WEBVTT - The Questions You Need To Ask When Choosing Housemates 🏠

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcasts, Hay Rooms, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>On the podcast. Do you reckon? That's nice when you

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<v Speaker 2>just have a chill kind of vibe?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what it's like as a listener.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's always easy to listen to a chill

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<v Speaker 1>vibe over a like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know about you, but I would if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's going right, my brain goes like in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>Following up, No, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 3>I think of my favorite podcast, How Long Gone, And

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<v Speaker 3>it's just two guys chatting m and they never do

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<v Speaker 3>too much. They just have a lot of opinions, always

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<v Speaker 3>something to say. But you know, I find some podcasters

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<v Speaker 3>and no shade, they overcompensate their lack of interesting thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>who are just speaking really animatedly, loudly or like aggressively.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, certainly not myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do you speak animatedly, loudly or aggressively?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like that's You're not the judge, you're

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<v Speaker 2>too close to the source. Oh okay, Well, but we

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<v Speaker 2>do need to think about self perceptions because today's episode

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<v Speaker 2>is mainly about housemates. What you need to ask a

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<v Speaker 2>housemate before you move in with them, personally, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a renegade master this next house, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be going in chill vibes and say in our vibes

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<v Speaker 2>because I will be leaving soon anyway. If that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make sense, listen and it will. It's such a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>do in this podcast. You know, I listen to it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you listen to it back?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Are you why to just hear how it sounds?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's I think it's similar to watching your

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram story back from the perspective of.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who hasn't posted it. You're like, this is entertaining. Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it back with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm always looking at my story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the equivalent of smelling your hearts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, enough chatter, let's go. And I love being medium sized.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a medium sized woman. My heart is one sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's medium sized.

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<v Speaker 1>It's average.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah medium yi yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>To averages, medium is average medium or maybe not, maybe not,

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<v Speaker 2>because medium doesn't have to be average.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Medium just in the middle of the smallest and

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're talking hot, that's probably yeah, we're talking hit

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<v Speaker 2>above average of medium for women.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm above average and something that sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be is a little And So I was

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<v Speaker 2>on Reddit and this woman was asking questions on how

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<v Speaker 2>to act small and cute. I'm going to read out

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<v Speaker 2>her question and we're going to try and give her

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<v Speaker 2>some tips. The title is how to act soft, slash

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<v Speaker 2>cute as a tall woman.

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<v Speaker 1>With a deep voice.

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<v Speaker 2>So already it's hitting some of our demographics, say baritone,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I don't think. I don't think we necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have shrill voices, which I think is often associated with

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<v Speaker 2>higher voices.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go deep. I don't think they are deep.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read you this just to clarify. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing this to please one guy in particular. But

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<v Speaker 2>soft and cute it's the type of attractive I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and ideally i'd like to attract someone protective

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<v Speaker 2>and manly. I have trauma from middle and high school

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<v Speaker 2>bullying over being the tall, manly black girl with a

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<v Speaker 2>deep voice. Also, I was admittedly big. Becoming skinny helped

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and that sucks. I'm so deeply uncomfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>that image. And the truth is I'm weak and emotional

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<v Speaker 2>and I want it to show I can tell someone

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<v Speaker 2>off if I'm in danger or disrespected, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about being seen as soft cute by people

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<v Speaker 2>in general. First of all, do you think it's possible

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<v Speaker 2>without being short and naturally cutesy? So many women get

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<v Speaker 2>off that cutie pie vibe effortlessly. But when I'm my

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<v Speaker 2>normal self, I'm only being referred to as dominatrix mommy queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Why for cursing, wearing keels, or being assertive, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a black woman, a dominant Yes, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Second, I write this.

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<v Speaker 2>When I found this, I just read the title and

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<v Speaker 2>then she started telling this. Second of all, if I

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<v Speaker 2>have to put on a show, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Good posture is a natural for me. I'm working hard

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<v Speaker 2>on not cursing. I think it helps. I like to

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<v Speaker 2>wear pink and dresses and look feminine, but heels are

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<v Speaker 2>a no no. I want to avoid being taken as dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to sound like Miley Cyrus. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be anyway, if I no Miley, shame, We've

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<v Speaker 2>shamed nowhere Cyrus enough on.

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<v Speaker 1>This, there's no WI Why are you we?

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<v Speaker 2>I did someone know a research, and I really like her,

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<v Speaker 2>so take it back. I'm glad. Do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>will help if I speak quietly? Or is it just

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<v Speaker 2>annoying and it comes off as being insecure. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>tired of being attractive only as a strong woman. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what to do, yaches.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a no comment for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Acting small and cute is just that acting small and cute.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's nothing you can really do to change the

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<v Speaker 3>general perception if it's going to require performance, if you

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<v Speaker 3>to even get there, Like, in order to act small

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<v Speaker 3>and cute, you'd need to have a physical social interaction

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<v Speaker 3>with everyone for them to see you as small and cute,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's not what you want. You want to be

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<v Speaker 3>just perceived as small and cute generally.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think it's not possible for her because the

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<v Speaker 2>only way she be seen as small and cute is

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<v Speaker 2>if she puts effort in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be a caricature of performance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, act small and cute, start wearing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pink cardigans, pearls, speaking in a high pitch, real voice,

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<v Speaker 3>fall over a couple times when you're walking down the

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<v Speaker 3>grocery store aisle, like it would definitely work, Like at

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<v Speaker 3>what costs?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a way to be I think

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<v Speaker 2>her issue is that she wants to attract the right people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like she's not attracting the right person.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she need a change who she wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Or does she need a change full stop?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is about self perception. So like, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>grass is green and vibe, we all get it, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you assume that the contrast to what you have would

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<v Speaker 3>be better for your circumstance because your current circumstance is

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<v Speaker 3>not working. But then, you know we've spoken about before,

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<v Speaker 3>like the women who are getting their voices deepened because

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<v Speaker 3>it's so high pitched not being taken seriously, and the

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<v Speaker 3>amounts of women getting boob jobs because they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be perceived as boyish. It's like the same issue

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<v Speaker 3>on either side. I don't think it goes away, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do think working on self perception also works as well,

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<v Speaker 3>because internalizing that small and cute is inherently feminine because

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<v Speaker 3>it is socialized that way. Is the issue, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing for that to be the general consensus, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's another thing for you to think that and believe.

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<v Speaker 2>That and you think you can telk yourself into feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, because, for example, I remember when I started

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<v Speaker 3>doing stuff in media, a lot of the rhetoric was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you how are you so confident being plus sized?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I didn't even really know that

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the phrase was before I came into media.

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<v Speaker 1>You people said this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's in my head, you know, And then I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking, like, I was raised by a Liz. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about your parents, but my parents geed me up,

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<v Speaker 3>made me feel so special, so hot, so pretty, so smart.

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<v Speaker 3>So I literally can't untangle from the way that I

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<v Speaker 3>was like brainwashed to be thinking that I was special,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty cute, and smart in the same way that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure it's hard for everybody else to brainwash themselves into

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<v Speaker 3>thinking or not recognizing that beauty standards are real, that

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<v Speaker 3>they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess the.

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<v Speaker 3>First step is to interrogate who made you feel certain

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<v Speaker 3>things about the world, and is the way that person

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<v Speaker 3>sees the world more important than the way you want

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<v Speaker 3>to see the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a world where you can be who you

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<v Speaker 3>are as you look and still be perceived by yourself

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<v Speaker 3>as delicate and.

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<v Speaker 2>So cut, small and cute. It's great advice. I'll send

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<v Speaker 2>it on flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been too long since we've had a bit of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't call it a moral dilemma. It's just an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting question to unpack and uncover a bit more about

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<v Speaker 3>you and hopefully learn a little bit more about me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've seen enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen what I needed to see. Question for you,

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<v Speaker 3>If you could choose to never have to sleep, breathe,

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<v Speaker 3>or eat and still stay lies, what which would you choose?

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<v Speaker 1>Never to do breeze, sleep what?

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<v Speaker 2>I love to sleep and I love to eat. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to give either of those up. WHOA what

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<v Speaker 2>about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I would?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say eating because I really enjoy eating, but

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<v Speaker 3>I hate that it's tied to living, and I hate

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<v Speaker 3>all the health implications with it, Like you can't just

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<v Speaker 3>have it little snack to yourself and do enjoyment. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>don't eat that high cholesterol. Don't eat that, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get the itis. Don't eat that, you'll get really tired.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't eat that it's really bad for you. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you just need to eat something, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think what's also really bad for me is

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<v Speaker 3>I get food fixations, so I'm not even enjoying the

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<v Speaker 3>things I'm eating. I'm just created a habit in my

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<v Speaker 3>brain that's like, we're eating this, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you get food fixation?

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say I was raised the pickI eater,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just grew up being a pickI eater, So

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<v Speaker 3>at one point it was necessary for me to pick

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<v Speaker 3>a food and eat it because I wasn't gonna eat

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<v Speaker 3>anything else. So the habit came from being young and

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<v Speaker 3>feeling being like I only like egg whites this time,

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<v Speaker 3>I only like egg yolk. I only like this. Mom's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well you just need to eat something, so eat this.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the habit of picking one.

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<v Speaker 1>Food stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very boring thing to do thinking about what

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<v Speaker 3>to eat. I just want to eat for fun. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would definitely remove that one. Okay, I know I

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<v Speaker 3>said that you can pick one and still stay alive,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like breathing has all these extra considerations

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<v Speaker 3>like isn't breathing the reason why, like your blood circulates

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you need to Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, i'd miss the feeling of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, are you breathing into the mic, doing deep breaths

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<v Speaker 3>before you start speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd miss that too. So which one you said? No breathing?

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<v Speaker 1>I said no eating?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I like like I like the feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>being hungry and then sat eating your hunger. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling of being really tired and then getting into bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Just foody things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but both of those things are very much If

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<v Speaker 2>they don't go right, it's like has a big impact

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<v Speaker 2>on you, which I guess is the same with breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you if you're really hungry for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose concentration, if you can't sleep, like asleep last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible is the worst, the worst one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody needs to go and ask their nearest and

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<v Speaker 3>dearests just it doesn't even matter what their answer is,

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<v Speaker 3>but just why they've picked it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I like that because consequences just a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of homework for everyone you're with flexing frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on CAD pet names. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? Before you can even get it out

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<v Speaker 2>of your mouth, I'm saying yes, yes, mammy.

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<v Speaker 1>Which ones do you use?

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt? Yep, bubba.

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<v Speaker 1>That's oh, I love when you call me doll. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Love is one that I'm trying to bring into the rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always used those?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably They've actually become more prevalent as I've gotten older. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I was at a cafe on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and woman had me my coffee who was younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, oh thanks, HNH, Like, WHOA have I

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<v Speaker 2>become like one of those all the weak age you've

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<v Speaker 2>aged out? Because it doesn't feel passive aggressive when I

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<v Speaker 2>say it, but I remember being young and people calling

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<v Speaker 2>me han like I don't believe in calling particularly people

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<v Speaker 2>who are working in service or people that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>or older people calling me hun can feel often quite hostile.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't say condescending, Oh yeah, that true, but I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely also received as condescending.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it doesn't even fly off the tongue.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think the transition is you date someone

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<v Speaker 3>and then you do pet names on one thousand, but

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<v Speaker 3>you don't grow out of the habit, so you replace

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<v Speaker 3>the partner pet names, which is a general pet name

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<v Speaker 3>everyone can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely a babe a babes babes A love and a lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you say on emails? You say something

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<v Speaker 2>on emails? Oh you say olah all a lovely, all

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<v Speaker 2>a lovely everyone gets it. Not gendered, don't care. The

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<v Speaker 2>babes to me is aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's from love Island. Oh really, you're right babes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Look Greg, and we're having a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>She sounds not from my filence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an essexcal I digress.

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<v Speaker 3>There is someone here who's really upset because they don't

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy being called pet names and doesn't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>tell the person pet naming them that they're not comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>with that. When reading that, I felt like, wow, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I am the issue because I hadn't really thought about

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<v Speaker 3>it a lot. But I always assume that people would

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<v Speaker 3>find being called pet name quite endearing, because I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it to be endearing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 3>My lesbian girlfriend as in girl space friend won't stop

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<v Speaker 3>calling me pet names, and I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 3>tell her.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel super uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a straight female thirty one years old and my

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<v Speaker 3>friend is twenty six. She pops in and out of

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<v Speaker 3>my life, and I've known her for some years, but

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<v Speaker 3>we rarely see each other. Recently, she's gone through a

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<v Speaker 3>breakup and has a lot of issues at home, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to be a good friend and be

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<v Speaker 3>there for her, and lately she texts me a lot

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<v Speaker 3>or calls me almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day to talk for hours. Well, she's been calling.

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<v Speaker 3>Me babe bee bee bee, my love love, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>She's also asked if I could be her sleeping buddy

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<v Speaker 3>so when she's I see what the conferend is, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>She's also asked me if I could be her sleeping

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<v Speaker 3>buddy so when she's sleeping to call me so I

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<v Speaker 3>can be on the phone and she could fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I said no and said I don't keep my phone

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<v Speaker 3>next to me when sleeping. She also sends me good

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<v Speaker 3>night text messages and a lot of TikTok's dedicating songs

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Don't I have said I appreciate her as

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<v Speaker 3>a friend, but nothing else. She responded to that, saying

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<v Speaker 3>she's just big talk but would never do anything but

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<v Speaker 3>the whole babe bee calling makes me extremely uncomfortable and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to approach it since I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to offend her and assume she's trying to replace

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<v Speaker 3>her excess attention with mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, heck, there's a lot of layers that. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>headline misleading, so misleading. There's a biggest issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bubbling over. I personally have a lot of thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your initial thoughts flex My initial thoughts is

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<v Speaker 3>I wish for most platonic friendships to have just an

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<v Speaker 3>element of romance. I think that friends should be romancing

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Take your friend to a nice dinner, buy

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of nice anniversary gift. Definitely, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>we need to elevate the sacred nature of friendship, especially

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<v Speaker 3>close friendships, make me your soulmate, commit to them in

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<v Speaker 3>a way that you would to romantic partner, like be

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm gonna be here, write or die for you

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<v Speaker 3>a love.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems like you don't want that from this person. So

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<v Speaker 3>in this case, I really don't know how I would

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<v Speaker 3>approach a situation where somebody was making me so uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>and that I hadn't already expressed that I was uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>if for some reason, I'm imagining, if your messaging here

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<v Speaker 3>that you've already alluded to it and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>look like, don't call me those things. They don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not taking you seriously. I would soft ghost, but

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<v Speaker 3>this person started the message with saying she pops in

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<v Speaker 3>and out of my life and I've known it for years,

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<v Speaker 3>but we rarely see each other. So to me, a

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<v Speaker 3>soft ghost is nothing but a recalibration. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>this whole. Honesty is the best part. Honesty is the

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<v Speaker 3>best policy policy over communicative thing. As an over communicator,

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<v Speaker 3>I swear it works half the time. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>year here is different. I think she's concerned that the

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<v Speaker 3>friend has feelings for her. The fact that she mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>The first sentence that her friends a lesbian suggests to

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<v Speaker 2>me that she's a little bit too consumed that the

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<v Speaker 2>lesbian vibes might be put upon her.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that just what straight people do? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>People Yeah, like, I can't be affectionate without you feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like I want to root you. Yeah, I do not

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<v Speaker 3>just be affectionate with you. And maybe that's just not

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<v Speaker 3>the relationship. Maybe you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's just what it is. What would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I personally use a lot of pet names, particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>a work sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to say.

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<v Speaker 2>King, King, queen, prince, princess.

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<v Speaker 1>We love king.

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<v Speaker 2>People love it when I like, I saw my neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, I was like, hey, King, can you

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<v Speaker 2>help me? He's like, thank you so much calling me King,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I really appreciated that. I'm like, this is on rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels so not the only one, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>love you King, Blame my king, that's my king. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely someone who's done pet names in relationships. Me

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<v Speaker 2>using pet names has become a new thing as I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten older. But previously I'd have a boyfriend we call

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<v Speaker 2>each other baby, which before that I would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was absolutely disgusting. But when someone you know, throw

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<v Speaker 2>some babies around, I think she should. Maybe maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with this soft ghost in this scenario, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also do think it is they allowed it to get

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<v Speaker 2>to this point. Oh you never you allow things in

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<v Speaker 2>your relationships. I'm going to say that, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get mad when they take you up on offers.

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<v Speaker 3>As we have discovered, fifty percent of all of your

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<v Speaker 3>conflict is half of your fault, to be regarded obviously

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<v Speaker 3>with a grain of salt, But in this situation, you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go hard. You're gonna go soft, go hard. That's

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<v Speaker 3>full hate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fenfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't happen. Please stop, We're not doing this anymore. Please

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<v Speaker 3>foot down, go soft ghost for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, I'll use too match I hate lol no more

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<v Speaker 2>Bay call me, call me the sinder And then for

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<v Speaker 2>some funny emojis, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a way out? Yeah you're listening to Flex and

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<v Speaker 1>Frooms on Cada.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been staying in my same house for two

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<v Speaker 2>years now. The lease is coming up in October, just

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<v Speaker 2>as I got back from Europe. Because I love when

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<v Speaker 2>things are line up in a way that's extremely stressful,

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<v Speaker 2>but I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Spice, spice of life. Yeah, OK, it is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been. I've had a quite chill, quite a chill

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<v Speaker 2>few months. I'm probably ready to get a kick up

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<v Speaker 2>the ass. But of course, in conjunction to having to

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<v Speaker 2>find a house, I'm also needing to find a new housemate.

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<v Speaker 2>So someone that I know, a friend of mine, has

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<v Speaker 2>decided to make the leap and move out with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing and I know how well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think I need to ask how she lives,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't feel like I need to ask cash

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<v Speaker 2>this because I've got a really great gauge on her

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a lot of mutual friends, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just know what she's like. She's a very hard worker.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen her house? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you set foot in, Yes, you've had a

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<v Speaker 2>look yep. Great like the furniture, like the vibe, very

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<v Speaker 2>much like her. However, we want a third housemate. We've

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<v Speaker 2>both been casting the net and she has been period.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been doing casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we kind of have the woman that I'm moving

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<v Speaker 2>out with. One of her friends is keen to move out,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had a group chat the other day over

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook Messenger, little call up, but the friend is in

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<v Speaker 2>another country, so the kind of the times were in

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<v Speaker 2>lining up, so it ended up having to be just

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<v Speaker 2>me and her having a conversation on the phone, no awkwardness,

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<v Speaker 2>which was amazing. Really liked her vibe, strong, confident, fun

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<v Speaker 2>like just seemed like a good vibe. Also, she probably

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<v Speaker 2>might listen to this, so but I love that anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't get the way any details. I also don't

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to turn her off, like I don't usually use

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<v Speaker 2>people for content that I live with just FYI. So

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<v Speaker 2>my question to you flex is what should have I

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<v Speaker 2>asked her? Or what should I ask her and my

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<v Speaker 2>friend before moving in with them? Because it's a three

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<v Speaker 2>person sharehouse and I know things can go wrong in

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<v Speaker 2>this dynamic flex. I know you live alone. I do,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure how helpful you'll be in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>but extremely helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you're asking, because I have made the mistake

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<v Speaker 3>in too many situations where I needed to be asking

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<v Speaker 3>the right questions of just making sure that I was

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<v Speaker 3>being charming and facilitating them being charming. And before you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wait, I didn't check anything. I remember before

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<v Speaker 3>I moved into my most recent apartment. I had just

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<v Speaker 3>finished watching some kind of TikTok about what you should

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<v Speaker 3>check before you move into an apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from this New York based real term who leases

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<v Speaker 1>shitty apartments. So she's like, this is what you should

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<v Speaker 1>look out for.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's like, look at the shower pressure, the water

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<v Speaker 3>pressure in every room. Check how many bars you have

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<v Speaker 3>when you're walking into every room. Check where the powerpoints are,

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<v Speaker 3>if they're inconvenient locations for the rooms that you think

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<v Speaker 3>you might want to use them for so if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a bedroom, other powerpoints on either side of the bed, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in, didn't do any of that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even go into this apartment. Actually Sally went into this one,

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, can we do GI do all the FaceTime

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<v Speaker 3>I get the gist. I didn't have the gist. I

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<v Speaker 3>moved and I was like, whoa, what this place is

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<v Speaker 3>so much bigger than I thought. Wow, So where was

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<v Speaker 3>the And I'm trying to give it to cross referencing,

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<v Speaker 3>so bad person's asking this sense. But I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing that I want to know is don't

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<v Speaker 3>ask questions about this person in particular, tell them about

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<v Speaker 3>scenarios and see how they respond.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa. Yeah. My other friend was saying we should do

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of like experiment like that with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you say, like, oh, you know, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you with like cleaning?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, like good, like I'll get it done or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, you know, we had our last housemate

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<v Speaker 3>who was always on my back for not doing dishes

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<v Speaker 3>every day, like are you what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you begone?

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<v Speaker 3>See how they respond, and then find a different way

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<v Speaker 3>to answer ask the same question because I also think

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<v Speaker 3>the tricky thing is we're not all as self aware

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<v Speaker 3>as we like to think that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are upsetting for me to know about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think anyone's gonna say out loud like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll leave my stuff everywhere if I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>It a dirty, dirty heathen in the house, they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Be hair everywhere. You won't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I find that like ask the questions that matter

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<v Speaker 3>based on the household that you are trying to curate.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd imagine you want like a not a rag

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<v Speaker 3>of household, but it did a party, social household. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>watch some TV together, have some chit chats, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're building some kind of familial unit.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not siblings, maybe aunties.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or something together. So are they open to that

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<v Speaker 3>life style as well? Do they also cook? Do they

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<v Speaker 3>also enjoy? Because I think if I was living with

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<v Speaker 3>someone now, I would want someone who lived a very

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<v Speaker 3>practical and repetitive lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, me too, them being my rock let me be

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<v Speaker 1>the chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, both the girls that I'm potentially moving in with

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<v Speaker 2>I have full time jobs that acquire office times, whereas,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, in my life, we just come into cata.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise I'm roaming around like a little frog in the

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<v Speaker 2>forest doing what a lot friend, literally flitting about the place.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'd be nice to have a bit of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel nervous about picking the wrong person and

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<v Speaker 3>living with them for a year, Like, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>worst kind of person you think you would live with?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very unflappable these days. Wow, Previously I wouldn't have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously it was quite an anxious thing to try and

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<v Speaker 2>find a house. I've had to share houses in my time.

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<v Speaker 2>Both very positive. Now I feel like I could kind

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<v Speaker 2>of handle anything. I don't want to jinx myself. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I would worry about would be people

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<v Speaker 2>who like a judgmental of my lifestyle, because my lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>is like relatively unconventional. I do go to bed quite late.

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<v Speaker 1>What time.

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<v Speaker 2>Lately it's been like one or two am, not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>by choice. I've been struggling sleeping and I get up

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I want, And I find it very frustrating if

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<v Speaker 2>someone is like an early riser, if they comment on

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<v Speaker 2>my or they're like, you know, it's such a beautiul

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<v Speaker 2>day outside. Yeah, I'm gonna find that out for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Three is it you've missed the whole day. Yeah, literally,

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<v Speaker 1>like you never.

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<v Speaker 2>Get up this early. It's like, yeah, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, someone who doesn't really shame my lifestyles, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's a huge one. It's gonna be unconventional. My escape

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<v Speaker 2>as well, is that in an ideal world, in my dream,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be moving out by myself in the

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<v Speaker 2>next you know, after twelve months time, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for me to make the leap, become become my

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<v Speaker 2>own self sustaining unit.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you're saying is you can handle anything for

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<v Speaker 3>twelve months because you're trying to be out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, Okay, cool. I know it's not a fever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with anything that could be challenging. If you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going on forever, it's quite unbearable. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you give yourself a date, even if it doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got some mental escape routes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole thing sounds very stressful.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if the living situations that do exist currently,

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<v Speaker 3>like the positive ones, if they were a byproduct by

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<v Speaker 3>someone's strategy or it was just by chance. But the

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<v Speaker 3>two amazing sharehouse experiences you had. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>you had anything to do with it prior to moving In.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one, I knew the woman from work, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's a very very curated, intentional person, super smart like

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<v Speaker 2>you and her would get along very well because she

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<v Speaker 2>thinks about everything she does and it's all very considered,

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<v Speaker 2>and she likes her alone time and curates people, has

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<v Speaker 2>dinner parties. Oh, she's very crafty. She's just like a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my current housemate is very go with the

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<v Speaker 2>flow and fun and with the same age that was

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<v Speaker 2>good for a certain thing and very receptive to feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>We both are, so I think I've like in part,

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<v Speaker 2>facilitated it as well. It's kind of I think for

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<v Speaker 2>the most time that I've lived with people, i've been single,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's been a while where I've been with someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that can change your dynamic. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what I'd be like if and when I

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<v Speaker 2>find a partner in this sharehouse. That complicates things.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are you imagining yourself to be like?

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<v Speaker 2>More just taking up more space than I usually do

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<v Speaker 2>and just bringing a new energy into the house that

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be kind of responsible for that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pressure. Like we were saying now that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't put your boyfriends out there or anyone you're dating

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<v Speaker 2>just because how they might reflect on you. It's giving that.

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<v Speaker 2>But in a household, very domestic situation, yes, but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a whole nother kettle of fish that I personally

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to deal with right now. But I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it. I'm really excited to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of new changes it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to need some moving out tips from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, wow, flax and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>See. I am a big fan of Mona. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you are too, as you kind of growling, huge fan.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty cool. I like the kind of one shift

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<v Speaker 2>that it's had from when I was a child being

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<v Speaker 2>considered really daggy and scary. It was a lot of misconceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely jokes that were bandied about about Tasmania. Absolutely anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for them. It's a great pr move. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, but I could imagine the residents might

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<v Speaker 3>feel a bit of resentment, because it's always a bit

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<v Speaker 3>weird when like the thing you were bullied for is

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that's now cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The people that get to glow up. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading this is actually this segment isn't actually really related

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<v Speaker 2>to it, But I wanted to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>the Festival of Dangerous Ideas. And I saw this before

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<v Speaker 2>all happening. I read it on the City Morning Herald

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<v Speaker 2>about a talk on a certain act, a certain sexual

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<v Speaker 2>act that is deemed illegal and rightly so. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think this talk. Wanted to kind of consider the parameters

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<v Speaker 2>of that issue and talk about it freely, because the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing about the Festival of Dangerous Ideas is sharing

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<v Speaker 2>opinions and thoughts on things that we don't often.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about Critical Thinking Fest.

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<v Speaker 2>Something similar happened with Mona a few years ago with

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<v Speaker 2>the I believe it was a performance with somebody inside

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<v Speaker 2>a carcass of a animal. What is your take on things

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<v Speaker 2>that are inflammatory, or rather things that explore issues that

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<v Speaker 2>make us uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're necessary, but I am very mindful of

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<v Speaker 3>the environments they happen in. So obviously we've had discussions

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<v Speaker 3>before on you know, it's not always the most safe

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<v Speaker 3>and sensible thing to talk about inflammatory topics to any

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<v Speaker 3>old audience, because you're not really responsible for what.

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<v Speaker 1>They do with that information. And how that impacts other people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think in.

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<v Speaker 3>A relatively sane, sensible environment where we're not just like

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<v Speaker 3>nurturing a bunch of Serira killers, I think, yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 3>have a little chit chat. I also think that this

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<v Speaker 3>is why you need quote unquote safe spaces, not spaces

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<v Speaker 3>that are like without danger, but safe as in like

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<v Speaker 3>minded people, shared goals, shared interests, shared responsibility, shared sakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you can have these discussions fairly. But if it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like chatting, you know, tidbits in a random area

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<v Speaker 3>to a random crowd, with no responsibility of anything that

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<v Speaker 3>gets said, slippery slope.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between the safe space where people are

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<v Speaker 2>respectful and an echo chamber.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think a safe space, like for me, this station,

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<v Speaker 3>like what this room is a safe space because I

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<v Speaker 3>know that I can say what I need to, I

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<v Speaker 3>have time to reiterate on a thought, I can backtrack,

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<v Speaker 3>I can think out loud. That is safe for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel hostility when I share an idea that

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<v Speaker 3>is odd or strange, and I think that they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're humor me enough that I can get

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<v Speaker 3>to my point and feel as so I'm allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. An echo chamber would be if you were

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<v Speaker 3>parroting everything that I said because I said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean per win interesting good to know the I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people have different distinctions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm personally very hard to offend, and I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any religious time, so it's very hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>be offended by what people do because I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have very strong opinions on things. It's very hard when

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<v Speaker 2>you feel targeted and attacked, especially for art reasons, to

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<v Speaker 2>not behave in a way that's wanting to tear them down.

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<v Speaker 2>But will you be going to dangerous festive ideas?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go at least for one day or

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<v Speaker 3>a few sessions here and there. Just depends because each

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<v Speaker 3>session has a different ticket, So you have to know

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to go to before you go, and that,

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<v Speaker 3>to me is just too much planning.

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