Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: It's Flex and Frooms and our producer Brook. It's actually
Speaker 2: just gone to the toilet.
Speaker 1: She's abandon us for a little tinkle. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: I was thinking broadly. I was going to talk about
Speaker 1: it with you on the show, but I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to formulate what the thought is. But I had a
Speaker 1: situation recently where someone was struggling near me, like in
Speaker 1: physical pain, and didn't say anything because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to disrupt the vibe I hate. And I was so
Speaker 1: sad because I was like, do you don't think you're
Speaker 1: more important than the vibe? Do you really think that
Speaker 1: we'd put you in a position where your comfort is
Speaker 1: less important than the vibe? You're insane, so never be me. No.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out, like what is what
Speaker 1: is the moral of the story, you know, like being
Speaker 1: an attention or could save your life. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it is worth drawing attention to you and
Speaker 1: taking it away from something else just for the moment
Speaker 1: you're deserving of being seen. Maybe don't request it from everyone,
Speaker 1: but definitely like you're in a circle, they got you.
Speaker 1: It's really like painting me how I'm like observing people
Speaker 1: feel alone. I'm seeing a lot of that on my
Speaker 1: time when at the moment I'm like, damn, you guys
Speaker 1: really need a group chat or a best friend.
Speaker 2: Yeple and friends Keeter, Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: In very exciting news, my father turned sixty six a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the big dog, big dog.
Speaker 2: Old loving it though. I just had this thought, you know,
Speaker 2: my I remember when I was born and my parents parents.
Speaker 2: I thought my parents' parents are so old. But if
Speaker 2: I have a baby now, my parents would be babe
Speaker 2: age that my grandparents were scary. Life. Life happens, guys.
Speaker 1: It definitely does continuously like happening unbeknownst to us and
Speaker 1: without our consent.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I live in just from my parents, So what
Speaker 2: do I do. I didn't organize a present for my dad.
Speaker 2: I'll say I'm gonna get some cupcakes, and uber Emm says, nah,
Speaker 2: none of that fancy shit. He likes the cupcakes that
Speaker 2: just have pink icing and smiley faces.
Speaker 1: He's one of mine.
Speaker 2: It's a simple man.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like you.
Speaker 2: Very specific food taste. Doesn't drink milk.
Speaker 1: Either, but I'm thinking of getting back into it because
Speaker 1: I want to eat crunchy nuts cereal, and the internet
Speaker 1: said my only alternative is water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to give or some people do
Speaker 2: orange juice. And anyway, Mum goes to the local bakery
Speaker 2: and gets these little tiny muffins, twelve of them. What
Speaker 2: happens later that night everyone with me.
Speaker 1: Gash stroke, three star health raaking go.
Speaker 2: Our family friends are over and everybody eats them, eats
Speaker 2: the cupcakes. My mom doesn't have one. But then once
Speaker 2: once everyone's gone, she like has a little bite on.
Speaker 2: There's stale. I'm not just stale. They are repugnant. My
Speaker 2: mum is so upset and embarrassed that she's just fed
Speaker 2: all of these guests these absolutely rancid cupcakes, and she goes, nope,
Speaker 2: I'm not having any other slove, goes down to the bakery.
Speaker 1: Oh. I thought she would have called the guests back
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, f yi, I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened there. That wasn't one of mine, that was one
Speaker 1: of theirs.
Speaker 2: So she doesn't let the guests be Instead, she's going
Speaker 2: straight to the source, walks over to the bakery the
Speaker 2: next day, demands a refund. Yeah small business, no ah.
Speaker 1: No, listen if medium franchise, franchise.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, your bakery. She didn't demand she's not a.
Speaker 1: Full time on card Yeah yeah no.
Speaker 2: But I mean that they were so bad that even
Speaker 2: my dad was like, oh, they're not good, and like
Speaker 2: he doesn't really have a palette. He just consumes, you know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't taste, he just hates. So basically got me thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, like most of the cupcakes had already been eaten.
Speaker 2: You know, she's bringing like half cupcake back to be.
Speaker 1: Like true, she's a stale the day later too, So
Speaker 1: how do you even know? How do we even know?
Speaker 2: But my big question is, FLEXI, you've eaten majority of
Speaker 2: the meal and you find a hair or you realize
Speaker 2: that it's actually gross, do you send it back?
Speaker 1: Is this why you told that whole story?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, let me let me paint the scene for you. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're sitting down at a restaurant. Let's say no boo,
Speaker 2: let's not say a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Let's redact.
Speaker 2: You're sitting down at a restaurant that you really like.
Speaker 2: That's like relatively good. It's not a chain restaurant, it's
Speaker 2: a local restaurant, but it's expensive. You sit down, put
Speaker 2: a napkin over your lap. Audio food, ravioli. The ravioli turns.
Speaker 1: Up, vodka pasta could change.
Speaker 2: The vodka pasta shows up your little sifting true trying
Speaker 2: to get the source all of their thing. You see
Speaker 2: a hair Oh, I'm not a regular hair. Oh it's
Speaker 2: always pubic. That's the rule of hair and food. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it always comes from the pubic, came from below, And
Speaker 2: you think South Pole, what do you do? Do you
Speaker 2: send it back? Let's say you're you've got one quarter left,
Speaker 2: You've seen it right last minute. Do you send it
Speaker 2: back for a new or do you just ask for
Speaker 2: a refund.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't send it back for hair. I think that's
Speaker 1: just part of the risk you take when dining out.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I have watched a couple of chef shows
Speaker 1: in my life, and a lot of them just raw
Speaker 1: dogging it, like no gloves and just hair out. So
Speaker 1: I understand the land of the land. What I will
Speaker 1: send back every time, dirty dishware, dirty carp I. Don't
Speaker 1: care if it smells funny. If I'm catching a little
Speaker 1: residue of like a bit of dry what do what
Speaker 1: you call dried water? What's that called? Anyway? Do you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? I think so, the dried water
Speaker 1: and the glass, I'm sending it back. I'm sending it back.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you though? Really quickly? I was in Hobart,
Speaker 1: went to my favorite restaurant. It will not be named.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, you know, shout out
Speaker 1: to Hobart. I take my two friends there. They one
Speaker 1: is vegan, vegetarian ish, you know, oscillates are the ones
Speaker 1: a trough heill eat whatever. So we order. I ordered
Speaker 1: a bunch of food for everyone. Now that my Palett's evolved,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know how to do this. The food
Speaker 1: gets here and something's off. Now I've come here so
Speaker 1: many times, maybe ten, so I know what it should
Speaker 1: look like. It's not looking that way. The plating is different.
Speaker 1: But specifically I ordered corn for my vegan friend and
Speaker 1: the corn came on a bed of meat. Assorted me.
Speaker 1: I never seen this before. I never seen this. So
Speaker 1: as I pick up the corn by the skewer, the
Speaker 1: cop no no, no, by a little it's had a
Speaker 1: little skewer in it. I picked it up. I said,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess it's fine. I put it on
Speaker 1: her plate. The waiter comes, He's like, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: that's not your food. I'm so sorry, it's not your food.
Speaker 1: Takes the corn I took off plate, assembles it back
Speaker 1: on the plate, goes to the next table. Hi, this
Speaker 1: is your food. Couldn't be me.
Speaker 2: It couldn't be me.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be me, Babe, I trust me. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: trust me. You're anyway. At that point, I said, I
Speaker 1: wish I was more of a vigilante, but I said,
Speaker 1: every man for himself to my.
Speaker 2: Community, it's better over here. Flex and rooms on kater Flexi. Recently,
Speaker 2: I was talking about intrusive thoughts right correct now. Over
Speaker 2: the last few weeks, I've decided I actually want to
Speaker 2: rephrase that term because I actually don't think what I'm
Speaker 2: experiencing is intrusive thoughts, because true intrusive thoughts are just
Speaker 2: that they're intrusive, and they're often disturbing or upsetting. And
Speaker 2: my intrusive thought being the fact that I'm having a
Speaker 2: dance off with a family that owns a milk.
Speaker 1: Bar reoccurring some spontaneous thoughts or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's a what's it called? Not an intrusive thought? It's
Speaker 2: an impulsive thought? Anyway. I had a listener submission about
Speaker 2: what it could be. It's from a woman called Sophie,
Speaker 2: I consider her long term employee. Thank you, Sophie for
Speaker 2: your wack. She goes are the intrusive thoughts that aren't
Speaker 2: intrusive in bunny rabbits. I think the correct psychological terminology
Speaker 2: is recurring thoughts or recurring thought patterns highly associated with OCD.
Speaker 2: But we all have these thoughts, and it's safe to
Speaker 2: say we don't all have OCD. Anyway, Illi, boss, have
Speaker 2: a great day.
Speaker 1: X love that message. I really there are a few
Speaker 1: things I appreciate more than when people take the time
Speaker 1: out to continue the conversation with us, like that thing. Well,
Speaker 1: let's say we disagree on how to pronounce a word
Speaker 1: and someone's like, it's actually this. I'm like, yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: that's helpful, Thanks for actually listening. You know what?
Speaker 2: An absolute pleasure? Unbeknownst to me, or rather against my will,
Speaker 2: anxiety seems to come up as a concept here on
Speaker 2: the flex and from show we do talk about philosophy
Speaker 2: against your will? No, not really, but you just talk
Speaker 2: about what you see, you know. I feel like, hmm,
Speaker 2: now I'm having anxiety. No, no, I'm joking. I'm joking. Essentially,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out a new dictionary for how
Speaker 2: to talk about what I experience that gives power to
Speaker 2: how it actually feels, the specifics of it, not the
Speaker 2: broad like it's broadly a thought.
Speaker 1: No no, no, it's a very specific thing that's happening here.
Speaker 2: So instead of using the term anxiety and intrusive thoughts,
Speaker 2: and I must say this is off my own back.
Speaker 2: No one has called me in or out on this one.
Speaker 2: It's more rather a self censoring technique. I want to
Speaker 2: bring back worry. Yeah, let's talk about being worried. Let's
Speaker 2: say on a.
Speaker 1: It's nice to admit that I said it the other
Speaker 1: day to someone I'm really worried, like about a certain situation.
Speaker 1: She's like, there it is, You're dancing around it. You
Speaker 1: need I feel I think, No, no, not there it is,
Speaker 1: You're worried, I said, Damn.
Speaker 2: I do wonder though, if we need to come up
Speaker 2: with a whole new term, because even the term worried
Speaker 2: gives me a little top like reminds you of a toddler, like, oh, worry?
Speaker 2: What like worried sounds like obviously? Okay. Anxiety can be
Speaker 2: a disorder. It also can be a feeling. You can
Speaker 2: feel anxious about having anxiety or proper but it doesn't
Speaker 2: how do I feel distressed? No, distressed is like panic
Speaker 2: stations and.
Speaker 1: Worries, concerned, apprehensive, destray, doubtful.
Speaker 2: Nah, it's not giving.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I think maybe you'd be better off honoring
Speaker 1: like the complexity of the feeling as opposed to trying
Speaker 1: to squish it down into like a really clean word.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm thinking. Let's say I feel
Speaker 2: whatever way about a situation and I go to my
Speaker 2: best friend, and I will say worry or anxiety based
Speaker 2: on how I want them to react and help me. So,
Speaker 2: if I go to my best friend and I say
Speaker 2: I'm really anxious about this thing, I'm wanting her to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, don't be silly, like da da da oh.
Speaker 2: For reason, if I go to her and say I'm
Speaker 2: really worried about this, then it's like this is something
Speaker 2: that we need to fix. This is something like to me.
Speaker 1: When your intention based language it is like when you're worried.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's more associated with something that you
Speaker 2: actually should be worried about, whereas anxiety is like something
Speaker 2: being like, Oh, don't be silly.
Speaker 1: They do say only fifteen percent of the things we
Speaker 1: worry about actually happen, so should we even be worried.
Speaker 2: As I've said previously, my mind is let you go
Speaker 2: into the fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my mind said, Hey, babe, statistics are real
Speaker 1: over here.
Speaker 2: Love good to think about. I reckon, but I would
Speaker 2: like to think about more intentional words. Not for any reason.
Speaker 2: I think you should be able to use whatever words
Speaker 2: you want when you're talking about your leved experience.
Speaker 1: But I disagree. Really yeah, I don't think English is
Speaker 1: the most helped full language. I think it's full of
Speaker 1: contradictions as a foundation. I mean the fact that we
Speaker 1: have a bunch of noises that sound similar but don't
Speaker 1: mean similar things, and that words that sound that they
Speaker 1: should mean something don't mean what they mean or and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's not helpful. But also I think
Speaker 1: there is a lot of power and saying what you mean,
Speaker 1: especially when you want to be understood as intended. And
Speaker 1: then sometimes I think that we feel really misunderstood, but
Speaker 1: we don't feel like it's our responsibility to like make
Speaker 1: people understand. Like if you don't get you don't get it.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, how are we going to find the
Speaker 1: words so you get it? Because I can't be in
Speaker 1: this hole alone. I need you to understand. That's why TikTok,
Speaker 1: you know, it's when you're speaking to someone.
Speaker 2: Sorry you say, that's why TikTok's so popular. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: they find specific feelings.
Speaker 1: Fuzzy wrecking ball, you know, when you when you're talking
Speaker 1: to someone like maybe like you're venting or not even venting,
Speaker 1: but like just like commiserating or like getting a thought
Speaker 1: or like debriefing even right, and you maybe I say like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just worried that if I say
Speaker 1: something it's going to give her the wrong impression. And
Speaker 1: then someone's like, oh, so, like you're scared. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't say that. Don't paraphrase like I'm telling you in
Speaker 1: so many words how I'm feeling. Don't try and make
Speaker 1: us sound simple. I'm really stressed because if I go
Speaker 1: to work tomorrow and I'm not prepared I'm going to
Speaker 1: feel like I'm insignificant at my job, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to feel like people are judging me. Sounds like you
Speaker 1: need a break. That's not what I said. Yeah, facts
Speaker 1: like I said. All that I said so you would
Speaker 1: understand what I'm going through, you know I do. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you just hit them like, yeah, that sounds really hard.
Speaker 2: Sorry that you're going through that. Love what I do
Speaker 2: want to do because sometimes I listen to the podcast
Speaker 2: back to go to sleep?
Speaker 1: Do you do that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Quecki?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, wait, there's a word that I try to say,
Speaker 2: the lashievious.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's that word? I'm gonna get this up.
Speaker 1: Here we go, get it up.
Speaker 2: Lacivious feeling or revealing an overt sexual interest or desire. Ready,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: Lascivious. Can you read the definition again? Serous? No? You
Speaker 1: what's the definition? Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait wait, it's saying it wrong. Hold on, why is
Speaker 2: it servious? It's lacivious? Hold on a second, guys signing it? Wait,
Speaker 2: everybody'd be quite lascivious?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: It means feeling or revealing an overt sexual interest or desire.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck?
Speaker 2: Hold on? One? Was I just because I was gonna
Speaker 2: say lugivious.
Speaker 1: Hold on, so you you've been feeling that?
Speaker 2: No, I just always want to say lucivious as a word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to feel liscivious, but.
Speaker 2: Just period things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people aren't that lascivious to me?
Speaker 2: Huh? You fucking the dating apps?
Speaker 1: No, there's your shoe. No, I just like I need
Speaker 1: to see people in more in hornier context. I'm just
Speaker 1: standing around in a bar, is like, not inherently horny.
Speaker 1: It's for the girls, you know. It's all right.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how we need to do our Flex and
Speaker 2: Froom's date night.
Speaker 1: I relax by relax.
Speaker 2: Everybody bring a single friend. Let's go fam Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 1: They're the best. What did you oka? Am I the
Speaker 1: asshole for refusing to watch my niece while my sister
Speaker 1: gives birth. That is the question we're answering today on
Speaker 1: Flex and Froom comprehension. Hats on listening, Ears open. I
Speaker 1: seventeen year old male, have an older sister. She's twenty four.
Speaker 1: She has a two year old daughter, and she recently
Speaker 1: gave birth. It was early and unexpected, and our family
Speaker 1: went to the hospital. Everyone except for me, my sister,
Speaker 1: and my mum just expected me to watch my two
Speaker 1: year old niece. I don't know anything about watching kid.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to change a diaper or what
Speaker 1: they can eat. I tried to refuse and leave. I
Speaker 1: also had plans for that day, but my mom basically
Speaker 1: told me if I didn't watch my niece, i'd be grounded,
Speaker 1: and this was an emergency, and that I was being selfish.
Speaker 1: I left anyways, and now I'm grounded. My sister won't
Speaker 1: talk to me because my mom had to stay home
Speaker 1: with my niece. She's not happy either. I don't think
Speaker 1: i'm the asshole. I don't have any experience with the kid,
Speaker 1: and I already had plans that day. My mom was
Speaker 1: there for my niece's birth, so I don't know why
Speaker 1: it's so important to be there for the second.
Speaker 2: He really said.
Speaker 1: He said, life is hard for young boys.
Speaker 2: Let me stay home and play Xbox with the bros.
Speaker 1: Is he the asshole? I know you want me to
Speaker 1: say yes, but I don't think he is. Have you
Speaker 1: met seventeen year olds generally? Yes? Have you met seventeen
Speaker 1: year old youngest siblings? Siblings who have never had to
Speaker 1: look after another sibling before they don't have those tools.
Speaker 1: They don't have those skills, and I can imagine in
Speaker 1: a situation like this, he'd be purposely obtuse and would
Speaker 1: actually put that kid in more danger by gradually looking
Speaker 1: after him. Now, I will say, if you know you're
Speaker 1: going to give birth, some people don't happens accidentally on
Speaker 1: the toilet more than you think, more than you think,
Speaker 1: actually it does.
Speaker 2: Why is it always in hungry jacks?
Speaker 1: Huh you heard of that? No, haven't.
Speaker 2: You're at caf scene or a McDonald's. I've heard that one.
Speaker 2: I think comes around every six months. Okay, woman has
Speaker 2: accidental baby in toilet of McDonald's. Yeah, what a way
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: I love that. If you know you're going to give
Speaker 1: birth to a child, you kind of have a vague
Speaker 1: idea of when that's coming up. Let's get some some
Speaker 1: things put in order, like I don't know, maybe a babysitter,
Speaker 1: a family friend you trust, you know to be able
Speaker 1: to get that on lock. Can you really give birth
Speaker 1: stress free knowing your delinquent, obtuse younger sibling has take
Speaker 1: has to look after your current baby. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I just say bring the baby to the hospital. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: show it what life looks like whilst occurring.
Speaker 1: I guess two year olds need a lot of like attention.
Speaker 2: Dreckon the two year old child's ever seen its youngest
Speaker 2: sister get born in a hospital setting?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Out of the I reckon?
Speaker 2: What about it? The sun roof?
Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna say sun roof desirian Ah.
Speaker 2: At a later date, I want to talk about how
Speaker 2: that offends some people. I put a meme on my
Speaker 2: story a while ago about how like it was, like,
Speaker 2: it's not your birthday, like you came out of a sunroof.
Speaker 1: Babes related though, when I went up dressed up as
Speaker 1: a blue person for Halloween, it was a slightly avatar related.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to a blue person. They wanted to
Speaker 1: do it for fun. I went to a house party
Speaker 1: there happened to be a baby there part of a
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar Jesus costume. Don't ask. I held the baby
Speaker 1: for a photo, took a photo, posted it. I said,
Speaker 1: guess what my costume is? Someone said postpartum depression. I
Speaker 1: liked it. Or why am I getting canceled? Why are
Speaker 1: you making jokes about postpartum depression? I said, Babe, Babe,
Speaker 1: do I have to explain that there's no joke. There's
Speaker 1: no joke, And now when I explain it, I look crazy.
Speaker 1: It's avatar James Cameron. You've been listening to the Flex
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