1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: My name's Aatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young Ganya 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: nianar Kaka yah y and beIN Ahaka nian Our gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: In Mbina, yakarum Jar, Dominyama, Domaghawaka Woman, Damon Imlan Bomber 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: bang Gadabomba in and now in wakah Ghana on yak 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: rum Jar water Nadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: respect the Abiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: Take pleasure in all the land and respect all that 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: you see. She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: community and connections, bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: for you to thrive. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 14 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 15 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: that lets you be pervy about other people's money habits 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: for educational purposes, of course. Welcome back to another episode 17 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: of Money Diaries, where I get the absolute pleasure of 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: chatting to one of our incredible Shees on the Money 19 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: community members all about their journey let's jump straight into it, 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: because this week I got an email and it sounded 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: exactly like this. Hi, she's on the money. I am 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: our woman working in the male dominated area of security. 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: I didn't set out to work in this field, but 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: when my husband saw a gap in the industry, especially 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: the lack of women, we knew we had to do 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: something about it. Together, we built a successful business that 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: not only provides exceptional security services, but creates opportunities for 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: women in this space. I've seen firsthand how this work 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: can boost confidence, leadership skills, and self belief, and I'm 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: passionate about helping more women step into that power. I'd 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: love to share what this journey has meant for me. 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: Moneyed Diarist, Welcome to the show. I am so excited 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: about this. I feel like I don't work in security, 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: but like we're both about empowering women to step into 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: their power, and like that means we're on the same page. 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: Definitely. 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: I love this. So as always, before we dive into 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: getting to ask the juicy questions, I want to know 39 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: what grade would you give your money habits from A 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: through to F If I asked you to give them 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: a grade? 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I would give myself a B minus. It's still 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: a work in progress. 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's learn a little bit more about 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: that money, darist. Can you tell me a little bit 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: more about your money story. 47 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: Sure? So, growing up, money wasn't something we talked about 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: in our family. My parents came from very humble beginnings. 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 4: They each had twelve to thirteen siblings. Wow, I know, 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: it was insane. So not surprisingly they stuck with two children. 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: They were like, we are not signed up for that 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: rodeo exactly. 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: So they provided the essentials, you know, putting us through school, 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: but there was no money knowledge and so and when 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: my dad had stopped working, it was pretty much, you know, 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: just getting by. So my attitude towards money was very cautious, 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: and I had no idea about creating wealth. Yeah, so 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: then I met my husband. How'd you meet your husband? 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: We have to know the jucy details, like we're just girls, 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: all right. He's an entrepreneur, and you know, he came 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: from a family of successful business owners. So that really 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: helped me see money and business through a new lens. 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: So I would watch him from the sidelines while I 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: stayed in my depressing nine to five job, and I 65 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: just I was observing just how his lifestyle was different 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: to mine, even though we were married, right, you. 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Lived under the same roof. 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was getting up in the morning, miserable, ready 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: to go to work, and he was just so switched on. 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: He'd be executing ideas with ease. I would just witness 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: this level of freedom, both financially and time wise, even 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 4: though he was so busy. He just had this flexibility 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: that I didn't have being in a full time nine 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: to five job. So, yeah, just seeing that difference really 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 4: made me want to come into that. But I had 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: so much fear in built in me because I didn't 77 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: have those beginnings I had. You know, I wasn't scared 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: of the level of hard work that would come with 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: it or being very busy. It was just the fear 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: of my own capabilities. Am I capable of doing this? 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: What if I fail? I'm not used to this idea. 82 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: I wasn't raised on this. So you start making up 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: those excuses that because you didn't have that foundation, that 84 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: you couldn't possibly get into this fold of the business world. 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: But as soon as I recognized that my nine to 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: five was actually bringing me down and affecting my health, 87 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: I really had to make a change, and so I 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: had missed the fear and the uncertainty. I took that 89 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: leap and I went into business with my husband, and 90 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 4: at that time he had recognized early on that there 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: was a need for women in security. So I went 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: and got my license and I was doing casual shifts 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: here and there. It was a little bit daunting for 94 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: me because I think that old way of thinking, with 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: that perspective of only men should be doing security, or 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: you have to be a certain size you know, I'm 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: quite a smaller size frame, So it was a little 98 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: bit intimidating at first, to be honest, and having to 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: deal with intoxication and all of those kind of extreme 100 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: situations is a little bit daunting at first. But my 101 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: husband was there guiding me, obviously, making sure it was 102 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: a safe space and that we had a very type 103 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: team every time we worked together through COVID. When COVID hit, 104 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: we actually set ourselves down south so the southwest of Wa. 105 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 4: When the borders were closed, everyone started traveling and driving 106 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: down south to the southwest of Wa for their holidays, 107 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: so that place was flourishing when the city was closed down. 108 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: So we built our security business through there, and we 109 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: worked very closely together, and that's when I really learned 110 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 4: a lot, not just about security, but about myself. He 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: taught me about men, you know, and their behavior, and 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: I was really able to navigate big crowds and different personalities. 113 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: And I just developed so much in that space of 114 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: time through that guidance and doing that work ongoingly, and 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: it just it lit something in me and I just 116 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: wanted to carry on with that. So I'm in this 117 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: zone now where I'm leveling up and I'm actually taking 118 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: a direction towards empowerment and purpose now, so it's not 119 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: just building the security business. I'm actually wanting to take 120 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: this into a level of conversation and empowerment towards women 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: in security because reflecting on it, I have developed so 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: much in myself and I've overcome so many fears and 123 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: built so much confidence in dealing with people and odd behaviors. 124 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: You know, I think a lot of the time we 125 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: can avoid certain behaviors. You know, we might just go, oh, 126 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: just you know, just cut that person out of our life, 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: but at some point you still have to deal with it. 128 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: So if you know how to navigate it, then you 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: can You're just going to be better and better each time. 130 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: So I'm now in this direction of wanting to become 131 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: a speaker and empower women alongside building the security business. 132 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah that's cool. I love that. So tell me now, 133 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: obviously you own a security company and work as a 134 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: security Is it a security guard? Is that what you 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: would say? Like, how do I explain your job? 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: So there's a number of different services. So you've got 137 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: your security guard, You've got crowd control, you've got personal security, patrols, 138 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: asset protection, so we cover all of that. Wow. Yeah, 139 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: it's quite broad. 140 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: So that's not just like I'm assuming it's like, you know, 141 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: if a festival happens, then call you up and be like, hey, 142 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: we need security for the festival. But like, tell me 143 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: a bit more about like the personal security, because I'm 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: assuming that's a bit bougier, Like that sounds fancy, Like 145 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: if you're asking for personal security, you're probably like someone 146 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: very high profile. 147 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do get called for those type of jobs. 148 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: Close personal protection is very different and it takes a 149 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: certain level of skill and thankfully I got to do 150 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: quite a bit of that in the beginning. I know 151 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 4: you said it's bougie and I can see this perspective 152 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: of that, but I guess I'm still in that work 153 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: zine way totally. 154 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: It's like when people think that my job's like super glamorous, 155 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: They're like, oh my goodness, a podcast that must be 156 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: so glamorous, And I'm like, babe, I'm not wearing any 157 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: shoes right now. You know, my dog's on the floor. 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: I've just eaten four mini size mass bars. Like it's 159 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: not as fancy as it looks, but like, I mean, 160 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: when you like showcase a job, you go, that's pretty fancy, right, 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: Like it's the shiny parts of other people's roles, right. 162 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: It's so true, and I get that, I really do. 163 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: But there's so much work involved because you're the one 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: that's on the front line and you need to make 165 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: sure that that client and I will just say client, 166 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who they are, whether they're a dignitary 167 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: or if they're a celebrity, they still need that level 168 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 4: of care and privacy. You know, you can't be you know, 169 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: on the job and trying to take selfies with this 170 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: person is completely unprofessional. 171 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: You couldn't hire me, Like I don't want to take 172 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: selfies with people, but like just blacklist to me from 173 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: your company now, because I'd want to know all their gossip, 174 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: Like I'd be in the car with them and I'd 175 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: be like eavesdropping on all their conversations, Like I couldn't 176 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: control myself. You're a better per something I could ever be. 177 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a skill. You do have to shift 178 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: your perspective, you know, and I suppose once you do 179 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: it more regularly, you do see them as a client 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: and you just want to please that client and make 181 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: sure that you've delivered a service, that you've represented your 182 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: company and yourself and ultimately they're they're happy and they're safe, 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: you know, because that's the objective of our role. 184 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, all right, So how much do you get 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: paid in a role like this? So do you mean 186 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: in as a guard or no you in general? 187 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Me? 188 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I will say that our business is in 189 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: the seven figures. 190 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: That's very cool. And is that all reinvested into your 191 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: business or do you guys get to take home a 192 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: lot of that? Like what does that split look like? 193 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: The split? I think it's fair, But we do reinvest 194 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: a lot into the business because that's the main way 195 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: to really level up. So anything anything that we are 196 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: spending on ourselves is ideally going to give us a 197 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: return on the business. But you know, we do make 198 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: sure that we pay ourselves first, you know, and just 199 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: cover the expenses that we need to live. But ultimately 200 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: the larger expenses are reinvested. 201 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. So talk to me about big 202 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: money goals, like what are you currently working towards. 203 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 4: So I am working towards incorporating a training division within 204 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: the security business, and that would ultimately bring in more 205 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: females into this fold of this male dominated industry and 206 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: just opportunities to empower and to build confidence. I can 207 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: see myself and a lot of women, both mums and 208 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 4: the younger women coming out of high school where you 209 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: don't know what you're doing, you don't really know where 210 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: you want to go. And that's how I ended up 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: in that, you know, sort of nine to five office 212 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: job was just sort of just I need some stability 213 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: until I work out what I want to do. But 214 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: I really really feel like the tools that you're given 215 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: through working and security can help you in your entire life. 216 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: You know, you're learning to set boundaries, You're learning to 217 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: recognize people's behavior before something escalates. And then de escalation 218 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: methods as well. So those kind of things can really 219 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: play out in your life. And I just feel like 220 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: it's leveling up your life. And I think if you 221 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: get that early on, you can really do a lot 222 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: with your goals successfully, but also avoid a lot of 223 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: unsafe situations you know that people can get themselves into. 224 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: Totally. I love that for you. And on a personal side, 225 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: do you like buying property? Are you saving for retirement? 226 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: Like? 227 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 228 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 4: We are saving up for a house. So we've avoided 229 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: any big debts and we've paid off any smaller ones, 230 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: so we're doing pretty well. But yeah, ultimately to get 231 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: the dream home, but we want to be able to 232 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: pay out. We don't want to take on any debt, 233 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: so we're just working towards that for our dream home 234 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: and property maybe overseas as well we're looking at So, yeah. 235 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: That is very fancy. What do you mean property overseas? 236 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: Like? 237 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: Is that buying a villa in Bali? Is that buying 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 3: a whole resort in Italy? Like? What where are we going? 239 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 240 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: Specifically? It would be a home in Portugal? 241 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: Oh, bouhie, I did not see that coming. So like, guys, 242 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: when she said seven figures, she means like good seven figures, 243 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: Like people don't just buy their homes outright and then 244 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: have a holiday home in Portugal. Like I feel like 245 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: that escalated pretty rapidly. 246 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: We love that place. I highly highly recommend that place, 247 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: like I. 248 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: Love that for you. This is goals. Let's go to 249 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: a really quick break on the flip side. I've got 250 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: a lot of questions for you. I want to talk 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: about your take on debt. I want to talk about 252 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: investments and your best and worst money habits. So guys 253 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: that don't go anywhere, all right, money dirist, We are back, 254 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: and I want to talk about investing. As a business owner, 255 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: your bus guest investment is very likely to be your business, 256 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: so talk to me about your thoughts on investing, like 257 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: how you're reinvesting into your business. But then also are 258 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: you investing outside of your business? 259 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so investing within the business. We've also got a 260 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: safety division, so we're purchasing products in line with safety 261 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: and we're incorporating that into the security business as well, 262 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: so that we can offer our clients not just security services, 263 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: but now we've got safety products. So we've sort of 264 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: gone into that as well in terms of investment. Just 265 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: recently we've been doing some speaking courses to really get 266 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: out there and promote ourselves into to bigger client tele 267 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: and to do a lot more in terms of training 268 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: and inductions with our staff too, also offering training to 269 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: our client cients who might want to train up their 270 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: staff de escalation methods within the bar industry as well, 271 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: So that's another thing that we're doing. 272 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very cool. And like if we look at 273 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: I guess investment from the perspective of you being able 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: to buy home in Portugal and pay for your home 275 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: outright and retire comfortably, how are you guys working towards that. 276 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got a few little side hustles, but it's 277 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: just flipping a few things here and their marketplace. We're 278 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: just really really good with saving little things. So that's 279 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 4: all just building up. And so after we pay ourselves 280 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: what we need to sort of get by anything that 281 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: we work additionally, or anything we get from marketplace sales 282 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: or anything of the sort, or if we sell something 283 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: through the business, it all goes into one sort of 284 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: big savings account and that's when we might buy something 285 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: else and flip it and then make money on that 286 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: and just builds over time. So it's something that we 287 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: just want to sit on and just let it grow. 288 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: That's where we're going with that is kind of yeah, 289 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: it's a safe, quiet option, all right. 290 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit more about debt. So at 291 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: the start of the episode we were talking about like 292 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: you purchasing your dream home. I want to know more 293 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: about that, but also why you're adverse to taking on 294 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: a mortgage for a property purchase. 295 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: Well, we've just gone through a few things over the 296 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: years where we've you know, we've seen you know, different 297 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: businesses be affected by different things and COVID all of 298 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: those factors, and having debt was a real burden, you know, 299 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: even if it's a small debt, we've seen it with 300 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: other people as well, and we just we don't want 301 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: to take that on. And now that we've got my son, 302 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, he's three years old, now, okay, it really 303 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: shifts the way you think of things. So it's particularly 304 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: in the last three years that we've been very okay, 305 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: we do not want to hold this debt. We don't 306 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: want to have any debts. So let's work on it 307 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: now so that by the time he's in school. You know, 308 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: we can have established ourselves with zero debt, with a 309 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: home and you know, just move forward. 310 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: How close are we to achieving that goal? 311 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: I would say a quarter of the way. 312 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: That's exciting though, that's crazy. 313 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, how fun? 314 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: All right, So tell me a little bit more about 315 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: this debt side of things. When you say, oh, we 316 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: don't really want to take on debt, is that just 317 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: like personal debts that you're like, oh, well, we don't know. 318 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: If you know, we went through COVID again and no 319 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: one could work. We don't want to have personal debts 320 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: we had to pay off or is that stretching into business, Like, 321 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 3: tell me a bit more about how that works. 322 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 4: We don't have any personal credit cards. We've just avoided 323 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: taking on any debts. So say, for example, if we 324 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: needed to buy a car, you know, we would look 325 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: at ways to or you know, we would look at 326 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: the savings and what we can accumulate. How much do 327 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: we need to have the balance of the total of 328 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: that car so that we can just buy it out right? 329 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: And that's what we've done. We don't get loans on 330 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: the cars, we don't get credit cards. So yeah, that's 331 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 4: that's how we're just looking at it. It's like, if 332 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: we can avoid it, and if we've got a lump 333 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: sum of money, let's work around that lump sum of money. 334 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: And anything that comes up as well, you know, whether 335 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: it's insurance or things. We avoid those repayment plans where 336 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: you might accumulate more interest and pay things outright. We 337 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: just would prefer to pay things outright and then we 338 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: don't have to think about it anymore. 339 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: No, that makes absolute sense. It sounds like you're a 340 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: super savvy saver. So what do you think is your 341 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: best money habit? 342 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 4: My best money habit, I would just say what we're 343 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: doing at the moment is paying yourself first for the essentials, 344 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: and then any extra income or anything that you flip, 345 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: you just put into savings and just let that accumulate. 346 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: And it's always that savings account that we will look 347 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: back on and go, Okay, what do we need to 348 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: buy upfront at the moment, whether it's an investment or 349 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: if it's a vehicle or whatever it is that's sitting there. 350 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: You know, it's just accumulating, you know, some great interest 351 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: you haven't touched because it's in a completely separate account. 352 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: So it's not being factored into your weekly expenses. 353 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes total sense. But what do you 354 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: think is your worst money have it? 355 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: Because I'm on this journey of self development, my worst 356 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: money havebit is if I'm online and I see a 357 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: great course or I see you know, a great roadmap 358 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: or something that's going to be very helpful for me 359 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: in my journey, I tend to just click and buy. Yeah, 360 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: so that's my worst money is that I end up 361 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: doing that. And it's great if I use it, but 362 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: you know, to be honest, half of the time it's sitting. 363 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: In my inboss and then you're like, oh, I can't. 364 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 3: I don't have time for that. I'll get to it 365 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: one time, and then you forget about it. 366 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 367 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: I have been there, absolutely, especially when they're so good 368 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: at like the marketing and branding, and I'm like, oh 369 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: my god, this is going to be the thing, this 370 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: is going to be fantastic, and then you get it 371 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh damn, damn, I could have done 372 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: that myself. 373 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great idea at one in the 374 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 4: morning when. 375 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: You're scroll one hundred, no way, So get that all right? 376 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Tell me at the start of this episode, you said, 377 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: I reckon, I'm a B minus. But you've told us 378 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: that you've built an epic business, and you know, you 379 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: and your husband are working towards buying your dream home 380 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: completely outright and then one day having a holiday home 381 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: in Portugal, which would be very very cool. But you said, 382 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm a B minus. What would it take to get 383 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: to being like an A plus in your books? 384 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: I think it would be. Actually, you know, now that 385 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 386 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: It, you're pretty good at money. Hey, I'm like, where's 387 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: this B minus come from? Girlfriend? 388 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: I mean, when you say it out loud, Yeah, it's 389 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: very different, you know, so I have to give yeah, 390 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: I have to give us more credit than that, you know. 391 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 4: And I think you know, if I were to rate 392 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: it again, yeah, I would be on the you know, 393 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: a A minus. 394 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: See, I reckon, you're doing so well, and it sounds 395 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: like you guys are like, okay, cool, We've got this strategy. 396 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: This is what we're going to do, this is how 397 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: we're going to do it. I love it. It's been very fun. 398 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think I'll ever be in a 399 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: situation where I can buy a holiday home in Portugal 400 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: that would be elite but I adore that. I got 401 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 3: to learn about your story and what you're getting up 402 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: to and how you're absolutely killing it, especially because you 403 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: want to just I don't know what you want to 404 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: do is so important, Like boosting confidence on leadership skills 405 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: and self belief for women is so important, and we 406 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: are definitely on the same page about that. 407 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I love that. 408 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: Adore, Well, thank you so much for joining us for 409 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: a money diary. It has been an absolute pleasure, and 410 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: I just know people are going to be listening to 411 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: this being like Wow, she's so cool, like that is 412 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: an elite money story. So I really appreciate it. 413 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, wonderful, Thank you so much. 414 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: If I shared on She's on the Money is generally 415 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. 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