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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and coming up on today's show, Chaos erupts

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Speaker 1: as Tammy Hembro's wedding invites elite Broxy Jizenko's giveaway saga

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Speaker 1: escalates to a whole new level of pr disaster, and

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Speaker 1: Sophia Beg is accused of bulling her ex. But First,

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Speaker 1: Talia Scaines has revealed her legal battle against ex boyfriend

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Speaker 1: Mitch Third is over now. Back in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Talia filed a lawsuit against Mitch, alleging he owed her

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Speaker 1: hundreds and thousands of dollars from their joint e commerce

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Speaker 1: clothing venture, which was called Third Fix Collection. Court documents

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Speaker 1: revealed that Talia alleged that the division of their business

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Speaker 1: assets had allegedly triggered verbal threats of violence from Mitch,

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Speaker 1: which made her fear for her safety. She also alleged

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Speaker 1: that Mitch threatened to publish online private images of her,

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Speaker 1: as well as images material online that would degrade her character.

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Speaker 1: I do want to point out that Mitch denied these

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Speaker 1: allegations now since then, it's been unclear whether the case

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Speaker 1: was settled out of court as everything went quiet, that

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Speaker 1: is until now. Kate. Yeah. So, in a recent Q

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Speaker 1: and a, Talia confirmed the legal case was over, but

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Speaker 1: she didn't reveal the verdict, which I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to know. She did say that she often gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about the legal battle and wishes that

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Speaker 1: she spoke about it at the time. She conceded, though,

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Speaker 1: that she's not the type of person to talk about

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Speaker 1: negative and serious things or call people out publicly online.

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Speaker 1: She also wrote, I also wanted to do things the

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Speaker 1: right way, and when there's lawyers and police involved and

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Speaker 1: it's an active case, I didn't want to speak publicly

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Speaker 1: and was advised not to during that time. I do

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Speaker 1: wonder if that's coming from her legal background, because she

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Speaker 1: is a qualified lawyer. She then went on to say

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Speaker 1: that she put on a brave face, but she actually

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Speaker 1: struggled more than she realized. She wrote, I finally had

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Speaker 1: the courage to leave my previous relationship and move on

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Speaker 1: with my life, but kept getting dragged back down by

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Speaker 1: a very expensive, very draining legal battle. I think that

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Speaker 1: perhaps the reason she's not talking about it now or

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Speaker 1: wanting to go into more detailers because she's signed a

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Speaker 1: confidentiality agreement. They probably agreed to settle outside of court,

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Speaker 1: so neither of them are wanting to say too much

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Speaker 1: about what's actually happened. Yeah, but then why even address

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Speaker 1: the question because that's going to cause trouble. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think she's touching on the question because, as she said,

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Speaker 1: she's getting inundated with questions about this case. She probably

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Speaker 1: wanted to put it to bed by saying it has

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Speaker 1: been resolved. Yeah. Well, Mitch Third has seemingly hit back

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Speaker 1: at Talia, so he posted a selfie with the caption

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Speaker 1: imagine your girlfriend publicly talking about her ex three years later. Now,

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Speaker 1: doesn't this to speak absolute volumes about the type of

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Speaker 1: character Mitch Third has because he has phrased it that

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Speaker 1: he must be so embarrassing for Talia's current boyfriend that

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Speaker 1: she's still talking about him. It's like, buddy, she's not

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Speaker 1: talking about you in a positive life. Yeah, But it's

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Speaker 1: also he is phrasing so her boyfriend is called Jake Sajano.

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Speaker 1: He is acting as if Talia is the property of Jake,

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Speaker 1: and how embarrassing for Jake's property to be speaking out

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Speaker 1: how dare she reflect on her past relationship because this

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Speaker 1: new guy owns her. Tammy Hembro and Matt Zakowski's wedding

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Speaker 1: invitation has been dramatically leaked online by fellow influencer Sophia

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Speaker 1: beg Now. During a weekly vlog, Sophia set up her

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Speaker 1: camera to capture her recent deliveries. When she discovered an

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Speaker 1: invite in the post from Tammy and Matt for their

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Speaker 1: upcoming wedding, she was very excited and ended up showing

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Speaker 1: the camera a close up of the wedding invite. What

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Speaker 1: look of these wedding invites. They had a kind of

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Speaker 1: royal vibe to them. They had these swirls around the

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Speaker 1: bit underwhelmed when I saw them as well. They're not

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Speaker 1: very chic, are they now? The catch is that Sophia

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Speaker 1: showed such a close up shot of this invite that

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Speaker 1: the date and location of the wedding was clearly visible.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to know if she's one of those influences

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Speaker 1: because if she does that, it didn't blur this. She's

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Speaker 1: got some questions she needs to answer. Well, it didn't

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Speaker 1: take long for super Sloose to type in a couple

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Speaker 1: of those details and locate the online version of the invite.

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Speaker 1: So Tammy and Matt had one of those online wedding

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Speaker 1: pages set up where there's a Q and a section

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Speaker 1: and lots of information about the event over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Why would they do that? I don't mean to victim blame,

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Speaker 1: but this is the same thing that happened to Sarah's day.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like it would be so easy to

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Speaker 1: leak online information. I know sometimes people put a password

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Speaker 1: It's very odd. It is all very confusing. And this

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Speaker 1: website did include information about the ceremony time, the dress

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Speaker 1: code which for reference is black tie, the recover read details,

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Speaker 1: and where wedding guests will be staying well and most

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Speaker 1: importantly the date of this wedding. Yeah, and as Matt

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Speaker 1: very lucky because they have chosen to keep the venue

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Speaker 1: as a secret to guests right up until the last minute,

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Speaker 1: so thankfully people don't know the actual venue. But it

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Speaker 1: has been revealed that it's a destination wedding in Byron Bay,

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Speaker 1: So there's going to be a lot of media, a

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Speaker 1: lot of paparazzi interested in getting first photos of Tammy

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Speaker 1: and her dress. And it's not going to take the

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Speaker 1: much time to work out where this venue is. They've

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Speaker 1: got enough time to do digging around and source out

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Speaker 1: where this wedding is taking place. I do want to

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Speaker 1: point out that we're choosing not to share the date

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Speaker 1: and the time of certain events because I think that

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Speaker 1: that has the potential to jeopardize the couple's day and

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Speaker 1: also their safety, because you never know if fans are

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Speaker 1: to scout out the location. I mean highly likely they

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Speaker 1: it was an influencer who leaked this information. I would

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Speaker 1: love to know the conversation that's gone on between Tammy

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Speaker 1: a lot of media interest in this story. So much

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Speaker 1: opportunity to share it to her followers. I was interested

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Speaker 1: to see how other pages dealt with this, because we

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Speaker 1: did have people trying to post the details in our

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Speaker 1: Facebook group, but we didn't approve the post because, as

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Speaker 1: Now Influencer updates Au. She ended up sharing details of

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Speaker 1: the couple's online wedding invite to her close Friends story

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Speaker 1: so people who subscribe to her channel could see this information. Now.

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Speaker 1: She's been on Matt and Anna's podcast before. Oh Mate

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Speaker 1: Forgot Yeah, So Matt actually reached out to her and

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Speaker 1: It also appears that Tammy and Matt reached out to

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Speaker 1: Sofa Dofha because that section of the vlog has now

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Speaker 1: been edited. It was just such a major fuck up

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Speaker 1: by Sofa Doper. I just want to know what she

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Speaker 1: because I feel like there are just so many unspoken

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Speaker 1: wedding etiquette rules that maybe she didn't realize that you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be posting the invite. I mean, it's an even

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Speaker 1: bigger issue when this is a celebrity couple and people

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Speaker 1: found it pretty amusing that people seem to be obsessed

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Speaker 1: that it's a kid free event. Obviously, Tammy has three

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Speaker 1: of media headlines was around the fact that Tammy and

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Speaker 1: Matt have a wishing well. A wishing well is a

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Speaker 1: very normal thing most couples now have at their weddings,

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Speaker 1: but the media seemed to be obsessed with the fact

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Speaker 1: that Tammy is worth fifty million dollars and it's very

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Speaker 1: tacky of her to ask people for a gift. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Channel seven even ran with the headline Ozzie Afr rich

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Speaker 1: list Tammy Hembro worth fifty million dollars asked for donations

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Speaker 1: for her upcoming wedding to reality start Matt Zakowski. But

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Speaker 1: she hasn't asked for donations. It's a wishing well. It

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Speaker 1: how they actually phrased it, because I know with us,

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Speaker 1: thing read, your presence on the day is the greatest

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Speaker 1: for contributions and well wishes. So I mean she's not

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Speaker 1: some people are also saying that potentially Tammy may have

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Speaker 1: be giving first access to her wedding photos. So some

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Speaker 1: people are thinking, well, she could actually be making money

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is not going to be sponsored. Just

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Speaker 1: thinking about it a little bit more, we do know

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Speaker 1: that it is a destination wedding, so Matt is based

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne and tammy Is on the Gold Coast. Is

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Speaker 1: a little bit cheeky now thinking about it, to ask

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Speaker 1: for a wishing well donation when guests are probably having

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Speaker 1: these details might have been on the invite. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that they're covering the cost of the accommodation in

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Speaker 1: the flight. They did suggest some possible places for guests

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Speaker 1: to stay on the website, but to me it didn't

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Speaker 1: You'd be extra pissed off now that this invite has

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Speaker 1: what do you give a multimillionaire in their wishing well?

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Speaker 1: It's a hard one because I mean you've got to remember,

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Speaker 1: I would personally feel uncomfortable rocking up with nothing. I

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Speaker 1: how they're commenting when they're the ones telling me I

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00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't go anywhere near him because he's trouble. Oh, this

433
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: is all very high school now. Fans were quick to

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Speaker 1: also point out that Sammy participated in the same TikTok

435
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: trend with her ex, Caleb palter So. A while ago,

436
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: she shared a video about her ex with the caption

437
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Speaker 1: how it feels to wake up every day only responsible

438
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: for yourself and not a twenty something year old man

439
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: child who mistakes you for his mother and Kate, while

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00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: you said that this is very high school as a

441
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: thirty five year old, I'm living for this drama. I

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00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: think that there should be more of this drama online. Yeah,

443
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: exactly Air, You're dirty laundry now. Sophia went even more

444
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: rogue because she responded to the drama in a private

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00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: Facebook forum. In a thread detailing the event, she wrote,

446
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: he's all about hashtag don't bully when I have whole

447
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: notes lists on my phone from the relationship of fucked

448
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: shit he did to me, So if he wants to

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00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: act like the victim, I'll have no regrets saying all

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00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: of it. She then went on to say that, upon reflection,

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00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: she should have worded the caption differently, as it wasn't

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00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 1: her intention to look like she was flaunting her wealth.

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00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: She argued that she didn't name her ex and didn't

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Speaker 1: think it would cause astir sing as it's a trend

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00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: everyone is doing. She added, but funny how all his

456
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: friends in inverted commas are commenting when they were the

457
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: one saying stay away and warning me lol, but everyone

458
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: is saying I'm still obsessed. Trust me. I'd rather be

459
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: single for the rest of my life than go near

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00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: that again. It's a trend about X's so I hopped on.

461
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: People always say influencers lose their personality and become so boring.

462
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: And it's because the second we do anything besides stand

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00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: there and lip sync, we get fucked for it. So

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00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: back to lip syncing and fit checks. I go, no

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00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: more trends for me. She does have a very good point,

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Speaker 1: because I think people really love following along this type

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Speaker 1: of drama. But what generally happens is that people begin

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00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: to take it too far and start piling on an individual.

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00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: They don't just take the drama for what it is

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00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: as a bit of fun, yeah, and it becomes an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for people to jump in and try and get

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Speaker 1: their own views and create their own engagement by putting

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Speaker 1: their two cents worth into it. I actually don't even

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Speaker 1: think that Sophia posted this to create engagement. I just

475
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: think it's a reflection on her age. I can see

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00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: why Sophia would find it so triggering to see her

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00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: ex friend Sammy jumping to the defense of her ex boyfriend,

478
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: particularly when there seems to be so much history between

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00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: them all. Yeah, I mean, it has been a very

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00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: big week for Sophia. She is providing the entertainment and

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00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: I like to pat her on the back for that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into our highs and lows of the week.

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Speaker 1: I'll start min off with a low. This is my

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00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: last podcast recording for a while. So Amy and Sophie

485
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: have been begging me to take maternity leave, and I'm

486
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: finally at a point where i can't actually push it

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00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: any further. So I'm very sad that this is the

488
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: last podcast recording because it's the podcast is like my baby,

489
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: my first baby, and I'm finding it really hard to

490
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: let go of control. I don't want people to fret

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00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: because I think that you probably are a bit of

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00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: a favorite on here because you always say how it

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00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: is you are going to be back, though, Oh definitely.

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00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I'll be pushing to come back as soon as I

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00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: possibly can. It's just really hard to know what life

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00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: with a newborn will be like. But I will be

497
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: roping in a lot of babysitters, so I hopefully won't

498
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: be missing from too many podcasts recording. I'm actually nervous

499
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: to do it without UK because I know that you'll

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00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: be listening. I can just tell that when you're up

501
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: early in the morning doing those feeds, you'll probably be

502
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: catching up on the podcast and be writing down a

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00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: little list of things that we've said wrong or things

504
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: that you're not happy about. Yes, I will be keeping

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00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: a close eye on it to ensure that the quality

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Speaker 1: control is there. As for my high of the week,

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00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: I actually have two small highs. One is the fifteen

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00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: dollar and Co slippers that I brought from Kmart. I

509
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: snapchatted you last night saying that I was so pleased

510
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: with my purchase. There are a ripoff of the ugs,

511
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: and what I like most about them is that they're

512
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: actually not made from sheep skin, because being vegetarian, I

513
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: feel guilty wearing leather. My partner for probably four years,

514
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: every winter he bought me quite an expensive pair of

515
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: rug boots which was that UGS brand, and every year

516
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: I somehow destroyed them. I would get mold in them,

517
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: I'd leave them outside, I'd leave them too close to

518
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: my shower. Given up so my feet are very cold

519
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: at the moment, so I'm gonna have to invest in

520
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: some fifteen dollar ones. Oh they're so comfortable. My other

521
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a high is that I had you

522
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: and your partner and also mum and dad over the

523
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: other day and as you were leaving, Brandon made a

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: comment about, oh, you know, upcoming family dinners, the baby

525
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: will be there, and he made a comment to my

526
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: mum saying, oh, don't worry. At least Kate will provide

527
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the baby it's food. And you chimed in and said,

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00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: that's a bit unfair. Why can't rese help with the

529
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: baby's food. Well, I was trying to be very feminist

530
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: and say that you shouldn't be the one just providing

531
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: all of the food and organizing the baby's food. But

532
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I quickly discovered that babies don't eat food. Yeah, so

533
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: Sophie wasn't aware that babies actually drink milk and that

534
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: they don't eat solidung. I knew. I knew that they

535
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: drink milk, I didn't know that that's all they had. Yeah,

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00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: So it was pretty funny because you were trying to

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00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: pay Brandon out, but then it backfired very quickly. On you.

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00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean that just blew my mind. I was wondering

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: why you weren't stressing thinking about, Oh my god, what

540
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: am I going to be? I mean, I didn't think

541
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: that the baby sat down for a full course meal,

542
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: but I just thought, perhaps you purade some vegetables and

543
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: fruit and stuff. I don't know, that's not for a while.

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00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would actually prefer to just

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00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: purate food than having to breastfeed for every single meal.

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00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be time quite time consumer. Yeah. Well,

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00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to take that as my low

548
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: of the week because that was rather embarrassing. My high

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: of the week is that Love Island UK is back

550
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: and I was a little bit apprehensive watching the first

551
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: episode because I really loved the all star series that

552
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: played at the beginning of the year. I liked that

553
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: the old characters were back. You felt nostalgic towards them,

554
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: and I liked having a cast I was familiar with.

555
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: And I was worried that I wouldn't like this bunch

556
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: of twenty four year olds because the majority of them

557
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: are twenty four, even though it's being reported that they

558
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: look a lot older. They have clopped a lot of

559
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: flak for looking older. Apparently there's a lot of ages.

560
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: In lot of ages, I mean, I'm quite offended because

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00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: everyone's like, look thirty five, as if that's the biggest

562
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: insult in the world. Yeah, but then poor Joey s

563
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: six is copying it, saying that he looks ancient. Everyone's like,

564
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: Louis's close to forty, he's thirty three. Anyway, my high

565
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: is that this season has been so dramatic so far.

566
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: Saffron Barker's best friend Harriet is in there. She is

567
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: not disappointed she is carrying that show. I mean, I

568
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't say she's my favorite contestant on there, but she's

569
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of the drama. Yeah. To be honest,

570
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: she hasn't come across as very likable, but I'm very

571
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: happy that she's there because she has been involved in

572
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of different love triangles. She's entertaining. I saw

573
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: actually show the Cheap Seats. You probably don't know because

574
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: he's not much free to air TV, but that they

575
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: were calling her Varuka Salt because in an entrue video

576
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: she's like mad dad brings me a coffee in the

577
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: morning and he turns my car around that is spot on.

578
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend people going and checking out Love

579
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Island UK though. It is the perfect show to watch

580
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: now that it's winter, because I'm finding myself vicariously living

581
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: through the contestants on there. I think that is all

582
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: we have time for. Kate. I'm so sad that you

583
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: won't be joining us for the next couple of episodes,

584
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: but it is going to be such an exciting time

585
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Yes, it will be.

586
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I am sad as well. I have promised Reese that

587
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: this is my last day of work because he keeps

588
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: telling me to rest. This podcast was recorded on the

589
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: We pay respect to Elder's past and present, and if

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: you do enjoy the show and want extra content, we

592
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: drop a bonus episode every Thursday with extra influencer topics.

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Speaker 1: My favorite segment from the Subs episode this week was

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00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: how a brand has ripped off book Hogan's iconic yellow

595
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: bridesnad dresses, so her brand Lemone designed them and randomly

596
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: she noticed that this brand has taken one of her photos.

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00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: They have edited different faces onto the bridesmaids, just so

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Speaker 1: that they can try and copy the dresses. Yes, we

599
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: do go into depth on that, plus a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other influencer topics