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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher, join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to the Podoh. I'm going to be really

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Speaker 2: straight up with you. I was so nervous to ask

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Speaker 2: today's guests on the podcast. Honestly, I thought they'd say no.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd be too busy and be like no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Like Darren Tiese is today's guest. He's an incredibly, incredibly

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Speaker 2: successful photographer here. He's also a creative director. He's also

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Speaker 2: got his own clean skin care range. Literally NonStop Aussie

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Speaker 2: living in La has been in La for Yonks Now

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Speaker 2: and done some massive, massive campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Also has created.

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Speaker 2: His own book called The Booty Book for Brain Cancer,

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Speaker 2: which he created when he lost a dear friend of

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Speaker 2: his two brain cancer super young as well, and so

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Speaker 2: he kind of called in on all his friends and

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Speaker 2: shot them to raise funds and proceeds for brain cancer.

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Speaker 1: And I just blew me away.

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Speaker 2: Right before I came to La Jane, our mutual friend

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Speaker 2: showed me these beautiful books, and literally on the front

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Speaker 2: cover of one of them is Scajo and on the

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Speaker 2: other one is Olivia Wilde, and you turn these beautiful pages,

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Speaker 2: all these incredible talented actors and models, and it's just

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Speaker 2: like Holy mackerel, It's like zac Efron, justin Timberlake, Biba Mirandakur.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. And yeah, like I said, I was totally

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Speaker 2: in awe of Darren is also like straight up sees

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Speaker 2: I love that. It's a very inspiring energy to be around.

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Speaker 2: And also he's built his own company from scratch too,

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Speaker 2: so I think you'll be able to learn so much

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Speaker 2: from Darren. Like I said, he's got this really great,

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Speaker 2: unapologetically real sense of who he is and I love

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Speaker 2: that so guaranteed. Thank you so much for jumping on

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Speaker 2: the pod, my friend. It is a total honor to

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Speaker 2: have you.

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Speaker 1: Big love.

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Speaker 2: Guaranteese photographer, director, brand owner, creative director.

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Speaker 1: Did I get that right?

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Speaker 3: Kind of sums it up today. Done a lot these days,

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for jumping on the pod. You're awesome,

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Speaker 1: But I.

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Speaker 2: Am so excited to dip into like your career and

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Speaker 2: what led you to here? Because when I googled you

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Speaker 2: and your life right now, like you've got every A

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Speaker 2: grade celebrity under the sun. You own your own amazing

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Speaker 2: skin care range that I'm a huge fan of and

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Speaker 2: have on right now.

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Speaker 1: Obsessed, I am obsessed with it all.

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Speaker 2: But I want to know where this like Aussie Aussie boy,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you studied in Sydney right, correct, parents' photographers?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 1: Did you tell me.

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Speaker 2: Last time we hung out? That used to be like

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Speaker 2: a really competitive swimmer as well.

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Speaker 4: I swam in high school? Correct? So where I'm defeated

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Speaker 4: in high school?

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Speaker 3: Really, I was the fastest in my school, well in

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Speaker 1: So you could have gone to the Olympics, mate.

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Speaker 4: No, I was great better. I mean, yeah, if I

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Speaker 4: was six foot five, maybe you're.

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Speaker 1: Very very tall.

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Speaker 3: I feel, oh yeah, like I'm just like five inches enough,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you needed to be tall for swimming.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to be. But the ones that win

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Speaker 4: Five, big boys. Yeah, got you machines.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So was the first kind of like break the

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Speaker 2: Dolly campaign when you were just twenty years old.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, that was my first pay job. So how

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Speaker 3: did that come about? Well, I started shooting some models

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Speaker 3: And I put my book together when I was about nineteen,

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Speaker 3: So I was like it was a sign, you know

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Speaker 2: Very young to have had that kind of like success.

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Speaker 2: And we're mum and dad photographers as.

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Speaker 3: Well, so stepfather as a photographer was and Mum and

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Speaker 2: So on school holidays, were you like soaking it up,

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Speaker 2: You're in Australia cover of Dolly magazine. That's pretty massive.

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Speaker 2: Did you always have a hunger for Like no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: So I think your superpower is having been lucky enough

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Speaker 1: We thank you, Jane mcline for making that happen.

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Speaker 2: But you can read human behavior so well, like psychically.

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Speaker 2: the best compliment ever. But I felt very seen by

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Speaker 1: It felt like that anyway.

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Speaker 1: And to be honest, I'd learned. I've learned that I've.

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Speaker 3: Been able to read people, but I've got really good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get whereas we're a bit like laid back.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, well the boys are like an hour. When we

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Speaker 3: did for the beauty book, they have an hour. But

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Speaker 3: even like on jobs, even sometimes you will have them

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Speaker 3: for a couple of hours. But if it's you know,

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Speaker 3: big money jobs, you you might you'll probably get people

445
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Speaker 3: for a full day. If you know your body on

446
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Speaker 3: an endorsement or a diet code, then they don't getting

447
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Speaker 3: mad of lot.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be there all day.

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Speaker 3: But when it's like a magazine or yeah, some sort

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Speaker 3: of press that it can.

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Speaker 4: Usually be an hour.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, depending on you know, how many people they've

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Speaker 3: lined up.

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Speaker 1: What is there something that stands out?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you've done so much amazing stuff and

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing magazines, the remix magazines, I think they're called

457
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Speaker 2: behind You, and you've done all those covers, haven't you.

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Speaker 1: You've done a lot of those covers.

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Speaker 2: Has there any been any moment where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I love that there's going to be heaps, But is

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Speaker 2: there a few moments where you're just like pinch me,

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Speaker 2: like standout moments.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't all of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not like ever pinched as in like pinch me,

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Speaker 3: because as I said, like if I said I have

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Speaker 3: to do something, I usually do. It's more like our

467
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Speaker 3: great work, like you're on, I don't really think about it.

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Speaker 3: But like with the photos, for instance, like when a

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Speaker 3: cover comes out, if I've shot it, I'm usually really

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Speaker 3: happy with because I would have deleted it or you know,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put it through so by the time it

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Speaker 3: gets to magazine print, whatever it's.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm usually happy. I'm really happy.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have anything published I didn't love of my

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Speaker 1: own work.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I think that's.

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Speaker 2: Just experience, but that's also like knowing doing the work

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Speaker 2: and knowing that you're good like and working hard little Leohart,

479
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Speaker 2: that's what that is. Okay, So how do then you

480
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Speaker 2: go from this incredible career as photographer director?

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Speaker 1: How then do you go to? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I'm into clean beauty and this is something that I

483
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Speaker 2: want to focus on as well because the products are

484
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Speaker 2: freaking amazing. I'm a bit of an iced be a

485
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Speaker 2: makeup artist, so I'm a bit of a snob with

486
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Speaker 2: what I put on my skin. Not a snob, but

487
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Speaker 2: I really care about what I put on my skin

488
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Speaker 2: because my skin reacts like I get X Mart and

489
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Speaker 2: my skin super reactive. So when you gave me your

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Speaker 2: oh that mask, the probody.

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Speaker 4: Is it a prody?

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Speaker 3: So good?

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Speaker 1: I put it in the fridge.

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Speaker 2: I told you my trick I put in and do

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Speaker 2: you know my other trick because I want to have

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Speaker 2: the youthful hands and I've been using the body scrub declotage.

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Speaker 4: So for women like it on that declotage, girl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I and even the body scrub I'll

499
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Speaker 2: do like any leftover bits, I'll do back.

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Speaker 1: Of my hands as well.

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Speaker 2: So the products are amazing, cruelty free, vegan, vegan, clean, toxic.

502
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Speaker 4: And then we have the USA stand but which is

503
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Speaker 4: really important. So the brand was born.

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Speaker 3: Friend and I were, you know, talking about doing something

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Speaker 3: and obviously I've always more my kinds have always been beauty,

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Speaker 3: hair and beauty.

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Speaker 4: So with my.

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Speaker 3: Career, I've always worked with those, you know, the Loreals

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Speaker 3: and the Poor Mitchell's and all the brands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about what could we do and

512
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Speaker 3: we're you know, like a side hustle. Yeah, and she

513
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Speaker 3: was interested more in CBDA and it was you know

514
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Speaker 3: back then it was still it's still kind of hard

515
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Speaker 3: now with the because it's still not really approved even

516
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Speaker 3: in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Really hard, even harder.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, no, I'm not gonna I don't

519
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Speaker 3: want to tackle it because I just know, like and

520
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Speaker 3: there was also so many people doing it that had

521
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Speaker 3: like a bucket of money.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to smell on in skin boards.

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Speaker 3: I want to smell I'm not it does it didn't

524
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Speaker 3: like fancy and I said, let's go like to Sephora

525
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Speaker 3: and like do it does the research on what we

526
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Speaker 3: feels missing, you know, like let's try and find if

527
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Speaker 3: there's like something that they're not doing that we could deal.

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Speaker 3: And so after spending like hours and Sophara and going

529
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Speaker 3: to Alter and like some of the stores and all that,

530
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Speaker 3: we realized that there was there really isn't. Everyone says natural,

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Speaker 3: but there really isn't true organic which is like certified

532
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Speaker 3: USD Organic, which is the USA stamp, and it works.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like in Australia, Like I know, I've tried stuff

534
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Speaker 2: before and I'm like it kind of like rolls off

535
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Speaker 2: the skin or it doesn't absorb properly, like your stuff

536
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Speaker 2: feels great and like under makeup and smells great.

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Speaker 3: Because the other the other problem we had was there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of brands that have good products, but the

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Speaker 3: smell is like I'm not going to any big brands,

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Speaker 3: but there's a couple of big brands that do well.

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Speaker 3: But that's I mean for her and I we were like,

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Speaker 3: and she's a chef. I was like, yeah, what is

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Speaker 3: this smell? Like you know my business pand of Pambella.

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Speaker 3: She's she's a personal chef, yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: We were like what.

546
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Speaker 3: I was like, does this smell like crap to you?

547
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Speaker 3: And she's like, oh my god, like vomit. So we

548
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Speaker 3: were heavily with our brand. Wanted it to be big ones,

549
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Speaker 3: get big, good for your big clean and also smell

550
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Speaker 3: like you want to eat it. You know. Panzine was

551
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Speaker 3: always food for his skin because obviously with a shift background,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's about skin feed but also like if

553
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Speaker 3: it smells good, then you're don't want to put it on, right,

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Speaker 3: There's I think always putting a mask on that smells

555
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Speaker 3: like Unhiragatha's old cupboard.

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Speaker 1: Seriously though, it stops me using certain stuff.

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Speaker 2: But also, like I said, because my skin's reactive, like

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Speaker 2: I can put a face mask on and come out

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Speaker 2: in like.

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Speaker 3: Welts after and you will because of the preservatives in

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Speaker 3: there and stuff. So we've had such success with our products,

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Speaker 3: especially with like people with skin problems crisis and exema

563
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Speaker 3: and like super duper duper sensitive where they're like, this

564
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Speaker 3: is the only product I've ever been able to use.

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Speaker 3: So that's there's definitely a truth to the purest of

566
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Speaker 3: organic because it so the certified organic means the farming

567
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Speaker 3: is like governed. Yes, so however they extract their OL's hard,

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Speaker 3: it's done. Everything is like it's protected. Whereas if the

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Speaker 3: natural where it's you know, farmed where in the world

570
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Speaker 3: with pesticides and stripped with god knows what to get

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Speaker 3: it out likely that you know, takes away from the purity.

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Speaker 4: And already I think that's really good for you.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. You know this the skin absorbs

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Speaker 1: everything you want it to twenty six seconds really yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: very quick.

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Speaker 2: So for Ossie's listening to this, how can they get

577
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Speaker 2: their hands on this stuff? Because obviously this is a

578
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Speaker 2: base here in La.

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Speaker 3: Well, you'd have to buy it direct from miss bloom

580
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Speaker 3: dot com. We're not Invalle, we're not available in Australia

581
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Speaker 3: thanks to COVID. We were working on distribution, but everything's

582
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Speaker 3: got hold of held up, so right us direct?

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Speaker 1: That's okay though it directs great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just have to buy the mouse, so

585
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Speaker 3: better to buy you know, a few things. So you're

586
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Speaker 3: shipping is you know, because the shipping is obviously, but.

587
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Speaker 1: You can get bundles.

588
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Speaker 4: You've got the bundles are great.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way of like getting a little taste

590
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Speaker 2: of everything, and like the other thing is, yes we're

591
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Speaker 2: talking face here, but it's also bodycare as well.

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Speaker 4: Face somebody so good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you've got this incredible photography career, you've had

594
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Speaker 2: all this success in Australia before even thirty you come here.

595
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Speaker 2: You've chased this dream and you've just been like, that's

596
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Speaker 2: a goal. I'll just tick that off my list basically,

597
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Speaker 2: and you work, obviously, work very very hard to achieve that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always had goals.

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Speaker 3: That's why I told all all my friends who are younger, like,

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Speaker 3: if you don't set a.

601
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Speaker 4: Goal, how can you achieve it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: So I had a plan, like you know, even from

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Speaker 3: thirty to forty to buy a house.

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Speaker 4: And I bought my house you know, when I was

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Speaker 4: thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: This house is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise I see, like again, like plan strategy activated done.

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Speaker 4: You know, like if you don't, if you're not, if

611
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Speaker 4: you don't work like.

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Speaker 3: That, you know, unless you win a lotto, Like it's

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Speaker 3: really I just said, oh I'm going to buy house.

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Speaker 2: So because I do a little bit like that, I'm

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Speaker 2: a bit of a goal setter. Like and as you

616
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Speaker 2: can say, I've got my little notes on your here,

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Speaker 2: like I'm a I write things down, But would you

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Speaker 2: say that you do like, okay, from thirty to forty,

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Speaker 2: I want to achieve this kind of stuff and then

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Speaker 2: work backwards and make like smaller steps in the lead

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Speaker 2: up to get there.

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Speaker 1: Or are you just like macro focused.

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Speaker 3: Like the big goals, because I think it's like this

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Speaker 3: is my plan and this is and I'm giving myself

625
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Speaker 3: aistic goal and it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to

626
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Speaker 3: do that next week, like this is what I want

627
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Speaker 3: to do in time, like even with the shooting, like

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Speaker 3: I want to do this, but and you know who

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Speaker 3: I wanted to work.

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Speaker 4: With and all that.

631
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Speaker 3: But you have to be realistic, you know, because if

632
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Speaker 3: you're not, then delusional. So I think I was just

633
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Speaker 3: realistic with my goals. But everything I've you know, and

634
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Speaker 3: there's even more news coming which we can share.

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Speaker 1: I know, we have feel part.

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Speaker 4: I know there's always That's the thing. That's what I

637
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Speaker 4: love about America.

638
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Speaker 3: There's always something happening that you just and the next

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Speaker 3: one is even super fun, which I never even thoughtoul

640
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Speaker 3: happened in my life.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I love this country.

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Speaker 3: That's why I love living in the States because like

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Speaker 3: you know, been of access to the great career, great

644
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Speaker 3: clients and then oh a skincare brand that you have

645
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Speaker 3: access to three hundred million population via eCOM. You know,

646
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: Like it's just the numbers here that and we sell

647
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: so much like out of California, like the people, like

648
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Speaker 3: the whole of America buying is bloom and it's fascinating,

649
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Speaker 3: like when you see the like the Texas and in

650
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Speaker 3: Alaska and you know, like Washington and every like when

651
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: orders go out, like we can check our sales list.

652
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Speaker 3: It's incredible with the you know, the wealth of people

653
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Speaker 3: here that you know with e comm, which is so great,

654
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Speaker 3: like because right now it's an eCOM.

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Speaker 1: Business, so I've got an eCOM business as well. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I think it's so powerful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was the only good thing about twenty

658
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Speaker 3: twenty was because of the pandemic in the US, Like

659
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: the ECM side of our business was huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like especially because self care was such a thing

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Speaker 2: that was celebrated when people were home.

662
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Speaker 1: The numbers, yeah, the numbers were like it just yeah,

663
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: it's been big.

664
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Speaker 4: It's been really big.

665
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: So you just touched on when you give your younger

666
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: friend's advice and being like, so for people listening to

667
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: this that are just like, oh my goodness, Like, you know,

668
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: I've got a dream. I really want to chase something creative,

669
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: like what would your advice? But yes, set the macro goals,

670
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: like set the big goals, but is it like set

671
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: realistic goals and then each day do something to kind

672
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: of like step in the right direction.

673
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: If you want a creative goal, then you have to

674
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: obviously take the right If you want to be a

675
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: creative director, an art director, or a photographer, then you

676
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: obviously need to get the skills to do it. So

677
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: number one is get the skills right, work it, and

678
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: make sure you're good at it, Yeah, because you can't

679
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: also be the best and do well and if it's

680
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: not really something you're good at as well, I think

681
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: so you know, naturally I was, I have a great

682
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: eye for photography, and I also have the brain to

683
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: you know, work lighting out and get it together easily

684
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: for me. So it's going to make sure that it

685
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: aligns with who you are. I think the career that

686
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: you're doing totally.

687
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: But the more that I talk to you, the more

688
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I feel like your.

689
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: Emotional IQ is like super high because you I feel

690
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: like you can see and call bs pretty quick, and

691
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: you're just like focused on a goal ahead of you.

692
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you can.

693
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: We've just spoken about how you can read human beings

694
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: really well. But I also think you're like, Okay, if

695
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: this is my goal, I need to do X, Y,

696
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 2: and Z to get to that goal. I'm not going

697
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: to let this other crap get.

698
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: In the way of doing those things.

699
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: And like, this podcast is called Fearlessly Failing, And so

700
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: has it ever been any setbacks where you're like, oh

701
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: my god, like this feels really hard right now?

702
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's I mean, you know there was there

703
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: has been stepbacks. I mean not in the photography career,

704
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: but I mean I had other businesses before I moved

705
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: to America that we were one was about to be

706
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: sold to a really big like it was really exciting

707
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: for the business and I was going to if it.

708
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: Sold, it would have been huge.

709
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: The buy was amazing, but it fell through because after

710
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: September eleventh.

711
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course the deal.

712
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: Fell through, and at that point it was like, oh

713
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: my god, like we needed this. But if that deal

714
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: had it happened, I probably might have not come to

715
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: the States. Because I would have been it wasn't my bar,

716
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So and then I had

717
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: another business that didn't do very well too, and because

718
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: I think the fault with that I was young, and

719
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: I also then let my business partner run it, and

720
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 3: I don't think she had the skills really to make

721
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: it successful. And it was also my fault for not

722
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: taking control a bit more and letting like, you know, trusting.

723
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: So I learned from that in the sense of like, yeah,

724
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: definitely go with you intuition and be a bit more

725
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: dominant with stuff, which obviously I've activated now.

726
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: But you're inspiring me so about that. I feel like

727
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: I need to be tiky.

728
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: But when it came out once come to the photography creen,

729
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: and I've always made that's always been on a great

730
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: path and I've always worked and a great network of

731
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: people and even you know, still friends with Even when

732
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: I brought the first book out, I reached out to

733
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: a lot of editors I've known for a long time.

734
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: And everyone supported me in Australia like I'd seen them

735
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: for a long time.

736
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: There was a massive support for people that just like

737
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: of course we were public, you know. Christie Clemens was

738
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: the editor of Vaguan. I reached out to Christie and

739
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: she was like, of course we will. We would love

740
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: to feature a book Darren, Like there was so much

741
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: welcome kindness with the first book from people that hadn't

742
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: seen a long time as well, and just an email

743
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: and sending out a book, you know, and everyone supported

744
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: and I love that about the Australians.

745
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also the industry in.

746
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Austral too is small and we all know each other

747
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: and there was so much support with everyone, which I

748
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: really I mean I went when I came back and

749
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: did like the tour when sawt different editors and everyone

750
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: was like so happy and it was just it was

751
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: really lovely.

752
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: There was no jealousy and I was really.

753
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: I love the Aussie here as well, like you've invited

754
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: me over a couple of times. Like Aussie's really kind

755
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: of I think as well, because for an Australian to

756
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: get a green card, visa anything here, it's really hard.

757
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: It's not easy. There are a lot of there's a

758
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of hoops to jump through.

759
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: It's really hard now.

760
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: And so well, thank you for taking me under your

761
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: wing as well, because it was like it's scary when

762
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: la Is amazing, but it's tough, Like it's.

763
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: So tough, and it's not easy to meet people in

764
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: the beginning totally, and I didn't like I only knew

765
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: for people too. We all hung out together and then

766
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: but we would go out and meet people and swap

767
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: numbers and then they would never never hear from them again.

768
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: So people flaky. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.

769
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: As much as they're like, you get a bar and

770
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: they're like, you're cute, and then like swap numbers, you

771
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: just don't ever hear from them. So yeah, it did

772
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: take time to you know, it does take time.

773
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: It takes time in.

774
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: No matter what. That's why I was like, hey, come

775
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: over the ball, putty, meet people. I know you are

776
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: the best.

777
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: Throughout the life, the Auzzi.

778
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: Life, Oh I love I loved it to ender the

779
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: pool Puddy, No, I loved it so much.

780
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: And for me as well, Like I think I told you,

781
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I've started acting classes, so like that's given me well

782
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: a heavy workload but also an amazing community. But one

783
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: thing that I realized, like I can be in acting

784
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: school in Australia and versus being in acting school here.

785
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: My classmates are auditioning for like big movies right now

786
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: and like SNL right now, And I'm like, oh wow,

787
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: this is the mecca for the media industry, which is

788
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: your industry as well, And so I understand how you

789
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: feel about like the opportunity here is.

790
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge. I mean for all of them.

791
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: Like I think Liamham's worth what I remember with him

792
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: and when I was talking to him, like he was

793
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: literally he just he was about to go back again.

794
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: He had like months on his visa and he was

795
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: about to go back to Australia, and then he booked

796
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: the Marley Stars movie.

797
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: I think had like hit weeks. It was something like yeah,

798
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: and then he booked a movie.

799
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: It was just and that's the thing like with Miley

800
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: and then obviously look at his life, so it's just

801
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: timing and then you know, you know they do love

802
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: us is here.

803
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: And sticking it out as well.

804
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: I think like, well he was on two years like

805
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: I had my visas were three years at least. Yeah,

806
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: of course, So I was also like, if I don't

807
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: it took a good three years to start doing stuff.

808
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: I interviewed an acting coach yesterday and he said, the

809
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: biggest advice I can give you is that of Margot Robbie,

810
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: who came here with a buffer so that she could

811
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: live for three years and just audition and like give

812
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: herself the time to break.

813
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: You do need to. I mean I came with money too,

814
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: so you do. I mean if the.

815
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Ones people that moved to America and think they're going

816
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: to make it like in three weeks, like no, hash

817
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: take no.

818
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: I've emailed so many managers and they're like, you get

819
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: like no responses, and I'm.

820
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Like, oh wow, And.

821
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: Then I've learnt quickly that here it is actually connection based.

822
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: It's not actually.

823
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: Yeah I know.

824
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: And then you know, because Australians they import people with

825
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: like like great experience, so you're up against like you know,

826
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: Marga Robbie had done was a neighbors one of the

827
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: shows for years, so she had like massive camera experience.

828
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: So it's so easy for someone like her then audition

829
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: and then nail it because they know exactly.

830
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: What to do.

831
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: But all of them, I think Chris Sames like a

832
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: lot of them, but even like Hugo Weaving and all

833
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: the you know, established actors and movie stars, even Austream

834
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: moves like Nicoleven when she moved to they have done

835
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: so much in Australia like to move into an Oh,

836
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 3: they've got a master's their accent.

837
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: Somebody told me, Anthony Lapalia, I've been with three years

838
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: of American accent.

839
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: I've got an American therefore, okay, girl, so addictive.

840
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: But Anthony Opali got told by his an Australian acting teacher,

841
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: you can't act. And he came over here and look

842
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: at him in the eighties. He came over here and

843
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: now is like you know coined right, and so I yeah,

844
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: I thank you so much for like open now about

845
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: the opportunity.

846
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day long.

847
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: What's one little bit of like final question, I promise,

848
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: what's one little bit of like just I feel like

849
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: you've got such a strong head on your shoulders and

850
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: it's like your fiery Leo heart, which is awesome, but

851
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: just that little bit of wisdom if somebody is like,

852
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: because I think Australians and I've known this about myself,

853
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: like it's easy to sit and wants comfy and a

854
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: bit scary.

855
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Like the scary stuff. It's like, oh, I don't like

856
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: coming here is scary good scary, but it's scary.

857
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: I think what yes, I wasn't scared though. That's the

858
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: thing I'm not. I don't have that gene.

859
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you fearless.

860
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't scared. I was more like up for the challenge.

861
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, people say, don't you get lonely living

862
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: like in that house on your own. I'm like, now,

863
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: I just don't get length. But I'm a twin, but

864
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 3: so maybe and.

865
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Sebastians and I have Sebastian, But I don't think like that.

866
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: No, I just don't. It's just not in my realm.

867
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: Like it's just like I'm like, I wake up happy,

868
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: like what am I going to do today? Like I

869
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: don't think you know, I don't have that side.

870
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: But I love that about your brain. I think you

871
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: have a very awesome brain.

872
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 4: It is it's very like, very positive.

873
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: And my twins are saying, though she just went through

874
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: a cancer stage and she was so on top of

875
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: it and like not there was no late negativity and

876
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: just focused in like getting well. And she wasn't a

877
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: Debbie downer. Yeah like poor me. She wasn't a sad sir.

878
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: She just did her thing and and everyone it's all

879
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: my friends. It spoke to I said, why was this

880
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: just so positive. So I think it's just brains mindset.

881
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: And she just had you know, cancer removed and all that,

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Speaker 3: and it was was the scariest thing ever any all

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Speaker 3: of us, but she still remained really positive.

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Speaker 4: So it's definitely a mindset.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's you too though you're super Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're twins that we've definitely got the same and

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Speaker 3: you know, she definitely got that who Yeah, that's strength

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Speaker 3: and her tool.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, mindset, hang out with Leo's for anyone listening, because

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Speaker 2: Leo's are really inspiring.

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Speaker 4: Fine them people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you so much for really taking under

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Speaker 2: your wing.

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Speaker 1: You've been such an inspiration.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's very kind of you.

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Speaker 1: You're the best.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 2: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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