WEBVTT - 🎙️ Why Everything Is Nostalgia Core 🕰️  Right Now 🎙️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch Up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is us and we are back, and thank goodness

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Springer Sprung people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what you say whether talk is important

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<v Speaker 2>for social conditioning. I need to know that you understand

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<v Speaker 2>that it is now spring and daylight savings and it

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<v Speaker 2>feels good. We don't agree on that. That's okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>I need to understand why asap. Anyway, enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on KEDA. I have

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<v Speaker 1>been accused past. It's been an accusation that I am

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<v Speaker 1>living in the past that I love Nostalgi. It's giving

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four as my current thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always surprised that you know current pop culture references.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they just slip through. Yeah, it's not intentional.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what it is I was thinking today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually good at remembering things from all ears.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just the early two times.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're an old soul. They don't want to know

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<v Speaker 2>this about Freumiana. She's an old soul. She's been here

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<v Speaker 2>before her dad in a young woman's body. No, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell it's very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy how someone can rub off from you that hard

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<v Speaker 1>that much, thinking that, oh no.

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<v Speaker 3>We're different species and same same.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes to light he is also living in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>so do slightly difference for real? Anyway? I have wondered

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<v Speaker 1>also though, why are we doing all of these reboots

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<v Speaker 1>guys that come up with a bit of fresh material?

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<v Speaker 1>And I came across this TikTok? Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really ready? This is great?

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<v Speaker 1>Why have people looked the same for the last twenty years?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, but this is a question people should be asking,

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<v Speaker 4>not just how people.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's expand the question a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it the case that.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty years very little has changed in the material

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<v Speaker 4>relationships of anyone's life?

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<v Speaker 3>Watching this TikTok? Has there been a nearly.

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<v Speaker 4>NonStop recreation of nostalgic old tropes in Hollywood? Just everything

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<v Speaker 4>is a remake of a remake of a reboot of

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<v Speaker 4>a reboot of something that was made forty fifty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Or try to find an answer.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's listen to this guy, Mark Fisher.

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<v Speaker 1>Fisher's most famous for.

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<v Speaker 4>His book Capitalist Realism and what Capitalist Realism basically means

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<v Speaker 4>in Natchell is that capitalism is the only thing you

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<v Speaker 4>can imagine, you cannot imagine existing in a system outside

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<v Speaker 4>of it. In this world today, not just in New York,

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<v Speaker 4>but all over the world, we all basically live in

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<v Speaker 4>that system, especially Hollywood, especially places.

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<v Speaker 3>That make art.

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<v Speaker 4>But wait a minute, Brandon, I thought that art was

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<v Speaker 4>basically supposed to challenge things like power structures. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>on the level of the superficial, but actually most art,

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<v Speaker 4>most art.

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<v Speaker 1>Produced today, whether it's music or.

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<v Speaker 5>Architecture, or movies or TV shows or fashion, doesn't try

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<v Speaker 5>to challenge any of the deeper material relations that capitalism

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<v Speaker 5>has us trapped within.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes total sense, It makes extreme sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Capitalist realism is the best way to put it, because,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this current capitalist society from a Western lens

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<v Speaker 2>and Australian lens, you know, is all we know, and

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<v Speaker 2>things that serve to challenge that idea don't really get

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<v Speaker 2>that far. They stay so hypothetical because I think we

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that so much would need to change to adopt

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<v Speaker 2>anything drastically new. I mean, that's also why we get

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about tech advancements, because we really don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to do much personally. We just get this new thing

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<v Speaker 2>impressioned upon us. I do with that or don't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>that is up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>September iPhone RA release, Yeah exactly. That man walks on

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<v Speaker 1>that stage and my eyes appealed. Really not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't give our rats us truly. I just would

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to stay with the thirteen Imax pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying this, I would. I'm happy to say

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<v Speaker 2>with the phone I have now it was this gadget.

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<v Speaker 2>Since when we're tech Girl is when the early adopters.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's all the same. That's the illusion is

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<v Speaker 2>wearing off. Unfortunately, bring the illusion back. Make us feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're going to achieve our that we can achieve

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<v Speaker 2>our wildest dreams, and that everything is new and fresh

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<v Speaker 2>and fun. The illusion broken. Everything is the same. Nothing changes,

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<v Speaker 2>History repeats itself, blur.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm going to get into history this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joining you reading.

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<v Speaker 3>I never read that. I did. I did have a

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<v Speaker 3>history podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we forgot which I guess Spotify's third original

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<v Speaker 2>Australian podcast production.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know there's that's that's an ancient ancient history.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, add is that before aftercrafts.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>This has got to be the most Melbourne thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>done thus far. I did move, technically, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>four months ago. Do I spend any time there? No,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay because these are the implications of impulsive decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they eat and sometimes they add, you know, two

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<v Speaker 2>to three flights four flights a week to your roster

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<v Speaker 2>bro I will say, though, Melbourne is really delivering on

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<v Speaker 2>its promise of being amazing. I've got really truly no

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<v Speaker 2>complaints aside from the weather, but that's not unique. And

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<v Speaker 2>plus it's pumping in spring for sure. It's blue sky,

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<v Speaker 2>suns out, hotch Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>And spring like Grandfa Noald Die areas. Yes, the city sings.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love the sport culture there. But

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, yes, very Melbourne experience. I dined at

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant that did not exist. No, it's not AI,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the most accessible yet exclusive experience I've had. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a dining experience by this real person

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<v Speaker 2>who's a fictional character called Greeto.

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<v Speaker 3>What shapes you? You're from Melbourne?

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<v Speaker 2>You let me know how this is. I'm learning as

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<v Speaker 2>I go. So basically, greeto. This fictional character that's a

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<v Speaker 2>real person hosted this elusive dinner event that I was

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<v Speaker 2>invited to by friends. I was just a plus one,

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of a friend. I was one of ten people.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is not just a rinky dink. Send the

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<v Speaker 2>text pull through. There was an Instagram page made branding

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<v Speaker 2>a logo of printed men. You cover charge less than

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<v Speaker 2>fifty bucks for three courses, babe, some incredible It was artisan.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just such a cool experience because number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of anything like that I've been to

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney that wouldn't cost me literally four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half thousand dollars. And in this instance, by the time

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<v Speaker 2>I got there and you remove the smoke and mirrors,

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<v Speaker 2>it really was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy who cooks or likes to cook. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he's a chef.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know his story, but he hosts dinner parties

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<v Speaker 2>that you can pay to attend.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>And you only know that they're happening if you know him,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. And then by word of mouth, he tells someone,

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<v Speaker 2>who tells someone, who tells someone, and then we all.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was actually quite nice because you end up

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<v Speaker 2>meeting all these people that you wouldn't necessarily go to

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<v Speaker 2>dinner with.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they were fans of.

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<v Speaker 1>The show four Anything Everyone in four people who were

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<v Speaker 1>between the age of eighteen No it's too young, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five Flex and Frooms Fam. Did they say

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<v Speaker 1>anything about me? That's all not particularly so.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know any worry about what. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 3>go back in the archives to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say the way that it came up

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<v Speaker 2>was late, so like we had already been inside, done

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<v Speaker 2>the small talk, had the first course, getting quite into

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<v Speaker 2>the second course, and then it was like, so, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the show going?

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<v Speaker 1>With Rooms there? They would a name check, got a

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<v Speaker 1>name check.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to know that there are ops everywhere, according Guardian Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>but they know who they are and somebody is always

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<v Speaker 2>watching and I love to see it. I'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>know if I go to any other Melbourne Codd experience

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm being this summer is gonna be a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>Mummay can I listen to Flex and Rooms? Flex and Rooms?

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<v Speaker 1>Okada, hate to inform you, but apparently you are drinking

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<v Speaker 1>your water wrong you listening? It's you The only reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I know this to be true, is that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought there was only one way to drink water.

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<v Speaker 3>Down the gullet. Yeah, golp, golp, golp, golp.

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<v Speaker 1>A little suppository wouldn't go a straight now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is a verified sauce. The

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<v Speaker 2>source is TikTok, but you know, do with that information

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<v Speaker 2>what you will.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the quickest and easiest way to stay hydriden.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to take a pinch of sugar put into

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<v Speaker 6>a glass, blue bit of salt water into a glass,

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<v Speaker 6>you get get lemon citric acid.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, she's having me on flags.

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<v Speaker 6>Something about something about the carbo silter water from a fridge. No,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't mean those electrolyte packers. You can just do

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<v Speaker 6>this and like you can control how much sugars in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon you drinking water need to be a cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing that's getting me is I've fallen for

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<v Speaker 2>this once before, not personally in my actions, but water

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<v Speaker 2>was trending on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, what's this about. Everyone's like flavored water's just

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<v Speaker 3>come out. It's really great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Okay, you know, it's like actual natural water

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<v Speaker 2>with natural flavoring. It was literally Americans to suck this

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<v Speaker 2>discovering cordial.

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<v Speaker 3>Flavored watertop.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, if you're trying to lose weight, get

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<v Speaker 2>your water and take up just add flavoring pipes.

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<v Speaker 1>What about vitamin water two thousand and four, Well that

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<v Speaker 1>I trust, bring it, bring us back to being like

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<v Speaker 1>finally healthy food that tastes good. Vitamin water. The dragon fruit,

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<v Speaker 1>oh really that's the purple one, right, or the pinky

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<v Speaker 1>pinky Yeah, the cranberry beautiful. The thing is, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's just like my FBI agent is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like tell me something.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I have been drinking more traditional water. I have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Keeping the intake up noticed I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing the salt sugar lemon combo. But if another TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>would come up to explain why the salt sugar lemon

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<v Speaker 2>combo works, then I might give it a go. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have those on me every Also, girlies, this

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<v Speaker 2>whole warm lemon water in the morning styles.

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<v Speaker 3>Start not good. My dentist said it erodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I gotta say it.

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<v Speaker 3>The boom is coming out and I'd like to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the metabolism is getting bousted by a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a warm water boxing girls. Seriously, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't shoot the messenger, actually do a whole Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>expos is bubbling with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What I just need if there are any engineers out there,

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<v Speaker 2>any academics, any human encyclopedias. I need someone to filter

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<v Speaker 2>this information through to give me the information I need to.

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<v Speaker 2>I need a device, an app that I can say,

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<v Speaker 2>take this video, tell me what is factual?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you could actually like this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>thing for TikTok. You could create a whole page which

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<v Speaker 1>is fact checker, like doctor Carl.

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<v Speaker 3>But for TikTok, so I should I should do labor rimiani.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the best thing to happen to you this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the best thing to happened to me this week was,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I took a plane ride to an

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<v Speaker 1>undisclosed location. Okay, okay, it was giving a getaway with

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<v Speaker 1>a special someone. Oh, this is completely a lie, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is a part of it that's true. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane and I was sitting in the window seat,

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<v Speaker 1>which I opted for. I almost paid a bit more money,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I bargained on the phone. They said

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's usually usually nine dollars will wave it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know, how would you do the

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<v Speaker 1>pretty privileges radiators.

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<v Speaker 3>Through before you booked a flight to get cheaper seats?

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<v Speaker 1>Yah?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just worked out, Well, this is so vague and

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a life you, I know. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point of that, the moral of the story is true,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll get a truth there another bit of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I got three seats in a row, three seats in

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<v Speaker 1>a row on a flat.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you use them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, babe, I lay all the way down. Really it

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<v Speaker 1>was a short flight. But when you get three seats

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<v Speaker 1>you need to take advantage of it because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen that often lying fall down. Yeah, it was giving

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<v Speaker 1>a premium. It was giving business economy. Imagine I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>like I've had a friend that's been relocated somewhere on

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<v Speaker 1>business class.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, relocated somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Okayns witness protection, and they talk about going on business Like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to be staying in that job for

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<v Speaker 1>ever because I could never go back from business. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why by the time I'm at a retirement age, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in business. But anything before that, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta I gotta slog it out. What is the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's happened to you this week? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't think of the best, but a highlight.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been using this app called mid Journey. It's this

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<v Speaker 2>chat GPT type thing that makes images.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't roll your eyes, sorry, but you on your apps.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't, I know, I know, but it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a chat GPT type thing that makes images,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just cool watching technology do its thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the transition from a three mobile like fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>ago to an iPhone was the last big technological shift

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<v Speaker 2>that felt important to me.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like night and day. Yes, do you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>This?

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<v Speaker 3>Watching AI do stuff feel similarly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not scared, you're excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get scared, you get left behind. And what

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<v Speaker 2>happens you get left behind dried up. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>be leader of the pack.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do that. Don't stop buying what do you call

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<v Speaker 3>those NFTs?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I mean I think they'll have their day.

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<v Speaker 1>I do own it an FT, yeah, and what's it

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<v Speaker 1>worth down the bloody shale?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't start buying NFTs.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something to say about being not the first adopter,

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<v Speaker 2>second or third, but in the thousands, one hundred thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>Like right now on Threads, I was the five millionth

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<v Speaker 2>person to join.

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<v Speaker 3>That felt like a good number. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on on sixty million up.

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<v Speaker 3>Embarrassing.

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