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<v Speaker 2>I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get

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<v Speaker 3>It don't matter where does.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this has ever happened to you, Laura.

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<v Speaker 4>I know we've spoken about it maybe once in relation

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<v Speaker 4>to garlic. But I have like this new discovery the

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<v Speaker 4>last probably two years. But I've only just been the

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<v Speaker 4>last two weeks really realized it's something.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot eat a mint without sneezing. That is so

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<v Speaker 4>weirdly specific because I'm I'm allergic to it, but nothing

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<v Speaker 4>else happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not allergic.

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<v Speaker 4>Like all I do is sneeze every time within one

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<v Speaker 4>minute of putting minti my mouth. I sneeze also happens

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<v Speaker 4>with like listerine, like anything that is minty that goes

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<v Speaker 4>in my mouth, I have a sneezing attack after it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that weird, Yeah, chewing er.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's weird, just look into the light

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<v Speaker 1>and have a sneeze.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like a good sneeze.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's analogy thing that's formed later in life. Why

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<v Speaker 3>do they come out of nowhere?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one person who does the most impressive sneezes

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<v Speaker 1>in this race is produce a grace. No one has

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard anyone sneeze like produce a grace.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate sneezing. Actually say I love to sneeze, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because you do seventeen of them in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Try and record you next time, just to play it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like an unbelievable feat.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but it takes years off my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time I do it, I swear, and every time

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<v Speaker 4>I'm driving, that's the last time I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you can't sneeze with your eyes open.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's actually physiologically impossible to sneeze with their

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<v Speaker 4>eyes open. I remember, I'm trying really hard when there's

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen in a row, when you're on the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I went for my driving my learner's lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>and I sneeze twice and the guy in the next

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<v Speaker 1>to me who was doing the testing. He made a

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<v Speaker 1>joke that if I sneezed again and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>keep closing my eyes, he'd have to fail me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I think he was joking. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was joking. But you can't. Yeah, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it is Thursday, and you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>Dunt Dunton ask uncut.

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<v Speaker 4>we have Aaron who is in a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>pickle with a relationship she's witnessing at work.

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<v Speaker 3>Erin what's the deats?

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<v Speaker 5>So pretty much my boss I found out that he

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<v Speaker 5>was cheating on his wife. But I actually know the

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<v Speaker 5>wife and I don't know how to tell her.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you find out that he's cheating?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it someone at work or is it something that

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, how do you find that out?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>So I found out through a couple of colleagues. He's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty flirty with everyone at work. To be honest, I

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<v Speaker 5>just heard through a couple of people, and I'm the

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<v Speaker 5>only when that's close to the wife, So I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like I need to tell her.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where you run a risk because it's well,

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds like you're also not one hundred percent. It

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like like it's through the grapevine, like you've seen

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<v Speaker 4>it yourself, but like such and such a set that

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<v Speaker 4>they think or I mean, I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that your boss firstly is a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a power and balance there. I'm sure you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to get involved in it.

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<v Speaker 4>But secondly, I think unless you are one hundred percent sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you can bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do you think are you one hundred percent sure?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I've seen the Tinder profile, so I know you

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<v Speaker 5>know there's some bit of evidence there.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, well I think you can say that

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. I think you don't have to say hey,

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<v Speaker 4>he's cheating. I think you can just say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel really uncomfortable doing this, but you should know this

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<v Speaker 4>could be fake, could be a catfish. But I have

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<v Speaker 4>seen Brett on Tinder.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna call your boss's wife and say, hey.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend, she knows her well it's still it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Still I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wait, firstly, I guess, like, in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>workplace that you work at, is this a job that

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<v Speaker 1>you like would be devastated to lose, or are you

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<v Speaker 1>now in a situation where you're like, do you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I could leave this job and get something else that's

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<v Speaker 1>of equal you know, value and everything else.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I love my job. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>lose it, That's the thing, you know. And like, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>also love my boss and I don't want to cause

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<v Speaker 5>any drama and if he found out, I definitely lose

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<v Speaker 5>my job.

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<v Speaker 3>How close are you to his wife?

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say we're pretty close. Like we've gone out to

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<v Speaker 5>lunch a couple of times together.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe just put your hand in the sand.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so like and I know that this is so

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<v Speaker 1>polarizing and like cheating is Honestly, anytime we answer any

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<v Speaker 1>questions around cheating, it's like the one thing that gets people.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely rage baited.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry that you're putting yourself in the firing line

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<v Speaker 1>of something that's going to blow up for you in

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<v Speaker 1>your workplace when you've not done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>It's different if you find out like that it's a

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<v Speaker 4>friend's husband, that's one thing, But when your friend's husband

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<v Speaker 4>is also in charge of your life life and your.

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<v Speaker 2>Career, that's such a big responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it gets too messy.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing you could somehow anonymously do maybe print

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<v Speaker 4>it out and leave it on a desk or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say who is wrong so.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get traced back to you.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>You really need if you're close enough to her and

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<v Speaker 4>you're and you think she really needs to know, you

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<v Speaker 4>just have to weigh up where it comes from, because

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<v Speaker 4>if it does fall back onto you at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, like, is that situation worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Losing your job over?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you if this was you, would you ever speak

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<v Speaker 1>to your boss about it directly rather than going to

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<v Speaker 1>the wife firsts.

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<v Speaker 3>Once your boss knows, there's just you can't move on

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<v Speaker 3>from that.

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<v Speaker 4>You never forget it. There will always be in balance

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<v Speaker 4>and your head will be on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Chap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he also probably should know that everyone knows.

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<v Speaker 1>If everyone's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About it, why should we protect him. He should know

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<v Speaker 3>the everyone knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I actually don't feel like we've beat Eddie help

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<v Speaker 1>at all because I think if I was in this situation, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think I would get involved, and I don't I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is not how everyone would respond to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just worry about the drama it brings into

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 5>If this was me, I would want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think in that case, then she needs to

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<v Speaker 4>know what you know without knowing it's you that know that.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you going to do that? How would you,

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, print it out the Tinder profile, put

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<v Speaker 4>it on a desk, make it anonymous, bring it to attention,

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<v Speaker 4>write an anonymous note.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I don't want to get involved, but I have

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<v Speaker 3>seen your part of your husband on Tinder.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get involved for my own personal reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think it's important you know, do with it

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<v Speaker 4>what you will. I'm not saying that's the right way

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<v Speaker 4>to go about it, but there are definitely ways to

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<v Speaker 4>let somebody know without getting involved.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing I've always said in relation to these,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>That person that anonymously brings to attention that someone's partner

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<v Speaker 4>is cheating, it can't just be a statement i've seen

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<v Speaker 4>your partner cheating. There has to be evidence attached to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise you send them into a bit of a spiral

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<v Speaker 4>on like.

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<v Speaker 3>Not knowing is it real? Is a fake? It makes

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<v Speaker 3>it worse.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're going to go down that track, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to give her enough evidence or reason to believe that

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<v Speaker 4>whoever you are, the vigilante that you are, she actually

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<v Speaker 4>has some basis to it. Eron.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is an impossibly hard thing feed to navigate.

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<v Speaker 1>My worry is that there's no arm to care with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just drop a bomb on someone's life and then

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to deal with any of the emotional

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<v Speaker 1>flow on from it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's not a choice because of that. The

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<v Speaker 4>choice is because she doesn't want to lose a job.

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<v Speaker 4>She's in a tricky between a rock and a hard place.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's probably the worst place to be. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Let us know what you do, though.

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<v Speaker 5>I will, I definitely will. I'm thinking to leave a

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<v Speaker 5>letter on her car. Maybe I'm not the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the car. I don't know. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Go see to a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not qualified, don't I know? My advice was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Take mine. Let me know how you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Eron, definitely give us call back and let us

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<v Speaker 1>know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>I will. Thanks. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you when you had your first big crush?

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<v Speaker 4>I was probably one of the first kids to have

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<v Speaker 4>like a proper boyfriend in primary school and I think

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<v Speaker 4>I was ND five Indie six, which is like ten.

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<v Speaker 2>What does a proper boyfriend look like?

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<v Speaker 1>When you're Oh my god, I never thought does that

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<v Speaker 1>even mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Listened to this, I was traumatized.

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<v Speaker 4>I was school captain and like sort of like the

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<v Speaker 4>cool kid, I guess, but I was really a nerd inside,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'll never forget I didn't actually really want a boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 4>but the whole year made this big deal to meet

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<v Speaker 4>behind the Demoudables after school one day and they formed

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<v Speaker 4>a big circle around us, and I had to kiss

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<v Speaker 4>my boyfriend on the lips for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just a peck, and I remember not wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, but I felt like I had to.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they all circled us and they were going kiss kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm traumatized thinking back to it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my first experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this sounds like like the most classic

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<v Speaker 1>version of like a little childhood experience, like we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the demoundables, we had the wet weathershed no, how

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<v Speaker 1>no play everyone we went if it rained?

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<v Speaker 2>How was the wet weather?

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<v Speaker 1>Shehed?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it's same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't ever remember having a boyfriend in school

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<v Speaker 1>because I was not cool, But I do remember being

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<v Speaker 1>like deeply infatuated in love with several boys. It would

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<v Speaker 1>change like every six months. It'd be like Julian Lorenzo Nelson,

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<v Speaker 1>someone or other.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember his name was Chadh Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a naughty boy name.

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<v Speaker 3>He had long hair too down to his shoulders to.

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<v Speaker 2>Set the boy, wasn't he ye Chad. Well, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm talking about this is like my kids are young.

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<v Speaker 1>Marley's just started school, she's in kindergarten, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we had a little bit more time up our sleeve

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<v Speaker 1>before the boyfriend girlfriend Chad would start.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, they have started so young. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they meet anything by it. Like I think it's very innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of a kin to playing like

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<v Speaker 1>mums and Dad's role play, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't want to play that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Six we know how that is up?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is how I got into this problem exactly. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's more like a kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>role play, like they see romantic things on TV, or

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<v Speaker 1>they see you know, princes and princesses and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>We have crushes, that's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But Marley has a boyfriend, and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>kids in school and in kindergarten have boyfriends or girlfriends

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<v Speaker 1>that they talk about, and the school has had to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in a band, like the classes brought in a

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<v Speaker 1>band where the kids are no longer allowed to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about boyfriends and girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>At all because it was a boyfriend's name.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I can't do that to her. That Chad, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not Chad Chicken. The poor kid doesn't even probably know

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<v Speaker 2>he's a boyfrien.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they hold hands? Like, what's the equivalent?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it just like you're the boy that I would

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<v Speaker 4>pick if I wanted to, Like, they don't even talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think they do chat, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's anything more like I think they're five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's very innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess at five you still know to like hold

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<v Speaker 3>hands and stuff. Like, I don't know. I'm not a parent, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It surprises me because recently, Mally, we were off, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was off with her other friends and

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<v Speaker 1>she's got other little boys with similar age that she's

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<v Speaker 1>friends with, and they're off in the corner having a chat.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was chatting about his girlfriend at school. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just my kid's school.

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<v Speaker 2>No, It's like no.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, like, it seems like kindergarten is not

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<v Speaker 1>such a young or obscure age for kids to start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about having a quote unquote boyfriend or girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, it's your first year of school. You're like

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<v Speaker 4>just out of diapers. Some kids are still in diapers.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids in school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some kids are late to the party line.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to school, and there's very few kids

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<v Speaker 1>are going to schools.

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<v Speaker 3>But those undies, the thick undies.

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<v Speaker 1>But Britt, I'm not sure what is the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate around it, because I guess my thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't want to make a big deal about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do feel like with kids, the bigger deal

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<v Speaker 1>you make about something, the more they latch onto it

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<v Speaker 1>because it becomes special.

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<v Speaker 3>You also don't want to shame them for like having

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<v Speaker 3>a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Or girlfriend and I don't want to embarrass them either,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also kind of want to have what seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an age appropriate conversation for a five year old

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, I don't remember being five and having

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of romantic feelings for anyone. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think I knew what a boy was versus anything different,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas I do think it's changed. Maybe it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do with like all the TV shows now and the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful movies and whatnot that really romanticize it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what's changed.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably don't realize because it's all around us, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's everywhere for a kid, even like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor Swift film video clip, like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, Taylor Swift, like Travis Kelce. Oh, it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>There, TK, I mean TC, I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>like calling whatever. But my point is I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>more prevalent than you think, and maybe we don't notice

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<v Speaker 4>it because it's normal for us, but a five year

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<v Speaker 4>old notices those things. And also it's like if you

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<v Speaker 4>look up to someone like Taylor Swift, then you see

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<v Speaker 4>a video clip of her in kissing a boy or

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<v Speaker 4>holding hands or like her love story or whatever, then

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<v Speaker 4>that's your normal, you know, So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>you navigate it. I guess she just continue to ask

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<v Speaker 4>how it's going, No, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>How's chat? You see chat school lately?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you just want to create that environment where they

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<v Speaker 4>feel like they can tell you anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I mean, goodluck to any parents who are

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<v Speaker 1>going through the same thing at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman named Frankie, she's a TikToker thirty five thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 3>She posts a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>She's heavily pregnant, and she's posted a video that's gone

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<v Speaker 4>bonkers started a pretty heated debate online. She recently was

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<v Speaker 4>on a train that was absolutely packed to the brim,

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<v Speaker 4>like people sitting everywhere, people standing in the middle of

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<v Speaker 4>the train, and she herself was standing.

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<v Speaker 3>In this video, she's sort of filmed.

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<v Speaker 4>Herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around, shown everyone sitting down,

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<v Speaker 4>and she just said chivalry for pregnant women doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I still can't believe not one person even offered, as

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<v Speaker 4>in even offered to stand up so she could sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the ridiculous thing about this is like usually on trains,

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<v Speaker 1>there's usually a separate part of seats which are for

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<v Speaker 1>people who are have you no poor mobility or needs

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<v Speaker 1>assistance or whatever, like, there's seats there that people know

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<v Speaker 1>to get up from.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think about when I grew up, it

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<v Speaker 4>was always taught if I was ever in a position

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<v Speaker 4>like that, that you would always stand up and offer

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<v Speaker 4>your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or pregnant women like

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<v Speaker 4>that was just what I learned as a child, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was a really standard thing. But some

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<v Speaker 4>of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to read you a few Why is your pregnancy

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<v Speaker 4>anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem? I

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<v Speaker 4>hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your choice

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<v Speaker 4>to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality,

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<v Speaker 4>you got equality, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>They're American. I'm sorry I really went into that, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important

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<v Speaker 4>than you. You bowed down to me. Attitude and things

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't care that you're pregnant. I care that

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a long day, my back end, feet hurt,

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah, blah like this is just the theme that

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<v Speaker 4>was on this TikTok, and I was actually disgusting, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I mean, I had something happen to me when

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<v Speaker 1>I had Lola. She was only little and she was

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. It was Christmas time. We were going

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<v Speaker 1>into the shopping center. And you know how like in

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<v Speaker 1>Big Westfields they always have like the pram sections.

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<v Speaker 3>So but that's not even Big Westfields.

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<v Speaker 4>Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like

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<v Speaker 4>parking with prams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it's parking prams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just an area where you can, you know, easy

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<v Speaker 1>duck in if you're a mom. Anyway, it was Christmas time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hell busy, and I had already had my indicator,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was waiting to go into this parking spot which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was right in the prams.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I was waiting to go into the parking spot,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else had pulled up, so they kind of blocked

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<v Speaker 1>me from going in, which meant that this woman took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it, and she's snuck in and took my space.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't have a kid, took my space, and I wound

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<v Speaker 1>down my window and I was like, dude, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a baby in the car. She's been screaming

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty minutes. We've been driving around this car park,

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<v Speaker 1>and she yelled out the window, it's your choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You decided to have kids.

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<v Speaker 4>That grinds my gears, Like I would have been absolutely furious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I did. I was like, I wish your mother

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any kids. And then I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I need to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>This happened to my sister recently. So I was over

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<v Speaker 3>visiting my fiance in Italy a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and my sister was overseas as well.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got a at the time, like six month old baby,

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<v Speaker 4>and my sister was on the train, had to travel

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half hours to where we were. The

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<v Speaker 4>train was packed like Sardine's right, And so Cherry's standing

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<v Speaker 4>up holding this baby because there's no room to put

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<v Speaker 4>her in a pram.

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<v Speaker 3>For two and a half hours. Fine, not fine, well no,

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<v Speaker 3>but Sherry, that's what Sherry said. Write her words.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, fine, I get it. Did I choose to

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<v Speaker 4>have a baby. Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna ask anyone to sit down.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved. No

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<v Speaker 4>one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the

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<v Speaker 4>ground in a corner with all these men standing over

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<v Speaker 4>a bit, not for any other reason than it's sardine's

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<v Speaker 4>it's just packed standing over a while she's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped

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<v Speaker 4>by luggage and bumped by people, and she's like people

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<v Speaker 4>were looking at me on the ground in my situation,

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<v Speaker 4>and not one person offered, And I found that's so

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<v Speaker 4>sad and shows like I didn't want them to give

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<v Speaker 4>up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>safe to breastfeed for ten minutes. Then I would have

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<v Speaker 4>gotten back up. But everyone just looked out a blatantly

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<v Speaker 4>nine and looked away. And I thought, what kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a world have we living in where there is not

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<v Speaker 4>one person on that train that would see someone in

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<v Speaker 4>a more vulnerable position and offer to help.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's a really, really, such a shitty

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<v Speaker 1>example of people being selfish, really, I mean, And also

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<v Speaker 1>we can sit here and be like, yes, of course

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<v Speaker 1>someone decides to have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what someone decided to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally at the end of the way your mom to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mum was pregnant once upon a time too. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I read these reactions and apart from that woman who

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at me in a car park one time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Christmas and she was just full of holidays here,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like most people are good people. Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>not had experiences where people haven't been helpful. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>loads of experiences where I couldn't get a pram up

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs and someone stop and help me carry the

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<v Speaker 1>pram or carry things because I had too much. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, overwhelmingly, my experiences have been good, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really sad to me to hear it, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry who's a new mum who experienced something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just really shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's the difference, right.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the quick little things that not really inconvenient to anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>But people have this really weird attachment to their seats

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<v Speaker 4>when it involves giving up.

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<v Speaker 3>A seat for something.

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<v Speaker 4>But you guys, remember, if you're listening right now, a

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<v Speaker 4>woman carrying babies like they're running a marathon every single day,

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<v Speaker 4>So throw them a bone, give them a seat, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look that's it from us guys.