that would

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<v Speaker 1>look for you where you'd have to go? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>do that at home here in Australia?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you can't. My type of illness wouldn't allow it.

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<v Speaker 3>It would only be allowed for terminal cancer. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure what the laws are in Queensland at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know Melbourne passed it for terminal cancer like

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<v Speaker 3>stage four cancer, so I'd have to do old overseas,

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<v Speaker 3>and the place where i'd do that would be Belgium.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got very loose euthanatial laws, so I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>if it's like that now, but when we're looking into it,

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<v Speaker 3>if you had anxiety or depression, you can get euthanase there.

1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Which is that is I mean that is crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>me because I feel like that is something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can come out of, whereas your condition is different. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been scientifically medically given a deterioration, Whereas it's pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to think you can go in and say I don't

1:15:57.000 --> 1:15:57.839
<v Speaker 1>feel great today.

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<v Speaker 3>There was one story I read in a Facebook group

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<v Speaker 3>about it. This lady her mom passed away and the

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<v Speaker 3>grief was too bad, so she got euthanized.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that is why often it is such

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<v Speaker 2>a hugely debated and controversial conversation, because I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is such a permanent solution, and if it is a

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<v Speaker 2>permanent solution to an impermanent state, then that is why

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<v Speaker 2>I think people feel so so strongly about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think anyone who has seen a family member suffer,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who's seen a family member just waiting to pass away,

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<v Speaker 2>can understand like that that's not a.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to proviy it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrificic.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was watching Mum die, the death rattle everything

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<v Speaker 3>about that, and it just looks so painful, And when

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<v Speaker 3>they've become unresponsive, I'm like, what's the point of watching

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<v Speaker 3>them suffer for like a few days a week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's also frightening, you know, like you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>so sad for your family member, but also like it's petrified. Sorry,

1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:02.080
<v Speaker 2>it's really petrified. I you know, I did the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing with my grandfather, and you just you're like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the point? It doesn't make sense. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that they're the instances that really when the debate and

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation around euthanasia comes up, that there is an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding there yea.

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<v Speaker 1>In your head, how do you know when the timing

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be right for something like that? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what needs to be happening to you and in you

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<v Speaker 1>for you to decide, because it's also not I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck Allie, I can't even imagine it, like the preparation

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to do, like you have to travel

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<v Speaker 1>over somewhere to do it, and not like you can

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and say today's the day. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it like this is Yeah, I can't fathom even asking

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<v Speaker 1>the question. I'm like, how do I even ask you

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<v Speaker 1>that question?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think once I get to a point where there's

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<v Speaker 3>no quality of life, then the decision will be made.

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<v Speaker 3>But until then, it'll be on the raid and it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be talked about. So I think the final decision when

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<v Speaker 3>there's no quality of life, and as you said, you

1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:00.800
<v Speaker 3>have to travel overseas for it, so it's going to

1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:04.240
<v Speaker 3>be such a drawn out process where obviously I'd prefer

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<v Speaker 3>to do it here with all my family and friends

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<v Speaker 3>around me. But yeah, so the process of just getting

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<v Speaker 3>overseas being that unwell, doing all the paperwork, Yes, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be a lot, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of my family too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'll be so much for your family. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also think that there must be some sort of comfort

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that this is a conversation that has

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<v Speaker 2>been ongoing for a long time, even if that comfort

1:18:29.200 --> 1:18:32.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't brought to you know Sally or Brad now, but

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that it's not something that you made a decision

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<v Speaker 2>lightly on, it's something that you've really been considered about

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of how you want to live out your life. Als,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your number one? You have this beautiful bucket list,

1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and you have all these places that you're going to visit.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the most important thing to you over the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight? Great Mexican food.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, there is no better.

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<v Speaker 3>Try not to get typhoid or no.

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<v Speaker 1>The food in Mexico. You'll realize you've never had proper Mexican.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Mexican that we do here is rubbish.

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<v Speaker 3>If they make minced packet Mexican, I'll be really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>How has that Because you've actually traveled a lot, You've

1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:13.280
<v Speaker 1>been to a lot of countries. Okay, two questions. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some things you wish people would know or like?

1:19:15.120 --> 1:19:17.840
<v Speaker 1>What has traveling been like? Is it just ten times

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult to do anything? You have to plan so

1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:20.799
<v Speaker 1>far ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, this trip that I've been planning. My insurance

1:19:26.360 --> 1:19:30.120
<v Speaker 3>company has been fighting me so much so just to

1:19:30.160 --> 1:19:33.760
<v Speaker 3>go overseas. They said they'd cover my medicare and then

1:19:33.840 --> 1:19:38.200
<v Speaker 3>last week they said they wouldn't. So going to the US,

1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:42.920
<v Speaker 3>you obviously need good medical insurance, but also booking hotels,

1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:46.800
<v Speaker 3>like you can't book a wheelchair accessible hotel online, you

1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:49.559
<v Speaker 3>need to email the hotel bookis don't legally have to

1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:52.400
<v Speaker 3>keep your room. So I five book a wheelchair accessible

1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.320
<v Speaker 3>hotel through them. I could rock up and not have

1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:58.160
<v Speaker 3>a roll in shower. So it's truly difficult. I've gotten

1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:01.880
<v Speaker 3>really good at like on airbm looking at zooming on

1:20:02.000 --> 1:20:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the windows and looking out to see if it's a

1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:05.880
<v Speaker 3>two story building or a one story building.

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:09.479
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it takes like four hours to book one

1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.000
<v Speaker 3>hotel and then the airlines home. A wheelchair gets broken,

1:20:13.040 --> 1:20:15.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot jet starts paid me out twenty grand, so

1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:19.559
<v Speaker 3>far from breaking you. And sometimes I'm not even allowed

1:20:19.560 --> 1:20:22.320
<v Speaker 3>on the plane because you're only allowed two people disabilities

1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:25.240
<v Speaker 3>on the plane at once, so if they accidentally bought three,

1:20:25.320 --> 1:20:26.200
<v Speaker 3>you get kicked off.

1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot. When I first had accident, I

1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:35.880
<v Speaker 3>got home and I remember having a full mental breakdown

1:20:36.080 --> 1:20:39.639
<v Speaker 3>because I realized society wasn't built for me, the world

1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:43.120
<v Speaker 3>wasn't built for me, and From that point, I realized

1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:46.000
<v Speaker 3>how hard my life would be, but it's worth it,

1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I get a lot of joy and I feel

1:20:48.840 --> 1:20:51.200
<v Speaker 3>really proud of myself once I planned a really big

1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:55.519
<v Speaker 3>trip like this and I'm there and everything's going okay. Also,

1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:59.400
<v Speaker 3>you just need to roll with the punches, like sometimes

1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I can't after a few days because.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Brad hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like Brad just carries me in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And who pays for Because this is a question I

1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:12.679
<v Speaker 1>was clocking in and I've worked in the hospital system.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. When you have had fourteen years

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of these operations and hundreds of operations, who's paying for them?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to pay for a certain amount or

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<v Speaker 1>does it government?

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<v Speaker 3>So it goes through the oh comprehensive insurance, So in

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales, instead of getting conversation, go to the

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<v Speaker 3>government and then they decide what they'll pay for, so

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<v Speaker 3>all of it's covered. But I still probably spend ten

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<v Speaker 3>twenty grands just for medical curve, like I have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for AMRI the other day, and as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had like six different places there are aremorrowing in

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<v Speaker 3>my back. It's just two thousand dollars. So like it's

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<v Speaker 3>all the little things that are. It's such an We're

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<v Speaker 3>very lucky in Australia. Oh, Medicare covers a lot. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>legally not allowed to get Medicare as it was from

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<v Speaker 3>a car accident. So I get a Medicare bill every year.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're pretty good. If I don't pay it, they sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of let its lie. But it's just it's so incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>unfair and it's so discriminatory in itself that people who

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<v Speaker 2>are suffering with chronic pain and chronic illness from accidents

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<v Speaker 2>or from injury, that they are still out of pocket.

1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Because often these are people who are now no longer

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<v Speaker 2>able to work because of their injuries, and yet they

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<v Speaker 2>still have to fork out these insane amounts of money

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to live a life or to have

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<v Speaker 2>better mobility. It is such an unfair system. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>it is one of the better ones, it is still

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<v Speaker 2>not fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Alie, what is something that you would want to

1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>leave people? Like, what's a message right now that you

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<v Speaker 1>want people to know? It could be an affirmation, a

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<v Speaker 1>quote you live by, your biggest life lesson that you've

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<v Speaker 1>learned since going through this, Something that people can sit

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<v Speaker 1>there right now and will change the way they think

1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:55.599
<v Speaker 1>that's a.

1:22:55.520 --> 1:22:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Big bish they've actually thought about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sally. I was just laughing because Sally always says when

1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:05.720
<v Speaker 3>people ask her that ten out of ten fun all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I'm like, Okay, that's a good one

1:23:08.520 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 3>to live by. No, if you could change something and

1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you're not happy, change it and do the things you enjoy.

1:23:15.520 --> 1:23:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Like if you're not happy with your job, get a

1:23:17.560 --> 1:23:20.040
<v Speaker 3>job you enjoy, or study something you really want to study.

1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>If you have the opportunity to do so, you should

1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.880
<v Speaker 3>do it. Don't let your own thoughts stop you. Your

1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>life is your life. You don't have to do what

1:23:28.200 --> 1:23:30.679
<v Speaker 3>society thinks. As long as you're not hurting anyone else,

1:23:31.160 --> 1:23:32.799
<v Speaker 3>you can do whatever you want in this life.

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<v Speaker 2>Alice, when it comes to disability, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>is the biggest misconceptions that people.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold that we can't do doggie, that's a wrap that

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<v Speaker 3>we're depressed. That would be the biggest one. Everyone always

1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:51.760
<v Speaker 3>thinks I should be depressed all the time, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the case. Sometimes I live a better life than

1:23:54.560 --> 1:23:56.280
<v Speaker 3>some of my friends. Why do you think that is

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<v Speaker 3>mental health?

1:23:57.200 --> 1:24:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, we cannot understaate, like what a resilient

1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.280
<v Speaker 2>person you are, and how for all the things that

1:24:04.320 --> 1:24:06.519
<v Speaker 2>you've been through that you can have the incredible mindset

1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>that you do have. It's been a privilege to have

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<v Speaker 2>a chat with you today and for you to share

1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>your story. But also, I don't think anyone should have

1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to listen to somebody's challenging story to be able to

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>appreciate the things that they have in their life that

1:24:18.200 --> 1:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>are just not so bad. I don't think we should

1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:22.439
<v Speaker 2>have to draw those comparisons. No, but we do. But

1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that sometimes people do need that reality check.

1:24:25.040 --> 1:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I love that you say that there's

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<v Speaker 2>this understanding, all this thought that people who have a

1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:34.000
<v Speaker 2>disability are depressed, when it's simply just not the case.

1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:36.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's such an ablest view. It's people who take

1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>for granted their own abilities and they think, well, if

1:24:39.439 --> 1:24:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like that, I would be depressed, and that

1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I think really minimizes the feelings and thoughts of people

1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:46.679
<v Speaker 2>who have to deal with disability every day.

1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Allie, when you're off on your adventure, I

1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:53.040
<v Speaker 3>leave in a week today, probably right now I'll be

1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:55.640
<v Speaker 3>on my plot. So genuate a motherfuckers?

1:24:57.600 --> 1:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying to people? Because you did

1:24:59.200 --> 1:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>have a I actually, well, I saw you how to

1:25:01.439 --> 1:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>go in away party and you sort of said, like,

1:25:04.000 --> 1:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I realized there are some people I might not ever

1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>see again.

1:25:06.560 --> 1:25:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I've been cranking a few of my friends, telling them

1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:11.200
<v Speaker 3>that I got to delete everyone's numbers and I don't

1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:13.360
<v Speaker 3>want to talk to anyone, and they've been really sad

1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:16.960
<v Speaker 3>messaging me every day. Be friends, don't worry.

1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I am so stoked for you, and I just hope

1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you have the best couple of years literally that you

1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>can possibly have and enjoy every second. And there's going

1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to be some fucking tumultuous moments, I'm sure, but it

1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:32.479
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you've got a wondful trip plan. Well, you know,

1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>we never finished an episode without our suck and our

1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:36.559
<v Speaker 1>sweet the highs and the lows. Lord, do you want

1:25:36.600 --> 1:25:37.679
<v Speaker 1>to kick it off with your suck?

1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're throwing it to me because you

1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>are still.

1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I could do it.

1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, bring it.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, Okay, Okay, Well I've only been back for one day,

1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>so my suck can only be with the last day,

1:25:49.560 --> 1:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and my suck will be that just that. I'm super jetlagged.

1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I was up all night. I feel wired. I was

1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>like you know, when you're lay there and you're like sleep, sleep,

1:25:57.760 --> 1:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go up before our sleep sleep. And I

1:25:59.360 --> 1:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I can't sleep well on the phone

1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to band on friend Sheridan. So my jet LAG's probably

1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>worse than it's ever been. There, suck.

1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't relate to this. I'm like a fucking what's

1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the right word?

1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:11.120
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't?

1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me you're telling the story?

1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I an anomaly. I don't really get jet lagged. I've

1:26:16.760 --> 1:26:20.080
<v Speaker 2>never experienced like a wide away in somnia jet lag.

1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>You get on a plane, you barely sat down, and

1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you're asleep. I've never seen anything like. It doesn't matter

1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>what it is, how it is, what the position is.

1:26:27.280 --> 1:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>You could have five dogs and kids next to you

1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and you get on and you pass out.

1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could be on that plane where there was

1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the fighting dog and I would sleep the whole time.

1:26:33.960 --> 1:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't if you haven't seen that article, there was

1:26:36.720 --> 1:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple who got sat next to a dog that

1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:40.439
<v Speaker 2>farted the entire plane ride, and now they want a refund.

1:26:40.439 --> 1:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I could have slept through that. I could sleep through anything.

1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>What's the difference with the dog fighting and humans fighting?

1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Humans always fight on planes. You don't go and get

1:26:45.960 --> 1:26:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a refund and see the guy next to me farted.

1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You would ask to move though, wouldn't you?

1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I did?

1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I have been sat on a plane with the person

1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>in front kept faring anyway? Did I sat in their

1:26:56.840 --> 1:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>fart for six hours? Sat breathing in their fart in

1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a little air conditioned tin can? So my wait, did

1:27:04.400 --> 1:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you say to sweet?

1:27:05.560 --> 1:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sweet? My sweet was just geting home to little Delilah.

1:27:08.600 --> 1:27:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Squidlet Burger, who produced a Keisha took care of for

1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the week.

1:27:12.600 --> 1:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Keisha had it for two weeks, and I still he

1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:17.519
<v Speaker 1>missed and producer Keisha looks after her like a bloody princess.

1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But I really missed her. So does that mean that

1:27:19.880 --> 1:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>when she comes back, she's like, I not you again?

1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much?

1:27:22.760 --> 1:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>She has a take me back to Keisha's house.

1:27:24.240 --> 1:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't know who her mum is. Yeah, we know

1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>that Keisha breaks the rules with her. That's why Keisha

1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>lets her do whatever she wants. I put these strict

1:27:33.320 --> 1:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>rules on and Keisha's like she didn't like it, and

1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, she's a dot.

1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Keisha's sitting here looking like she's been victimized. But I

1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>did see you walk her without her thinking on at one.

1:27:42.080 --> 1:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Point all the time. And Keisha takes her swimming every day,

1:27:45.920 --> 1:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>so like she loves it. She's like she's on dog vak.

1:27:48.479 --> 1:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>She lives her best life. Anyway, that was my sweet

1:27:50.479 --> 1:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what it is? And when you think

1:27:51.640 --> 1:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>about it, Keisha's just the cool auntie. Yeah, she's one

1:27:54.240 --> 1:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. I'm the disciplinarian and she's the Keisha's the

1:27:57.240 --> 1:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>one that lets to do any.

1:27:58.080 --> 1:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Keisha's the cool drunk art that everyone wants to hang

1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>out with. Okay, my suck for the wig is that Lola.

1:28:06.240 --> 1:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I am usually Lola's favorite, right that kid. She is

1:28:09.160 --> 1:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>hardwired to me. I am like her soul and my

1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>soul are conjoined. We do everything together. She is going

1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>to attached many issues, but y yes, she is as

1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:20.360
<v Speaker 2>attached and she loves me and we are the same.

1:28:20.680 --> 1:28:22.599
<v Speaker 2>She's still pretty much hanging out of my womb. That's

1:28:22.600 --> 1:28:24.479
<v Speaker 2>how attached we are with.

1:28:24.479 --> 1:28:28.559
<v Speaker 1>You, Hernia Herniated. No, with my pro labs. She's hanging

1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>on to my pro lab still. She's trying to get

1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>back in my womb.

1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>So I came home from this trip seven days, first

1:28:34.040 --> 1:28:37.360
<v Speaker 2>trip away from the kids, like decent trip, especially international trip.

1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>She didn't care.

1:28:38.680 --> 1:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>As soon as I was out of eyesight, she abandoned

1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>me for Matt. She was like, oh, that parent's gone,

1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>now I need to go to the next one, and

1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:48.000
<v Speaker 2>attached to them. She's literally hanging off Matt's uterus, waving

1:28:48.000 --> 1:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>around off his testicles, trying to get back in there.

1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's okay. She needs some independence.

1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>That's not independence. She has a new favorite.

1:28:58.520 --> 1:29:01.559
<v Speaker 1>No, but that's normal. And you always go through favors

1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>with parents, especially girls. Favorite are usually the dad that's

1:29:05.360 --> 1:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>like across the board.

1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, and that's why I have held on to

1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>being Lola's favorite for so long. And I know because

1:29:11.240 --> 1:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it was always the case, right Like Marley had a

1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>transition when she was like two, she became Daddy became

1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>the favorite, and Daddy's been the favorite ever since. But

1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Lola and I, I am the favorite. And I got

1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>home and even last night when she was in the bar,

1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>she's like, no, Daddy, do it, Daddy, do it? Go away, mummy,

1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Daddy do it. She didn't want me to put in

1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>a bed nothing. Shouldn't you embrace her?

1:29:29.640 --> 1:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>No, because you don't come back.

1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>It makes me feel really sad. It makes me feel

1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>really rejected. I came home and all I wanted. I

1:29:35.280 --> 1:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>even bribed them with lollies and toys and stuff, and

1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>she still was like, Daddy, open it, Daddy, do it.

1:29:39.600 --> 1:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you ungrateful little shit. I didn't say that.

1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, come back to me here. I am

1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>told me like, Daddy's gone away. You've locked him in

1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the basement.

1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:48.599
<v Speaker 1>It's just mummy home now.

1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Daddy went for a run and I was like, Daddy's

1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>left you, He's gone now. He said he doesn't want

1:29:54.240 --> 1:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>to be Daddy doesn't love you, Laura too far.

1:29:58.520 --> 1:30:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that period a. Look, we've spoken about.

1:30:03.439 --> 1:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>This my sweet for the week, though, is I mean

1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I just got back from a week in Bali. That

1:30:09.000 --> 1:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>is my sweet for the week. Honestly, sometime that was

1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the rule.

1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:13.639
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we could go from our sweep from

1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the last week. Obviously mine was sex with Ben. Yeah,

1:30:16.120 --> 1:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have hoped that that was I thought we

1:30:17.880 --> 1:30:20.639
<v Speaker 1>was starting just from yesterday. No, it's from the.

1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Week prior, Like, I don't know, okay, sex Ben, one

1:30:25.200 --> 1:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>day of Sweet.

1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And Delilah, sex with Ben and then coming home to

1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Las not sex with Delilah, sex with Ben Comma space,

1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and also seeing Dalilah grammar, okay, punctuation.

1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, Look, my sweet for the week is I

1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>felt really worried about going away and spending so much

1:30:40.800 --> 1:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>time without the girls, And like I said earlier, I

1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:44.640
<v Speaker 2>do feel like I have to justify. You know, it

1:30:44.680 --> 1:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>was for work, and it was a work trip and

1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:49.559
<v Speaker 2>we worked every single day. But that is what my

1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>sweet was. It was so amazing to have serious quality

1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>time to focus on getting through work for Tony May.

1:30:56.479 --> 1:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And also just like going with my sister, who's my

1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:01.439
<v Speaker 2>other business part Like, you know, my sister and I

1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>are both business partners on Tony May and being able

1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:08.479
<v Speaker 2>to focus. And when you're a working mum and your

1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:13.519
<v Speaker 2>concentration is always split across parenting and working, you often

1:31:13.560 --> 1:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>feel like you're not doing any job well right. You

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you're doing a shitty job at your work

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<v Speaker 2>and a shitty job at parenting and just a shitty job,

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<v Speaker 2>and that always leads you feeling a little bit defeated.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week where I actually felt like I did such a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking good job at my job for one week, And yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I had kind of like almost completely checked out of

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<v Speaker 2>parenting except for a few crazy ass facetimes. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's really important that as mums and as working mums,

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<v Speaker 2>we allow ourselves those opportunities to be able to tap

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<v Speaker 2>back into what's important to us alongside parenting, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think often dads can do it. I mean, I see

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<v Speaker 2>my sister's husband goes away on work trips quite a

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<v Speaker 2>bit because his job requires it, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that we have the same expectations around the guilt that

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<v Speaker 2>we feel when it comes to a dad traveling for

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<v Speaker 2>work verse when a mum has to do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really amazing What I'm hearing is every

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<v Speaker 1>month you need to go away from a week to BALI.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the message I'm geting.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, guys, that is it from us. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>back on Thursday with our Ask Uncut. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>any amazing ask Guncut questions, any big, deep, juicy, saucy,

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<v Speaker 2>ah sexy dilemmas, we will answer them. Also, just a

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<v Speaker 2>little reminder, it is the podcast Awards coming up and

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<v Speaker 2>we would love it if you love the podcast to

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<v Speaker 2>go and jump into the show notes on today's episode,

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be a link there you can go and vote

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<v Speaker 2>for Life on Cut in the Listener's Choice award. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're begging you. No, we're not be cool cool we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we don't ever get nominated for anything. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to got that cuts so deep. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't ever get a nomination in our category.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we try so hard, we just never get You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta laugh right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because it doesn't matter. It's you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>the bureaucracy and the politics of matters.

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<v Speaker 1>The Li's Choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the only award that fucking matters. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, guys, if you love the pod, go vote.

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<v Speaker 2>We would love you forever. And also, Britt will give

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<v Speaker 2>you a puppy. I know you say that every year.

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<v Speaker 2>People know I don't give them puppies. It's been four

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<v Speaker 2>years you've said we give puppies out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the people who voted four times, eventually they

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<v Speaker 2>will receive four puppies. That's gonna be a real handful.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing worse than no one's pupping this dog.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you can vote from multiple emails, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a university email, if you have an old

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<v Speaker 1>school hot mail. Have you voted, ge Laura?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the more emails you vote from, the more puppies

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<v Speaker 2>you get.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is from us guys. Yeah nah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will Laura, that vote could be the decider.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll vote now.

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<v Speaker 1>And from Tony mate, don't forget to your mum, Doy, Dad, Doe, dog,

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<v Speaker 1>two friends and shann love because.

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<v Speaker 2>We love them.

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<v Speaker 1>If we lose by one vote, you're fine. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do this podcast with myself? Hey, guys, that's Brett.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Keisha's just waiting in the wings.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like he no, Britt and Kisha Okay, bye by baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Can A the Company A.

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<v Speaker 1>Thea al Bay, the