1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: It was very sad news about Lewis. The Koala that 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: was the little Koala that we saw rescued up near 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Port mccroary by that lady Tony. She took her top 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: off and wrapped little Lewis up in there in her 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: top because that's the only thing she had Lewis. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Lewis was so disoriented, he was sort of heading back 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: into the flame. 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: And he had terrible, terrible burn injuries, and a lot 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: of things with burn injuries, which we saw at the 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Barley bombings, they get worse before they get better, and 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: for Lewis, it was beyond anything that he could deal with. 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: So they had to put him down, which. 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Is so sad. And I wept as I read it yesterday, 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to work out why I was so 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: affected by it, and I think it's because Lewis and 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: how we feel symbolizes all the hopelessness that we feel 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: at the moment, the powerlessness that we feel. It feels 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: like with our drafts, with our fires, with our smoke hays, 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: with our storms, our catastrophic behavior, that we're heading towards 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: some kind of apocalypse. It really feels like that. I 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: think these crazy extremes, our country doesn't feel like it 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: used to. It feels scary at the moment, and people 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: want help, they want guidance, they want action, and we're 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: just not getting it. And I think the woman that 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: save lewis Tony Dougherty. I think a lot of us 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: wish we were Tony because she did something, she saw something, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: and she did something and I just and I'm so 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: sorry we couldn't save him. So you know, look, I'm 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: crying now, but I've just felt this sense of despair. 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: And I'm an optimistic person, yeah, and it just really 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: hit me that we need to make this mean something 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of people millions of dollars have been 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: donated to the Paulacroary kohile A hospital there. We need 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: to repopulate that area with the surviving koalas that's their 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: breeding ground. We've lost so many. But also let's urge 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: our leaders on all sides to do something a plan, 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: because my fear is that this is the new normal 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: and no one's planning for it. To what they're doing. 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: In Sweden, they had terrible bush fires. I know they're 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: not eucalypse. They had probably pine trees. Two years ago, 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: they had terrible fires that they just couldn't put out. 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: They dropped a bomb, a bomb bomb, yet from three 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: thousand meters. It was a bomb that had no shrapnel 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: in it, and the shock wave snuffed out the fire 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: one hundred meters from where they dropped. 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: So what reddi Dare used to do? Remember the guy 48 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: with the oil rigs? 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: What did hit? 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: The oil reg would be on fire and Red A 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: Dare would go into the fire with a big bomb 52 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: and blow up the oil out the fire. 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: And of course, you know any wildlife surrounding that is 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: not going to survive a shockwave. Let's face it, those 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: animals were going to die anyway. But this is how 56 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: they put out fires. 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: But suggesting that he is, well, why. 58 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Not discuss it. They've had this for a year. Where 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: is the plan if this is our new normal, if 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: this is what we're heading towards. And I think that's 61 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: why it really hit me with Lewis's sense of despair, 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: of no one's planning. And if you are, tell us 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: how you're planning. Give us some leadership on all sides, 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Give us some leadership all those the people who all 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: the fire service people that wanted to meet with Scott 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Morrison to say let's formulate a plan. He said, no, thanks, 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: I've got my own plan. 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: I know we're hearing from these guys who have been 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: fighting fires for fifty years and they're all saying, well, 70 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: it's unprecedented, it's unprecedented. 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Let's and what let's plan. 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: This isn't about climate change, whether it's man made or not. 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: It's just about it's reality something. 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: It's reality and I'm scared we're going to have it 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: every year. And you know, let's make Lewis's death mean 76 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: something good. 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: I like seeing you. I don't see no, I don't 78 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: like seeing you like this because you're. 79 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: An Optimistice yes, I thought this is the new Australia 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: and it's awful. Join and Amanda in the morning.