Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
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Speaker 2: It is us and we are back, and thank goodness
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Speaker 3: Springer Sprung people.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say whether talk is important
Speaker 2: for social conditioning. I need to know that you understand
Speaker 2: that it is now spring and daylight savings and it
Speaker 2: feels good. We don't agree on that. That's okay, but
Speaker 2: I need to understand why asap. Anyway, enjoy the show.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on KEDA. I have
Speaker 1: been accused past. It's been an accusation that I am
Speaker 1: living in the past that I love Nostalgi. It's giving
Speaker 1: two thousand and four as my current thing that I'm
Speaker 1: interested in.
Speaker 3: I'm always surprised that you know current pop culture references.
Speaker 1: I know they just slip through. Yeah, it's not intentional.
Speaker 1: I wonder what it is I was thinking today. I'm
Speaker 1: actually good at remembering things from all ears.
Speaker 3: It's not just the early two times.
Speaker 2: Because you're an old soul. They don't want to know
Speaker 2: this about Freumiana. She's an old soul. She's been here
Speaker 2: before her dad in a young woman's body. No, man,
Speaker 2: what the hell it's very clear.
Speaker 1: Crazy how someone can rub off from you that hard
Speaker 1: that much, thinking that, oh no.
Speaker 3: We're different species and same same.
Speaker 1: It comes to light he is also living in the eighties,
Speaker 1: so do slightly difference for real? Anyway? I have wondered
Speaker 1: also though, why are we doing all of these reboots
Speaker 1: guys that come up with a bit of fresh material?
Speaker 1: And I came across this TikTok? Are you ready?
Speaker 3: I'm really ready? This is great?
Speaker 1: Why have people looked the same for the last twenty years?
Speaker 4: Oh, but this is a question people should be asking,
Speaker 4: not just how people.
Speaker 3: Let's expand the question a little bit.
Speaker 1: Why is it the case that.
Speaker 4: In twenty years very little has changed in the material
Speaker 4: relationships of anyone's life?
Speaker 3: Watching this TikTok? Has there been a nearly.
Speaker 4: NonStop recreation of nostalgic old tropes in Hollywood? Just everything
Speaker 4: is a remake of a remake of a reboot of
Speaker 4: a reboot of something that was made forty fifty years ago.
Speaker 1: Or try to find an answer.
Speaker 5: Let's listen to this guy, Mark Fisher.
Speaker 1: Fisher's most famous for.
Speaker 4: His book Capitalist Realism and what Capitalist Realism basically means
Speaker 4: in Natchell is that capitalism is the only thing you
Speaker 4: can imagine, you cannot imagine existing in a system outside
Speaker 4: of it. In this world today, not just in New York,
Speaker 4: but all over the world, we all basically live in
Speaker 4: that system, especially Hollywood, especially places.
Speaker 3: That make art.
Speaker 4: But wait a minute, Brandon, I thought that art was
Speaker 4: basically supposed to challenge things like power structures. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: on the level of the superficial, but actually most art,
Speaker 4: most art.
Speaker 1: Produced today, whether it's music or.
Speaker 5: Architecture, or movies or TV shows or fashion, doesn't try
Speaker 5: to challenge any of the deeper material relations that capitalism
Speaker 5: has us trapped within.
Speaker 3: It makes total sense, It makes extreme sense.
Speaker 2: Capitalist realism is the best way to put it, because,
Speaker 2: especially in this current capitalist society from a Western lens
Speaker 2: and Australian lens, you know, is all we know, and
Speaker 2: things that serve to challenge that idea don't really get
Speaker 2: that far. They stay so hypothetical because I think we
Speaker 2: recognize that so much would need to change to adopt
Speaker 2: anything drastically new. I mean, that's also why we get
Speaker 2: really excited about tech advancements, because we really don't have
Speaker 2: to do much personally. We just get this new thing
Speaker 2: impressioned upon us. I do with that or don't do it,
Speaker 2: that is up to you.
Speaker 1: September iPhone RA release, Yeah exactly. That man walks on
Speaker 1: that stage and my eyes appealed. Really not at all.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I couldn't give our rats us truly. I just would
Speaker 1: prefer to stay with the thirteen Imax pro.
Speaker 2: I've been saying this, I would. I'm happy to say
Speaker 2: with the phone I have now it was this gadget.
Speaker 2: Since when we're tech Girl is when the early adopters.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's all the same. That's the illusion is
Speaker 2: wearing off. Unfortunately, bring the illusion back. Make us feel
Speaker 2: like we're going to achieve our that we can achieve
Speaker 2: our wildest dreams, and that everything is new and fresh
Speaker 2: and fun. The illusion broken. Everything is the same. Nothing changes,
Speaker 2: History repeats itself, blur.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm going to get into history this year.
Speaker 1: I'm joining you reading.
Speaker 3: I never read that. I did. I did have a
Speaker 3: history podcast.
Speaker 2: I think we forgot which I guess Spotify's third original
Speaker 2: Australian podcast production.
Speaker 3: But you know there's that's that's an ancient ancient history.
Speaker 2: At this point, add is that before aftercrafts.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 2: This has got to be the most Melbourne thing I've
Speaker 2: done thus far. I did move, technically, I don't know
Speaker 2: four months ago. Do I spend any time there? No,
Speaker 2: But that's okay because these are the implications of impulsive decisions.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they eat and sometimes they add, you know, two
Speaker 2: to three flights four flights a week to your roster
Speaker 2: bro I will say, though, Melbourne is really delivering on
Speaker 2: its promise of being amazing. I've got really truly no
Speaker 2: complaints aside from the weather, but that's not unique. And
Speaker 2: plus it's pumping in spring for sure. It's blue sky,
Speaker 2: suns out, hotch Melbourne.
Speaker 1: And spring like Grandfa Noald Die areas. Yes, the city sings.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love the sport culture there. But
Speaker 2: I will say, yes, very Melbourne experience. I dined at
Speaker 2: a restaurant that did not exist. No, it's not AI,
Speaker 2: but it's the most accessible yet exclusive experience I've had. Basically,
Speaker 2: I went to a dining experience by this real person
Speaker 2: who's a fictional character called Greeto.
Speaker 3: What shapes you? You're from Melbourne?
Speaker 2: You let me know how this is. I'm learning as
Speaker 2: I go. So basically, greeto. This fictional character that's a
Speaker 2: real person hosted this elusive dinner event that I was
Speaker 2: invited to by friends. I was just a plus one,
Speaker 2: a friend of a friend. I was one of ten people.
Speaker 2: Now this is not just a rinky dink. Send the
Speaker 2: text pull through. There was an Instagram page made branding
Speaker 2: a logo of printed men. You cover charge less than
Speaker 2: fifty bucks for three courses, babe, some incredible It was artisan.
Speaker 2: It was just such a cool experience because number one,
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything like that I've been to
Speaker 2: in Sydney that wouldn't cost me literally four and a
Speaker 2: half thousand dollars. And in this instance, by the time
Speaker 2: I got there and you remove the smoke and mirrors,
Speaker 2: it really was a.
Speaker 3: Guy who cooks or likes to cook. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he's a chef.
Speaker 2: I don't know his story, but he hosts dinner parties
Speaker 2: that you can pay to attend.
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 2: And you only know that they're happening if you know him,
Speaker 2: I guess. And then by word of mouth, he tells someone,
Speaker 2: who tells someone, who tells someone, and then we all.
Speaker 3: Pay to go.
Speaker 2: And it was actually quite nice because you end up
Speaker 2: meeting all these people that you wouldn't necessarily go to
Speaker 2: dinner with.
Speaker 3: Of course they were fans of.
Speaker 1: The show four Anything Everyone in four people who were
Speaker 1: between the age of eighteen No it's too young, twenty
Speaker 1: and twenty five Flex and Frooms Fam. Did they say
Speaker 1: anything about me? That's all not particularly so.
Speaker 3: I don't know any worry about what. I'd have to
Speaker 3: go back in the archives to get it.
Speaker 2: But I will say the way that it came up
Speaker 2: was late, so like we had already been inside, done
Speaker 2: the small talk, had the first course, getting quite into
Speaker 2: the second course, and then it was like, so, like,
Speaker 2: how's the show going?
Speaker 1: With Rooms there? They would a name check, got a
Speaker 1: name check.
Speaker 2: Good to know that there are ops everywhere, according Guardian Angels,
Speaker 2: but they know who they are and somebody is always
Speaker 2: watching and I love to see it. I'll let you
Speaker 2: know if I go to any other Melbourne Codd experience
Speaker 2: what I'm being this summer is gonna be a big one.
Speaker 3: Mummay can I listen to Flex and Rooms? Flex and Rooms?
Speaker 1: Okada, hate to inform you, but apparently you are drinking
Speaker 1: your water wrong you listening? It's you The only reason
Speaker 1: why I know this to be true, is that I
Speaker 1: thought there was only one way to drink water.
Speaker 3: Down the gullet. Yeah, golp, golp, golp, golp.
Speaker 1: A little suppository wouldn't go a straight now and then.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a verified sauce. The
Speaker 2: source is TikTok, but you know, do with that information
Speaker 2: what you will.
Speaker 6: This is the quickest and easiest way to stay hydriden.
Speaker 6: You're going to take a pinch of sugar put into
Speaker 6: a glass, blue bit of salt water into a glass,
Speaker 6: you get get lemon citric acid.
Speaker 1: Bro, she's having me on flags.
Speaker 6: Something about something about the carbo silter water from a fridge. No,
Speaker 6: you don't mean those electrolyte packers. You can just do
Speaker 6: this and like you can control how much sugars in there.
Speaker 3: Soon you drinking water need to be a cocktail.
Speaker 2: And the thing that's getting me is I've fallen for
Speaker 2: this once before, not personally in my actions, but water
Speaker 2: was trending on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I said, what's this about. Everyone's like flavored water's just
Speaker 3: come out. It's really great.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, you know, it's like actual natural water
Speaker 2: with natural flavoring. It was literally Americans to suck this
Speaker 2: discovering cordial.
Speaker 3: Flavored watertop.
Speaker 2: It was like, if you're trying to lose weight, get
Speaker 2: your water and take up just add flavoring pipes.
Speaker 1: What about vitamin water two thousand and four, Well that
Speaker 1: I trust, bring it, bring us back to being like
Speaker 1: finally healthy food that tastes good. Vitamin water. The dragon fruit,
Speaker 1: oh really that's the purple one, right, or the pinky
Speaker 1: pinky Yeah, the cranberry beautiful. The thing is, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's just like my FBI agent is trying
Speaker 1: to like tell me something.
Speaker 3: Because I have been drinking more traditional water. I have been.
Speaker 2: Keeping the intake up noticed I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: doing the salt sugar lemon combo. But if another TikTok
Speaker 2: would come up to explain why the salt sugar lemon
Speaker 2: combo works, then I might give it a go. I
Speaker 2: just don't have those on me every Also, girlies, this
Speaker 2: whole warm lemon water in the morning styles.
Speaker 3: Start not good. My dentist said it erodes.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3: The boom is coming out and I'd like to see it.
Speaker 1: I don't think the metabolism is getting bousted by a
Speaker 1: little bit of a warm water boxing girls. Seriously, Oh,
Speaker 1: don't shoot the messenger, actually do a whole Yeah, the
Speaker 1: expos is bubbling with it.
Speaker 2: What I just need if there are any engineers out there,
Speaker 2: any academics, any human encyclopedias. I need someone to filter
Speaker 2: this information through to give me the information I need to.
Speaker 2: I need a device, an app that I can say,
Speaker 2: take this video, tell me what is factual?
Speaker 1: You know, you could actually like this is a little
Speaker 1: thing for TikTok. You could create a whole page which
Speaker 1: is fact checker, like doctor Carl.
Speaker 3: But for TikTok, so I should I should do labor rimiani.
Speaker 3: What is the best thing to happen to you this week?
Speaker 1: Oh, the best thing to happened to me this week was,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I took a plane ride to an
Speaker 1: undisclosed location. Okay, okay, it was giving a getaway with
Speaker 1: a special someone. Oh, this is completely a lie, but
Speaker 1: there is a part of it that's true. I was
Speaker 1: on a plane and I was sitting in the window seat,
Speaker 1: which I opted for. I almost paid a bit more money,
Speaker 1: but of course I bargained on the phone. They said
Speaker 1: it's it's usually usually nine dollars will wave it for you.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, how would you do the
Speaker 1: pretty privileges radiators.
Speaker 3: Through before you booked a flight to get cheaper seats?
Speaker 1: Yah?
Speaker 3: Huh, I know.
Speaker 1: I just worked out, Well, this is so vague and
Speaker 1: it sounds like a life you, I know. But the
Speaker 1: point of that, the moral of the story is true,
Speaker 1: and I'll get a truth there another bit of truth.
Speaker 1: I got three seats in a row, three seats in
Speaker 1: a row on a flat.
Speaker 3: Did you use them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, babe, I lay all the way down. Really it
Speaker 1: was a short flight. But when you get three seats
Speaker 1: you need to take advantage of it because it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen that often lying fall down. Yeah, it was giving
Speaker 1: a premium. It was giving business economy. Imagine I imagine
Speaker 1: like I've had a friend that's been relocated somewhere on
Speaker 1: business class.
Speaker 3: Right, relocated somewhere.
Speaker 1: Okayns witness protection, and they talk about going on business Like, God,
Speaker 1: you didn't want to be staying in that job for
Speaker 1: ever because I could never go back from business. That's
Speaker 1: why by the time I'm at a retirement age, I
Speaker 1: want to be in business. But anything before that, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta slog it out. What is the best
Speaker 1: thing that's happened to you this week? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't think of the best, but a highlight.
Speaker 2: I've been using this app called mid Journey. It's this
Speaker 2: chat GPT type thing that makes images.
Speaker 3: Don't roll your eyes, sorry, but you on your apps.
Speaker 3: I can't, I know, I know, but it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's like a chat GPT type thing that makes images,
Speaker 2: and it's just cool watching technology do its thing. I
Speaker 2: think the transition from a three mobile like fifteen years
Speaker 2: ago to an iPhone was the last big technological shift
Speaker 2: that felt important to me.
Speaker 3: That was like night and day. Yes, do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 3: Watching AI do stuff feel similarly.
Speaker 1: You're not scared, you're excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you get scared, you get left behind. And what
Speaker 2: happens you get left behind dried up. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: be leader of the pack.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't stop buying what do you call
Speaker 3: those NFTs?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean I think they'll have their day.
Speaker 1: I do own it an FT, yeah, and what's it
Speaker 1: worth down the bloody shale?
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't start buying NFTs.
Speaker 2: But there's something to say about being not the first adopter,
Speaker 2: second or third, but in the thousands, one hundred thousands,
Speaker 2: Like right now on Threads, I was the five millionth
Speaker 2: person to join.
Speaker 3: That felt like a good number. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'm on on sixty million up.
Speaker 3: Embarrassing.
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