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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: It can be overwhelming, can't it? And the recent conflict

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East has exposed many of us to

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Speaker 2: shocking and disturbing images we're seeing on social media. Just

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Speaker 2: watching the commercial news on television is hard enough. Some

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Speaker 2: schools have advised parents to delete the social media apps

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Speaker 2: to protect their children from the trauma. We're hearing stories

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Speaker 2: of hamas threatening to upload videos of hostages pleading for

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Speaker 2: their lives, etc. You do not want your children to

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Speaker 2: alone yourself seeing that, what's the best way to cope

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Speaker 2: with this overwhelming amount of graphic content? To help us

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Speaker 2: navigate here is clinical psychologist Joe Lamble.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Joe, good morning, guys.

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Speaker 2: What do we do? What do we do? Because in

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Speaker 2: this day and age, we can't control necessarily the imagery

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Speaker 2: we're going to be seeing.

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Speaker 1: No, and this is one time when we've got to

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Speaker 1: attempt to because, as you say, it's distressing enough for

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Speaker 1: adults to see some of these images to even think

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Speaker 1: about them, let alone for our young minds. And this

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Speaker 1: is why you know, we want to work always, especially

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Speaker 1: with our teens who are the most likely ones to

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Speaker 1: be on social media, to work with them to navigate

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Speaker 1: social media, so to say, if you're just saying constantly

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Speaker 1: get off social media, get off your phones, get off

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Speaker 1: your phones, then that starts to have no effect. But

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Speaker 1: if you help them, say, you know, this is the

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Speaker 1: way you can connect with your friends and have them done,

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Speaker 1: and that's good. But there are certain times in life

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Speaker 1: where it is not good to be on social media,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of them. So you can then point,

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Speaker 1: you know, see how there's a point of difference, and

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Speaker 1: so then you're just explaining to them that they may

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Speaker 1: want to be informed. They may want to know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is it something something's happening that we shouldn't see,

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Speaker 1: so therefore I want to see it. But again, as

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Speaker 1: their parents, you just want to say some things can't

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Speaker 1: be unseen and you need to trust us as your parents.

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Speaker 1: That's our job to try and keep you safe. And

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Speaker 1: that's what the schools are trying to do too, to

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Speaker 1: saying just just for a little while, let's have a

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Speaker 1: break as much as you can from social media media

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Speaker 1: and as you say, and from television, news and just

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Speaker 1: for the moment, so you don't have to try and

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Speaker 1: unsee something.

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Speaker 3: And you've kind of got to be parent over shoulder

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Speaker 3: a bit which has always been sneered at a lot

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Speaker 3: of peoples that are a parent over shoulder, But at

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Speaker 3: this time I found my youngest is twenty one, but

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Speaker 3: even still I'm just very present aware of what he's

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Speaker 3: looking out.

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Speaker 2: I go, what are you?

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Speaker 3: What are you looking at now?

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Speaker 1: Mate?

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Speaker 3: What wormhole are you going down? And that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I find just engaging in that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, as a general principle, Jonesy, that's exactly right. So

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be over their shoulder the whole time,

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Speaker 1: but you just want to show interest. You know, what

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Speaker 1: do you're like looking at? Show me let them edic.

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Speaker 1: Anytime our teenagers can educate us about something they've learned online,

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Speaker 1: that's a great day, you know. And then other times

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Speaker 1: we're teaching them how to critique what they're what they're

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Speaker 1: seeing on social media. So instead of, as I said,

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Speaker 1: a blanket rull, get off that rubbish, get off your screen?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to just be a bit more involved

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Speaker 1: to understand what they're looking at so that at times

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Speaker 1: like this you can say, Okay, now I'm really pulling

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Speaker 1: the parent rank here and I'm for your safety. This

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Speaker 1: is what we're going to do for a short time.

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Speaker 2: What about as adults, Joe, I was having a conversation

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Speaker 2: with a friend yesterday. We're talking about, you know, you

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Speaker 2: want to bear witness, you don't want to look away

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Speaker 2: from what the world is going through right now. But

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, our primitive brains aren't designed, are

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Speaker 2: they to take on these giant catastrophes. How do we

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Speaker 2: protect ourselves but still acknowledge the pain of others?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think a client said it to me

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Speaker 1: really well yesterday. She said, I'm happy to be informed,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want to be immersed in it. And

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really good way. We do

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Speaker 1: need to understand what's going on and this tragedy and

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Speaker 1: this terrorism, but we don't need to be immersed in it.

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Speaker 1: And so getting sort of the headline ideas and then

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Speaker 1: using that as a way to discuss respect and kindness

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Speaker 1: and gratitude and with our children, with each other, and

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Speaker 1: being very aware. Bringing it back to kids a bit too,

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Speaker 1: is even when parents and adults are talking amongst themselves

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Speaker 1: about it, you've got to just be careful what ears

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Speaker 1: are listening. Because again I've heard so many stories in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days of children just having trouble

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Speaker 1: falling asleep because they said, well, we heard you talk

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Speaker 1: about this, or why did those people leap? This is

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Speaker 1: one yesterday, the young child saying, why did the neighbor

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Speaker 1: leave flowers outside our door? You know? And that was

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Speaker 1: because it was a Jewish family and some lovely neighbors

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Speaker 1: have left some flowers. Same thinking of you. But that

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Speaker 1: had really upset the child because I didn't understand. So

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Speaker 1: we have to be very aware at this time as

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Speaker 1: yes as you say, Amanda, we wanted their witness in

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Speaker 1: that we want to acknowledge and have empathy for what's

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Speaker 1: going on, but we also need to protect ourselves because

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Speaker 1: of where half or night or we're having terrible scenes

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Speaker 1: in our minds playing over and over again. That is

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Speaker 1: that is not helping anyone.

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Speaker 3: And invertently, I got off social media where we used

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Speaker 3: to be on Twitter now x and the password I

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Speaker 3: just can't. I don't know what the password to add,

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Speaker 3: so and it's blissfully, it really is quite refreshing not

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Speaker 3: being on Twitter anymore. I like that it's cleared my head. Joe,

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Speaker 3: It's always great to talk to you. You can purchase

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Speaker 3: Joe's book The New teenage from all good bookstores. By

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Speaker 3: the way, Joe Lamble, thank

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Speaker 1: You, Thanks guys,