WEBVTT - The young Aussies using Ozempic 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.960 This episode contains distressing themes, including suicide and disordered eating. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.080 For twenty four to seven support, please contact Lifeline on 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.040 thirteen eleven fourteen. You'll find some links to more resources 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:13.880 in today's episode description. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:21.360 Welcome to the eighty second Golden Gloves, Ozempik's biggest night. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.680 Shall we think of this ozembic takeover in Hollywood? 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.640 Excuse me, Jennie, No, he's of ozembic. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.000 From viral weight loss drug to Hollywood punchline. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:32.800 What percent? 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.720 Shouldn't be the only ones whose body fat is one percent? 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:36.720 When I look. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.160 Around the room, I can't help but wonder is ozembic 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:39.680 right for me? 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.760 Before ozempic took social media by storm, it was touted 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.640 as the miracle drug that could end type two diabetes. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.000 Medications are changing the way that you think about diabetes 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.680 and weight management, but also cardiovascular risk management. Once lauded 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.640 as the silver bullet to the stars, Ozempic and other 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.520 similar medications slowly but surely crossed into the mainstream, bringing 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:09.360 with them new conversations about body image, ethics, health and accessibility. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.560 There is so much demand. There is demand for this 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.920 that outstrips anything we ever say. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.880 But what does the exploding global popularity of azenpic mean 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:20.800 for young. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.840 People, the entire body neutrality movement has almost had this 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.640 regression where it's like, I don't know, we're actually back 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.959 to those sizes that we're trying to get away from, 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.480 and here's a drug that's going to fix everything. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.240 Over the next three episodes, we'll explore the new world 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.280 of weight loss medication, its long term implications, the medical 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.520 and social ramifications of its growing popularity, and how it's 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.080 being prescribed and used in Australia Today. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.800 Medicine and marketing should not be disconnected. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.480 In this way, We'll. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.920 Speak to experts, advocates and the people whose lives have 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.800 been changed by ozempic, for better or for worse. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:01.840 From the daily os. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:12.280 I'm Emma Gillespie and this is investigating Ozempic Part one. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.320 Ozempic was first approved by health authorities in the US 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.440 in twenty seventeen as a medication to treat type two diabetes, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.200 approved for use in Australia the following year. The drug 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:31.040 now generates billions of dollars annually for its manufacturer, Novo Nordisk, 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.160 which has become one of the world's richest pharmaceutical companies. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:40.120 But what is ozempic and how does it actually work. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.480 So, Zempic's a drug name, and it's a drug name 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.639 for what is otherwise known as semaglue tide. Semaglue tide 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.120 falls into this family of drugs called glp ones. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:52.720 That's doctor Michael Bonding. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.600 He is the Australian Medical Association Chair of Public Health 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.239 and Sydney GP. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.400 Ozempic is the one that has been talked about so 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.960 much in the media, but actually there are two others 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.080 that get a lot of coverage as well. One is 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.000 called weigov which is just a higher dose version of ozempic, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.200 and another one that is called Munjaro. They act on 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.080 hormones in our body and generally they were developed for 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.280 diabetes patients. What they did for them was making sure 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.760 that the cells work better with insulin, but also then 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.639 that gastric emptying is slowed down so you feel fuller faster. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.320 You ended up with people losing significant amounts of weight, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.320 which for many people with diabetes is also a significant 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.720 benefit to improving their diabetic control. But for those who 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.720 don't have diabetes, that side effect has meant that these 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:50.280 drugs have become increasingly popular for an indication that they 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.840 weren't originally put on the market for. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.480 With those Zampig's popularity for dramatic weight loss, it's been 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.680 hard to get. But a new similar drug has the 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.400 same active ingredient as ozempig. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.760 Wheregovi helped people lose on average fifteen percent of their 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.840 body weight, that's compared with the nearly twenty three percent 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.920 achieved by Maunjaro. The battle of the weight loss drugs continues. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.039 Taken as an injection, usually once a week, doctor Bonning says, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:24.680 ozempic and other GLP one medications start working almost immediately, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.279 within a few hours. For twenty six year old Grace, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.640 the overall experience of weight loss medication gave her a 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.080 confidence that she had never felt before. Grace wrote to 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.559 us from Brisbane to tell us about her experience. Here's 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.080 a bit of her story, voiced by someone else. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.280 My entire life, I have been slightly overweight since becoming 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.640 an adult, working an office job, no longer doing sports, 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.200 the weight started to climb slightly. It wasn't until I 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.080 moved away from home and experienced a really rough time 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.599 that I ended up putting on significant weight in a 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.400 short period. This was the start of a number of 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.680 health problems for me. I had kidney stones, I had gallstones. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.200 I was generally unhappy and lacking a lot of self love. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.240 Grace has used both ozenpic and Munjaro at different times 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:13.920 since June twenty twenty three. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.960 Munjaro was significantly more expensive, but it gave me almost 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.880 no side effects. Because of that, I was able to 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.800 consistently stay on the medication for about six months. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.159 She lost over seventeen kilos during that time, and since then, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.160 Grace says her life has changed. Her confidence has transformed. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.479 The joined pain she used to feel daily has disappeared. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.080 I'm not embarrassed to walk up the stairs with someone. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.080 I feel confident that I could physically get myself out 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.160 of danger if I had to. The mobility is insane. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.480 The change of perspective is enormous. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.320 Grace said she feels in control of her food choices 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.240 for the first time in her life. She details experiencing 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.479 a shift in how she thinks about food, what Grace 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:03.279 describes as previous compulsions and food noise all day, every day. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.240 She told us it's a difficult thing to explain to 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.919 someone who's never experienced issues with food noise, but Grace 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.040 likens it to listening to a loud song on repeat, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.960 and you've got no ability to change the song, or 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.760 turn down the volume or take a break. For her, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.000 both glp won medications, Ozempic and Munjaro. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.960 Were like finally someone. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.719 Had given her a remote to listen to something else. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.479 It was so healing to know that I wasn't just 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.919 worse than skinny people, or I wasn't just weak. My 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.240 brain wasn't working against me anymore. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.279 Grace's story is just one of the hundreds of positive 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.640 anecdotes we received when we asked our audience about their 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:52.520 experiences using Ozenpic and similar medications. Dozens of TDA followers 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.039 told us that these drugs have changed their life, that 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.520 they've never been happier or healthier. Some of you told 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:04.400 us it's saved your life. We could go on for 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.400 hours talking through all the many glowing reviews we received 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.120 about Ozeenpic, Munjaro, and we go v. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.200 But while so many of you. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.920 Did have a positive experience with these medications, hundreds of 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:23.320 you also told us the exact opposite. Several TDA followers 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.680 told us they've ended up in hospital after taking ozenpic, 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.920 with gallbladder removal being the most commonly reported issue. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.800 As with most drugs, most side effects are dose dependent. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.200 They often are worse at higher doses. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:44.720 We'll be back with more of today's episode right after this. Ultimately, 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:49.520 GLP one medications like ozeenpic are still relatively new, and 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.640 that means the full list of side effects associated with 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:58.000 their long term use remains somewhat unknown. GPS and healthcare 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.040 providers can report adverse side effects relating to these medications 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.600 to the federal government's Department of Health. These reports are 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:11.320 tracked on the Therapeutic Goods Administration's Database of Adverse Event Notifications. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.640 The online tracker includes negative symptoms associated with the use 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.240 of any medication, but you can filter down by type. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.840 So that's what we did. To look at ozepic. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.960 Wegov and compounded products or pharmacy made versions of these drugs, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.520 as well as semagluetide products where the brand name was 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.680 not specified. Remembering that semaglutides are a type of GLP one. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.000 GLP ones are these weight loss medications that we are 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:44.600 talking about. On the database, gastro Intestinal disorders, including pancreatitis, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.160 made up around half of the adverse events reported between 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.559 January twenty twenty three and January twenty twenty five. But 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.440 there's another particularly sinister side effect associated with ozempic use 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:02.240 that's becoming increasingly prominent. I, for no reason whatsoever, and 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.199 I hadn't felt like this for a very long time, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.040 became suicidal unable to work. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.120 It was really quite unexplained. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.200 Mackenzie is a twenty six year old woman who sought 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.880 out a zenpic for weight management. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.480 I've tried diet exercise and haven't been able to get 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.800 that to work for the long term. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.080 But taking ozepic would lead her down one of the 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.480 most frightening periods of her life. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.960 I was really really concerned, and I chatted with my 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.959 partner about it, and he was like, well, the only 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.560 thing that has changed in your life is you going 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:31.800 on this particular medication. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.800 Suicidal ideation makes up one in every twenty adverse GLP 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.559 one reactions reported to the TGA database. Since January twenty 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.400 twenty three, there have been three reports of attempted suicide 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:50.240 and separately, two deaths by suicide associated with the use 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:55.320 of these medications. Ozepic was the only product suspected to 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.240 be related to both of those deaths. The TGA website 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.400 stresses that the reports included in the database doesn't mean 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.800 the details of the event have been confirmed or that 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.840 the event has been determined to be related to that 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.280 specific medication that it's listed alongside. The TGA says it 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.840 uses adverse event reports to quote identify when a safety 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.600 issue may be present, but it says assessing the safety 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.000 of a medication cannot be made using the tracker alone. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:31.240 Saw Juniper advertised and decided to go through the questionnaire 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.280 that they've got online, put in all accurate information, and 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.880 it gave me a prescription for ozenpic. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.359 Juniper is one of a growing number of online platforms 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.680 that privately prescribe weight loss medications without requiring face to 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.800 face consults. It's a virtual or telehealth service, and while 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:53.640 individual practitioners must comply with compulsory standards, there is no 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.760 current mandatory safety and quality standards framework for these platforms. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.480 Mackenzie disclosed to but that she'd been taking antidepressants since 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.199 her early teens before she received a prescription for ozenpic. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.440 So I started receiving that in the mail and injecting 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.079 that as per kind of the recommended guidelines. I kind 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.520 of had peace of mind that it would cover everything 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.080 that was in my medical history. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.840 Mackenzie started on what she said was quite a low 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.320 dose of ozempic, but a month later she ramped up 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.680 to a higher dose, and that's when she says things 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.680 started feeling off, essentially out of nowhere. She describes experiencing 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:38.920 suicidal ideations. Mackenzie shared her concerns with her regular GP, 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.600 but that GP is not the person who prescribed her 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.800 this medication. She got the drugs through Juniper. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.880 He said that he'd seen this in a number of patients. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.720 He explained to me how it kind of worked, and 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.360 one of the things is that it slows the digestive system, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.080 which then can have negative effects on absorption. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.240 The medication Mackenzie was taking had stopped her body from 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.320 absorbing the antidepressants that she'd been used to taking for 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.679 more than a decade. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.920 I was in such a bad place that he suggested 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.559 I go to hospital, stop taking it and contact Gina 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.079 pet to let them know that I was no longer 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.679 taking it and explain what the side effects of that 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:15.600 had been for me. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.000 Mackenzie followed the advice of her regular GP and stopped 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.640 taking ozebic immediately, but due to the slow release nature 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.200 of the drug, it took over a month for her 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.480 to start feeling like herself again. The twenty six year 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.120 old said she was surrounded by the right people and 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.840 the right support to get herself back to feeling safe 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:37.959 and happy. She considers herself one of the lucky ones, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.239 but Mackenzie holds broader concerns about what these prescribing practices 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.679 could mean that at risk young people. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.080 The fact that this is so freely available without even 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.920 so much as a zoom call or a face to 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.920 face check in is really really concerning to me, and 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.640 I think something needs to be done regarding the access 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.840 people have to this medication. I'm not saying that we 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.000 should never use it and that it should be totally 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.320 out of the question, but I think some kind of 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.000 regulation needs to be put in place. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.920 So how are these medications regulated and how many people 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.319 are taking them in Australia. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.600 The short answer to the second part of. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:18.200 That question is really we have no idea, and that's 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.960 because of the way that these drugs are classified by 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:26.600 health regulators and something called the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme, The PBS. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.080 Ozepic is funded by the Australian government, so on the 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.800 PBS for those people who meet certain parameters around their 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.720 type two diabetes, so those people need to be the 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.840 ones who are prioritized to get access to it. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:42.000 Let's break that down. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.240 Ozepic is a PBIS listed drug for type two diabetes treatment, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.040 so because of that, it'll cost a diabetic around forty 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.120 dollars a month to access. That doesn't mean it's illegal 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.880 to use ozepic for other reasons, but it does mean 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.880 prescriptions issued for a purpose other than diabetes, what's called 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.360 off label uses, aren't subsidized by the PBS and therefore 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.600 aren't tracked by it either. These private scripts also cost 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.520 patients upwards of four hundred dollars a month. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.080 The other two medications are not on the PBS for 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.040 that indication. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.280 Doctor Michael Bonning is talking about Munjaro and we go 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.560 v but we gov could soon become cheaper for some 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.680 people who take it after the TGA recently approved this 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.200 drug as a treatment for heart disease in overweight patients. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.360 This means the Medicine regulator has determined there is satisfactory 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.880 evidence that we govy is an effective complementary therapy for 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:42.280 adults with both cardiovascular disease and high body mass index 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.040 to reduce the related risk of heart attack, stroke or death. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.120 We can find out how many people take ozenpic for 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.840 type two diabetes treatment, and we might soon be able 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.000 to find out how many people take we go v 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.240 as a treatment for heart disease, But for everything else 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.160 it's virtually impossible to determine and the scale of the 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.600 use of these medications. Doctor Emma Beckett, a food and 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.560 nutrition scientist and an adjunct Senior lecturer at UNSW, says 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.640 this is an issue that needs to shift urgently. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.600 My suspicion is the vast number of people accessing these 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:23.400 medications in Australia are accessing them through telehealth and not 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.560 through their standard GP. And for me, the question is 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.120 why are they going to their standard GP, and their 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.720 standard GP is going no, no, you don't need that, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:34.920 and you go to the people who are selling them 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.400 directly and that's their purpose and they go, well, of 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.280 course you can have that. And so my question is 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.000 about how do we look at that context because I 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.520 don't think we have that data. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.400 So without that database of prescriptions, we decided to look 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.120 into this further to get a sense of how young 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:58.080 people are engaging with these medications. Around twenty five thousand 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.760 of you responded to a poll by The Daily Ods. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.560 Eleven percent told us they had used Ozenpic or a 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.920 similar drug. We asked the eighty nine percent who hadn't 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.680 used it if they've ever wanted to try ozenpic. Forty 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:17.400 three percent of respondents said yes. We heard from nurses, surgeons, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.280 GP and other health professionals who said GLP one medications 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.520 licosenpic are among the most prescribed drugs in the country, 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.200 but it's how people are accessing these drugs, or rather 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.840 where they're getting their prescriptions that has some experts concerned. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.560 If you Google interested in these drugs, the top hits 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.000 are not results to studies, They're not informational pieces. They're 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.520 links to the companies who are selling it, and medicine 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:53.720 and marketing should not be disconnected in this way because 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:58.920 I can't think of any other medication that happens like this. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:08.239 On the next episode of Investigating Ozenpic, we take a 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.840 closer look at the online providers prescribing weight loss medication 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.320 in Australia. We'll look into their duty of care and 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.400 whether or not they're meeting those responsibilities. We'll hear from 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.360 the people who've accessed these drugs through these providers and 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.120 those who've worked for them. 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.800 If these people started these companies to deliberately sell these 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.119 weight loss drugs, that says there's a gap. That says 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.159 when people are going to the doctor and having this 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.680 conversation with their regular GP, they're not getting what they need. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.200 We'll answer all your questions and more on part two. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.400 Thank you so much for listening to this episode. If 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.040 it's raised any concerns for you, help is available twenty 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.760 four to seven through lifelined on thirteen eleven fourteen. For 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.080 eating disorder support, you can contact the Butterfly Foundation on 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.400 one eight hundred eighty hope. That's one eight hundred three 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.520 three four six seventy three. There are also some links 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.240 to resources in today's episode description. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.520 My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.280 Bunjelung Calcuttin woman from Gadighl Country. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.280 The Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.800 the lands of the Gadighl people and pays respect to 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.200 all Aboriginal and torrest Rate Island and nations. We pay 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.120 our respects to the first peoples of these countries, both 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.080 past and present.