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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio a little bit earlier than

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Speaker 1: what she usually does, but she'll still join us with

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Speaker 1: the local news after ten o'clock as well as Kathleen Gazola.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Cats, morning. Now, it was another interesting day

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Speaker 1: in Parliament yesterday. We know that there was quite a

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Speaker 1: bit of discussion about whether they could or could not

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Speaker 1: discuss the administrator's appointment David Connolly, and to what degree

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Speaker 1: they could discuss it. What I might do is just

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Speaker 1: play for our listeners a little bit of what unfolded

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Speaker 1: yesterday in Parliament. Take a listen.

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Speaker 2: She makes a quick statement or one or two fleeting sentences,

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Speaker 2: runs away, doesn't talk for a couple of days, and

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Speaker 2: doesn't explain to the community why decisions are being made.

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Speaker 2: And one thing I learned Madam Speaker openly, and I

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Speaker 2: say this a lot when I was a teacher, one

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Speaker 2: thing I learned was even if people are not happy

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Speaker 2: with your decisions, they still will understand or respect Sometimes

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Speaker 2: when your decisions are made, they may not agree, but

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Speaker 2: they may be about it to understand why you've made

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Speaker 2: a decision. And so that is something I've carried through

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Speaker 2: with me in this role. Madam Speaker is that whilst

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Speaker 2: there may be frustrations around decisions, when decisions aren't when

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Speaker 2: decisions aren't explained, they're not walked through, they're not talked through,

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Speaker 2: and that is really where the frustration grows. So the

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Speaker 2: opportunity for the Chief Minister to set a tone of

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Speaker 2: confidence in decision making for her government has been completely

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Speaker 2: lost when she doesn't explain some key questions. Which is

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Speaker 2: why it is up to now all of us, all

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Speaker 2: twenty five in the Northern Territory Parliament, to come together

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Speaker 2: and say, let's get through the politics. Let's make sure

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Speaker 2: we have the confidence of the public in anything to

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Speaker 2: do with such an important role as a future administrator,

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Speaker 2: Madam Speaker.

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Speaker 3: Just the mere fact, Madam Speaker, that the Member for

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Speaker 3: Guardra is talking about it implies that there is a

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Speaker 3: disrespectful or a mistake Man of Speaker. So I think,

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Speaker 3: in my view and my submission is that it contravenes

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Speaker 3: the ruling that you've already done.

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Speaker 4: You pity, Chief Minister. I take your point. The Member

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Speaker 4: for Guadja is attempting to suspend standing orders. He is

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Speaker 4: within his rights to explain why he wants to suspend

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Speaker 4: standing orders to debate emotion along these lines and for

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Speaker 4: that I can allow that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Manas frictions until he's finished.

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Speaker 5: Madam Speaker, Thank you, Madam Speaker. And I make the

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Speaker 5: point I absolutely support the functions and roles and the

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Speaker 5: position of the Administrator in the Northern Territory. Let's be

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Speaker 5: absolutely clear. This morsion to suspend standing orders is to

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Speaker 5: allow honorable members of this Parliament to have honest, open

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Speaker 5: discussions and bring forward the concerns of our communities that

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Speaker 5: have been raised that have been sent to us around

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Speaker 5: the appointment process. That is what we are looking to

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Speaker 5: suspend standing orders today. We are all members of Parliament.

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Speaker 5: We can engage in this inner respectful relationship and a manner,

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Speaker 5: Madam Speaker.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That is just part of what

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Speaker 1: happens yesterday in Parliament. Now it's not often that I

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Speaker 1: would come to the you know, support of Chancey Bake,

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Speaker 1: but on this occasion, I actually think the point that

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Speaker 1: he's making is a really fair one. You know, enable

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Speaker 1: that discussion to happen and do it in a respectful way,

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Speaker 1: and you know, enable that to happen and people to

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Speaker 1: be able to hear those answers. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Robin the Speaker was trying, she was trying to enable

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Speaker 1: very keen to shut this down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they've had to talk about it for quite some time. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: Lea Fanocciaro has hasn't been out fronting the media for

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks until she came on to your

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Speaker 6: during that period they were hoping it would blow over,

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Speaker 6: and of course it hasn't, and it has dominated Parliament

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Speaker 1: It never blows over, no empowered and no matter what happens.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think the point that's really worth making

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know, even this morning, you know, I'd shared that

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Speaker 1: some people saying, you know, have you considered that many

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Speaker 1: territorians should be equal? Somebody else saying it's clear people

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Speaker 1: and saying, you know, we are talking about somebody that's

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Speaker 1: you know, do you think that his attitude towards women

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Speaker 1: It's a real mixed bag when it comes to people's

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Speaker 1: don't know that we've sort of had such controversy around

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Speaker 1: the appoint of an administrator. I know some people felt

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Speaker 1: very you know, very upset when Hugh Hegey was announced

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, and that's what we were talking about

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Speaker 6: this morning. It's not so much about how the government

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Speaker 6: that is the right of the government on both sides

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Speaker 6: for decades and decades, right, But it is the controversy

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Speaker 6: around this person and his past social media posts, and

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Speaker 6: it goes to the question of the due diligence or

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Speaker 6: how you're vetting someone. So has that fallen down here

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Speaker 6: because originally the chief Minister was like, I never saw

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Speaker 6: those social media posts, but now she's saying, well, had I,

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Speaker 6: she would have still gone ahead. Of course, I think

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Speaker 6: in my memory if Hugh Heggy was the only other

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Speaker 6: and those decisions from the government. Prior to that, you know,

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Speaker 6: there was Sally Thomas who was the first fee our

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Speaker 6: Ted Egan was obviously a beloved figure. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 6: don't feel like there was as much conversation around those

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Speaker 6: that also then goes to governments in power at the time,

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Speaker 6: making potentially a political appointment when it should be an

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Speaker 6: a political appointment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. And look, it's it's not going

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Speaker 1: to go away from what I can gather. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've seen people or people messaging me sort of saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll figure you know, we're going to protest, you know

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Speaker 1: the first time that he that he gets you know

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Speaker 1: I don't know as time goes on whether people will

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Speaker 1: and that's the decision that's been made. I guess what

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything much about him. I've obviously heard

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Speaker 1: head of the Cattleman's Association, but purely based on the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's been here for around ten to fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: So yes, he's not a born and bred Territorian. Should

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Speaker 1: he have lived here longer? Well, I feel yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: he should have. Maybe not everybody will agree with that,

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Speaker 1: but I just feel as though there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of other, really, really great people that could have been

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Speaker 1: looked at, And I guess I'm just a little surprised

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Speaker 1: Given the controversy.

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Speaker 6: I feel like that's potentially a hallmark of Leah's leadership

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Speaker 6: in some ways, and that's not a criticism at all.

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Speaker 6: She's you know, striking a decision and standing by her

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Speaker 6: decisions whether people agree with it or not. She's said

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Speaker 6: that across the board, in particular to some of those

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Speaker 6: really hard on crime stances that have copped a lot

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Speaker 6: So I feel like if they had backflipped or stepped away,

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Speaker 6: then you know, they would have copped some sort of

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Speaker 6: speculation that they were kwtowing to the Prime Minister, which

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Speaker 6: of course they're not going to do because they've held

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Speaker 1: It's a good, good point that you make. Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: take a bit of a break. We will get the

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Speaker 1: latest in national news, and then Kat will be back

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