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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Daily OS. It is Monday, the fifteenth of July. I'm Billy,

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Speaker 1: I'm Sam. Yesterday there was an assassination attempt on the

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Speaker 1: former US President Donald Trump. It was the first time

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Speaker 1: been a lot of commentary about this attempt and what

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Speaker 1: political community have condemned this act of political violence. We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you exactly what you need to know in today's podcast,

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Speaker 1: But first, Sam, what is making headlines today?

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Speaker 2: Well, Billy, I know that we're gonna some time talking

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Speaker 2: talking about yesterday's assassination attempt on former US President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: After the events of yesterday, Trump's campaign released a joint

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Speaker 1: New South Wales Premier Chris Mins has announced its long

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Speaker 1: awaited drug Summit will begin this October. Leaders are expected

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Speaker 1: And today's good news, Scientists have used a fifty two

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Billy, It was a massive day of news yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an absolutely historic day in US politics. Like I

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Speaker 2: Almost one for every president, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and knowing that these kind of things can happen,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's really symbolic of where we're at

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