WEBVTT - Manifestation is BS? How to Actually Build Wealth (Shares, Strategy + More) 💰with Victoria Devine 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.640 I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.279 land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:11.080 Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.280 this land for thousands of years, and we show our 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:21.040 gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:26.280 This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:32.400 to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.919 healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:46.360 I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. 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And so I think you guys 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.120 are going to absolutely love this episode. So whether you're 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.920 just starting out or ready to take your money game 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.120 to the next level, this conversation is going to leave 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:25.640 you feeling empowered, educated, and excited about your financial future. Victoria, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.800 Welcome back to the Rise and Conquered Podcast. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:33.279 I am so excited about this, Like we were looking 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.640 it up off it and I was like, when was 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.279 that and twenty twenty one twenty It's been a hot minute. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.320 It's been a good couple of years. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.080 And also we were just having a laugh because I 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:45.719 was pregnant with Ivy. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.520 Girl and now you're pregnant again. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.279 And again and we only interview when I'm Yeah. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.200 We only do podcasts when Georgie is pregnant. So you're 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.440 going to continue to have to have babies so we 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.280 can continue this relationshiation. Yeah, otherwise, I so sorry. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.440 Thank you so much for coming back on the show. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.960 And it has been incredible to watch your journey over 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:12.799 these last four years, watch you grow your platform, grow 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:13.760 your businesses. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.719 For those who don't know who. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.440 You are, could you just give us a little bit 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:18.560 of an elevator pit. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.839 Hi, I'm Victoria. It is so lovely to meet you, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:26.240 if we haven't met before. I am an ex financial advisor. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.800 I retired in twenty twenty two and decided to go 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.480 all in on content creation. So I have the Sheese 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.719 on the Money podcast and we talk literally all things money. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.679 And I also own a mortgage broking business called Zella Money, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.839 and so that was kind of like my baby that 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.039 I nurtured. When I retired in twenty twenty two, I 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.080 was like, all right, well, I can't step out completely 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:53.000 of the finance industry. And now, yeah, every single day 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.480 I get people into their first homes, their second homes, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.479 maybe their fifth homes, and it's so exciting. But I 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:00.240 guess that's me. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.520 You really do do it all, and you also have 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.880 a gorgeous baby boy. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.799 Oh yeah, my personal life yea, do not forget it's 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.960 my work life. But then you on the flip side, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.680 I have a gorgeous husband called Steve. I have a 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.880 son who is now or thirteen months old, which is crazy, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.120 and yeah, I've got a beautiful dog and yeah, life 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:22.600 is good. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.600 I always do that where I just introduce myself my 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:27.480 occasional sense. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.840 Yeah, I'm at work, right so they yeah, you don't. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.760 I don't know. It's like a job interview. You wouldn't 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.880 go in and be like, so, yeah my husband in 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.720 a job interview. I like kind of separate the two 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.120 and the I'm like, hold on now, this is a 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:39.080 personal chat. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.760 No, thank you so much for that. And yes, your 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.120 baby boy is so so sweet. And I love the 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.320 fact that you do it all. And the season that 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.320 we're currently in on the Rise and Concer podcast is 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.560 how to have it all, do it all, be whoever 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.600 you want. And I feel like you very much embody 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.560 that I want to go straight in because, as you know, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.200 I talk a lot about the energetics and the mindset 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.360 around money and I have always been obsessed with your 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.200 work because you are all about the strategy, You have 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:24.200 the structures. I obviously believe that you need both, and 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.720 I know when I first kind of saw your work 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.840 and then interviewed you, I was like, oh, wow, no, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.839 if she does the mindset and energetics like you. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.439 Really do, I'm also a little bit Delulu. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.120 You are absolutely Delu, and I think a lot of 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.560 people would be surprised by that because you've got the 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.040 financial business. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.240 Like on think, I'm just strategy gal. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:46.680 Yeah. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.400 On paper or the first glance, you do look like 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.680 just very that masculine energy, corporate girl, strategy girl. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.560 And then when I got to know you on a 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.240 deeper level, I was like, oh. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.319 No, she's just a girl. 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.040 She gets it's the whole thing. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.520 And so I would love to go straight into that because, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.600 like I said, my opinion is you really need both. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.080 I'd love to know your opinion on that. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.240 It's so funny, right because you obviously do a lot 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:17.560 about manifesting and I'm obsessed with it, but I'm such 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.320 a like I'm I mean this like juxtaposition position right 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.280 where I love the idea of manifesting, but when you 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.160 really break it down. That's a beautiful mindset, but it's 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.599 not going to work without strategy. So like the mindset 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.559 and the energetics, they are the thing that's going to 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.160 carry you on that journey. But if you don't have 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.200 the strategy, you don't have a roadmap, you don't have 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.120 a plan in place, and all of that energy may 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.520 be wasted. And so we need to create a strategy 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.040 so that you know, if you're manifesting, let's say you're 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.280 dream home, you could have a million Pinterest boards and girl, 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.240 I am the biggest Pinterest you. So like if we 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.360 looked at my app usage, I swear I just scroll 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.600 on there all day being like, oh IP in this 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.640 and I love it. But if you really want to 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.880 create a vision board and bring it to life, we 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.880 need to create a roadmap that helps us get there. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.400 And it's this concept of if you're looking for something, 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.600 you're more likely to discover it. And I guess that's 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.920 where manifestation fits in for me. You said before, you 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.240 know it's really unexpected that you're into I guess the 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.400 more delulu side of things. But if we take a 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.160 step back, I actually have two psych degrees, so I 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.880 studied psychology as my first degree and my second degree, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.599 and then realized I didn't really want to be a counselor. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.000 I didn't want to work in you know, psychology in 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.520 that way. I kind of much preferred the self development 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.280 side of things, which had me fall into a space 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.520 called organizational psychology. And I think the reason I loved 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.959 that was because I went straight into an area called 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.120 culture and engagement. And I also did a lot on 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.200 leadership development, so working with essentially the C suite to 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.079 take them to the next level. And then I realized, 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.440 you know, this is only in hindsight, because you can't 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.600 realize things sometimes in the moment. Just wasn't gelling with me. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.480 I much preferred doing that with women, and so money 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.320 made sense, right, like money is the key to the kingdom, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:18.120 Like money gives you security and freedom and choice, But 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.160 we also need to have the right mindset, because we 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.640 could give you heaps and heaps of money, Georgie. But 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.640 then if you don't have the right mindset, you might 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.000 not do a single thing with it, and you won't 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.440 create the dream life you deserve. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.160 You won't leverage it, no exchange it, you won't invest, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:33.800 you'll be too scared. 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.560 Exactly, you just leave it as this tool that you 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.080 know if you don't. And I talk a lot about 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.880 money stories and really understanding, like, hey, Georgie, why do 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.600 you feel a particular way about this? And you'll go, oh, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.560 I don't really know. But then if we dive a 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.800 little bit deeper, you go, oh, my goodnurse. All of 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.640 my experiences have meant that. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.640 My parents said this exactly, this happened to me at 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.960 this moment, I felt stupid with money. So I feel like, I, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.319 you know, don't'm. 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.959 So silly with it, and so I can't be try 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.920 And you're like, hold on, where's this narrative coming from? 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.000 And why can't we rewrite that? Yes, so I think 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.640 it's a lot about that. And people look at money 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.280 as just a tool, and for the longest time it 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.960 has been a white man's game. It's like, Georgie, we're 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.000 just girls. We don't understand. But at the end of 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.560 the day, who runs the world, Like most of the 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.600 money decisions in a household are made by women, but 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.400 we don't have the power to control that. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.079 We're taking that back absolutely. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.959 And also we don't have the tools, we don't have 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.600 the background, the information, and that's why I love that 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.240 you're saying all this, because I'm like, yes, And it's 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.360 so interesting because one of the one of my work girls, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.560 I was like, I'm gonna go see Victoria. She's on 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.520 the money, and she's like, oh, this is so exciting 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.800 because you guys are like so opposite and I'm like, no, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.200 actually not, yeah, we actually if you actually listen to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.000 her content and you know deeper, like we're very similar. Obviously, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.120 I'm never going to give financial advice because I'm not, but. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.520 You don't do to talk about mindset and like, yes, Georgie, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.079 I could sit down and give you, Like let's just 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.880 say we've got somebody. Let's call her Sarah, and we 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.480 sit her down and we go, all right, Sarah, we 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.000 want to change your life. Like, and I think that 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.199 you and I together, we could we could do some 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.760 stuff with Sarah, some really good stuff. But like, let's 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.960 just start with the strategy side of things. I'm gonna 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.120 sit down, I'm gonna give her a proper budget. I'm 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:27.240 going to give her an investment portfolio plan, really well diversified. Yeah, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.840 she's not committed, she hasn't got the right mindset, she's 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.280 not on board. She doesn't really, it's usualized her future exactly. Yeah, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.360 So like you cannot have one without the other. And 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.400 I think so often we think the key to the 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.120 kingdom is going to be, oh my gosh, I'll get 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.280 my budget together one day. Godfriend, get your mindset together, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.920 because the second you do the budget easy. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:48.920 It's easy, it's easy. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.920 And also, I would argue the mindset needs to come first. Agree, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.800 because even if you get the budget, or even like 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.840 you get this huge load of cash, but you don't 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.640 have the mindset, you don't have the energetics to hold it, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.359 you won't make great decisions. And then that will continue 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.440 into your narrative of why you're not good with money 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:10.280 and so. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.040 It yeah, and you'll feel constrained by it. So like, yeah, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.000 you can get your mindset right. Even if you're like V, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.720 I don't know, I don't earn a lot of money, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.760 that doesn't matter, because if we can get your mindset 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.920 in alignment and you can get your vision really clear, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.760 do you know how easy it is to budget When 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.840 you're like, no, I'm making decisions that are aligned with 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.480 my vision and my future self, you don't feel like 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.280 you're compromising. You don't feel like you are being restricted. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.920 And how often have you heard, Oh, I don't budget, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.840 it's too restrictive. I'm sorry, restrictive for what? Yeah, like, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.720 what are we restricting here? Because like, from my perspective, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.920 I'm helping you build your dream life And that's not restrictive, baby. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:54.760 That's empowering exactly. That's incredible. So even let's even touch 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.120 on it. So, like you said, how Icee, manifesting is 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.880 not necessarily like the vision boards the dreaming. That's definitely 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.440 a component, and I love that it's important because most 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.600 of us dream too small, and so that is definitely 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.600 a component. But when I and how I teach manifesting 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.040 is I am not going to talk much or like, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:21.880 manifesting isn't the act of doing, It's not the masculine 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:26.040 act of doing. Manifestation is Okay, here's the vision, here's 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.000 the goal. Who do I need to be in order 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.640 to have that goal? Like, yeah, who is the person 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.880 who has that goal? And I think that's like a misconception. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.360 And I love that you've already kind of spoken on this, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.680 but it's like, okay, so that person who does have 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.960 that you know, investment portfolio, who does that what does 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.240 their budget look like, how do they show up? 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.560 You know, who are they being? 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.000 And I think again, when you marry those two, you 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:57.800 really have the perfect strategy, the perfect embodiment for your 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.720 next level self, who is finance free, who feels so good? 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.640 And I love that you said that when you get 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.640 to a point of marrying both together, you won't. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:10.960 Feel to stricted. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.040 It will feel easy, there's less resistance. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.120 And I think it's so funny actually because I just 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:22.320 published an episode on Cheese on the Money that basically 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:27.800 says that manifestation is bullshit, Andia, I'm so sorry, I'm 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.560 so sorry. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.200 How could you do that to us? 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.640 It's kind of a big clickbaity because at the end 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.280 of the day, like I think so many people think 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.680 manifesting is just throwing it out to the universe, georgy, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.920 just throw it out to the I've been asking the universe. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:41.640 I think about it. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.280 All, think about it, and my poorsh appears. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:49.560 Yeah, like that's that happens, right, But like manifestation, like properly, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.000 like if we're going to talk about it, is actually 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.520 you showing up for you, you doing those things and 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:56.440 putting the work in. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.320 And I'm bodying that fuelure exactly. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.640 And sometimes I don't. I don't enjoy when people say, oh, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.439 I manifested this, because so flippantly it pushes off the 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.359 fact that you worked really hard for this life. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:07.840 Yeah. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.640 Like you know, if you sat with me and we're 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.840 at brunch and I'm talking about something and you say, yeah, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.119 I manifested my whole life, I'd be like, girlfriend, you 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.880 worked hard for your life. Like I can see how 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.560 much time and energy and effort and alignment you are, 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.600 you know, creating. That's not just manifestation. That's not this. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.639 And I think that because of TikTok, because of Instagram, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.879 there's this concept that manifestation is just like maybe you 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.119 should just like do a little meditation Georgie in the 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.320 morning and like tick tick tick, all of a sudden 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.280 your life with you exactly, And that's not it. But 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.159 like that time that you're spending with yourself is the 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.560 clarity to then go and do the strategy because unfortunately, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.040 no one's going to come riding in on a white 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.520 horse and save you, like you are the one that 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.520 has to do the work, like and if you're not 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.600 going to be showing up for you, who else is 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.760 going to and if you're not going to show up 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.080 for you, why would other people if you're not even 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.880 saying it's a value, So I think it's Yeah, for me, yes, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.640 it was a little bit click baby, and that's why 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.760 I was like, no, I love manifestation, so small shit, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.720 but it's also just give yourself more credit, like you're 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:13.520 doing work. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.680 Well, that's why we even stopped using the word manifestation 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.120 in our marketing. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.360 Because it was getting a little bit dululu. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.040 Well because I like, I started using the word manifesting 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.240 probably five or six years ago when I did my 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.560 original course and that was like before it was trending. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.080 Because you were talking strategy and that encompass styes. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.840 And there was like I was like, this is a 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:43.480 six step formula on how to embody your dream reality, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.480 which is manifestation because if you look at the dictionary 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:52.120 example not example, sorry, the dictionary, manifestation is your thoughts. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.520 And your vision coming into fruition. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.040 So it made it involves work. It made Yeah, it 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.199 made sense in regards to using that. But now because 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:07.159 of TikTok, because of social media, I can absolutely understand 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.760 why people don't want to use the word manifestation because 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.320 it discredits and yeah, we honestly stop in using the 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.399 manifestation in some of our marketing. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.479 It's so important still because I think that that, especially 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.239 when you're stepping more into your feminine energy, like I 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.840 want to be using words like manifestation because I feel 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.800 like it embraces this strategy and process and who I 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.959 really want to be, as opposed to yes, I've got 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.120 a plan, Yes I've got a strategy, like well, no. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.240 The difference what I would say and why I don't 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:43.600 use the words like goal setting and smart goals and whatnot, 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.919 even though technically that's what I do, is because I 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:53.280 guess with my life, I did the masculine version I 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.359 got straight out of high school. I did law because 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:57.760 it's like that's what I thought I had to do 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.600 in society to be respected and please my parents, and 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.840 I like followed that formula. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.840 And then when I. 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.560 Started understanding manifestation, when I started using these laws of 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.240 the universe, that's when I really transform my life into 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.320 Georgie who has her own business, who you know, wakes up, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.800 you know, with her beautiful life and she's on the 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.520 beach and she goes for walks and she has created 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.480 this life that has felt like very much unreal, if 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:28.320 that makes sense. 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.040 And it wasn't. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.400 Because I was clear on that life. It was because 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.119 I was like following that feminine side of me. Was 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.160 when I was following the masculine, I got burnt out. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.840 And but you know me, Like, you know how. 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.800 Hard I work, Like I'm on here in a work trip, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:46.800 I'm pregnant. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:48.960 You just just getting it done. Yeah, like I would 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:49.679 love to see it. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.320 I absolutely do the hard work. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:56.159 But yeah, when you marry the two, that is the 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.520 absolute sweet sweet spot. You can't just do one. You 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.840 can't just do the feminine. You can't just do the 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:06.240 visualization without the strategy, without the doing. Like surely we 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:07.080 know this by now. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.560 Yeah, Like I don't know. I find it so interesting 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.960 as well, because there are still we're not saying stop 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.880