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Speaker 2: It's positive, it's practical, and it's about putting you in

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Speaker 2: the driver's seat of your own life. Are you ready, Nikola,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Rise and Conker Podcast.

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Speaker 3: How are you? I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on. You have been

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Speaker 2: in my life for quite a few years now. I

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Speaker 2: was actually thinking, I was like, I swear I've had

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Speaker 2: her on the podcast, have I? I was like, no, I,

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Speaker 2: but that's how long that you have been in my life.

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Speaker 2: So it's so incredible to have you here. For those

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Speaker 2: who don't know who you are and what you do.

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Speaker 2: Could you give us a brief intro your little elevator

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Speaker 3: Wow. I've been a breath practitioner now for oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to say, over twenty years, and a facilitator therapist

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Speaker 3: for twenty seven and I predominantly work with women, A

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Speaker 3: mom myself of two girls, and married to a my reader.

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Speaker 3: True really, and yeah, life is full. I've had a

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Speaker 3: And I just love everything that I do. And the

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Speaker 3: older I get, the more I'm just just fascinated by people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I adore you because you bring so much wisdom

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Speaker 2: and knowledge the space. Like you said, you've been practicing

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Speaker 2: it so practical and so easy to digest. It's interesting

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Speaker 2: because you know, the breath, it's something we're doing every

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Speaker 2: breath is so important, and I feel like not many

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Speaker 2: transformative it can be. Can you kind of just delve

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Speaker 3: And it's so much here, I think what I want

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Speaker 3: It's a bit like walking into a room and turning

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Speaker 3: Because actually, when we're born, we're born either into love

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Speaker 3: Because of that completely And I am not like I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can come into more focus and conscious

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Speaker 3: I love this. I mean, I think nowadays you look

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Speaker 2: Beautiful and it was exactly what I needed, and it

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think that's such a beautiful thing that

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Speaker 3: And I get that mother's guilt of going back to work.

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Speaker 3: But I think what you did there having that experience

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's both seasons beautiful. But again, like as humans,

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Speaker 2: I had to do a lot of you know, work

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Speaker 2: and release on. And so what's so beautiful about yeah,

432
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Speaker 2: gentle breath is it is something you can like integrate

433
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Speaker 2: in your everyday life. But it's releasing all these not

434
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: that this transition is little obviously behind, Yeah, but it's

435
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Speaker 2: about constantly releasing, constantly feeling these emotions. So again you

436
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Speaker 2: can be in control. They're not controlling you.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And I think I love that those little releases, it's

455
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: almost a contractual before your contraction start, or it's like

456
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: these mini moments of just releasing before you get ready

457
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: for your next so that you can be a mother.

458
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: You know, we often think, how can I love another

459
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: child just the same as this one? Yeah, And that's

460
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: why it's so important to come into that heart state

461
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: so that your heart is fully open and ready, because

462
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: it's just enormous, like the feeling that you get, like

463
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: my gosh, I've got enough room to love another child

464
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 3: just the same, if not more. And actually Ivy will

465
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: feel all of your love because she also gets to,

466
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: you know, move into her new role which she's so

467
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: ready for, isn't she. Yes.

468
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've been really like communicating and talking to her

469
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: about her so I feel like she is.

470
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

471
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: So how else do you use the breath, especially with

472
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Speaker 2: women and like postpartum and motherhood, because I know that's

473
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Speaker 2: something you specialize in.

474
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my actual passion is to work with women

475
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: getting ready for birth and infertility too, because I know

476
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: that's been a big journey for you as well. Is

477
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's all heart centered. You know, creating a

478
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: child or wanting to create a child is all about

479
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: co creation and the creation in your body, and it's

480
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: believing in yourself. It really is. And I think that's

481
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: what I love the most about working with women in

482
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: that stage of life, is you not just you, but

483
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: with your partner as well, because you don't do it

484
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: just yourself, and it's your relationship and it coming from

485
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: a heart space, real depth of your relationship together as

486
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: you go into that co creation. It's the fear, Yeah,

487
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: it's the fear. It's working on it because often people go, oh,

488
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, I know I've got fear, but it's okay,

489
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: I'll be okay, and you're like, no, no, let's tap

490
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: into fear. Because that's really what I love about my

491
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 3: work the most is I get people to understand that

492
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: fear isn't going to just go away. But what if

493
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: fear was what off on the other side of fear

494
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: was possibility? What if it was actually something a bit magical.

495
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: But because we're so scared of what that fear is,

496
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: we don't even even attempt to look at it because

497
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: we'd just rather go, oh, that's the elephant in the room.

498
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with that. But when you're birthing,

499
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: it is right up front and center, and it can

500
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: take a woman into not conceiving because it's so there

501
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: that you just you know how you hear women go

502
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: off have a holiday and then they fall pregnant after

503
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: doing three rounds of IVF and that's because they've kind

504
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: of just gone, we're going to forget about it, We're

505
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: just going to relax and we're actually coming together for

506
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: creation of just being in love. And that can often

507
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: be the case. And then when you're in pregnancy, everybody's

508
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: telling you all their fears about this is how I birth?

509
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: This is So it's there's so many moments of women

510
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: having this fear put on them and it being in

511
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: the room, and they don't know what to deal with,

512
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: how to deal with that. So when I'm using the breath,

513
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: it's more than just breath. It's just remembering. It's remembering.

514
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: So I'll say to a woman, what you know birth?

515
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Speaker 3: What do you think? And they're like, and I'll ask

516
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: them that same question ten times, like birth, what do

517
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: you actually think about birth? And it's like what's under

518
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: the rock, like what's behind the curtains? And when you

519
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: ask somebody that, they're kind of, oh, I'm uncomfortable because

520
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: what's happening is your body's remembering. Actually, I find birth

521
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: quite scary or I feel a bit terrified when I

522
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: think about it, or I feel love or I feel

523
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: you know. So when I'm asking that question, even to myself,

524
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: I'll still remember my own birth in a way with

525
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: it subconsciously. So when you come and you bring the

526
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: breath into that question, we get to tap into what

527
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: if On the end the other side of this fear

528
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: that I'm feeling, there is joy and openness and oneness

529
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: and nature and what if actually it's exciting and what

530
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: if it's magical? And so what we do is when

531
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: we're breathing in all these moments, no matter what your

532
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: outcome of what you want your birth to be, if

533
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: you can meet your fear and send it love and

534
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: like almost hug it and know that you're safe, there

535
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: is so much openness there. And also we forget that

536
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: our babies are being educated in the womb through our

537
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: nervous system, so true in the birth itself, and when

538
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: a baby is born into the world they feel love

539
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: or fear, they've already got a nervous system already set

540
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: preset by the mother. You know how she's feeling. And

541
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: if you're hearing this, you're thinking, oh my god, I

542
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: was a crazy mess with my regnency. I want you

543
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: to know that I totally get it because I've had

544
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: my own experiences of being a bit terrified because of

545
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: my own life experience that you know, we can change it.

546
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: Because when a baby is born and they're greeted and

547
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: they're loved, deeply loved and received, it is a life

548
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: changing experience for that baby. Their baby can be born

549
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: with this agency of I'm here you know, here I am.

550
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: And you look at Ivy and she's got agency, right

551
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: because she's loved. Yeah, Actually, her nervous system knows that

552
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: she has loved.

553
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: She's safe, yeah, yeah, because.

554
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: You and Tim have brought that to her. And so

555
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: it's that's what I do. That is what it is,

556
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: whether you bring the breath into it or not, it's

557
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: bringing that self inquiry, understanding what drives your fear and

558
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: maybe making it a bit more magical. And when it

559
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: does come up in birth, and it does, without the doubt,

560
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: it's the biggest thing in the room. It's not just

561
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: your fear, but it's the midwives, the caregivers, your partner.

562
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: If you don't feel safe in the room that you're

563
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: birthing in, your baby will feel it. So we have

564
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: to create advocacy, and we have to understand who's going

565
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: to be in the room with us, and we have

566
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: to understand who's looking after us, because we can't do

567
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: that by ourselves. So it's so beautiful. And when you

568
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: breathe and you close your eyes and you drop into

569
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: that breath, you're bringing your own self into it, your

570
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: own safe Your own nervous system gets to feel alive.

571
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: You can't come into parasympathetic nervous system when you're birthing

572
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: because you're having an emotional life experience, right, So when

573
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: you hear all just you have to breathe through your

574
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: nose in birth, and I'm like, bullshit, We're having an emotional,

575
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: a huge life experience here and when we can feel

576
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: excited about it, whatever the outcome is when we go

577
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: to feel this beautiful baby in our arms and everyone

578
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: else gets to rejoice with you that baby feels that

579
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: in the room, It really truly does. So you know,

580
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: we have these situations where I do like a road

581
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: map of what birth and the outcomes of birth look like.

582
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: So you know, we all want our baby here safe,

583
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: but some people just want to only talk about it

584
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: being a vaginal, natural birth and I'm like, but what else?

585
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: What are all these other things? You know? So that's

586
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: the kind of work that I do with pregnancy is

587
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: helping you to understand that you're breath in the moments

588
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: of birthing, in the moments of pregnancy matter, and that

589
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: your nervous system is completely in co creation with your baby,

590
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: and how you feel about life is actually what you

591
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: think about birth.

592
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: Interesting yeah, I love that.

593
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. And what you think about your breath is what

594
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: you think about your emotional self. So when we're in

595
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: a birth and breath experience, we're in an emotional life

596
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 3: experience and we forget that. Yeah.

597
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so powerful. Never thought of it that way.

598
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's actually magic, pure magic, having a baby

599
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 3: in the world.

600
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. And what I love as well is that that

602
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: work doesn't just forget, doesn't just end at birth. When

603
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: you have an unsettled baby, especially for ug on the

604
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: other side, you just get the lights down, dark room,

605
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: put your baby on your chest, I need just breathe, yea,

606
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 3: and they come back into that nervous system regulation because

607
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: mum's regulated. Yeah, and that's really magic.

608
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: I've noticed such a big difference with because Ivy is you.

609
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Know, three and a half. Oh yeah, you're in the teenagers.

610
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, three ages. And when I noticed, like, you know,

611
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: if I've been a bit stressed at work and I've

612
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: been running on well, you know, autopilot, She'll do something

613
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: and I'll snap back at her, and she snaps right back,

614
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: like she mirrors my nervous system and my reactions. And

615
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: so I've been really good at catching myself and being like, okay,

616
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: this is because also she's very determined and strong, so

617
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: it's like she'll just keep coming back. There's no she's

618
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: a youth, yeah, because it's me and I think, okay,

619
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: good to know. And so I literally I think I

620
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: did it like maybe two mornings ago, and she was

621
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: really hysterical about the way I was doing hair. Yeah,

622
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: and you know it was she was having a full

623
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: melt down and I just had to like stand up

624
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: like she was facing a TV so she couldn't see me,

625
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: and I literally just just like like just really calm myself.

626
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: And then after you know, five breaths, I like got

627
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: on her level and I was like really soft voice

628
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: communicated to her and I was able to regulate myself.

629
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: And as soon as I did that, she you know

630
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: responded in the same way. And then we did her

631
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: hair and then she even after was like, I'm so

632
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: sorry for yelling at your mummy. Wow, I know so,

633
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: and because like we're big on like not making her

634
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: apologize but just like yeah, owning it, and so she

635
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 2: said I'm so sorry. I said, it's okay. You would

636
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: just you know, you're feeling a bit frustrated mamma gets

637
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: frustrated too. I'm sorry for you know, reacting that way

638
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: to you, and you know, and she literally like hugged

639
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: me and started crying and she was like, I just

640
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: love you so much. And I was like, oh my god.

641
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: But I really think back to probably Georgie, who didn't

642
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: have as a regulated nervous system, and I would have

643
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: missed so many moments of that. Yeah, And that's like,

644
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: that's such a simple breath moment. That's not even you know,

645
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: a ritual practice, right, And that's how much it can

646
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: change your life. That's how much it can be magic.

647
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: Because yeah, so important when you have kids, but also

648
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: so important for yourself because that was such a beautiful

649
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: reparenting moment because I probably my mum was amazing and

650
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: so maternal, but she also had four kids took after

651
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: and a household to run, and you know, it probably

652
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: didn't you know, get that. It was just I can't,

653
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: I can't deal with you kind of thing, especially because

654
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: I was such a strong willed child, which is great.

655
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, He's got me here, and so yeah, I'm

656
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: having such beautiful, like reparenting moments too, and it's just yeah,

657
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: dropping back into the breath. Yeah, so how can you know?

658
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: Maybe someone's not a mother, they're not Popparton, they you know,

659
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: don't have a children, but like, how is the breath

660
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: going to help them? And you know, maybe they're also a.

661
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: Little bit scared of breath work totally.

662
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: They've seen the videos and the cramping up and they're like, oh.

663
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: That's not for absolutely not. I think what I love

664
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: I love this question because I think that it can

665
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: be so simple. Yeah, so simple. I think the best

666
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: way to start thinking about breathing is to just you know,

667
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: acknowledge it. And most people and this is the science

668
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: behind it actually is that there's about I think it's

669
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: about I'm going to go into the ninety percent of

670
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: people can't breathe properly. Wow, it's a real problem because

671
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: we're you know, adapting to being in flex forward with

672
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: our looking at our phone or on our devices, and

673
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: really it's really hard with our postures to get good

674
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: breath and we forget that the lungs are a huge

675
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: part of our toolso and so if we're only sipping

676
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: up the top part of the lobes of our lungs,

677
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: how are we going to even And that's actually telling

678
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: your body. I'm not feeling great. So I would say

679
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: the first thing to do is just to start. When

680
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: you're in the car and you're driving and you get

681
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: to a red light, use that as a practice to go.

682
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: What if I was to breathe into my back against

683
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: the seat, that feels good. What if I was to

684
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: breathe a little bit into the size of my ribs,

685
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: that feels good, and just start there. Because what happens

686
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: is when you go to yoga, people go, oh, breathe

687
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: into your belly. Well, you don't have a diaphragm deep

688
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: in your belly. It's a bit up from there. And

689
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: the diaphragm is one of the biggest muscles that you

690
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: know makes breath happen. Some people say belly breathing, it's

691
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: actually incorrect. You need to go a little bit above

692
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: the the bather belly button. And when you're pregnant, obviously

693
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: you don't have your diaphragms not really there. It's kind

694
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 3: of pushed back.

695
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: Everything's scratched.

696
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: So I think what I would say is start putting

697
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: into little practices of hmm, what if I was just

698
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: to find a little breath practice of doing three breaths

699
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: every day and trying to think when I'm in the gym,

700
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: before I start the gym, what if I stand in

701
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: the mirror with one of those resistance bands, put it

702
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 3: around my diaphragm and try and practice bringing the breath

703
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: a bit deeper into my body. I might start to

704
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: actually like my breath again. And it doesn't need to

705
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: be scary connecting to your breath. What it does is

706
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: actually start if you pop it to a habit that

707
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: you're already doing, you start to notice, actually, I'm really

708
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: liking breathing on purpose a bit more. And then when

709
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: you start pulling in that practice, when you're doing a

710
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: meditation and they ask you breathe, you go, actually, I

711
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: really enjoy this. Now that's the first parts I think

712
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: of bringing a practic this in. You doesn't need to

713
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: be laying on the ground doing these really massive experiences

714
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: that is by choice, and that should be led by

715
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: people you feel most safe with, like you had that experience.

716
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: And I think if you have had a bad experience

717
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: with breathing, go to a practitioner that has got, you know, qualifications,

718
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: They've got time on their side, They've not been doing

719
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: it for five minutes. Yeah, and maybe don't go to

720
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: a room where there's two hundred people. Yeah, you know,

721
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: just saying, Or don't be in a place where you're

722
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: going to feel like you're analyzing yourself and judging yourself.

723
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: Your breath is going to be so hard to find.

724
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: So I think just starting off simple, just doing simple

725
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: breath techniques. Even box breathing can feel a lot. Sometimes

726
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: people can't even breathe in for more than a couple

727
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: of seconds. I always think to think it like an

728
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: elevator rather than a box. You breathe in from the

729
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: deep part out of yourself and up, and then you hold,

730
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: and then you breathe all the way out and hold

731
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: at the bottom, and just try and do that a

732
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: little bit. That could be as beautiful as doing a

733
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: big breath if you've had a lot going on for

734
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: your life, and then just start building that practice, doing

735
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: some breathing meditations, start just trying to encompass it into

736
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: your life. But when you're at the traffic lights or

737
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: any time that you've got a couple of moments where

738
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: you're just pausing, just drop into a breath. And then

739
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: the other time as well, is if you're feeling exhausted,

740
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: do a little sequence of a few breaths to try

741
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: and get your energy back. That can be amazing. I mean,

742
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: the breath doesn't need to be meditative. It can also

743
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: be uplifting. It can be energizing when you're feeling anger

744
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: and really no one talks about that, but women have

745
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: got this anger that's inside of them. Are quite a

746
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: lot of women do. And when you're feeling it and

747
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: you're suppressing, it's actually not good for you, So use

748
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: your breath to let it out, you know. And then

749
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: we also forget that actually laughing and crying is a

750
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: form of breathing, you know, a different way of releasing.

751
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: So we're always activating through our breath. But if we're

752
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: not breathing very well, that's just start point, really is

753
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: just to start thinking how am I actually breathing? If

754
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: it's not very good, my body's already in an anxious state.

755
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: So that's a really good point to start.

756
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: And so like introducing these you know, very small rituals

757
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: and routines with breath, can someone expect to feel different? Yes?

758
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, instantly, instantly. I mean, all right, let's do it now.

759
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: So sitting up really tall wherever you are, and please

760
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: don't close your eyes if you're listening to this driving

761
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: because it's pretty dangerous, and just think about growing taol

762
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: through your tolso and just take a breath in and

763
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: we're coming back to it against you can feel it,

764
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: So breathing through your nose and don't correct it, and

765
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: then exhale all the way out. Now, take your hand

766
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 3: to your chest, and your hand to your diaphragm, which

767
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: is just just above your belly button, and you'll feel it.

768
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: If you push in, you'll find your floating ribs at

769
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: the bottom and there's a little arch and that's your diaphragm.

770
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: So I want you to think about where your hand

771
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: is most moving when you breathe in. So breathe in

772
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: and as you excel, just notice what is moving in

773
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: your body. Is it more through your shoulders or is

774
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: it more in your tummy area. If you're breathing in

775
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: your shoulders and moving up and down, you're only using

776
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: the very top lobes of your lungs. Now, don't feel

777
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: likely doing something wrong. This is just the start of

778
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: changing your breath. How about if you were to take

779
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: your hands now to the sides of your ribs. Now, Gee,

780
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: you're not going to do it because you're pregnant. But

781
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: you can breathe into your back. So if you take

782
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: your hands to the side of your ribs and close

783
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: your eyes and see if you can get your ribs

784
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 3: to move where your hands are. So let's breathe in together.

785
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: See if you can make them expand and then exhale

786
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: all the way out, breathing into the sides of your ribs,

787
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: or even into your back on the seat, exhaling all

788
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: the way out. See what's happening. And what's happening when

789
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: we start to change that breath for you is that

790
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: you are now breathing a little different, a little better.

791
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: And it takes practice. And that's where we're not doing

792
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: the practice. We think that I'll just that little breath

793
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: in and breath out through the top loads of my lungs,

794
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: that will be good enough. But when we start to

795
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: expand into the fullness of the lobes of our lungs,

796
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: the front, the back, the sides, we have a full torso.

797
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: And when we're expanding our ribs into that torso, we

798
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: are actually using all of the energy in our body.

799
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: And it's so amazing. When you start changing the breath

800
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: your body feels better. Ailments in your body starts to change,

801
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: which is so crazy. Neck pain starts to dissipate. Back

802
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: pain changes, your digestion changes, your nervous system changes, everything

803
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: changes when we're breathing better. So I think that's really

804
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: where I see most people need to start is changing

805
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: how they're breathing. And then once you change that, you

806
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: start feeling better. You even go to the toilet differently,

807
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: You even change where your pervict floor activates. Because the

808
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: pervic floor is another diaphragm of the body. So when

809
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: we're using our actual diaphragm, our perfect floor changes, so

810
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: it all connects the whole body.

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00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's just extraordinary. Yeah, thank you so much

812
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: for taking us through that. I hope that was insightful.

813
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: It was bel not very relaxed. Perfect for my next podcast.

814
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited because you are going to come

815
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: on our beautiful Rise app and do a seven day

816
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: challenge for the Rise community. Yes, we are so grateful

817
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: to have you on there. Like I said, I have

818
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: been doing your work for years and years and years,

819
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: so to share you with my very very special community

820
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: is so exciting.

821
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm excited.

822
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: Could you tell the Rice community. If they're joining us

823
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: for the seven day challenge, what they can expect. What's

824
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: your intention for this challenge for them? Yes, I yeah,

825
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: I'd love to know.

826
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: I think bringing to the basics is where we'll start,

827
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 3: and then we'll start doing a breath for different things,

828
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: different ranges of each day, you know, different emotions. Maybe

829
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: even rather than pick up that coffee or chocolate at

830
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: the end of like the afternoon, we might do a

831
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: breath into that. Breathing for going to sleep, yeah, because

832
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: a lot of people, Yeah, a lot of people find

833
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: going to sleep really difficult. Breathing instead of scrolling on

834
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: your phone. Yeah, you know, there's so many things. I'm

835
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: going to give you, so many different breaths that will

836
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: help you go after seven days. I love breathing. I

837
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: want to take you from going oh yeah, it's that

838
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: kind of woo woo thing to wow, this is actually

839
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: something in my body that feels good. Yeah, And it

840
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 3: will help you to feel more focused, more present, and open,

841
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: really open to possibility. And that's what I'm going to

842
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: take you through on seven days of going from unconscious

843
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: to conscious and then from conscious too. Excited.

844
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm so excited and that's like, so what

845
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: you know, you know my mission and what I preach

846
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: is you have everything you need to have your dream life,

847
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: to feel peace, to feel happiness, to feel all the

848
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: things that you want to feel, the feelings, the emotions,

849
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: that dream reality you want to have. You literally have

850
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: everything inside you right now to make that happen. And

851
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: breath is such a huge part of that because I

852
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: feel like so many of us will be wanting this

853
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: external Like I said, like it's I need to take

854
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: this and I need this, and I need to have

855
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: my coffee and I need to and we really don't

856
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: need anything. We just need ourselves. And when we're tapping

857
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: into these tools that we literally we don't need to

858
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Speaker 2: pay for, we don't need any anything for that's where

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Speaker 2: things get magical because you become unlimitless.

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Speaker 3: You believe in yourself. Yeah, and you get to choose.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of my things I have post it

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Speaker 3: notes everywhere is I choose me and when I breathe,

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Speaker 3: I'm choosing to breathe with that consciousness of I get

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Speaker 3: to do this. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, Nikoa. It has just been

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Speaker 2: so great to have you on the podcast and have

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Speaker 2: this discussion chat. Like I said, I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have a misunderstanding about breath work and even

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Speaker 2: think it's too woo woo, it's too much, it looks

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Speaker 2: too hectic, and it's really really not the case, and

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Speaker 2: it can be something that you can do so gentle,

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Speaker 2: so easy, every single day to really create, like you said,

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Speaker 2: this magical version of yourself. So guys, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: We will put all the details in the show notes

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Speaker 2: for Nicholas's challenge in the Rise app. And also we

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Speaker 2: wanted to make it just seven days because I wanted

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Speaker 2: it to be super doable and digestible and easy. But

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you you'll do the seven days, and you'll

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Speaker 2: want to just keep doing the seven days, or you'll

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Speaker 2: pick your favorite and you'll, you know, make it such

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Speaker 2: a practice and ritual. But honestly, just commit to the

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Speaker 2: seven days and see how much your emotions change, See

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Speaker 2: how much you feel different in your body, how you

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Speaker 2: you no longer feel so much anxiety and fear, and

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Speaker 2: you know, really that feeling of like wow, I can

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Speaker 2: be and do anything, and.

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Speaker 3: That's so powerful, so powerful.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. Could you let everyone know

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Speaker 2: where they can find you where they can get all

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Speaker 2: your beautiful tools.

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Speaker 3: I am predominantly on Instagram, so it's Nicola Underscore l

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Speaker 3: Laye and I'm always popping in there with some wisdom

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Speaker 3: or something to share, so that's where I am predominantlyz

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Speaker 3: Come find me on there, amazing. We will link everything

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Speaker 3: of the show notes. Thank you so much, Nicola, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed it and

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Speaker 1: want more, connect with us via Instagram or continue the

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Speaker 1: conversation on our beautiful Facebook community page. All the details

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Speaker 1: are in the show notes, and I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: more about your journey. Also, we're an independent podcast with.

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Speaker 2: A small I'm all but mighty team, so we really

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