WEBVTT - Mikaela Testa Brings The Receipts 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.000 Before we get into the episode, we want to issue 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.680 a trigger warning as we touch on issues around domestic 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:11.479 violence and sexual assault. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.720 your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.160 twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and we have a 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.759 big episode today. We are going to be unpacking the 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.239 Mikayla Tester and Anna and Addas Pol drama that has 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.600 exploded on YouTube over the weekend. So, Mikayla Tester has 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.479 shared some very disturbing insights into her relationship with the 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.240 Pol family. In a two and a half hour podcast 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.040 episode shared to YouTube, the Only Fans creator leveled some 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.080 very serious allegations against the TikTok stars. Before we get 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.519 into it, we want to reiterate that at this stage, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.680 these are just allegations that are being made by Mikayla Tester. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.199 The poles have not yet weighed in officially. Now, Kate, 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.040 can you get us up to speed with what actually 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.200 led to this podcast in the first place. So, last month, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.920 Mikayla released an eight minute expose on Anna and Attis Paul, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.400 which caused the Internet to explode. So for some background, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.240 Mikayla dated at us for several years before they broke 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.759 up in twenty twenty two, and within the first weeks 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.160 of dating, Mikayla moved in with a Paul family and 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.440 really did become a family member. Well. She was particularly 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.480 close with Anna and they labeled each other best friends. Yeah, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.800 they were all very close. So initially on TikTok, Mikayla 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.000 leveled serious allegations against Adis, which we have not been 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.119 able to report on for legal reasons. But those allegations 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.520 are all over TikTok and have not been censored, so 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.120 I think everyone is up to speed what those allegations are. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.200 Pouls are yet to actually address any of those allegations. No, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.880 when Anna put out her apology, she didn't touch on 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.160 anything to do with her brother. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:40.560 No. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.800 Yeah. Well, as for the claims against Anna, Mikayla accused 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.959 her of incentivizing her underage fan base to sign up 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.720 to her OnlyFans account with the lure of a cash giveaway, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.400 lying about growing up poor, as well as calling a 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.560 fan fat and sweaty, and in a statement, Anna claimed 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.720 that she felt poor at the time and that she 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.720 called the fan sweaty but not fat. Now, Michayla started 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.200 the podcast by providing some disclaimers, and the first being 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.560 that she is not in trouble legally. She also confirmed 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.040 that the Paul's legal team have not contacted her, and 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.160 I felt that this was a really clever move by 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.680 Mikayla to strengthen her claims, as when it comes to defamation, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.639 the truth is a defense. I thought that was really 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.720 interesting insight into how the Paul family work, because I 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.160 think everybody assumed looking in that they would have been 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.080 completely lawyered up, that they would have reached out to 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.840 Mikayla Tester. Yeah, it's not really a good look, is 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.440 it now. The second disclaimer that Michayla put out there 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.239 was that the podcast was not being monetized, and that's 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.200 despite the fact that she had been offered paid opportunities. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.280 She was also offered to appear on a number of 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.200 other podcasts, but she made the decision not to monetize 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.400 it because she said she didn't want to profit off 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.520 trauma and abuse, which I thought was a really good move. Yeah, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.880 it's a very clever strategic move because it makes her 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.400 claims more valid as well. Yeah, and I think she 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.640 was predicting that a lot of people would go on 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.240 TikTok and say, oh, she's full of shit because she's 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.480 making money off this podcast. I do think an alternative 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.920 move that she could have made was actually to monetize it, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.760 but say that all of the money was going to 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.480 a woman's charity. Sometimes that opens up the door for 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.320 people to scrutinize father, like it's the wrong charity, or 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.880 she hasn't given the full amount, or you know, remember 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.959 when Sarah's Day raised that money for bushfire victims, And 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.800 even though she did donate all of the money, everyone's 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.440 like she didn't do it soon enough. Yeah, well, sadly, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.440 the final disclaimer came in the form of Michayla saying 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.280 that she's not the perfect victim. So Mikayla gave some 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.280 insight into her childhood. She explained that she grew up 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.080 in an abusive environment with a teen mum who was 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.480 a drug addict and also a stepdad who abused her. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.120 What I found fascinating is she spoke about how she 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.200 was one of seven kids and that she grew up 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.560 quote dirt broke and wouldn't have food because her mum 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.560 spent money on drugs. And it just made me think 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.840 about how annoyed she must have been sitting there. Well, 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.800 Anna Paul was trying to perpetuate this image that she 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.640 grew up paor when that was actually Michayla's reality. It 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 really it seems like Anna was cosplaying Mikayla's life and 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.840 using her personal stories to build this narrative about herself 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.920 that would garner sympathy and interest. He was so sad 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.119 because Michayla also touched on the fact that she finally 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.520 met her biological father when she was fourteen, but sadly, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.120 he died of cancer when she was eighteen. Yeah, that 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:20.640 really broke my heart because it felt like she was 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.880 finally in a good place with her dad and then 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.719 that happened. I do think it was really clever of 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.240 the way that she prefaced her childhood at the start 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.560 of this video so listeners could actually make sense of 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.680 her actions. And it did upset me that she kept 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.920 having to apologize and say that she blamed herself, because 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.920 it's clear throughout her life she has been a victim 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.000 of abuse. I was just in aura of how she 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.640 was able to speak so confidently in this video and 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.960 how likable she came across. Sadly, I think if she 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.279 hadn't made all of these disclaimers, though, there would be 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.719 a section of people who would say that she's just 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.760 as bad for perhaps being a bystander in this because 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.919 I mean, we will go further into it, but she 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.880 played unseen videos, but you can hear her voice in 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.919 the background having directions. It was quite interesting because she 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.200 also said that she thinks that she suffered from Stockholm 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.800 syndrome during this experience with the polls, which we will 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.680 further dive into. But yeah, there were a lot of 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.080 disclaimers which were very important. I think I do want 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.200 to applaud Makayla because it would have been hard opening 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.000 up about her personal life, but it was really clever 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.400 because it made you empathize with her and understand what 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.719 triggered her to call out Anna on claiming that she 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.520 grew up poor. And I really enjoyed the receipts that 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.240 Mikayla provided in this YouTube to prove that Anna did 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.720 not grow up poor. Not only did she label Anna's 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.200 claims as a sham, a light, and an exaggeration, she 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.400 shared countless photos to back up her claims. I think 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.640 the most damning ones were the ones of Anna and 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.240 Adis as kids living in the waterfront home, and then 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.360 later on as teenagers showing that they were in that 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.800 same home. I just loved her pointing out she's like 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.800 brand name, brand name. They always had Starbucks, they were 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.080 out for cafes with their mom. My favorite one was 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.560 when she was saying, oh, Anna thinks that she grew 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.800 up poor because her first carve a hold an aster. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.720 And then Mikayla ended up bringing up a Google Maps 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.400 photo from back in the day showing the family van 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.440 that she used to have to drive to school in 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.960 which looked like I had was broken down, like it's 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.600 seen better days. Oh that made me laugh. The crazy 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.320 thing is all of these photos were readily available on 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.480 Anna's own Instagram account, Like why did she not delete them? 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.560 And how come it's only until now that these have 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.360 been brought up. Look after this whole ordeal, you think 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.200 you'd go and do a bit of a delete on Instagram? 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.200 Would Yeah? But is it that she's so delusional that 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.560 she thinks that that was growing up Paul? She is 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.080 she trying to claim that a lot of the designer 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.440 goods were fake? Because didn't you say that a dead 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.520 Hans used to go to garage sales or sell fake 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.760 style and that she sat on first class but she 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.480 was only there for a second or something. I mean, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.520 maybe she doesn't think Michael Kore's is as good as 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.599 a Rolex. You have you guys seen those tiktoks popping 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.800 up and it's a guy who's imitating Addis Paul his 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.640 videos from twenty twenty two, and it's like, I am 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.480 so rich, fuck you all like this and how rich 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.599 I am? This is my twenty one million dollar watch. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.680 I think what was so apparent during this video is 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.280 how clever Mikayla test is because she understands Anna's fan 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.200 base and what an absolute ace it would be if 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.400 she had the backing of Anna's beloved ex, Glenn Thompson. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.360 And not only did Mikayla reveal that Glenn helped her 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.000 during her personal experiences of abuse, but that he also 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.080 supports her. Now. He sounded so lovely, like you just 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.000 got a vibe that he was that one person that 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.160 Michayla could have actually confided in during that experience. And 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.120 she was really respectful of Glenn, which I think was 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.120 another strategic move because she knew if she started outing 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.760 all of her text messages between Glenn. Then that would 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.240 not be seen favorably with our fan. It would also 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.600 get Glenn offside as well, and that lend to more 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.680 drama where maybe he could have provided receipts about Mikayla Well. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.760 She ended up sharing screenshots from a conversation with him 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.120 that supported her claims. Mikayla also alleged that Anna constantly 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.160 fat shamed Glenn. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.080 This is what she said Anna behind Glenn's back to 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.080 me and my entire friend group that we were we had, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:08.000 you know, Anna, Me, Lilith, Chloe Bailey. She would call 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.280 Glenn fat on the daily. She'd call him fat every 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.640 single day. She'd fat shame him. She'd fat shame him 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.480 with her mom. It was mostly like attis Anna Mama. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.720 This was the times that I recall in person her 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.160 saying this. She'd be talking shit in German about Glenn. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.120 Okay, I heard it, and I also heard her just 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.760 talking shit to me and my friend group in English 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.679 as well about Glenn being fat. It was very fucked 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.960 to witness, and I'm swear to God no word of lie. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.840 She was saying this about Glenn and Glenn's family for years, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.240 like one time she came back from a trip in 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.200 Balley with Glenn and all of Glenn's family members, and 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.720 she had made a really fucked up comment about how 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:48.520 they wear shower curtains to the day clubs and Anna's 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.920 in a Bikinian it feels so awkward because they're so fat, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.680 and she literally thinks that his family's jealous of her. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.480 It was just really bizarre, like she'd be. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:57.800 It was just like. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:03.080 An unspoken thing that attis her and Mama hated Glenn's family, 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.480 and it was always like a them verse, like their 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:07.400 family verse. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.280 Glenn's family sort of thing. Like it was just really 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:13.559 fucking weird. Michayla's obviously putting this out there because she's 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.080 trying to back up her original claim saying that Anna 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.960 called a fan fat, so she's trying to demonstrate that 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.240 this is a pattern of behavior and language that she 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.360 used quite comfortably. It's particularly awkward because for a number 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.000 of years Anna Paul portrayed herself as this body positivity advocate, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.839 and the fact that Glenn lost so much weight after 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.840 he and Anna broke up, it really makes you think, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.199 what about when Michaela said that the whole family had 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.880 to take part in fasting as this plot to make 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.160 Glenn thinner without making him feel bad, and then Michaela 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.599 said that she ended up getting this eating disorderfied. I 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.240 also thought it was interesting when Michayla said that Anna 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.760 would lose it if they went to Starbucks and apparently 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.440 Glenn would order a particularly sugary drink and she'd be like, no, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.560 he has to have this one. Like it just painted 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.680 such a picture. And it's these little details that just 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.360 make her story seem so believable because she just couldn't 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.400 make this shit up. Yeah, I can't stop thinking about 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.120 the fact that Anna continued to push this narrative that 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.720 her and Glenn were still best friends after the breakup 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.960 and their families would spend Christmas together. Also Anna giving 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.480 Glenn the car, Well, well, we spoke about this on 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.120 the podcast when they were pretending to be friends, and 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.600 I said, this is bullshit. At the time, no one 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.080 is that close to there. It's all very sas now, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.760 throughout this whole saga, we have had to be really 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.480 careful on how we report on the allegations. Mikayla has 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.880 leveled it addis Paul as they are of a serious nature. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:33.360 After viewing the public court documents that appeared in Michayla's video. Though, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.440 what we can legally say is it appears Adis was 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.920 sentenced in the district Court on the eighth of May 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.960 twenty twenty three. It is unclear the terms of the sentencing. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.280 To be transparent, we have applied to the court to 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.040 view the sentencing document, but at the time of the recording, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.400 we have not received it. It takes seven business days, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.720 so we are hoping to receive the documents soon. What 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.840 has caused some confusion though, is that Adis appeared in 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.640 court under his real name, which is actually Johanna's Theodore Paul. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.000 What does asas come from there? And that's what I'm 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:05.360 so confused about. Is it because it's Johannes Attis, Like 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.880 I don't understand when did he change his name and why? 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.480 It's very yes, And a lot of people have been 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.800 wondering why the media haven't really been on this story. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.280 And I wonder if the media were searching under Addis Paul. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.640 And I love though that michaela went as far as 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.840 to show Addis's Medicare card as proof that this actually 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.800 was his REALCAU. There would be so many people being like, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.680 that's not even his name, someone else. We will go 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.800 into it in more detail a little bit later, but 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.360 his name Johanna's Paul actually appeared on the season desist 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.680 letter that he sent his ex girlfriend. Interestingly, the timing 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.559 of Addis's appearance at the sentencing hearing coincided with him 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.960 leaving social media. So in late April twenty twenty three, 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.760 Addis vanished from social media after uploading a very cryptic 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.400 video of himself walking around at nights smoking. He had 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.520 also unfollowed all of his friends on Instagram, and he 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.439 shared a statement at the time saying social media had 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.520 destroyed his mental health and the Internet was treating him 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.720 like an evil villain. A week later, he then appeared 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.000 in front of the district court for sentencing. So it's 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.839 very interesting timing, isn't it. I think the most chilling 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.120 allegations came at the hour mark of this podcast. So 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.880 Michayla shared her personal experiences with manipulation and abuse within 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:21.000 the Paul family. She also detailed disturbing accounts of alleged 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.960 domestic and emotional abuse and cohersion. So Michayla spoke in 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.160 depth about an incident at the Paul family house, and 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.800 this is where Adis allegedly held a knife to his 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.120 throat and threatened to harm himself if she left. I 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.000 was actually watching this alone late at night, Reese had 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.679 gone to bed, and I actually got quite scared because 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.400 the way she told the story, it felt like you 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.120 were there and watching her all unfold, or she was 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.240 sort of re enacting what happened almost. Mickayla also alleged 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.040 that she was financially abused by Adas Paul So. According 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.760 to Michayla, he was in the process of starting up 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.200 an OnlyFans management company when she first started dating him, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.199 and the plan was for him to met Anna's friends 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.040 on the platform. Mikayla claims that Anna and Adas persuaded 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.880 her to let Addis manage her OnlyFans and it wasn't 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.240 long until Attis was taking a fifty percent cut for 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.480 doing minimal work. And when I say minimal work, according 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.880 to Michayla, the extent of his management was telling her 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.840 what color lingerie to wear to put her into perspective. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.439 When she was nineteen, she was earning one hundred and 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.800 twenty thousand dollars a month from OnlyFans, so Addis Paul 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.120 was taking sixty thousand dollars a month. She also claimed 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.520 that when she threatened to cut Adis off from the earnings, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.000 he would threaten suicide and the situation would turn abusive. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.360 So in one instance, Mikayla alleges, while driving with Addas, 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.800 he slammed on the brakes of his car, causing her 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.760 to hit her head on the windshield. Mikayla did preface 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.000 during this part of the YouTube that when she first 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.000 met Adis, she had a far bigger profile than him, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.480 because I think there is this narrative online that she 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.600 used the polls and she moved in with them to 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.400 grow her own career. But her career was doing really well. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.640 She already had a manager. She didn't need another manner. Yeah, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.000 And what I found particularly difficult to listen to was 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.000 when Mikayla spoke about how Anna and Adas's mother, who 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.360 she referred to as Mama, were allegedly complicit in all 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.160 of this. So Mikayla claims that Anna and Mama enabled 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.760 Addis's behavior. She said that Anna was always defensive of 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:20.120 Adas and excused his behavior despite witnessing this alleged abuse. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.480 According to Mikayla. Anna would emotionally blackmail her to stay 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.160 with Adas, saying things like you're the one that can 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.360 get through to him, no joke, the things you say 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.000 to him could save his life. I saw this TikTok 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.920 pop up focusing on the poll's mom and saying, what 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.120 was mama thinking? In the sense of obviously all of 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.240 the people involved in the story apart from her were 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.400 very young and like there was actually an adult in 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.440 this situation who was just watching this all happen allegedly, Yeah, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.920 and Anna's involvement, like they were talking about how she 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.400 was allegedly recruiting her friends to date Addis and encouraging 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.080 Michayla today Addis so that they could be sisters. Like 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.520 it was all very odd and was very clear that 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.320 they wanted to recruit as many women as possible to 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.240 potentially join this onlyfan management team, because clearly it was 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.120 a way to make huge money during the pandem. It 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.160 was a way for Adas to make money because his 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.320 sister is there making a lot of money off OnlyFans, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.239 and people weren't really interested at the time in subscribing 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.600 to a guy doing OnlyFans, and what really shoped listeners 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.120 was when Mikayla revealed just how close Addis and Anna's 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.120 relationship was in regard to OnlyFans. So she said that 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.720 there was this weird dynamic between Anna, Addis and Mama, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.480 and in her opinion, it seemed like they were all 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.120 co dependent because allegedly they wouldn't spend more than a 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.280 couple of hours apart. It was actually really difficult for 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.720 Michayla to spend alone time with Adis without his mum 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.800 or sister there. They were, in fact, so close that 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.400 Mikayla alleged that Addis shot Anna's only fans content that 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.840 was absolutely fucked and particularly because she backed it up 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.240 by showing one of the photos that Adas took and 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.320 saying that he actually also filmed content where Mikayla and 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.240 Anna did collaborations where presumably they performed sex act. It 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.000 was whatever. It was one of those moments where I 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.200 was like, I don't think the Paul family can come 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.360 back to this, especially becaus has been so many rumors 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.480 about how close Anna and Ashes. Well, there's this video 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.160 floating around on TikTok that Anna uploaded last year that 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.200 has not aged well in light of Mikayla's allegations, Let's 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:15.560 play it. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.640 My brother is my soulmate, and we are so close 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.120 that in high school there was a roomor going around 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.600 that apparently we sleep together, because I think teenagers they 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.080 see a girl and the boy close and they're like, 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.920 oh my god, sex right the guys, what's going on? 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.800 And I'm twenty five and he's twenty three, and we 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.760 are so inseparable. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.680 We've reached us mind. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.720 He's literally my twin. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.480 Most brothers would refuse to take a nice photo of 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.720 their sister, let alone their sister undressing or in these 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.880 positions like, it's just wild to me that this allegedly 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.440 went on. Now. Towards the end of the podcast, Mikayla 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.440 alleged that in twenty twenty one, Adas Paul tried to 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.960 silence his ex girlfriend. We have decided not to name 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.560 her as she was underage at the time. For the 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.840 purpose of the podcast, we will call her Jane. We 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.480 actually did cover this story back in twenty twenty one, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.600 and finally it was our introduction to the Poll family. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.359 I actually listened back to the episode to prep for today, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.000 and I was so embarrassed. It definitely was our first 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.360 introduction to the polls because sometimes we referred to him 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.320 as Addis and other times we referred to him as artists, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.000 and I was like, oh my god. After that episode dropped, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.960 we actually received a message from Mikayla tester threatening to 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.000 sue us, which shows what a full circle moment this 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.800 all is. Yeah, it really does. Now. This whole saga 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.360 started back in twenty twenty one, as we said earlier, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.760 when a then sixteen year old Jane made a TikTok 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.840 about dating an older man who she said took advantage 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.760 of her. Jane didn't refer to the man by name, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.879 but it led people from their hometown to speculate in 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.720 the comments that she was talking about. At us. To 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.239 provide some context, Jane alleges that she was thirteen when 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.480 she dated a then sixteen year old Attis. Now off 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.920 the back of this TikTok, Mikayla alleges that Addis created 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.439 a fake email address and message Jane, pretending to be 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.840 a brand manager, all in a bid to obtain her 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.600 address to send a cease and desist letter. Mikayla also 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.320 claimed that Addis wrote the letter himself, and upon receiving 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.200 the letter Jane immediately shared it to her Instagram story 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.040 and commented how poorly it was written. She was right, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.200 it was very clear that this was not written by 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.439 a lawyer. What is with all these influences pretending to 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.119 be lawyers, Like, surely they have enough money to just 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.199 seek legal help us. 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:25.640 Well. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.920 The letter stated that if Jane didn't immediately stop making 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.760 false and slanderous claims against Adis Paul, that a defamation 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.640 lawsuit would commence against her. Interestingly, as I said earlier, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.800 the letter referred to Adis by his real name, Johannes Paul. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.000 One line that really stood out to me in the 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.200 letter was you must not make false accusations of being 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.080 a victim and accusing Johanna's Paul of pedophilia grooming as 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.520 if it was not consentual. Now, in Queensland, the age 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.080 of consent for having sex is sixteen, so if you 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.359 are under sixteen, you legally cannot give consent. So for 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.240 this legal letter to say, oh, you can't call me 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.399 a pedophile as if it wasn't consentsual, well, you actually 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.399 can't give consent at the age of sixteen, so it 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.119 is a criminal offense to engage in sexual activity with 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.480 a child under sixteen. Queensland laws apply to a range 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.240 of sexual activity, including sexual penetration and touching a person 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.960 in a sexual way, for example, on their breast. Now, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.320