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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: It's not something I would normally watch.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest about that, but I thought I should

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Speaker 3: because I knew we'd be discussing it today. It's a

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Speaker 3: really character it was a character reference by his wife.

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Speaker 3: It was a puff piece to humanize Scott Morrison before

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Speaker 3: our election. And Jenny is such a likable woman.

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Speaker 2: She's lovely.

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Speaker 3: Any woman's going to stand by her spouse. Though during

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Speaker 3: an interview like this, she said a couple of things

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Speaker 3: that like she's it's been her job. In that interview,

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Speaker 3: she spoke more than the Prime Minister did to soften

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Speaker 3: him to say that she felt that Grace Tame had

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Speaker 3: terrible manners. Once again, here we are, you know, expecting,

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Speaker 3: we have this ingrained idea that women need to be polite.

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Speaker 2: Speak your truth, but do it nicely.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where we're going to go with that.

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Speaker 3: Grace was allowed to say exactly she needed to say.

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Speaker 3: She said it exactly as she wanted to say it.

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Speaker 3: She's not going to make nice for anybody enough. I

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Speaker 3: heard your feelings, Jenny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if she she didn't do what she had done,

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Speaker 4: we wouldn't be talking about it. So it's she threw

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Speaker 4: herself onto the funeral pyr Grace Tame did, so there

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Speaker 4: was a broader conversation.

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Speaker 2: And stay true to herself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've got to respect her for that, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: But I do see where Jenny Morrison's coming from as well.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you're supposed to be polite, you know,

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Speaker 4: And we were in very complex and hostile times at

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Speaker 4: the moment. Everyone's on edge.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's fair, of course they are.

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Speaker 3: And the tide has turned on Scott Morrison it seems.

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Speaker 3: And the whole thing was Jenny came out as his

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Speaker 3: secret weapon last night. That's what we were told. Jenny

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Speaker 3: sees secret weapon. So Jenny was the one that spoke

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Speaker 3: about the criticism against him and how it made her

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Speaker 3: and the girls feel. I'm sorry. He's Prime minister. These

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Speaker 3: are his judgments, these are his policies, this is his government.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to make good

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Speaker 3: for him. That's his job.

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Speaker 4: But Scott Morrison is not a populist leader. Bob Hawk

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Speaker 4: populist leader. When Bob Hawk what Australians want to see.

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Speaker 4: They want to see a guy they can scull along

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Speaker 4: a long necker beer and be a true Ossie Alarican.

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Speaker 2: Well, people want to know.

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Speaker 3: What Morrison stands for. He talks about the sharks. He's

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Speaker 3: the daggy dad. He makes a curry. But when you

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Speaker 3: look at his policies, you think, where's the man, where's

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Speaker 3: the humanist? You know, the way we treat the family

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Speaker 3: from Billy Wheeler, the way we treat refugees that where

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Speaker 3: where is his spot?

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Speaker 4: Right now? We're in a pandemic. We're in a worldwide pandemic.

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Speaker 4: The last one we had was one hundred years ago. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so it was one hundred years ago. So we're going.

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Speaker 4: So his thing is he's pragmatic. He's a pragmatist. So

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Speaker 4: he looks there and goes, right now, I've got to

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Speaker 4: deal with this. Everything else pales in comparison, and that's

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Speaker 4: why he's coming.

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Speaker 2: But those other things don't stop.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course they don't stop. But right now you've

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Speaker 4: got to focus on the a game.

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Speaker 2: Be sure, if you say I'm a big Christian, you

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Speaker 2: have to be a Christian across your whole life, of course,

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Speaker 2: not just I choose to be a Christian here and

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Speaker 2: not there.

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Speaker 4: It would be we'd be having a different conversation. If

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Speaker 4: we weren't in a pandemic, is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, what state are we in?

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Speaker 3: And how do we feel about Scott Morrison and Jenny

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Speaker 3: on television last night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we had that they're still paying for the

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Speaker 4: Hawaiian trip.

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Speaker 3: Well that we saw that in the election on the

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Speaker 3: weekend the south coast where the bushfires ripped through, and

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Speaker 3: I've turned against the government.

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Speaker 1: I am more than sorry for if we disappointed, and

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Speaker 1: not if we did disappointed, did we make the right decision?

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Speaker 1: I thought I was making the right decision for my kids.

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Speaker 1: I obviously what's wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's not for her to apologize, she's not the Prime minister.

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Speaker 4: But he's already apologized for it on our show.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't ask well, Carl Stiff and Ivick

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Speaker 3: asked them about it. That's the thing they want, the

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Speaker 3: puff piece. They get asked about it. Sure, I thought

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Speaker 3: this bit was very interesting.

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Speaker 5: I've worn out the carpet on the side of my bed,

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Speaker 5: he particularly down in Tamberra, where I spent most of

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Speaker 5: the pandemic on my knees, praying and praying, praying not

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Speaker 5: just for our response, praying for those who are losing

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Speaker 5: loved ones, praying for those who couldn't go to family funerals,

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Speaker 5: praying for those who were exhausted.

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Speaker 3: I don't doubt for a second the sincerity of that,

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Speaker 3: Having said that, prayers are one thing, but did the

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Speaker 3: policies work? That's what you get judged on. Are your

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Speaker 3: policies during that time talking about aged care et cetera

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Speaker 3: and the rollout of the vaccines. Get your ducks in

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Speaker 3: line and then tell us you prayed, don't do it

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Speaker 3: instead of what about the ukulele? To Bruce, to idea

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Speaker 3: was to have him playing a Hawaiian instrument.

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Speaker 4: I was praying that that would finish