1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's hottest movie of the summer unknowably salt Burn, 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and in particular hot a scene of the summer, What 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: a scene of the year right at the end. Then 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: I've tried to say, you know a few times now 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: about Barry Kyogan dancing at the end of Murder on 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: the dance floors. Obviously, whatever I was talking about, and 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: I've done this, it. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Was too much of a spoiler to say he's completely 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: nude in this epic dance scene. And the really exciting 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: news is that in the studio with us right now 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: is a woman called Polly, and Polly you were the 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: one who choreographed this epic dancing. 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Welcome, thank you, nice to be here. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: Let's just talk about that questions scene. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: You've worked with Remy Malik, you've worked with Austin Butler 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: and Elvis, so we're going to get to that stuff. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: But let's focus on this scene with Barry dancing completely nude. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: How does that idea come about? 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: When do you get involved, how much influence do you have, 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: do you work with the director? 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: Like, how does it all come about? 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: So, I mean on Saltman, Emerald Fennel, who's the director. 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: She was in the Crown, and I was the movement 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 5: coach on all of the all of the Crown serieses. 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 5: So I helped her when she was Kamilla Parker Bowls 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 5: in season three and four. 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: So you analyze how Camilla Parker Bowls move you really think, 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: and then you it's your job then to teach this 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: actress how to move exactly like that big time. 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like the idea. 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: That which just type of Camilla and Parker. 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: I've watched them all. Wow, I've watched them all. 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: Does their movement change as well over the years? And 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: then your wow? 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: I mean the Crown was like an amazing experience because 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 5: you get the gift of like, here here are some 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: amazing actors, can you go and make them be the person. 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: That we need them to be for this series. 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 5: So you know they've got dialect coaches and they've got 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: their directors. But you know, when you're an actor and 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: you get given can you play Princess Diana? 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Off you go. You have nothing. 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: You've got no training, nothing. 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: That prepares you necessarily for that. 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Unless they do it themselves right, unless they know learn 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: how to do impressions or whatever. 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: Else that's the thing. 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: Then it becomes impressions. Then you're watching things and going, oh, 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 5: well they do this and they do this, so you're 50 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 5: mimicking them within a certain situation. So I was brought 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: on to Saltburn to work with Barry and. 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: Jacob you're Jacob. 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jacob Australia and to work with them. 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, difficult job, you know. I worked with him, work 55 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: with both of them for about. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: Three four weeks, just those two, trying to work out 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: these two characters that basically live and come from different situations, 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: and trying to work out what the physicality is of 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: both of those people so that then we can blend 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 5: them together when Barry's characters starts taking over again. 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: We really don't want to give a lot away here. 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Some people haven't seen it. The tricky thing about that 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: film in particular, then, is the crux of the whole 64 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: thing is that somebody can be someone without being someone. 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: The physical changes that Barry goes through, it's so beautifully subtle, 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: but it is so clearly there. He really does physically 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: hold himself differently as the film goes on. 68 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so where the dance came from is the 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: idea that he steps into the space that Jacob's character 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 5: has very so he actually does a reverse in that 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: sequence of one of jacob scenes where he shows. 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: Him he shows in the room that's right, this is 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: my uncle's this, this is my family history in that way. 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 6: Wow. 75 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Yes, So he goes to the same space and it 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: owns it a. 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Big difference though Jacob clothed when he does a Barry 78 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: completely nerd. 79 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, let's talk about the penis in the room, 80 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: shall we? 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was so it was so 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: impactful because he was nude. Is there awkwardness around the nudity? 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: What was Barry like with the nuddy. 84 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: Because it wasn't written into the script this scene it 85 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: used to be. He just doesn't inverted walk around the 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: house the same way. And then gradually I'd been working 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: on another big physical piece that was going to end 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 5: the film, which is now on the cutting room floor 89 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 5: because we ended up sort of being taken during the 90 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: because because we were filming in a venue that we 91 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 5: were just sort of lived lived around. 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: So you all lived in the in the manner I didn't. 93 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 5: It wasn't special enough, but sort of close close by, 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: peering in. But a lot of the actors stayed. 95 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: In the backyard just a sort of dungeon. 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 5: But you know, like all you could think about was 97 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 5: what this was, and Emerald was like, I think maybe 98 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: that's a dance And then it started, you know a 99 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 5: little bit of a kind of to and for about 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: what music, And then suddenly it was Emerald's idea. Yeah, 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: and I think it was, you know, just suitably camp kick. 102 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: Of the time. 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: And there's obviously the lyrics obviously line that with how 104 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: everything sort of comes. 105 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is funny because it's the last thing I 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: thought about. 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Wow, I was just like, I was great, it just 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: gets It's a great song without thinking at the connotations 109 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: with her on the show. 110 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, she was absolute legend. Was a nice name drop. 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 6: Thanks. 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: You know, I just like Polly's coming here, you big ones. 113 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: But I thought I'd just fight background and just one 114 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: for us there, don't you worry. How did you get 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Barry to dance mood through the house? 116 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 5: He was always going to be walking naked through the 117 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: house as a kind of you know the influence. 118 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Ultimate show of dominance. 119 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: Yeah naked. 120 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's and he's and are we ever truly ourselves? 121 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: Right? 122 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: Yeah? 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 124 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 125 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: We also heard a rumor it was actually Tom who 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: heard a rumor that apparently the first time Barry was 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: doing the dance, he was too good at dancing and 128 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: you had to bring him down a few pigs. 129 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: That's a I. 130 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: Don't that wouldn't be and I appreciate it. I'm here 131 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: to slam that down. 132 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 5: No, I think he I mean there was a version 133 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 5: where I I over choreographed it. 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: I made it like it's going to be a show. 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, you know, trying to get him technically. 136 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 137 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, But that was because we didn't really know what 138 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: it was. 139 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: So actually, so it comes back to because I'd done 140 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 5: the character work with both of these characters, I was like, 141 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: something isn't right about this. So I went back through 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: rushes and went back through scenes and Barry. Actually where 143 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: it sort of started lifting was where I started placing 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 5: in movements that Jacob had already done in other scenes. 145 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: So there's lots of things like when he, you know, 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 5: takes some drugs and when he arches himself backwards, Jacob 147 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: does that in another scene. So it is kind of like, 148 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 5: to me, there's all these like subtle sort of easter 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: eggs back to the film, to the Untrained Diet, it 150 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 5: doesn't look necessarily like that, but it means that it's 151 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: root in the truth of the story rather than a 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 5: dance that's been on top of right on top. 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: It's not a cherry on the cake. It's really like 154 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: a sort of mirroring back through everything that he's been 155 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: through to get to that point. So telling a story 156 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: again through the dance. 157 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: And then you know, like when when we don't when 158 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: we don't know what. 159 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: To say, we gesture that's so true. 160 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: So they're not saying anything. 161 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: They don't need to say anything, or he doesn't need 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: to say anything, So we have to make sure that 163 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: the movements for the audience tells something that you wouldn't 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: get if they were talking. 165 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: And so much of it, so much of it is subliminal, 166 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: like obviously you know what he said before. You know 167 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the reason the dance is gone. Well, one of the 168 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: reasons the dances went viral was because he's naked, but 169 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: like sore was he so much in the messaging in 170 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: the in that moment of triumph that words or or 171 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: or acting aren't going to be able to convey that 172 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: a dance. You know, he's going to get across. And 173 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: there's so much that you can express, you just can't 174 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: do through words right. 175 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, exactly. 176 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 5: You look at the films that have big dance numbers, 177 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 5: and I don't know if you've seen another round to where. 178 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: It finishes danced Michelson is because he's a professional. 179 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: He was a professional ballet dancer and gymnast. 180 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: Wow YEA is. 181 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: A brilliant movie if anyone hasn't seen it. 182 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: But yes, that final scene is because because he he 183 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: teases it through the entire film as well. 184 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 5: Exactly, And that's why it works, because it's not just 185 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 5: a dance that's put on the end. And I think 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: that's where I come in as a as a movement coach. 187 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 5: Can you Sometimes I get credited as movement coach. Sometimes 188 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: I'm a choreographer. So it works the best for me 189 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 5: when I'm working with the actors, so that you're not 190 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: getting an actor going, I've got to be good at 191 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: dancing because I'm doing a dance, which is. 192 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes what you get. Yeah, you're actually going, this is 193 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: how the character. 194 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: You're not a good dancer, you can't just yeah, another one, 195 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: big one for me, bring it on. Obviously, a couple 196 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: of big dance numbers in that one, huge doubt there's 197 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: something that just can't be put into. 198 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: The words no responsible. 199 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: Thanks again? Probably then here on will and what he you? 200 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: So the last week you and I have been debating 201 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: could we pinch a point of a professional tennis player? 202 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we're all watching the AO at the moment. I'm 203 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: sure you guys have been running the same hypothetical around 204 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: as well. Or maybe you're not. Maybe you're all of 205 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: you just saying absolutely not. Boys. Look, here are the 206 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: parameters that we that we we think we've decided on 207 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: best of seven, which is which is a tiebreaker. It's 208 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: going to be American doubles as well, so this is 209 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: highly skewed in our favor. It will be you and 210 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: me verse a professional we haven't. I think we should 211 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: be allowed to distract them occasionally, That's what I'm getting to. 212 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all part of the game. I 213 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: would say, it's a mind game, you know. 214 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: Right, Sure, what we we haven't got a player yet, though. 215 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: We asked Pat Rafta yesterday. Yeah, he very quickly said 216 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: he couldn't be bothered. 217 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: And he gave us far too easily. Let's be honest, 218 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: he actually said it. He actually said it while we 219 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: were talking to it. We had to sort of edit 220 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: that out because you know, he just put it on 221 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: the air. But yeah, we've got the number for Mark philippursis. Yeah, 222 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the scud. We've actually the producers have called him. We're 223 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: a bit scared. I mean obviously he's you know, he 224 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: in timid Edding, got very attractive, beautiful looking man. Are 225 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: you ready to go? You're ready to asking me? How 226 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: are you feeling? 227 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: No, I'm nervous. But are you going to go? Are 228 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: you going to call him Pooh? Or are you going 229 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: to call him Mark? 230 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: I think I might god with the scud? I just 231 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: avoid that. Okay, what are you going to go with? 232 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 8: Well? 233 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: I was just I wanted to go with Pooh, but 234 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: I don't. 235 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if he likes that. Anyway, he's on 236 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: the line, we've better not keep him waiting, he joins us. 237 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 6: Now, guys, how you doing? Thanks for having me? 238 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: First off, Mark, we wouldn't usually just cold call people. 239 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: Pat Rafter actually gave us your number. I hope that's okay. 240 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 6: Oh, well, it's good to know. That way I can 241 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 6: give his number out next time. 242 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: Nice and I for a night. 243 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Now, Mark, I hate to cut straight down to business here. 244 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: But Will and I have been watching the Australian Open 245 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: and we are both of the belief that if we 246 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: were to play one of the professionals currently in the 247 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Australian Open, we definitely wouldn't beat them, right, We would 248 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: get wiped off the court, there's no doubt about that. 249 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: But we both believe that we would win at least 250 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: one point. Okay, Firstly, do you agree with that view? 251 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't seen you guys hit a ball, 252 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 6: but it's possible. It's just one point, why not? 253 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 254 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you like when you were in your prime, 255 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: for for example, Mark like to tell you the ability 256 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: that I have, Like I was in the ten a's, 257 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: but I haven't. I haven't picked up a racket for 258 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: about ten years. That's that's the quality we're talking here. 259 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: Would I have taken a point off you? 260 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: Like I said, one point? 261 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 7: It could have been a double fold. 262 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 6: You could hit a left court by accident, unlike you know, 263 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 6: you never know it, but it's a point. It's definitely possible, okay, 264 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 6: without a doubt. 265 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: So and at a best of seven though, So let's 266 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: say that we were to play you in a tiebreaker 267 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: right now? Do you think we could pinch a point 268 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: off here. 269 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 6: I'm going to try very hard for it not to. 270 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: Happen, you know, That's what I want. 271 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 6: You know, I'm not going to make it easier. You're 272 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: going to have to earn that point. 273 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: Okay, how much are you still playing a fair bit? 274 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Mark? 275 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: Not that much. I mean we're playing three matches here 276 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 6: at the open events. But I do play some events 277 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 6: during the year. Okay, but I think I've played longer, 278 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 6: you know, enough during the year to hopefully not give 279 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: you guys a point. 280 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: You've been coaching, You've been coaching a lot as well. 281 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Like I see you're coaching a lot as well. Mark, 282 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: You're hitting a lot of balls. You're still hitting a 283 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of balls sometimes. 284 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I'm when I'm coaching and playing with the player, 285 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 6: I am warming him up sometimes and hitting with them. So, 286 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 6: you know, trying to look I'd like to try and 287 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 6: kip fits a good I'm not feeling terrible on the court. 288 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I remember your serve quite well. Mark. I still 289 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: occasionally have we dreams about that serve. 290 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: Have you have you have you. 291 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: Have you had the gun at all over the past 292 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: couple of years on your serve and I. 293 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 6: Just got two hundred today, So it's not knowing knew 294 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 6: what it used to be, but wow, it's the rhythm 295 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 6: is dead, but wow, I'm not jumping into it and 296 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 6: accelerating like I used to. But I can still hit it. 297 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: Bluddy all right. 298 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so final question before we look. We can touch 299 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: base with your management about a time to sort this out, 300 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: hopefully later in the week. A best of seven between 301 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: you and us. But are we allowed any sort of 302 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: like distractions to try and win here, because I think 303 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: you still have serving it two hundred k's an hour, 304 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: still hitting the moss in the world. 305 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: You're up for that? 306 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely? And are you guys up for me that 307 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 6: I'm allowed to hit you with the service? 308 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 7: That's pretty well. 309 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Sure, mate. You do whatever you need to do. I'll 310 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: tell you what if we if you if you if 311 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: you wipe us, if you beat us seven love in 312 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: a tiebreaker, I'm happy for Woody and Ied both. Kneel 313 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: down on the tee of the service court and you 314 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: can serve it us as fast as you like. 315 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: I mean, I was going to do that anyway during 316 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 6: the point. 317 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: On stuff, mate, great to hear your voice, thank you, 318 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: So all right, well we'll speak certain mat and looking. 319 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 7: Forward to it. 320 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, and he's in Wow. Mark the Philip per says, 321 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: what a. 322 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: Guy two hundred? No, not quite serving in that cook anymore. 323 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: But I did do two hundred today? What totally machine? 324 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: A machine. Yeah, we're gonna have to count with him distraction. 325 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: He was serious, by the way. 326 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: I think he realizes that he has the pressure of 327 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: all professional on his shop. 328 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: He loses, He's not gonna he's not going to hold 329 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: back at all. And that's what we wanted. This is 330 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: the scenario. Can we pinch a point off a professional 331 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: tennis player? We want him going all out. 332 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Really don't want to take a poo rocket in the 333 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: ars though, I really, I mean that sentence sounds bad, 334 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. 335 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: Tomorrow, I think we didn't forget how we're going to 336 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: distract this guy over the course of seven points. What 337 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: are we going to do? Is he going to be blindfolded? 338 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: Think we can blindfold him. Let's let's drop his arm, 339 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: let's take this down. 340 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: And then and then I think obviously we're gonna have 341 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: figure out where we're playing. Where we're gonna play. 342 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: Park we got to go. Yes, wow, we got it. 343 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: Okay, people a getting knocks out ornament on. 344 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: There are open courts now, Okay, we're in the fourth round, baby, quarterfinals, quarterfinals, Baby, 345 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: there'll be a. 346 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Free court now there might be Yeah, all right, let's 347 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: do right with this. Can we pitch a point off 348 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the poop? Sounds pretty good? At Melbourne Park, he's in, 349 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: We're in. Stay tuned tomorrow the next step in our quest. 350 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Alex Demanor went viral yesterday. So he pade a massive 351 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: five setter, great effort, but it was this moment after 352 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: his game where he lost the five setter. He's on 353 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: the exercise bike, he's clearly at breaking point, and his 354 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: partner goes over him and gives him a massive hug. 355 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: It's awesome, and there's this really beautiful. 356 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Moment where he breaks down. 357 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: And I was saying on air yesterday, I was like 358 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: it like in that context, it's a shame that is 359 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: a man. He can't walk into the dressing room. I mean, 360 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I know there are cameras on him, and yes he 361 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: actually could. I mean, there is obviously a possibility of 362 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: him to go and do this, but stigma suggests that 363 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: he can't walk into the dressing room and go, hey, 364 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: can I have a hug? I've just had five, so 365 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: that I've been defeated. My goal for the last year's 366 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: just been crushed. Obviously you're going to be pretty devastated. 367 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: But the stigma around who he needs to be in 368 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: that moment says no, no, no, Get on the exercise bike, 369 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: keep a stiff upper lip and just carry on. 370 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: Be stoic, you know, talk about how you learned from 371 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: the match and how you're going to be stuck because 372 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: of a positive. 373 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Straight and I've now on the bike, and then go 374 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: and face the press, whereas we all know, all you 375 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do is go in there and say can 376 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I have a hug? And luckily, you know, as so 377 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: many women do for so many of the partners all 378 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: over the world, she was like, hey, that block needs 379 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: a hug, and again that was really lovely. But I 380 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: think the bit that I struck on because I could 381 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: empathize with this. I had him recently where I had 382 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: to ask my partner for a hug, and it's the 383 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: first time I've really ever done that, which is like 384 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: I've been with Sam for eight years, I've never asked 385 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: her for affection like that, and it was revolutionary in 386 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: terms of the language of our relationship, in terms for her, 387 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: she wasn't trying to just suss me out what I needed. 388 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I meant that I wasn't doing my usual thing to 389 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: get affection, which is just sulking, and it just like 390 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: it was just brilliant in terms of our chemistry and 391 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: in terms of moving forward. Now I've got that as 392 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: something that I can ask for, which again seems crazy, 393 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: but like if you're a guy driving home, or if 394 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with the guy, if you live 395 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: with the guy, or if you have a guy who 396 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: is your son, I bet you they've never asked you 397 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: for a hug. I bet you. I'm talking to ninety 398 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: five percent of the audience right now. 399 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: And to flip it, women ask for hugs all the 400 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: last night. My partner didn't hear the bit we did yesterday, 401 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: but last night she asked for a hug. She was 402 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: feeling sick, She worked all day's feeling sick, and it 403 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: was so normal and natural for her to ask for 404 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: a hug, and it wasn't a weird thing or like. 405 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 4: A different night for us, which is she's so good 406 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: at going. 407 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm a bit fragile right now, yep, and a hug 408 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: is really going to help me. It's just such a 409 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: shame that it doesn't go the other way. 410 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: That's right, And how nice for you as well, Like 411 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: when you're in the shoes of the person who's getting 412 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: asked to give the hug, You're like, I give you 413 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: a bloody hugger. I love this shit at you like, 414 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: get in here. 415 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's so nice helping your partner. 416 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: Exactly what to do. Exactly as I said before on 417 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the show, give your friends the cape, like, let them 418 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: be your hero. It's a lovely feeling when you get 419 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: to look after someone. So we had this premise yesterday 420 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: and essentially got a whole guys, a whole bunch of 421 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: guys to call in who had never asked for a 422 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: hug before. And I just said, who are you going 423 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: home to? They told me who they were going home to, 424 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: and then they called them and they asked them for 425 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: a hug. Now, one of these people was a guy 426 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: called James. 427 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 6: Hello home, mom, Yo, I'm. 428 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 7: Going to ask you something. What when I come home 429 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 7: he's there alright? If to be giving me a hug please? 430 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 8: Of course, it's all right to give you a hug. 431 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 8: Always give you a. 432 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 7: Hug, honey. Oh thanks Mom. Why I just want to 433 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 7: make sure when I come home, you're going to give 434 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 7: me a hug. 435 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 8: Of course, my booty. 436 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: I always give you a hug. 437 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 4: You Now. 438 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 8: I love big hugs. 439 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: Mom, Go work, James, how do he feel? 440 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 4: It felt good? 441 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 7: Because I'm not a very affectionate person, so it was. 442 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: Really good feelings, lovely awesome. I love that we put 443 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: the gladiating music behind that as well, but look, it 444 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: was a really really really lovely moment. Step one. Now, 445 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to cards on the table here because I've 446 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: heard this and I need to tell you that I've 447 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: heard it, because I can't tell you enough how much 448 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: I want everybody else to hear this. James called us 449 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: after the show. We're going to speak to him today 450 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: to find out how the hug went. But something happened 451 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: and he called us immediately afterwards and was like, I 452 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: need to speak to you guys about what happened post hug. Hello, James, 453 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: it's Wheel and Muddy. 454 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 7: How are we boys? 455 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: Very very well? Mate? Last night you went home, you 456 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: asked your mum for a hug. 457 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: Went well, on the phone call seemed to go very well. 458 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well she was pumped about the idea, and I 459 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to know how it went down, your end, mate, 460 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: did what actually happened? 461 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 7: I walked in the door and she's just kind of 462 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 7: I think she was waiting for me, ok, and she 463 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 7: was just standing near the bloody find doorways to get home, 464 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 7: you know, and we just didn't even say nothing, straight 465 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 7: into a massive hug. Got a little bit emotional, you know, 466 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: because like you know, it was a bit of a 467 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 7: special moment, and my mom just had you know, we've 468 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 7: had a really nice hug. And then you know, it 469 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 7: led to a bit of a conversation with me and 470 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 7: my mum and opened up a little bit more to 471 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: each other because like, I've got a great relationship with mom, 472 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 7: don't get me wrong, but you know, we're like nothing 473 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 7: like we're not like super super tight, but I tell everything. 474 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 7: But that worthing was a bit of an opening for 475 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 7: us to sort of take our mother's son relationship to 476 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 7: the kind of next level. 477 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh, James, So so yeah, it was a real amazing moment. 478 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 7: Thank you boys. I wouldn't with doubt you it wouldn't 479 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 7: have kind of happened. I'm really grateful. 480 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: How does it make you feel? 481 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 482 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 7: Incredible? I don't think I felt warm and happy inside. 483 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 7: I don't even know if this kind of felt that 484 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 7: kind of way. When I hug my mom, you know, 485 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 7: that's a special kind of love I'll never be able 486 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 7: to get to anyone else. 487 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: Do you reckon? 488 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: Do you reckon you're more willing to ask for hugs 489 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: now in the James. 490 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 7: Oh, ye, one hundred percent. I think seeing what it 491 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 7: meant to my mom, you know, I want to make 492 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 7: sure she shine feels like that as much aff cancer. 493 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 7: Now now I want to get home from work. I 494 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 7: feel like sometimes you know a bit of a long day, 495 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 7: you just want to go to a shower, eat, go 496 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 7: to bed. But now I'm going to try it and 497 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 7: make a bit more of that conscious effort there, you know, 498 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 7: give my mama hugging, see how her day was, and 499 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 7: blood stuff. 500 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: James, thanks for the honesty and thanks for sharing. I 501 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: can't tell you how amazing that is to hear and 502 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: how much wonderful work you've done in sharing that with 503 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other guys over the radio. Because 504 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: I reckon, there are a whole bunch of guys listening 505 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: who are hearing that and going, shit, I'm going to 506 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: go and ask my mom for a hug now. And 507 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: the really powerful thing about it, James, is that is 508 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: that you asked her, like you invited her in to 509 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: give you affection. And this is why we were talking 510 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: about it yesterday, is it's really hard to make yourself 511 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: vulnerable and say I need love. I'm not strong enough 512 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: to you know, effectively. What he's saying is I need 513 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: you to help me out. And I think everyone gets 514 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: scared about getting in everyone else's spaces, but it's almost 515 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: like the greatest form of love you can give someone 516 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: else is by inviting them to love you. 517 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 7: You know, I don't really want to bother anyone when 518 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 7: you have a bad day, So now I feel like 519 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 7: if you know someone's bothering I have a crap date work. 520 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 7: You know, it's not really much you think about a 521 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 7: Hugh block it takes five seconds fill, but that's a 522 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: feeling that there's not much that comes close to it. 523 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 4: So good to my God. 524 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: It should be played on every single mental health charity, 525 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: male focused Jesus Christ. This is why what you're hitting 526 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: on right now, mate, is why suicide is the number 527 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: one killer of men under the age of sixty because 528 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: they can't realize what you're saying. And this is awesome. 529 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: Appreciated boys, I appreciate it more than you will. You'll 530 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 7: ever can ever tell you. It's amazing. 531 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Mate. If you heard that, and I've 532 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: got to say that triggered anything in you, call Lifeline 533 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: thirteen eleven fourteen. 534 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: Stick a card, pick a guard, pick a card, pick 535 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: a card, pick a card, pick a guard, pick a card, 536 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: couldn't believe your thoughts in our heat? Pick a card 537 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: and take a leap. 538 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Also, we pick a card from whats of one of 539 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: these provocative card sets, one of these card sets which 540 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: asks you a question pta people would never ask you 541 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: in conversation. I mean to say, you might have a 542 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: therapist who might ask you these questions, but they're really 543 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: good to sort of have a think about the card today. 544 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: In what way do you fear you could negatively impact 545 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: your children? 546 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 6: Now? 547 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Obviously we're coming off the back of school holidays, so 548 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of time with my daughter that 549 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't normally have with Max. And this question is 550 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: certainly one that keeps coming up and as I said 551 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: before the song, the scary thing about this question for 552 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: me is that I've realized more and more that it's coming. 553 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: It will. The thing that I think will hurt her 554 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: most comes from the most well intentioned place. 555 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a and you always have good intentions 556 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: as well, right, I'd like to think so. 557 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: I think there are some things which come from a 558 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: place of yeah, no, you're right. The intentions are always there, 559 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: but sometimes fear or control can take over, and you 560 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: might act in a way that you don't want to. 561 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: But I think in this instance, I'm talking quite quite 562 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: quite specifically about the fact that I sometimes fear that 563 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: caring for her, or loving her, or being too available 564 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: for her emotions will be the thing that will negatively 565 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: impact her the most. 566 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: Because she'll be needy or she won't be able to 567 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 4: do things alone. 568 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so, because I mean I'll 569 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: put my hand and say I'm the helicopter parent, like 570 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: I am big time the helicopter parent. I cannot watch 571 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: her fall down have anything like that. Whereas sam my partner, 572 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty sure if Meryl Streep wasn't available 573 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: to play Iron Lady Margaret thatcher a little while ago. 574 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Sam Sam would have played that role. And it's funny 575 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: because I had this moment the other day where I 576 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: was watching Max play and she fell over and as 577 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: a decent stack, like she really stacked it and she 578 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: hit the deck, and my heart broke because the worst 579 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: thing she said was she hit it. She goes okay, 580 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: like I'm okay, I'm fine, I'm okay, and I was like, wow, 581 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean you're not okay. Like it was this automated 582 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: thing that came out. And I think this has got 583 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: maybe the curse of the parent that's there less as well, 584 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: is if you're not around as much, you probably I 585 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a thing. I'm very broad 586 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: brush striking here and know much about parenting, but maybe 587 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: you feel like you need to compensate a little bit more, 588 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: so you try a little bit harder, you dig a 589 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: little bit deeper. And that's a beautiful thing for me 590 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: right now. But the thing but it means that I 591 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: get adoration back, and I think that maybe that's the 592 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: point that I need to start questioning it is am 593 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: I picking her up and helicopter parenting her because I 594 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: want to look after her and I don't want her 595 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: to hurt or am I doing it because I'm like 596 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: Jesus feels good when she gets around me, because she 597 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: knows that she can get more from me. No, she 598 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: plays me. I know, she plays me like a fiddle. 599 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Now she doesn't get it from Sam Schuck, I'm straight 600 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: to me and go, I know I can get it 601 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: from you. And again the question being could how is 602 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: it going to negative negatively impact your children. I look 603 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: at some people who have that relationship with their parents, 604 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: and I don't like it. I don't like the fact 605 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: that there's a parent that doesn't look into the essence 606 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: of the issue and try and discuss it or let 607 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: the kid figure it out by themselves and just band 608 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: aid it because they know they're going to get love 609 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: if they give the kid a solution. 610 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 9: Yeah. 611 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow, you've really analyzed this over the whole day. 612 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: Well, it's really hard. It's like that expression that you've 613 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: got to be cruel to be kind. I don't think 614 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: I really ever understood that properly until I had kids 615 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: where I'm like Angela, I had Max, where I'm like, oh, well, geez, 616 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe the really nice thing to do in this situation 617 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: is not to help her. 618 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: It's the flip for MEM and I. So Mimi is 619 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: the one who. 620 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: She's a helicopter. 621 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: She will yeah, and it's interesting. 622 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: So it's not the same like she's obviously with memmore 623 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: so it hasped and like I was arounder at times, 624 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: but I'm much more likely to go let her squawk. 625 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: She'll she'll figure it out or you know. And it's 626 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: not necessarily when she falls over and her herself. 627 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: It's more like when she's complaining time, I'm always like, 628 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: just leave her, she'll figure it out. But the one 629 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: for me, which has very recently started hitting me quite hard, 630 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: is when she goes to a playground or she's just 631 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: had a daycare as well. 632 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 4: I really really struggling. 633 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: And Mim is much better than me, but I really 634 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: struggle watching her around other kids. 635 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: And I have almost a. 636 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: Visceral reaction to that where I feel like I have 637 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: to somehow involve myself here to make sure that these 638 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: other kids think she's okay. 639 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: And like her. 640 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: And I'm so terrified when they're going to get older 641 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: that they're going to tease her or they're going to 642 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: give her a hard time because you're involved, and because 643 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: you weren't involved. 644 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: Because you weren't there, You're scared that you're not gonna 645 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: have a sort of out by herself. 646 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 4: And this is my dilemma. 647 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: And then again, I think that will negatively impact Remy 648 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: if I'm teaching her that you need to do whatever 649 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: you can and be whatever you need to. 650 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: Be to fit in, to fit in and make sure 651 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: these kids like you. 652 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a great trait to still 653 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: in someone very young, no instilling someone at. 654 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 8: All at all. 655 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a valuable lesson as well to 656 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, be nice to people and fit into a group. 657 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: That's that's that's human instinct. True, Yeah, but yeah, right, 658 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: there are obviously degrees of that where you're sacrificing who 659 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: you are as an individual in order to sort of 660 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: fit in with other people. 661 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: I get daycare. 662 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: I almost walked in and I wanted to say I 663 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: wanted to do a bit of a thing where I 664 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: was like, Remy, show them your trick. Like I was like, 665 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: and it was just like, you just have to leave 666 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: trick is she she does a backwards ah trick? And 667 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: I was just like, do that, kids will love you. 668 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: Come on, And Min was just like you have to 669 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: leave the day care. You've just got to get out, 670 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: you just got to get out of here. And then 671 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: when I was writing to work, I did five dry 672 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: like bock buys the daycare to watch her playing, and 673 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: like car on the. 674 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: Street would have been like who is the creep on 675 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: the bike? 676 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Right? 677 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 678 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I think you're definitely do before yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. 679 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to reiterate that you're doing need to back 680 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: off just for the other parents and the kids that 681 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: do at that day care. But I think it's interesting 682 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: for you and for me. As I said at the 683 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: very start of this, that all of this comes from 684 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: a place of care. All you want to do is 685 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: just hope what's best for them. But of course, if 686 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: you go on, if you know, if you're laid on 687 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: too thick. It's like that old expression in medicine, like 688 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: just because a little bit of something's good doesn't mean 689 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: a lot of something's better. 690 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: Oh that's a great expression. I've never heard that. 691 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. You should use that when you're 692 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: thinking about going past the daycare for the fifth time 693 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: and you want to talk to me about a very 694 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: naughty boy. 695 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: I don't think he's a naughty boy. I think he's 696 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: a sexy boy. 697 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: Sexy naughty, you know, I mean like naughty in a 698 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: sexy way. 699 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: I guess that's why we think he sexy, because he 700 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: is a naughty boy. Yes, we're talking about Christian Gray. 701 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't know the fifty Shades of 702 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Gray movies or books, I mean, haven't listened to a 703 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: bit of this. So Jamie Dornon plays Christian Gray. I mean, 704 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: and have it listened to some of these lines? 705 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Do you not? Just your mind? 706 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 9: Keep? Yeah? 707 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: I could really hear what he said there, but your mind? Okay, 708 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: you're going to go to the next one. 709 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: What are your safe words? 710 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: Red and yellow? 711 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Remember? 712 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 4: Thus you'll need them later? 713 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: My anales for sitting in the office watching softcore porn before? 714 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I sent her oncasting stuff. 715 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Analy she had to watch all three films through the 716 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: whole movie? Is that what's going on? 717 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: Trilogy? She's hit the trilog at your head mate? 718 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: What was going on? There? Was sickening stuff. You've got 719 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: something to say for yourself? What's you have a lot 720 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: to say? 721 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: But I'm not safe for work? 722 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? What are your safe words? My god? 723 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 9: More? 724 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 4: One more bit? 725 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Of all, I don't know whether to worship at your 726 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: feet or spank you. Anyway, I don't want to. I 727 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: don't know whether to worship at your feet. 728 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Or spank you. 729 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean my worship at your feet? 730 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: I think he just wants to prostrate himself in front 731 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: of her. You know, he thinks of her some different. 732 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: Things to do, well, worship at your feet or spank you. 733 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: Surely you're taking this banking there, it gets a bit weird. 734 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what happened to about a bow. 735 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Down in front of you or spankisually you're taking that bank. 736 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: I think he's just naughty and sexy and he says 737 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 2: what he wants anyway. Jamie Dornan is the guy who 738 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: plays Christian Great and recently he was on a trip 739 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: in Portugal and quite seriously he almost died, Like he 740 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: came very very close to dying because he had a 741 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: run in with toxic caterpillars. So he's just out there 742 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: off the beaten track, you know, doing his thing, getting 743 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: off the grid. 744 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: Jamie Dorner, big. 745 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: Celebrity and unfortunately he had to be rushed to hospital 746 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: because he lily just brushed past a toxic that was 747 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: that poisonous which was giving him heart attack symptoms? 748 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 749 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: And then so paramedics luckily were able to find him 750 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: in the jungles of Portugal get him to hospital, but 751 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: came very very. 752 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah you. 753 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: Nature's beautiful nature of Portugal. You can just imagine infrustrating himself. 754 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: He has survived, but he came close to die. You 755 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: can just imagine the headline and the poor guy. If 756 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Jamie Dornan did die, we would always remember that he 757 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: was killed by caterpillars. 758 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: It's true. 759 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: Not a great way to go, pretty embarrassing way to go. 760 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, hectic life like because if you had to put 761 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: two punctuation points on his life, he was Christian Gray, 762 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: had the Red Room, and then he yeah, died from 763 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean. 764 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: Killed by. 765 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: Embarrassing because I'm sure lots of other wonderful things apart 766 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: from himself. 767 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: He's in The Tourist. Actually he's good in The Tourist. 768 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: Season two is almost out. Understand hot shell actually watch 769 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: that one. But I want to ask on thirteen five, 770 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: have you ruined that? 771 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: Can you? Can you relate you have? Now it was 772 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: good and now we're bogged down. I want to ask 773 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: on thirteen one O six five. Have you been like. 774 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: Jamie Dornan, has there been a really embarrassing time that 775 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: you almost died? 776 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: Ah? You were like, wow, this is this is going 777 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: to take me out, and it's awful because everyone's going 778 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: to remember the fact that I locked myself in a 779 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: freezer exactly right. 780 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: Okay, this happens to me a lot. I've got a 781 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: couple of examples. 782 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I once thought a shark was gonna eat me. 783 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: I was like, pretty much my life was running through my. 784 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: Head for that moment. And then on the a helicopter. 785 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't a helicopter, it was a fish shaved balloon, 786 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: but I thought was the shadows. 787 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Also alicopter as well, which you thought the shadow. 788 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot of shapes in the water. I thought 789 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: multiple sharks were going to kill me. I also had 790 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: a dorido wedged. 791 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: In my throat. 792 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: One I remember that you go to hospital. 793 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: Would have been death by dorito, which is pretty bad. 794 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: So again, happens to Pimple, which you thought was his 795 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: final absis, Yes, we would have been. 796 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: Death by pimple, death by pimple. 797 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: Also, I was chased by what I thought was a 798 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: gang in Uruguay, and I was. 799 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 4: Like, definitely gonna die here. They're going to murder me. 800 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: That would as twelve year old kids just playing in 801 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 4: the street. 802 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought six week week the 803 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: lists as long as it is broad for you woulds 804 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: everyone else that didn't want to six five embarrassing times 805 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: you thought you were going to die? Where do you 806 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: think of yourself? G was if I die now? This 807 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: is so utterly embarrassing. 808 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: We've got Lee here, Lee. This happened when you were 809 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: in sixth grade. 810 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 9: Yes, so I caused myself on a pile of apricots. God, 811 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 9: a really bad case the diarrhea, which caused my vow 812 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 9: to perforate. Oh wow, I got rots ninas. But the 813 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 9: kicker of sorry, and it really is an interesting one 814 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 9: because we were living in Broken Hill and the police 815 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 9: pm O. 816 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: We missed that bit. We we missed it. You said 817 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: you were living in Broken Hill on what the Yeah? 818 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 9: So the kicker was the police tm O. It does 819 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 9: all tops did my surgery. 820 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 1: The kicker I didn't quite land for is she going 821 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: for the police? 822 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 7: T m O? 823 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Poops? Did you take that? What's a t m O 824 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: A t m O L did you take that. What 825 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: do you mean by a p m. 826 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: O or going out on almost herself to death? I mean, 827 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't get better than that. 828 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 5: When she was in sixth grade, absolutely smashed a bag 829 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 5: of airbricots, the diarrhea and then her bow popped. 830 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the kicker, the TMO in Broken Hill, What 831 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: did you want? You didn't he? 832 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: I mean, nearly pupping yourself to death? 833 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: It really is good. It really was unbelievable. 834 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: She really, especially when her phone dropped out a little 835 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: bit and then she tried to go back and let's go, 836 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: we go to training. Is going to bring us back 837 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: to Katrina? Come on on, sorry, I almost a stumbling 838 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: on me words there. You had an embarrassing situation where 839 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: you almost died. 840 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. So we were leaving the Penrish Show with my 841 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 8: kids many years ago, and we were at the Penrith 842 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 8: Plaza and I nicked one of the kids lollies out 843 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 8: of their Lolli bags and it got stuck in my 844 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 8: throat and we were outside the fruit shop and everything 845 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 8: just started going for buzzy and black, and I was 846 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 8: seeing stars and I was just trying to breathe, and 847 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 8: I could just feel myself like starting to go black, 848 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 8: and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I'm going to die here, 849 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 8: and my two kids see me on the floor, and 850 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 8: it was like right at the end when someone realized 851 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 8: and slapped me right on the back. But I was 852 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 8: halfway on the ground, like passing out. 853 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 6: Wow. 854 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 8: And I was just because, like my wife was flashing 855 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 8: before my. 856 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 6: Eyes, a plaidy lollly, a bloody loly. 857 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: You're really ripping into it, will you like a lollipop 858 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 2: want to stick down in the back. 859 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: Of the throat. 860 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 8: I was probably trying to shove it in there before 861 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 8: the kids realized they nicked it out of their showbag. 862 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 863 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just want to shove them down, don't you. 864 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 4: What was your kid doing? Well, what were your kids 865 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: doing while you're you. 866 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 8: Know, shoveling in there in showbags? I really can't. All 867 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 8: I can remember is just almost dying, just the stars 868 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 8: and halfway on the ground, going oh my gosh, I 869 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 8: couldn't I couldn't breathe, I couldn't take that breath in. 870 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 8: And then you know you're panicking. 871 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: You doff your kids food. You do scoff your kids food, 872 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: like to just get it down before they before they 873 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: crack it. 874 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 4: You can't understand see it, you can't let them see it. 875 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah no you can't. And the kicker there 876 00:37:53,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: is not here on every one who dads figured