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Speaker 3: I don't know if this has ever happened to you, Laura.
Speaker 4: I know we've spoken about it maybe once in relation
Speaker 4: to garlic. But I have like this new discovery the
Speaker 4: last probably two years. But I've only just been the
Speaker 4: last two weeks really realized it's something.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: I cannot eat a mint without sneezing. That is so
Speaker 4: weirdly specific because I'm I'm allergic to it, but nothing
Speaker 4: else happens.
Speaker 3: I'm not allergic.
Speaker 4: Like all I do is sneeze every time within one
Speaker 4: minute of putting minti my mouth. I sneeze also happens
Speaker 4: with like listerine, like anything that is minty that goes
Speaker 4: in my mouth, I have a sneezing attack after it.
Speaker 3: Is that weird, Yeah, chewing er.
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's weird, just look into the light
Speaker 1: and have a sneeze.
Speaker 2: Nothing like a good sneeze.
Speaker 3: But it's analogy thing that's formed later in life. Why
Speaker 3: do they come out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: I really don't know.
Speaker 1: But the one person who does the most impressive sneezes
Speaker 1: in this race is produce a grace. No one has
Speaker 1: ever heard anyone sneeze like produce a grace.
Speaker 3: I hate sneezing. Actually say I love to sneeze, but
Speaker 3: that's not true.
Speaker 2: It's because you do seventeen of them in a row.
Speaker 2: I don't need to.
Speaker 1: Try and record you next time, just to play it out.
Speaker 1: It's almost like an unbelievable feat.
Speaker 3: It is, but it takes years off my life.
Speaker 4: Every time I do it, I swear, and every time
Speaker 4: I'm driving, that's the last time I'm driving.
Speaker 3: Because you can't sneeze with your eyes open.
Speaker 4: I think it's actually physiologically impossible to sneeze with their
Speaker 4: eyes open. I remember, I'm trying really hard when there's
Speaker 4: seventeen in a row, when you're on the highway.
Speaker 1: I remember when I went for my driving my learner's lesson,
Speaker 1: and I sneeze twice and the guy in the next
Speaker 1: to me who was doing the testing. He made a
Speaker 1: joke that if I sneezed again and I had to
Speaker 1: keep closing my eyes, he'd have to fail me.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I think he was joking. I
Speaker 2: think he was joking. But you can't. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 3: Well, it is Thursday, and you know what that means.
Speaker 2: Dunt Dunton ask uncut.
Speaker 4: This is what we do on our podcast Life Uncut
Speaker 4: podcasts every single week.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things that we do. You guys
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Speaker 4: Call up with your questions or the biggest problem of
Speaker 4: the week. We do our best to answer them. Today
Speaker 4: we have Aaron who is in a bit of a
Speaker 4: pickle with a relationship she's witnessing at work.
Speaker 3: Erin what's the deats?
Speaker 5: So pretty much my boss I found out that he
Speaker 5: was cheating on his wife. But I actually know the
Speaker 5: wife and I don't know how to tell her.
Speaker 2: How did you find out that he's cheating?
Speaker 1: Is it someone at work or is it something that
Speaker 1: you're like, how do you find that out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I found out through a couple of colleagues. He's
Speaker 5: pretty flirty with everyone at work. To be honest, I
Speaker 5: just heard through a couple of people, and I'm the
Speaker 5: only when that's close to the wife, So I feel
Speaker 5: like I need to tell her.
Speaker 4: This is where you run a risk because it's well,
Speaker 4: it sounds like you're also not one hundred percent. It
Speaker 4: sounds like like it's through the grapevine, like you've seen
Speaker 4: it yourself, but like such and such a set that
Speaker 4: they think or I mean, I could be wrong, but
Speaker 4: the fact that your boss firstly is a huge thing.
Speaker 3: There's a power and balance there. I'm sure you don't
Speaker 3: want to get involved in it.
Speaker 4: But secondly, I think unless you are one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 4: I don't think you can bring it up.
Speaker 2: Well do you think are you one hundred percent sure?
Speaker 5: Well, I've seen the Tinder profile, so I know you
Speaker 5: know there's some bit of evidence there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, well I think you can say that
Speaker 4: for sure. I think you don't have to say hey,
Speaker 4: he's cheating. I think you can just say, hey, I
Speaker 4: feel really uncomfortable doing this, but you should know this
Speaker 4: could be fake, could be a catfish. But I have
Speaker 4: seen Brett on Tinder.
Speaker 2: You're gonna call your boss's wife and say, hey.
Speaker 3: Friend, she knows her well it's still it's.
Speaker 2: Still I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wait, firstly, I guess, like, in terms of the
Speaker 1: workplace that you work at, is this a job that
Speaker 1: you like would be devastated to lose, or are you
Speaker 1: now in a situation where you're like, do you know what,
Speaker 1: I could leave this job and get something else that's
Speaker 1: of equal you know, value and everything else.
Speaker 5: I mean, I love my job. I don't want to
Speaker 5: lose it, That's the thing, you know. And like, I'm
Speaker 5: also love my boss and I don't want to cause
Speaker 5: any drama and if he found out, I definitely lose
Speaker 5: my job.
Speaker 3: How close are you to his wife?
Speaker 5: I'd say we're pretty close. Like we've gone out to
Speaker 5: lunch a couple of times together.
Speaker 3: Maybe just put your hand in the sand.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's so like and I know that this is so
Speaker 1: polarizing and like cheating is Honestly, anytime we answer any
Speaker 1: questions around cheating, it's like the one thing that gets people.
Speaker 2: Absolutely rage baited.
Speaker 1: I worry that you're putting yourself in the firing line
Speaker 1: of something that's going to blow up for you in
Speaker 1: your workplace when you've not done anything wrong.
Speaker 4: It's different if you find out like that it's a
Speaker 4: friend's husband, that's one thing, But when your friend's husband
Speaker 4: is also in charge of your life life and your.
Speaker 2: Career, that's such a big responsibility.
Speaker 3: I think it gets too messy.
Speaker 4: The only thing you could somehow anonymously do maybe print
Speaker 4: it out and leave it on a desk or something.
Speaker 3: Don't say who is wrong so.
Speaker 2: I can't get traced back to you.
Speaker 3: But if you feel like.
Speaker 4: You really need if you're close enough to her and
Speaker 4: you're and you think she really needs to know, you
Speaker 4: just have to weigh up where it comes from, because
Speaker 4: if it does fall back onto you at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, like, is that situation worth.
Speaker 3: Losing your job over?
Speaker 1: Would you if this was you, would you ever speak
Speaker 1: to your boss about it directly rather than going to
Speaker 1: the wife firsts.
Speaker 3: Once your boss knows, there's just you can't move on
Speaker 3: from that.
Speaker 4: You never forget it. There will always be in balance
Speaker 4: and your head will be on there.
Speaker 3: Chap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also probably should know that everyone knows.
Speaker 1: If everyone's talking.
Speaker 3: About it, why should we protect him. He should know
Speaker 3: the everyone knows.
Speaker 2: Stuff that I don't know.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I actually don't feel like we've beat Eddie help
Speaker 1: at all because I think if I was in this situation, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think I would get involved, and I don't I know.
Speaker 1: That that is not how everyone would respond to this,
Speaker 1: but I just worry about the drama it brings into
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 5: If this was me, I would want to know.
Speaker 4: So I think in that case, then she needs to
Speaker 4: know what you know without knowing it's you that know that.
Speaker 4: How are you going to do that? How would you,
Speaker 4: as I said, print it out the Tinder profile, put
Speaker 4: it on a desk, make it anonymous, bring it to attention,
Speaker 4: write an anonymous note.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't want to get involved, but I have
Speaker 3: seen your part of your husband on Tinder.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get involved for my own personal reasons,
Speaker 4: but I think it's important you know, do with it
Speaker 4: what you will. I'm not saying that's the right way
Speaker 4: to go about it, but there are definitely ways to
Speaker 4: let somebody know without getting involved.
Speaker 3: The only thing I've always said in relation to these,
Speaker 3: if you're going to be.
Speaker 4: That person that anonymously brings to attention that someone's partner
Speaker 4: is cheating, it can't just be a statement i've seen
Speaker 4: your partner cheating. There has to be evidence attached to it.
Speaker 4: Otherwise you send them into a bit of a spiral
Speaker 4: on like.
Speaker 3: Not knowing is it real? Is a fake? It makes
Speaker 3: it worse.
Speaker 4: If you're going to go down that track, you have
Speaker 4: to give her enough evidence or reason to believe that
Speaker 4: whoever you are, the vigilante that you are, she actually
Speaker 4: has some basis to it. Eron.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an impossibly hard thing feed to navigate.
Speaker 1: My worry is that there's no arm to care with that.
Speaker 1: You just drop a bomb on someone's life and then
Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with any of the emotional
Speaker 1: flow on from it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not a choice because of that. The
Speaker 4: choice is because she doesn't want to lose a job.
Speaker 4: She's in a tricky between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 4: It's it's probably the worst place to be. But I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: Let us know what you do, though.
Speaker 5: I will, I definitely will. I'm thinking to leave a
Speaker 5: letter on her car. Maybe I'm not the car.
Speaker 3: Not the car. I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 2: Go see to a therapist.
Speaker 3: We're not qualified, don't I know? My advice was brilliant.
Speaker 3: Take mine. Let me know how you go.
Speaker 1: Thanks Eron, definitely give us call back and let us
Speaker 1: know how it goes.
Speaker 5: I will. Thanks. Guys.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you had your first big crush?
Speaker 4: I was probably one of the first kids to have
Speaker 4: like a proper boyfriend in primary school and I think
Speaker 4: I was ND five Indie six, which is like ten.
Speaker 2: What does a proper boyfriend look like?
Speaker 1: When you're Oh my god, I never thought does that
Speaker 1: even mean?
Speaker 3: Listened to this, I was traumatized.
Speaker 4: I was school captain and like sort of like the
Speaker 4: cool kid, I guess, but I was really a nerd inside,
Speaker 4: and I'll never forget I didn't actually really want a boyfriend,
Speaker 4: but the whole year made this big deal to meet
Speaker 4: behind the Demoudables after school one day and they formed
Speaker 4: a big circle around us, and I had to kiss
Speaker 4: my boyfriend on the lips for the first time, and
Speaker 4: it was just a peck, and I remember not wanting
Speaker 4: to do it, but I felt like I had to.
Speaker 4: Then they all circled us and they were going kiss kiss.
Speaker 4: I'm traumatized thinking back to it.
Speaker 3: That was my first experience.
Speaker 1: I feel like this sounds like like the most classic
Speaker 1: version of like a little childhood experience, like we didn't
Speaker 1: have the demoundables, we had the wet weathershed no, how
Speaker 1: no play everyone we went if it rained?
Speaker 2: How was the wet weather?
Speaker 1: Shehed?
Speaker 2: But no, it's same thing.
Speaker 1: Like I don't ever remember having a boyfriend in school
Speaker 1: because I was not cool, But I do remember being
Speaker 1: like deeply infatuated in love with several boys. It would
Speaker 1: change like every six months. It'd be like Julian Lorenzo Nelson,
Speaker 1: someone or other.
Speaker 4: I remember his name was Chadh Chad.
Speaker 2: That's a naughty boy name.
Speaker 3: He had long hair too down to his shoulders to.
Speaker 2: Set the boy, wasn't he ye Chad. Well, the reason
Speaker 2: why I'm talking about this is like my kids are young.
Speaker 1: Marley's just started school, she's in kindergarten, and I thought
Speaker 1: we had a little bit more time up our sleeve
Speaker 1: before the boyfriend girlfriend Chad would start.
Speaker 4: But it is.
Speaker 1: No, No, they have started so young. I don't think
Speaker 1: they meet anything by it. Like I think it's very innocent.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a kin to playing like
Speaker 1: mums and Dad's role play, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't want to play that too.
Speaker 3: Six we know how that is up?
Speaker 1: Well, this is how I got into this problem exactly. No,
Speaker 1: but I think it's more like a kind of a
Speaker 1: role play, like they see romantic things on TV, or
Speaker 1: they see you know, princes and princesses and everything else.
Speaker 3: We have crushes, that's normal.
Speaker 1: But Marley has a boyfriend, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: kids in school and in kindergarten have boyfriends or girlfriends
Speaker 1: that they talk about, and the school has had to
Speaker 1: bring in a band, like the classes brought in a
Speaker 1: band where the kids are no longer allowed to talk
Speaker 1: about boyfriends and girlfriends.
Speaker 3: At all because it was a boyfriend's name.
Speaker 2: No, I can't do that to her. That Chad, It's
Speaker 2: not Chad Chicken. The poor kid doesn't even probably know
Speaker 2: he's a boyfrien.
Speaker 3: Do they hold hands? Like, what's the equivalent?
Speaker 4: Is it just like you're the boy that I would
Speaker 4: pick if I wanted to, Like, they don't even talk.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they do chat, but I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 1: It's anything more like I think they're five years old,
Speaker 1: Like it's very innocent.
Speaker 3: I guess at five you still know to like hold
Speaker 3: hands and stuff. Like, I don't know. I'm not a parent, but.
Speaker 1: It surprises me because recently, Mally, we were off, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she was off with her other friends and
Speaker 1: she's got other little boys with similar age that she's
Speaker 1: friends with, and they're off in the corner having a chat.
Speaker 1: And he was chatting about his girlfriend at school. So
Speaker 1: it's not just my kid's school.
Speaker 2: No, It's like no.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, it seems like kindergarten is not
Speaker 1: such a young or obscure age for kids to start
Speaker 1: talking about having a quote unquote boyfriend or girlfriend.
Speaker 3: That's weird to me.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's your first year of school. You're like
Speaker 4: just out of diapers. Some kids are still in diapers.
Speaker 2: Kids in school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some kids are late to the party line.
Speaker 1: They're not going to school, and there's very few kids
Speaker 1: are going to schools.
Speaker 3: But those undies, the thick undies.
Speaker 1: But Britt, I'm not sure what is the best way
Speaker 1: to navigate around it, because I guess my thing is
Speaker 1: is I don't want to make a big deal about it,
Speaker 1: because I do feel like with kids, the bigger deal
Speaker 1: you make about something, the more they latch onto it
Speaker 1: because it becomes special.
Speaker 3: You also don't want to shame them for like having
Speaker 3: a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Or girlfriend and I don't want to embarrass them either,
Speaker 1: but I also kind of want to have what seems
Speaker 1: like an age appropriate conversation for a five year old
Speaker 1: because to me, I don't remember being five and having
Speaker 1: any sort of romantic feelings for anyone. I don't even
Speaker 1: think I knew what a boy was versus anything different,
Speaker 1: whereas I do think it's changed. Maybe it's got to
Speaker 1: do with like all the TV shows now and the
Speaker 1: beautiful movies and whatnot that really romanticize it.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what's changed.
Speaker 4: You probably don't realize because it's all around us, but
Speaker 4: it's everywhere for a kid, even like a.
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift film video clip, like you.
Speaker 2: Said, Taylor Swift, like Travis Kelce. Oh, it's a bit
Speaker 2: of a problem.
Speaker 4: There, TK, I mean TC, I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 4: like calling whatever. But my point is I think it's
Speaker 4: more prevalent than you think, and maybe we don't notice
Speaker 4: it because it's normal for us, but a five year
Speaker 4: old notices those things. And also it's like if you
Speaker 4: look up to someone like Taylor Swift, then you see
Speaker 4: a video clip of her in kissing a boy or
Speaker 4: holding hands or like her love story or whatever, then
Speaker 4: that's your normal, you know, So I don't know how
Speaker 4: you navigate it. I guess she just continue to ask
Speaker 4: how it's going, No, how's it going?
Speaker 2: How's chat? You see chat school lately?
Speaker 4: Like you just want to create that environment where they
Speaker 4: feel like they can tell you anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean, goodluck to any parents who are
Speaker 1: going through the same thing at the moment.
Speaker 4: A woman named Frankie, she's a TikToker thirty five thousand followers.
Speaker 3: She posts a lot.
Speaker 4: She's heavily pregnant, and she's posted a video that's gone
Speaker 4: bonkers started a pretty heated debate online. She recently was
Speaker 4: on a train that was absolutely packed to the brim,
Speaker 4: like people sitting everywhere, people standing in the middle of
Speaker 4: the train, and she herself was standing.
Speaker 3: In this video, she's sort of filmed.
Speaker 4: Herself standing up, heavily pregnant, filmed around, shown everyone sitting down,
Speaker 4: and she just said chivalry for pregnant women doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 4: I still can't believe not one person even offered, as
Speaker 4: in even offered to stand up so she could sit down.
Speaker 1: Which the ridiculous thing about this is like usually on trains,
Speaker 1: there's usually a separate part of seats which are for
Speaker 1: people who are have you no poor mobility or needs
Speaker 1: assistance or whatever, like, there's seats there that people know
Speaker 1: to get up from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think about when I grew up, it
Speaker 4: was always taught if I was ever in a position
Speaker 4: like that, that you would always stand up and offer
Speaker 4: your seat to elderly, somebody disadvantaged or pregnant women like
Speaker 4: that was just what I learned as a child, and
Speaker 4: I thought that was a really standard thing. But some
Speaker 4: of the comments in this TikTok are so disgusting. I
Speaker 4: want to read you a few Why is your pregnancy
Speaker 4: anyone else's issue? Why is your pregnancy my problem? I
Speaker 4: hate this societal expectation. I mean, it was your choice
Speaker 4: to get pregnant, not theirs. Hey, you wanted a quality,
Speaker 4: you got equality, y'all.
Speaker 3: They're American. I'm sorry I really went into that, y'all.
Speaker 4: What is with that I'm a mother, I'm more important
Speaker 4: than you. You bowed down to me. Attitude and things
Speaker 4: like I don't care that you're pregnant. I care that
Speaker 4: I've had a long day, my back end, feet hurt,
Speaker 4: blah blah, blah like this is just the theme that
Speaker 4: was on this TikTok, and I was actually disgusting, you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: Look I mean, I had something happen to me when
Speaker 1: I had Lola. She was only little and she was
Speaker 1: in the car. It was Christmas time. We were going
Speaker 1: into the shopping center. And you know how like in
Speaker 1: Big Westfields they always have like the pram sections.
Speaker 3: So but that's not even Big Westfields.
Speaker 4: Every shopping center now, even the little ones have like
Speaker 4: parking with prams.
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's parking prams.
Speaker 1: It's just an area where you can, you know, easy
Speaker 1: duck in if you're a mom. Anyway, it was Christmas time,
Speaker 1: it was hell busy, and I had already had my indicator,
Speaker 1: and I was waiting to go into this parking spot which.
Speaker 2: Was right in the prams.
Speaker 1: And as I was waiting to go into the parking spot,
Speaker 1: someone else had pulled up, so they kind of blocked
Speaker 1: me from going in, which meant that this woman took
Speaker 1: advantage of it, and she's snuck in and took my space.
Speaker 1: Didn't have a kid, took my space, and I wound
Speaker 1: down my window and I was like, dude, come on,
Speaker 1: I've got a baby in the car. She's been screaming
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. We've been driving around this car park,
Speaker 1: and she yelled out the window, it's your choice.
Speaker 2: You decided to have kids.
Speaker 4: That grinds my gears, Like I would have been absolutely furious.
Speaker 2: Oh I did. I was like, I wish your mother
Speaker 2: didn't have any kids. And then I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I need to stop.
Speaker 3: This happened to my sister recently. So I was over
Speaker 3: visiting my fiance in Italy a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: and my sister was overseas as well.
Speaker 4: She's got a at the time, like six month old baby,
Speaker 4: and my sister was on the train, had to travel
Speaker 4: two and a half hours to where we were. The
Speaker 4: train was packed like Sardine's right, And so Cherry's standing
Speaker 4: up holding this baby because there's no room to put
Speaker 4: her in a pram.
Speaker 3: For two and a half hours. Fine, not fine, well no,
Speaker 3: but Sherry, that's what Sherry said. Write her words.
Speaker 4: She's like, fine, I get it. Did I choose to
Speaker 4: have a baby. Yeah, I'm happy to stand up. I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna ask anyone to sit down.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: But then she had to breastfeed. No one moved. No
Speaker 4: one offered. I've seen the pictures. She's sitting on the
Speaker 4: ground in a corner with all these men standing over
Speaker 4: a bit, not for any other reason than it's sardine's
Speaker 4: it's just packed standing over a while she's trying to
Speaker 4: breastfeed a baby and protect it from being like bumped
Speaker 4: by luggage and bumped by people, and she's like people
Speaker 4: were looking at me on the ground in my situation,
Speaker 4: and not one person offered, And I found that's so
Speaker 4: sad and shows like I didn't want them to give
Speaker 4: up my seat for the rest of the trip. I'd
Speaker 4: obviously been standing for an hour. I just wanted somewhere
Speaker 4: safe to breastfeed for ten minutes. Then I would have
Speaker 4: gotten back up. But everyone just looked out a blatantly
Speaker 4: nine and looked away. And I thought, what kind of
Speaker 4: a world have we living in where there is not
Speaker 4: one person on that train that would see someone in
Speaker 4: a more vulnerable position and offer to help.
Speaker 1: I think that that's a really, really, such a shitty
Speaker 1: example of people being selfish, really, I mean, And also
Speaker 1: we can sit here and be like, yes, of course
Speaker 1: someone decides to have kids.
Speaker 2: Guess what someone decided to have you.
Speaker 3: Totally at the end of the way your mom to
Speaker 3: be able to sit down.
Speaker 2: Your mum was pregnant once upon a time too. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I read these reactions and apart from that woman who
Speaker 1: yelled at me in a car park one time, it
Speaker 1: was Christmas and she was just full of holidays here,
Speaker 1: I feel like most people are good people. Like I've
Speaker 1: not had experiences where people haven't been helpful. I've had
Speaker 1: loads of experiences where I couldn't get a pram up
Speaker 1: the stairs and someone stop and help me carry the
Speaker 1: pram or carry things because I had too much. Like
Speaker 1: I would say, overwhelmingly, my experiences have been good, and
Speaker 1: so it's really sad to me to hear it, specifically
Speaker 1: Sherry who's a new mum who experienced something like that,
Speaker 1: because that's just really shit.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the difference, right.
Speaker 4: They're the quick little things that not really inconvenient to anyone.
Speaker 4: But people have this really weird attachment to their seats
Speaker 4: when it involves giving up.
Speaker 3: A seat for something.
Speaker 4: But you guys, remember, if you're listening right now, a
Speaker 4: woman carrying babies like they're running a marathon every single day,
Speaker 4: So throw them a bone, give them a seat, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, look that's it from us guys.