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Speaker 1: There's a new show starting on Thursday, least we speak

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Speaker 1: about Paramount plus it it's called Undressed.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Heisman is the host. She is joining us. Now, Hello, Catherine, Hi.

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Speaker 3: And I'm dressed for this segment, I promise.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, yes, I was looking for the show yesterday

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Speaker 2: on Paramount, but unfortunately it doesn't start until Thursday. So

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Speaker 2: tell us about the concept of the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Well, it's basically the idea that we reveal

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Speaker 4: the biggest, deepest parts of ourselves through the clothes that

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Speaker 4: we wear. And no one really looks at fashion through

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Speaker 4: that lens. And so it's this amazing group of people

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Speaker 4: that are strangers that I've never met before, and they're

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Speaker 4: invited into a circle. It's this social experiment and I

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Speaker 4: invite each of them into the center of the circle,

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Speaker 4: and I asked, would you like to have a reading?

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Speaker 4: And I tell them who I see when I look

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Speaker 4: at their clothes, the deepest parts of them, the you know,

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Speaker 4: the best qualities, the past traumas, everything about them, and

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Speaker 4: then we they feel seen for the very first time.

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Speaker 4: It's this very emotional experience and I think everyone watching

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Speaker 4: this couldn't see yourselves in these different individuals and then

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Speaker 4: we set on what it's not a makeover at all

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Speaker 4: and not interested in makeovers because you just makeover as

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Speaker 4: a superficial You just put clothes on them, they can

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Speaker 4: take them off. It's a transformation where we ask the question,

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Speaker 4: if you change your clothes, can you change your life?

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Speaker 4: And we follow them on this journey and it is

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Speaker 4: absolutely breathtaking to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it can be a change of mindset more

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Speaker 1: important than anything can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, once you idea, once you see yourself through that

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Speaker 4: lens of like, and you have someone who you've never

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Speaker 4: met before actually identify these qualities that you think are hidden,

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Speaker 4: and then it unlocks you and then you are able

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Speaker 4: to choose the clothing that expresses that unlocked version of yourself.

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Speaker 4: So that you know, in life, so much of communications

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Speaker 4: non verbal unless you're on radio, and you can use

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Speaker 4: fashion as a tool that says so much for you,

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Speaker 4: and it can attract the opportunities and make you feel

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Speaker 4: most importantly the version of yourself that you want, and

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Speaker 4: it changes the course of someone's life. So it's a

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Speaker 4: deep transformation that it just happens to use fashion as

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Speaker 4: the mechanism to get there.

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Speaker 2: All right, how did you get into this line of work?

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Speaker 3: I know, well, it's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I as a young girl, I realized I had this

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Speaker 4: kind of really unique ability where I could look at

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Speaker 4: someone's clothes and see them. And when I was younger,

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Speaker 4: I wrote my first book, How to Tell a Man

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Speaker 4: by His Shoes, really as a guide to help me at.

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Speaker 3: The time I was single.

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Speaker 4: I was like, there's got to be an easier way,

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Speaker 4: and that ended up being international their seller and kind

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Speaker 4: of and then I wrote my second book, How to

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Speaker 4: Tell a Woman by Her Handbag. And of course once

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Speaker 4: you've written those books, everywhere you go people say, oh,

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Speaker 4: what are my shoes?

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Speaker 3: What are my bag? What do my cloth? Say?

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Speaker 4: And I just did it all around the world if

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Speaker 4: it was based in the US for a very long time,

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Speaker 4: and I thought, this needs to be a show. People

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Speaker 4: need to see fashion through this lens and it can

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Speaker 4: help them with their life and also entertain them. And

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Speaker 4: so that's how it came about.

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Speaker 2: Times you got to be careful what you ask for.

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Speaker 2: Have people asked you tell me, tell me, read me,

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Speaker 2: read me, And then that you've said something and they've said,

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Speaker 2: I beg your I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't choose this outfit.

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Speaker 1: My wife did judging us, Oh what's wrong with my outfit?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever get a bit of that?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't because I don't judge someone.

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Speaker 4: Everyone thinks they're going to be judged, and it's not that.

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Speaker 4: It's actually seeing someone and so you do see that,

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Speaker 4: you see them in the complexity of them, and they

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Speaker 4: actually it's actually a really beautiful experience. I've never had

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Speaker 4: someone until today, I've never had someone not appreciate it

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Speaker 4: not judging them, there's not I'm not saying, oh, everyone

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Speaker 4: should be wearing this.

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Speaker 3: I'm the op.

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Speaker 4: I really hate that actually, And then but then I

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Speaker 4: can point out like, okay, I can see things that

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Speaker 4: have happened to you in the past that and you're

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Speaker 4: dressing this way, you're reaffirming that negative image or that

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Speaker 4: bad habit, and are you getting the results you want?

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Speaker 3: And the answer is no? And then it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: what maybe we need to get changed?

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Speaker 1: Literally, did you just slip in until today? Have you

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Speaker 1: said someone's vacation?

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Speaker 3: No, but it's coming up.

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Speaker 1: Oh guys, okay, what about the cost of everything? As

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Speaker 1: we know, we get sick of talking about the cost

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Speaker 1: of everything is going up, But does this affect what

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Speaker 1: you're doing and how people can dress. I'm obviously clothing

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Speaker 1: is going up too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Look I am. I'm like, even though I

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Speaker 4: love fashion, I'm as happy to wear something from Kmart

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Speaker 4: one of the great things. Even though costs of living

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Speaker 4: is going up in some ways, and this is a

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Speaker 4: also slightly going down depending on where you shot because

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Speaker 4: of different manufacturing things. So I really believe that it

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Speaker 4: doesn't depend on how much money you make. It's really

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Speaker 4: about you can go into any store and pick clothing

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Speaker 4: that makes you feel good, or you can buy a

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Speaker 4: clothing that makes you feel bad, no matter what your

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Speaker 4: price points. So and you can go vintage, you can

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Speaker 4: even shop your A lot of the stuff on this

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Speaker 4: show is about just curating your own wardrobe. You don't

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Speaker 4: even have to buy a single thing. Like maybe it's

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Speaker 4: about wearing the thing that you bought in a moment

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Speaker 4: of hopefulness but you haven't had the confidence to step

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Speaker 4: into or getting rid of the clothes that reaffirm those negative,

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Speaker 4: you know, experiences. So maybe you don't have to spend

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can sell some stuff and make money maybe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you've seen what we're wearing today, so can

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Speaker 2: you see us?

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Speaker 3: I can see?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm seeing, like, is it the black blazer

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that the outfit on which one of

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Speaker 3: us on? Oh? On you? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Are you? Why don't you just is that your outfit?

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Speaker 3: Just describe your outfit to me?

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Speaker 2: We said, we said some photos through.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, is it a black dress? Yes? Okay, beautiful? Okay, great,

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Speaker 3: you look amazing.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe that was okay, So you're wearing a

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Speaker 4: black square neck dress with a wrap, some rousing, some

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Speaker 4: black tights, and some black boots. Just to describe it

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Speaker 4: for everyone, and then a single necklace which probably has

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Speaker 4: maybe sentimental value on it in it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Okay, So what I would like to

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Speaker 3: you're someone probably.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a really big jewelry person, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: small as in an accessorizing jewelry person, that jewelry person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, less is more for you, and I can say

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Speaker 4: that as a holistically for you. You do like to

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Speaker 4: keep things quite simple, quite hard back. You kind of

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Speaker 4: you kind of It's interesting because you work in media,

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Speaker 4: but there's a little part of you that likes to

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Speaker 4: kind of safely hide as well and not feel completely

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Speaker 4: exposed or seen. There's that contradiction between the two of you.

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Speaker 4: You've got the brightly red lips, so there's a boldness

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Speaker 3: Strength to you. At the same time, you don't like

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Speaker 4: You like to be recognized for what you have to say,

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Speaker 4: not for the clothes that you choose to wear, which

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Speaker 4: is really speaks to your value system.

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Speaker 3: Open your spot.

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Speaker 1: You've nailed it. You have nailed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you really have.

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Speaker 2: Okay you feeling no, I'm feeling weird. No, that's that's okay,

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Speaker 2: that's that's cool.

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Speaker 1: What about out of time.

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 4: I mean what's interesting is your outfit is not dissimilar,

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Speaker 4: but a male version.

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Speaker 3: You've got a.

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Speaker 4: Black also V neck T shirt, black pants, and a

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Speaker 4: black kind of more dress shoe though, so you're someone

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Speaker 4: who is actually quite meticulous in a way, like actually

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Speaker 4: quite driven. Quite on top of things. You've got a

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Speaker 4: you're like Laura Biding, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: you're's you know, yeah, there's a part of you that is,

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Speaker 4: you know, quite classically. Your value system is more traditional

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Speaker 4: than you might let on. Yet you've got the black

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Speaker 4: V neck T shirt, which is like the renegade T

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Speaker 4: shirt as well. So you're this interesting hybrid of being

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Speaker 4: they've got you pegged, you're like, ah, I'm completely like

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Speaker 4: you throw people completely because you have this renegade spirit

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Speaker 3: Very interesting combination.

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Speaker 4: Of the two qualities makes it a very good person

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Speaker 4: because you're dependable and reliable, but at the same time

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Speaker 4: you're fun and free and not everyone has those two

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Speaker 1: Wow, interesting the rebel streaking the conservative Okay, yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The control for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's lace up shoes, they're polished.

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Speaker 4: I mean what I'm looking at someone who's yeah, like

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Speaker 4: you're not leaving anything to chance, and yet the years.

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Speaker 2: In military training, I'm so, I'm so not a shoe person.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my mom's like, you know, a meld of Marcos.

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Speaker 2: But I've rever been much of a shoe person myself, So.

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Speaker 3: You've got a slightly thicker sole on it. You're like

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Speaker 3: someone who needs to get things like a comfortable show. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like you're a doer and I'm a person. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: You feel a bit protected that we see that in

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Speaker 4: the show as well, like people you know, when you

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Speaker 4: have a slightly thicker soul or something like that, it's

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Speaker 4: someone who is protecting a more sensitive soul.

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Speaker 3: Like it's different spelling and kind of.

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Speaker 4: Marching through life, Like you need to protect yourself in

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Speaker 4: order to get what you want done. And that's a

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Speaker 4: way of doing it, like get like if someone gives

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Speaker 4: especially if you give yourself that job. Yeah, but there's

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Speaker 4: a certain kind of Yeah, it's like, don't mess with

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Speaker 4: me because there is that kind of more sensitive side

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Speaker 2: And do you think that we should change change it

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Speaker 4: I mean the fact that you're both like head to

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Speaker 4: toe black and it's kind of like I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was like, is this the fire? It took me

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Speaker 3: a second to.

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Speaker 2: Realize that I do wear a lot of black.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and black is sometimes the uniform of someone. I

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Speaker 4: Look, I spent years living in New York and so

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Speaker 4: my outfit my progressively blacker, and I was like, I

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Speaker 4: could never find the right black bear of pants because

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Speaker 4: it's like the black.

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Speaker 3: Hole in my wardrobe. So I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: And it allows you to be like an urban trooper

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Speaker 4: in some ways as well. Like you know, as I say,

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Speaker 4: the focus isn't on what you're wearing. You can feel

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Speaker 4: invisible but still get stuff done. However, when there's an

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Speaker 4: element where you're hiding parts of yourself or you just

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Speaker 4: don't want to be seen, you have to look at that, like,

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Speaker 4: what is that like the oversized black T shirt? Neither

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Speaker 4: of yours is oversized, I will say, but yours does

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Speaker 4: have rousing, and yours is a little bit looser. Is

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Speaker 4: someone It's like the invisibility wardrobe, And sometimes there's issues

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Speaker 4: with like self image and kind of coming to love

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Speaker 4: that and not wanting to hide it or make it

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Speaker 4: look smaller, but to take up more space in your

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Speaker 4: life would be something that I would suggest.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is fascinating. I can't wait to watch the

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Speaker 2: show when it starts on Thursday on Paramount Plus Catherine,

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Speaker 2: iismand thank you for seeing us, Thank you for letting.

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Speaker 1: Me see gothic wedding.

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Speaker 3: Thank you bye.

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Speaker 1: That was a bit speaky, was kind of spot on

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Speaker 1: a different what I was expecting to be honest, all right,

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Speaker 1: there you go.