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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: An opinion piece in The Herald this morning by journalist

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Speaker 2: Chris Harrison, there's a picture of him with a bald head,

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Speaker 2: and this is what he's talking about. People feel free

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Speaker 2: to crack bald jokes, but he can't make jokes about

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Speaker 2: other people's appearances. It's quite interesting, actually, he says. You know,

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Speaker 2: he'll be sitting in a room and the light in

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Speaker 2: a meeting in the boardroom, the lights go off and

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Speaker 2: someone says, oh, there's enough shine coming off your baldy

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Speaker 2: over here in Ukrainians And he lists six or seven

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Speaker 2: bald jokes and he says, yes, yes, haha. Isn't it funny?

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Speaker 2: He said, bald jokes, I've heard them all. But it's interesting,

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Speaker 2: as he says, PC society is now obsessed with inclusion.

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Speaker 2: You can't make jokes about people's weight, their gender, their race,

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Speaker 2: their sexual orientation.

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Speaker 1: Or made this job hard, hasn't it some of the

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Speaker 1: good old days?

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Speaker 2: Well, he says, we are all about these days, respect

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Speaker 2: and all the stuff that we've tried not to make

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Speaker 2: jokes about, but baldness is still ripe for ridicule. It's interesting,

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Speaker 2: he said. The journey he went to going through hair

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Speaker 2: loss to be baled. He said hair going bald was

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Speaker 2: worse than being baled, and no one would make a

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Speaker 2: joke about someone who's losing their hair.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't think they would. I think the

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Speaker 2: jokes are, well, you've shaved your head or whatever, you're

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Speaker 2: fully bored. It looks like you've chosen it. Therefore there's

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Speaker 2: no feelings involved. You've chosen this somehow, He says. People

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Speaker 2: assume making fun of a bald guy is harmless, a

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Speaker 2: punchline with no real victim. They think baldness invites less

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Speaker 2: emotional vulnerability than a joke about weight or appearance. But

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Speaker 2: such assumptions ignore the deep personal impact that hair loss

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Speaker 2: can have on self esteem, on identity, perception of aging,

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Speaker 2: and virility. It's a double stat as he said. He says,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go back to saying, oh, we

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Speaker 2: should you know we were two PC, he said. I

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Speaker 2: just want to point out the double stack.

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Speaker 1: It's a concern. As I get older, the DP the

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Speaker 1: Devin patch gets bigger.

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Speaker 2: I really thick.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been lucky, but you know.

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Speaker 3: As I get my fifty eight to fifty seven, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not going.

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Speaker 1: To last there forever.

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Speaker 3: But my dad, he had the same hair as me,

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Speaker 3: and I know that he had a slight DP up

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Speaker 3: until he died and he had cancer, he had chemo

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Speaker 3: and everything, and his hair still stayed in there. But

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Speaker 3: it is a concern when I talk to a lot

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Speaker 3: of young guys at building sites and stuff, and I'll

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Speaker 3: talk about their hair and it really worries them that

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Speaker 3: they're losing their hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pressure now on men with all the ads we have,

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Speaker 2: the surgeries, you can have the cosmetic creams, you can

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Speaker 2: buy all the yeah yeah kind of stuff. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of pressure on them to make decisions about it.

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Speaker 2: But as he says, as Chris says in this article,

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Speaker 2: going bald was much harder than being born. So I

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Speaker 2: think there there's a vulnerability around going board. But people

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Speaker 2: feel if you're fully baled, you've made a decision, therefore

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Speaker 2: you're invulnerable to the angst around it.

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Speaker 3: Jim Jeffries, the comedian, has made a lot about his

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Speaker 3: thinning hair and the various pills that he's taken to

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Speaker 3: keep a thick head of hair, and he was saying

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Speaker 3: that women can they can choose to wear wigs and

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Speaker 3: everyone thinks, oh, that's just a bit of fun.

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Speaker 1: But a man puts on a wig and everyone rags on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, isn't it. Yeah yeah yeah, food for thought.

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Speaker 1: It is food for thought.