WEBVTT - 📲 Is the new FaceTime update watching us?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Kiss Breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so an Aussie woman has been feeling left and

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit puzzled after her iPhone intervened to shut

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<v Speaker 2>down an adult FaceTime convo that she was having with

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<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, lots of people do long-distance relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we spoke yesterday about people who have partners

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<v Speaker 2>fly in, fly out. So FaceTime plays a huge role

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<v Speaker 2>in keeping relationships fresh and healthy. Frankie, this lady Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>was on the phone to her boyfriend. Being the good

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend that she was, she gave him a little flash

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<v Speaker 2>of the old Norcs. Oh, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right?

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<v Speaker 2>The second she got her boobs out, the call froze.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't see or hear each other, and on his phone...

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<v Speaker 2>He received a message saying, are you sure you want

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<v Speaker 2>to stay on this call? Now, of course that man

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<v Speaker 2>wants to stay on the call with his girlfriend with

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<v Speaker 2>her tits out. Yeah. But basically they are alerting people

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<v Speaker 2>when there is signs of nudity now.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're probably using AI or something, detecting nudity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then dropping your call.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So, um, the call said, um, the call has been

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<v Speaker 2>paused because it may show nudity and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to stay on this call if you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Frankie's obviously wigging out because she's like, hang

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<v Speaker 2>on a second. Are, are these calls even private?

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<v Speaker 4>Like who on earth is monitoring?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else is watching this FaceTime?

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<v Speaker 3>That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So, um, it's a pretty mad story and we've got, um,

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<v Speaker 2>a special tech expert, Will Guyatt on Zoom to help

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<v Speaker 2>us unpack it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, May.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Will.

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<v Speaker 4>What an introduction to your listeners. You get me to

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<v Speaker 4>come on and talk about boobs. But there is no

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<v Speaker 4>pervert in California watching all of this material. So there

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<v Speaker 4>isn't somebody in a cupboard looking for boobs. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you're somebody... doing a long distance relationship and you're using

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<v Speaker 4>an apple device and you like a bit of fun

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<v Speaker 4>as you would you might want to go and turn

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<v Speaker 4>off something called apple's sensitive content warning which is a

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<v Speaker 4>feature that's now on your device so if you're using

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<v Speaker 4>an iphone or an ipad you've got an option and

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<v Speaker 4>you can turn it off and it's there for good

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<v Speaker 4>reasons because it's actually designed to protect younger people and

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<v Speaker 4>people that that shouldn't be taking these risks but if

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<v Speaker 4>you're in a consenting relationship and you're happy to do

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<v Speaker 4>this you can switch it off and flash whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want all day. Right, but no one's watching, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to be clear, AI is what?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just detects?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my gosh. Is that what's happening?

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<v Speaker 4>You get taken off air.

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<v Speaker 1>Not here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the situation with this is it's called machine learning,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's done on your device. So that information isn't

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<v Speaker 4>going off of your phone. Your phone is looking and going,

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<v Speaker 4>something is happening here that you've currently not given permission

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<v Speaker 4>to show. And that's when it stops. So I can

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<v Speaker 4>understand why somebody would think this was an absolute invasion

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<v Speaker 4>of privacy. Yeah. If you're somebody that's consenting, it's super

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<v Speaker 4>easy to switch off. You could do it in the

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<v Speaker 4>time that we've been speaking. In fact, if you do

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<v Speaker 4>want somebody to show you their boobs, you can go

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<v Speaker 4>and turn it off right now whilst we're chatting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, Will?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it is a great kind of resource

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<v Speaker 2>because my eldest daughter, Charlie, she has an iPad and

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<v Speaker 2>she was FaceTiming one of her girlfriends from school only recently.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, I actually got a notification

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone because obviously I have parental control and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it said kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie has been having conversations with Josie, which is her

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<v Speaker 2>school friend.

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<v Speaker 1>There may have been some nudity. We have ended the call.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually ended the call for me. So they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even give Charlie the option.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it turns out that Josie had come into screen

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<v Speaker 2>and she was in her swimmer's.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was probably a lot more flesh on show,

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<v Speaker 2>but they instantly cut her call off, which I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because if it was something else, obviously you

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<v Speaker 3>don't care she's talking to a friend in her swimmers.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you're happy with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>But, Will, you're saying if you're an adult, one, no

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<v Speaker 3>one's watching. It is your phone that is detecting it.

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<v Speaker 4>No bloke is watching you.

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<v Speaker 3>No bloke is watching you, and there is an easy

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<v Speaker 3>way to turn it off. Now, what if hypothetically– I

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<v Speaker 3>had a really small penis.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably wouldn't even pick up on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, would they pick my small one up, not mine?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean hypothetically?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just hypothetically. Yeah, would it even detect it?

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<v Speaker 4>Machine learning. If you showed your, you call it your

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<v Speaker 4>tackle here in the UK. Yeah. If you showed your

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<v Speaker 4>tackle to the phone enough times, it would probably identify

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<v Speaker 4>that hypothetical small penis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then eventually block it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it could even see yours, Nike. It's just like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's micropene over here.

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<v Speaker 3>A small mushroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Will Guyot, thank you, mate. Good for us to

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<v Speaker 3>know what we could do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Will.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Will.