WEBVTT - Call Me Mother 👠 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.799 Oh, I love a bit of a gossip and detective work. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.080 I think they go so well together. Do you like 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.799 it too? You don't have to answer that. I know 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.560 you do. That's why you're here with me, Arts Simone. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.040 I'm sitting down with pretty bland people, you know, and 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.040 uncovering the thing that makes them more interesting or more 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.000 exciting than your regular Joe. And it's really simple. I 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.200 do a bit of detective work, have a little kiki, 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.159 and then get the tea. Really, it's the mother of 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.360 all podcasts. This is concealed with art, Simone. Oh, let's 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:40.000 bring in our. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:45.520 Guests raw time. Hi. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.479 My name's Sue. I live in Werribee. My age well 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.480 a lady never tells, but what I will say is 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.640 I share the same birth date as Sir Elton John. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.240 I have two cats. I'm a self proclaimed Martha Stewart 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:08.480 of Melbourne, lover of art and crafts and quite the 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:15.040 reputation for sourcing anything and everything. But today I'm here 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.520 to set the record straight. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:23.280 Hello. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.640 Oh my goodness, Hello Sue, how are you? 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:27.720 I'm very well? Thank you? 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:28.160 Art. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.840 Oh no, this is very exciting because we are changing 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.200 things up for our season finale. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.039 Because I know exactly who you are. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.440 I do, but I'm still going to play our fun 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.560 game because I think our listeners are going to have 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.920 a little fun trying to work out who exactly is 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:48.200 sitting in front of me here today. All right, I'm excited. Okay, good, 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.360 So you're covered in your drenched in sequence. You look 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.320 like a disco ball. You've got a beautiful cropped bob 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.280 there with the nice highlights and low lights. Very I 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.400 want to speak to the manager. I like that, and 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.680 a nice pair of spectacles as well. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.000 Do you like to read? 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:10.079 I do read the house down boots, mamma. Yes, guide exactly. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.720 And that's what I call a yes and person just 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:17.680 going with the flow. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.400 But you said you like. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.200 Arts and crafts and you're a self proclaimed Martha Stewart 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.240 of Melbourne. What do you like to do with just 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:27.560 you know, tax evasion? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.600 Please keep that to yourself. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:36.040 Oh my goodness, Now you'd need a job. But but 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.079 now what do you get up to? What makes your 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:38.760 Martha Stewart? 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:45.120 I love baking, I love home decorating. Yes, and my 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:52.920 specialty from what my family considers is birthday parties, special occasions, celebrations. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.000 Right, I go all out what's your favorite like the 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:01.200 daycre the goodie bags, the favorite bag. Oh, okay, you're 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.120 queen of the favor bag. Yes, well, I do know 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.560 a lot of people that love a good bag, so 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.560 I think we have a lot in comment. What I'm 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.880 gonna do today is ask you three questions, and from 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.920 the answer to those three questions, our wonderful listeners have 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.440 to try and work out what you're concealing. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.800 I'm ready, all right, and also who you are? I guess. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.880 So the first question I have for you is which 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.320 on screen hairdo would you like to try once in 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:28.919 your life? 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.840 H Marge Simpson, of course, Marge Simpson. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.040 What do you like about the Simpsons. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.280 Blue hair? 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.920 You like the blue hair? Blue hair? 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.440 Marge Simpson? Yes, So do you like the Simpsons or 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.880 you just like her hair? I just like her hair, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:53.200 all right, right, hair lover? Okay, okay. Question number two 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:58.600 for you is which Kardashian are you most like? Oh, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:05.000 Chris Jennas mammager exactly, yes, right, okay, so you're most 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:10.480 like Chris Jenna. But well, the matriarch of the family. Okay, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.200 she seems a mean She's done some wonderful things with Look. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.720 Look how she took off Kim's career. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.000 Do you think she would film the sex tape? 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.680 I think so? 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.880 Oh, Gal, I don't want to be sued for defamation 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.760 because Chris Jenner hobbing knock on that door in any second, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.040 be like she's probably she's like bloody Beetlejuice. You say 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.120 her name three times and she'll appear. Let's not mention 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.240 her again, okay. And our final question we have for 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.479 you is if I were to give you a plane 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.440 ticket to anywhere in the world right now, where would 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:47.720 you go? 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:53.400 England? It would be nice to see the Motherland? Oh? 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.520 Do you have heritage in England? 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.880 An association? 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:03.400 Okay? All right, yes, yes, okay. Have you been to England? No? 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:05.920 So that's why you want to go there. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.120 It's on my bucket list. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:13.760 Okay, all right, So let's recap blue Hair, Beetlejuice, and. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:15.840 England. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.120 Well, I mean, if I was a listener, I wouldn't 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.400 know how to join those three things together. But I 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.000 feel like there may be a little bit of a 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:31.520 through line. You said Motherland, you said Mummager Christianna and 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:36.000 Marge Simpsons may be the matriarch of a very famous 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.560 family who are you. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:53.480 I am Sue Art Simon's mum. So hello, Oh. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.480 That was hard not to say mum a thousand times 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.640 and also talk about things that I know that don't 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.200 make any sense if I don't know them. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.320 Ah oh, well, that's glad. That's out. Why are you here? 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.480 Why have you shown up to my job here today? 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.200 I'm here today to tell the real story of how 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.880 Art Simone became Art Simone. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.600 Oh oh, so you're here for my origin story. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.560 There'll be lots of surprises. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.400 Surprise Mom's here, all right. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.960 I want you all in your best behavior please, because 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.800 I've never had her here at my workplace. I have 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.120 no idea what she's come to present to all of 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.400 you here today, but it Strappian. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:38.040 I guess. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:46.479 All right. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.960 My mom has surprised me here live in the studio 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:55.240 to reveal the origin story of Art Simone. Okay, which 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.919 I don't know if I feel comfortable with that, but 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.000 I want to say you are probably the second most 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.880 mentioned person in Concealed with Art Simone besides Arts Simone. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.600 You have been a common theme throughout many of our 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.960 interviews and stories. You are an off duty police officer, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:19.000 You're you're my merch manager. You're my house cleaner, You're 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:24.600 my confidante, You're Mark Galpal, You're my driving instructor. You 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.240 single handedly have helped to create the beast that is me, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.280 Art Simone. What are we doing today? What are you 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:33.920 going to be revealing to the audience? Because I have 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.360 no idea. I feel like you've prepared something. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.440 Well, we're going to go on a journey from in 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.120 the womb until today. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.040 I don't know if I want to go into the 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.160 womb with you again. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:53.360 We are all right, I'm here to talk about Art Simone. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:58.280 How Art Simone became Art Simone from the very beginning. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.600 All right with me? Let's h well, I knew. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.200 Art was destined to be a star from the very 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:11.880 first moments of her life. On my routine ultrasound scan. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.240 So I've been given the happy news that I'm having 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:19.680 a boy. Then the stenographer she was having a giggle, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.760 and I thought, what on earth is she laughing at? 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.440 She said, I'm so sorry, but this is so funny. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.360 Usually the babies have got a finger up peace sign 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.520 or the rude finger. But your little one, look, his 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.600 jaw is just going NonStop. He's a little jabber jaw. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.440 Look at him. He's a chatterbox, but maybe I was hungry. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.240 No, you were perfecting the art of lip syncing. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.160 Ah okay, And I would like to know what song 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.520 that was. What was your very first lip syncing song 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.360 in the womb? 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.720 What were you listening to in nineteen ninety two. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:08:59.960 Cindy Lauper? 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.600 Okay, girls just wanted you were still a decade late 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:11.960 listening to her? Then John John again, answer, I think 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.439 I was thinking to whatever you were doing, whatever you 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:20.520 whatever gossip was coming out of your mouth. Miss all right, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.240 so I'm lip syncing in the womb. Yes, pop out. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:31.040 Now we're going to go to age three, and there's 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.679 the end of year kindergarten performance. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:38.600 That's Christmas time normally, so that will weigh in a manger. No, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.520 Santa Claus is coming to town. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:46.640 No, it wasn't Christmas scened. No, you were devastated you 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.080 did not get the lead role. You were heartbroken. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.000 Oh that's a big word to use for a free role. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.720 You were Oh God. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.120 I had to then try and sell the role that 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.200 you were given to you, which I thought, I will 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.599 have my work cut out for me. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.160 I think you're revealing to me for the first time 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.720 that that wasn't the lead, because I have always sad 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.040 it was the lead. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:16.400 No, I can't remember. I must have sold to you that. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.280 You were the lead. You told me I was the lead. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.840 No oh no, oh, my goodness, I did do a 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:24.400 good job. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.160 Did go on tell them the name of this. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.720 Character, Clarence the Clown. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.760 I thought it was fish Fingers the clown. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:37.240 No, and we had to provide your own costume. Now 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.120 this is what sold it to you. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:44.040 Your very first wig, yes, from the Melbourne Show, A 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.040 nice purple, curly, curly clown wig. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:47.680 Yes. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.120 And how was my performance? Is Clarence the clown? Be honest? 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.120 You were a happy little vegamine which. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.720 Was not the pause. That was probably the biggest role 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.440 id because after that I was a river. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.520 Yes I was. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.000 I've got the dud rolls for my entire rest of 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.080 my school life. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:11.959 Yes I did. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:17.320 Yes. Age three was also the year that I found 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.440 your love, found out about your love of makeup. I'm 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.679 talking five am in the morning. I would get up at. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.440 I want everyone to know I'm still like that. I 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.520 get up and I do a run, and then I 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.120 do my yoga, and then my key gulls, and then 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.080 I have a protein drink, and then I only eat 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.120 egg whites, and then I go and save children from 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:36.920 burning houses. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:44.280 Continue Okay, yeah, yes, yes, I would wake up. And 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:46.480 where's little Art? 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:46.840 Know? 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:47.280 Where to be? 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.079 Seen in their bedroom? Looked in the kitchen? No little 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.920 Art there? Where is art? 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.080 Are you exposing yourself as a bad parent for losing 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.040 your child. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.480 In in the bathroom? I'm just ignoring that. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.600 You're so used to be that you just don't even 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:12.199 acknowledge it anyone, Sorry, Continue. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:17.480 In the bathroom? Is little Art? Makeup case unzipped? We've 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:23.440 got foundation, We've got muscaa, we've got lipstick everywhere. It's 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.959 all over yourself and surprisingly not a hideous, horrendous mess either. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.120 Not too bad? 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.120 Are you saying? I was slaying, yes for a three 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:38.120 year old, and I've just been at that standard ever since. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:40.520 You've improved a lot. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:47.720 Oh well, that's very kind of your mother. Oh thank you. 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:53.000 You may have seen Art's competitive side on screen, dummy spitter, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.000 I can tell you it started also at the age 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.400 of three, I was summoned for a meeting with your 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.400 kinder tea tea. I was puzzled as to why I 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.960 was summoned because I knew that you were not naughty 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.360 Ata I. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:07.840 Would have been in a fight. Now, that wasn't me. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.840 The kindo teacher, in all seriousness, was very concerned about you. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.040 Little art is too hard on themselves. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:17.880 You can't be too hard on yourself. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.199 Little art is too competitive. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.320 Well, I wasn't pushing people over. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.520 But you wanted to read the kinder story at the 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.160 end of the session. You wanted to sit on the 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.160 kindo teacher's chair and read the end of session story 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.280 to the students. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:34.840 Yeah, because I've got drive. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.240 You imagine being around a little kindergarten kid who doesn't 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:38.800 want to do that. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.360 Oh no, hopers, no hopers. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:46.640 Well, you were throwing a tantrum, having a meltdown because 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.880 you couldn't read to that standard. You couldn't read a book. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.160 I'm just angry at myself, not anyone else. That's fine. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.640 Well, no, you were also competitive with another little boy 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.880 there that could read a book from start to finish. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.800 If he was cheating, he his memorized it, he could 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:08.040 write his name. I disagreed with the kinder teacher. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:08.840 Did you fight them? 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:09.640 I did? 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.719 He said, listen here I did. Kid's going to be 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:14.600 hard on themselves. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.040 I had to disagree that it is not a bad 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.760 thing to be competitive and always strive for your next goal. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.840 Oh God, you might have some parents not agreeing with you, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.600 But do they have a child who's an international drag superstar. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.200 No, no, they don't. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.080 Keep your opinions to yourself. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.720 Art is a fabulous performer, as you all know, a 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.200 great dancer. But it wasn't from her taking dance lessons, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.720 but rather from you observing them. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.080 Yeah, because you wouldn't let me. You couldn't afford it. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.960 I couldn't dance. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.320 I want to do jazz, I know for me now, 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.800 I'm so so sorry. I would imagine if you had 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.280 paid for it, I can still do it anyway. So 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:00.840 I say, we say money. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.000 Well you would have just got the jazz hands. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.200 I can already do that. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.720 Yes, yeah, no, because my sister was a dancer and 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.960 I didn't get to do it because she did all 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 the dance classes. So I would come in every Saturday 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.920 and watch, and I'd help set up the bars to 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.720 the ballet bars. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.760 Yes, then I go and eat two pies. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.240 There was never any complaints from yourself dragging you to 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.400 the drop offs and pickups because you bribe me with pies, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.320 and the sewing sessions and the behind the scene. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.440 The sewing was fun because the ladies were just bitch. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.560 It was hilarious. I love it. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.680 We've spoken about this several times because I have apologized 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:41.080 that I didn't get you dance lessons, and yes, you correct, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:47.840 it was not affordable. But you absorbed like a sponge, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.240 everything that you were seeing, everything that you were around. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.400 You stored it in your vault, didn't you. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.840 I mean not really. I don't think I'm very dance, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.960 but I took it a lot. From the costumes, yes, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.880 the stage the costume yes, yes. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.960 And also how to survive being in an RSL in 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.200 the middle of winter with no heating. I survived. I 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:13.880 got a lot of tips about that too. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:21.600 The camera might love you now, but your first time 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.000 on camera was when you were in primary school. Gramps 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.600 came to visit with his video camera, right, and you 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.360 were very much into little skits at our entry grate. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:39.200 You might remember we had a flight of brickstairs. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.360 That is very descriptive of you. Very proud. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.040 Yes, brick stairs, yes, that's very important. The flight of 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.080 brick stairs. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:45.360 Cho. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.960 Your little skit was you were going to pretend to 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:55.600 slip on a banana skin, acting you had actually badly 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:00.360 slipped on the banana peal. You had slipped and dived 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.560 face first into the bricksteps. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.720 Yeah, maybe I wanted a free nose job. Maybe it 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:07.600 was forward thinking. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.600 You're Harry Potters. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:14.760 Fully ignore me, hilarious, Like, no, I'm trying to finish 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.480 my story. This is the epitome of parents, Like we're like, 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.720 mum mam, mam, mam, ma'am mam mam, mam, mam mam. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:30.880 Yes, yes, your Harry Potter style glasses were smashed beyond repair. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:32.920 We didn't have a spare pair. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.640 No, I didn't have a spare pair of glasses until 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.399 I was an adult and I could buy them myself. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.879 Those glasses expense Yeah, specksavers two for one. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.440 No, oh my god, the luxury I found out when 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.200 you can just have multiple pairs of glasses and pick 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.159 what color you want to wear for the day. But 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.760 also I couldn't do that because my eyesight kept getting 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:55.959 worse and worse and worse and worse. Degenerative eyeballs I have, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.760 So what was the point in having two pairs of glasses? 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.440 You just have to get another one in a few months. Anyway, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.800 back to you, I'm glad I got that out. I'm 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:04.600 thinking about that a lot. 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:06.160 Are you feeling better now? 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.280 Yeah? I am actually good. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.360 So your poor little Harry Potter style glasses, one arm 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.399 was missing off them. It had to be sticky taped 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.000 back on. The lenses were smashed. I don't even think 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.919 you could see out of them. But you had to 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.879 make do with those until we did order a new 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.160 pair of glasses. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.440 Or Oshkosh Bergosh glasses. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.440 Yes, so there's actually a lot that took place at sixteen. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.480 Perhaps a pivotal moment was when I took you to 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.960 see Rocky or why I didn't actually take here? 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.399 Stop lying to everyone. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.760 You bought tickets and then said just go and I said, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.080 I don't want to go to this. That looks that's inappropriate. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.200 Why would I like that? 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.119 And then I liked it? 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.960 Yes, I knew you would like it. You're right, mother 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.720 knows best. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.240 But yeah, I did see it, and then I saw 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.280 it again, and then I saw it again, and then 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.520 I saw it again and I saw it over ten times. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.520 What I was going to ask, how many times did 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.040 you end up seeing Rocky Horror? 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.440 Ten and then also I broke in and sat in 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.359 the foyer for one of the sessions. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:16.640 You also made friends with fellow Rocky horror fans. Yes, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.280 you would wait backstage. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.760 Yes, which I don't like to admit now because I'm 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.920 very fortunate to have worked with some of these people 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.359 in my career now and know some of these people 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.760 think how embarrassing. And I was annoying one of those 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.040 annoying rats at the stage door with a T shirt 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.480 I handpainted and feather bowers, being. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.760 Like, I'm a fighter, can E sign this? Yuck? 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.399 But they gave you the time of today and the 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.600 people I always remember. That's why I always have time 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.480 for people. Because I liked I want to pay it back. 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.679 But when I saw I just fell in love with 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.080 it because I mean, deep down, I really loved sequin 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.480 and glitter and drag and all of that. And it 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.199 was so nice to be in a space and to 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:04.480 watch thousands of people watch these quote unquote freaks on stage, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.640 and to see thousands of people every single night celebrating them, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.639 was like, Wow, maybe there is a place to me. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.040 Maybe I can be who I actually am, Maybe I 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.359 can be proud of who I am, and maybe I 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.840 can put a lash on and have thousands of people 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.600 cheer for me, and I mean it's usually twenty people 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:21.080 at bingo. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.040 But I think we're doing well. I think we're doing well. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.680 Do you think it had in some way an effect 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.080 on you to come out as being gay. 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.200 It definitely did, because it was like, oh, this is okay, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.199 this is okay, there's other people there like me. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.880 It was the same year that you came out as 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.800 being gay, because you never came out. At secondary school 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.560 celebration day the very end day. 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.080 Yeah, well I went in drag yes, muck up day. Yes, Yes, I. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.639 Went in a Frank Confurter style. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:57.840 Everything was Frank Confurter. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:03.040 Yes. Inspired because then I went to science camp later on, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.280 where I was dressed as Frank and Ferter. Yes, that's 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.080 how I first learned how to sew because I was 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:09.640 trying to replicate his costumes. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.920 Speaking of that science camp, people may not know the 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.640 path that you were going to go down with your career. 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:25.320 You were very much maths, science, medically. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.560 Fair not to have a confrontation with you live on air, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.560 but also I think a lot of that. I mean 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.159 I was good at it and everything, but I was 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.399 also doing it because it was like drilled into me 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.360 that you know your grandfather, Yeah, got to be smart, 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.240 You've got to do the smart subjects. You've got to 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.760 be successful or everyone is looking on you. 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.280 It's up to you. You know. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.119 I had a lot of pressure on my shoulders, so 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.040 like there were many times throughout my teenage years and 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:51.560 right from the beginning when I wanted to do a 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.760 jazz class where I wish I could have steered off 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.120