WEBVTT - The Rise of Tammy Hembrow 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:06.720 Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen, 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.319 she made it big on social media when she shared 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.080 her fitness journey while pregnant. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.840 This is my first blog again, so like it might 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.200 be a little bad. I don't know if it's going 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.440 to be boring or what, but hope you guys enjoy it. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.440 Tammy's life is far from boring. The fitness influencer and 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.720 her family are Australia's answer to the Kardashians. In fact, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.280 she's even been involved in a few Kardashian scandals herself. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.680 A model explains why she had to leave Kaylie Janno's 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.120 Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.920 By sharing her life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.400 million followers and built an empire worth fifty million dollars. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.680 What has really kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.559 Over the last ten years, the internet has borne witness 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.440 to three engagements, three children, one epic wedding and now 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.840 a divorce. We are journalist Sophie and Kate Talbert and 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.800 in this special Outspoken series, we explored the real story 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.880 behind the rise of Tammy Hembro. This is going to 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.000 be our most highly requested deep dive. Every time we 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.160 put up a question box asking who you want us 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.520 to discuss, Tammy Hembro is number one. There's a definite 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.120 fascination with her and I can see why because she 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.160 has lived her life so publicly for so long now, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.200 but she's always kept it interesting for us. She's always 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.399 kept her followers on their toes, particularly when it comes 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.920 to her relationships. Oh she has now I want to 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.679 go back to the beginning. So. Tammy was born on 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.160 the twenty second of April nineteen ninety four to her parents, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.240 Natalie Stanley and Mark Hembro. So it's pretty crazy because 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.760 her parents actually met in Trinidad Tobago back in nineteen 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.360 eighty nine when her dad was acting in a TV 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.320 show called The Last Island. So Natalie was born in 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.320 Trinidad and ended up moving back to Australia with Mark. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.520 So Tammy was the youngest of her parents' three daughters. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.320 She grew up with her sisters Amy and Emily, who 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.240 are four and two years old at rest, respectively. Tammy 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.040 has described her childhood as being simple but fun. Her 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.560 family moved around a bit but she spent most of 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.480 her younger years in the Curumbin Valley, which is a 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.919 really beautiful part of the Gold Coast which actually borders 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.880 with New South Wales and it used to be part 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.640 of the Southeast Queensland Rainforest. And am I surprise people 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.720 to hear? But the town that Tammy grew up in 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.080 had just eighty people, while only a handful of kids 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.680 went to her primary school. And Tammy said that she 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.200 was naturally a very shy kid who was a barefoot 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.760 flower child. It did surprise me that she grew up 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.040 in such a small town. She doesn't really give off 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.320 small town vibes, does show now while she was a 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.560 shy kid, she grew up wanting to follow in her 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.680 dad's footsteps and become an actor. So in Tammy's book 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.760 Step Up, she described her dad as being somewhat famous 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.720 in Australia. So I had to do a stalk of 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.920 Mark Hembrose Wikipedia. And he was a guest actor in 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.440 a lot of eighties and nineties TV shows that I'm 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.720 not familiar with, as well as acting in a lot 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.960 of theater productions. The one TV role I got excited 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.880 about was he was a guest singer on Mister Squiggle. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.480 He also played Georgie Saint on fifty five episodes of 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.640 The Young Doctors in the late seventies. He was interviewed 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.040 on Matt Zakowski's podcast Hastened to That one. He you 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.040 could tell he loved talking about his acting days. Can 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.040 you say about himself? That made me that too. He 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.480 was very sweet. He seemed very eccentric. That's the vibe 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.120 that I got. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:25.680 Yeah. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.480 Well, Tammy's parents ended up getting divorced when she and 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.120 her sisters were very young, and in her book, Tammy 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.320 said her parents fought a lot, to the point where 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.360 her sisters and her don't know how they were even together. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.440 And when her parents split, Tammy and her sisters ended 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.040 up living with their dad on a farm. So the 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.960 house they lived in was this old reception venue where 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.520 they used tables as walls and they had an outside bath. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.880 After seeing the lifestyle that Tammy is living now, I 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.840 can't picture her living on a farm, but it is 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.880 quite nice to know these details about her childhood now. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.320 Tammy's mum, Natalie, went on to marry a successful businesess 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:05.119 man and had four more children, ava Scarlet, Honre and Maximus, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.920 and a lot of people have compared Natalie to Chris Jennet. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.800 That is because there has always been this comparison that 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.280 the Hembros are Australia's answer to the Kardashian family because 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.479 there's so many sisters, so many siblings, and also because 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.400 Tammy's mom looks a bit like Chris Jenny. I mean, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.680 there is an uncanny resemblance there. She has got the 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.520 dark hair, she definitely looks a lot like her. I 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.800 think the comparison between the Hembros and the Kardashians is 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.479 often made also because there was a crossover there, and 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.480 we will go into that later in this series. Now, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.400 when Tammy was twelve, she decided to move to Singapore 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.160 to be with her mum and her stepdad and her 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.359 sisters Amy and Emily had already made the move to 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.239 the island country, but Tammy saw out her primary schooling 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.280 in Queensland. So Tammy's life in Singapore was the complete 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.520 opposite of what she'd been living in rural Queensland. Her 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.920 stepdad was, as you said, Sophi, an extremely successful businessman 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.080 and they were living an absolute life of luxury, and 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.320 Tammy said it was unlike anything she had seen up 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.400 close before and had only seen in the movies. Why 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.720 am I getting crazy rich agents in my head? I 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.920 love that movie. We have been visiting Singapore since our 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.240 early teenage years, and it is such an incredible place. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:16.880 Like you say that as if we're there all the time. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.600 I think I've been there like five times. Five times 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.920 is quite a lot. I love in Singapore how you 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.080 can only drive a new car, so there's only new 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.640 cars on the road. You can't have an old bomb. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.760 A lot of people are walking around in designer gear. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.359 It's got a very rich vibe to it. In Tammy's books, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.680 she wrote a lot about what a pivotal part her 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.120 stepdad's library played in this change. She said that reading 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.520 books about successful business people in the library made her 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.400 want to become one herself. I love the fact that 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.360 they were living in such an opulent house that they 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.520 had their own library. I think that really bates a 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.279 picture of our successful He was in business. Yeah, And 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.640 it was clear that Tammy was really motivated by this 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.880 success that she saw with her stepdad and wanted to 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.240 follow in his entrepreneurial footsteps. Knowing that she wanted to 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.640 make it big for a long time, Tammy didn't know 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.919 what she actually wanted to do. And Tammy said she 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.440 began spiraling after leaving high school and started partying and 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.920 smoking weed and she had no motivation and felt lost 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.520 and depressed. And that was until she discovered meditation, which 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.839 she said changed her. So from meditation, she turned to 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.240 yoga and became an instructor and she then found her 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.760 passion for fitness and exercise in the gym. Yeah, and 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.720 when she moved back to Australia, she ended up enrolling 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.000 in a business degree at Bond University and chose to 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.440 study business for two reasons. The first was she wanted 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.760 to follow in a step dad's footsteps, and the second 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.640 was because she didn't want to work at nine to five, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.279 which a lot of us can relate to. While Tammy 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.599 was starting at university, this is when she started to 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.400 share fitness content on her Instagram. And this was at 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.760 a time when Instagram was really at its infancy stage. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.320 No one was sharing content like this, and it didn't 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.239 take Tammy long to hit fifteen thousand followers on the platform, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.000 which was a pretty substantial following back then because Instagram, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.440 as you said, it wasn't very popular. We didn't have 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.640 heaps of influencers on it like we do now, And 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.840 in the meantime, Tammy wasn't enjoying UNI. The only class 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.840 that really made sense to her was one about entrepreneurship, 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.120 and it was in that class that she decided she 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.120 wanted to be her own boss, and she figured she 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.720 may as well make the most of the following she 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.360 had and launched a business. So at nineteen, with one 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.920 month of her studies to go, Tammy dropped out of 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.120 UNI to become an entrepreneur. I don't get this. Why 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.400 would you not just stick it out for one more month? No, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.600 just to get the piece of paper. Yeah, because it 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.920 gives you so much credibility and something to fall back 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.640 on if things didn't go to plan. I remember hearing 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.960 that Sarah's day had I think one semester left or 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.040 half a year left of her teaching degree, and it 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.280 always surprised me that she didn't just complete it. Mmmm. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.679 I know, I really don't get it either. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:52.200 Now. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.720 Life had other plans for Tammy, though. Just as she 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.600 started working on her business idea, she accidentally fell pregnant 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.680 with her first son, Wolf. She was just nineteen at 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.320 the time, and was told her life was ruined. That's terrible. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.760 It is as a message to tell someone who has 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.360 fallen pregnant unexpectedly so young. Well, she really showed everyone, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.200 didn't She Now her baby daddy was Reese Hawkins, a 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.160 guy Tammy had been dating for only a few months. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.280 In a YouTube Q and A in twenty sixteen, this 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.200 is what Tammy said about her timeline with Reese. How 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.800 long have me and Race been together? 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:31.160 We've been together like three years? Well longer than three years. Wait, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.560 how's Wolf? We weren't together for that long before we 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.480 found out we're pregnant with Wolf. Actually probably just like 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.240 a couple of months. That sounds so bad, but we 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.800 were actually like so in love, like we knew we 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.640 wanted to be together forever anyway already. Like I'm pretty 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.240 sure Reese told me he was in love with me 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.719 like a week after we met, and I didn't say 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.040 it back, And I'm kidding I did. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.280 I loved watching this whole Q and A, the way 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.200 she spoke about Reese. It was so funny watching about 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.840 knowing what we all know now, just seeing how young 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.840 and in love they actually were at the time. It 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.600 sounds very old school because they actually met at a bar, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.440 which obviously everyone seemed to meet on the apps or 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.760 by sliding into DMS now and Tammy said it was 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.440 love at first sight. He's more of what she said 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:19.280 about that encounter. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:26.400 We first met at a bar. I was actually pretty intoxicated, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.520 not gonna lie. I was with a couple of girlfriends 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.880 and our friends were friends with his friends. When I 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.360 first saw him, I went up to him and I 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.600 grabbed his face, and I was like, you are so beautiful, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.760 because he was literally like the most beautiful man I 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.880 ever saw. So it was kind of love at first sight. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.760 I didn't honestly, I didn't remember the full night like 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:57.280 all that clearly. But the next weekend I was going 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.480 to a friend's party. He was actually like really good 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.520 friends with the guy who was having the party, so 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.600 he was there as well, which was just such a coincidence, 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:11.240 and we just talked on night. We hung out together 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.400 that whole night time at the party. We fell in 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.520 love from there. We were just inseparable. He was obsessed 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.040 with me, like he was not gonna lie, pretty obsessed 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.800 with me. But I was obsessed with him too. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.160 So I love that she grabbed his face and said 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.560 he was a beautiful man. Because she's right, he is 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.760 a stunning looking man, say aesthetically a beautiful man. Well. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.320 As for finding out she was pregnant with Wolf, Tammy 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.160 said that she and Reese were both in shock. According 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.600 to Tammy, she couldn't speak and Reese looked like he 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.840 was about to pass out. Once they did get over 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.880 the initial shock, though, they said that they were both 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.280 very excited now. When it came to choosing the now 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.160 infamous name, Tammy said. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.400 This, what made you name wolf? 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.760 Wolf? We were in the car one day and I 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.840 just remember throwing it out, was like wolf, and I 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.440 think Reese was like at first, like I don't think so, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.400 but then it grew on him and he was like, yeah. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.839 We had a few other names as well, but all 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.439 the names that I liked were like really out there. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.440 A wolf was one we chose. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.840 I want to know what these other names were, because 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.120 for me, particularly ten years ago or over ten years ago, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.360 wolf would have been pretty out Yeah. The other names 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.400 must have been are really out there now if you 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.880 do cast him mind. Back to twenty twenty two, Kylie 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.200 Jenner and Travis Scott originally named their son Wolf, but 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.640 later changed his name to Air, and almost two months 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.800 after giving birth, Kylie wrote on her Instagram story, FYI, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.720 our son's name isn't Wolf anymore. We just really didn't 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.880 feel like it was him. Just wanted to share because 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.319 I keep seeing Wolf everywhere. It's rumored that Kylie changed 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.000 the name because of Tammy. We will go into Tammy's 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.920 connection to the Kardashians a little bit later, but from 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.959 a top level. Kylie and Tammy became friends after she 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.920 modeled for Chloe's brand Good American, and Tammy was infamously 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.040 stretched out of Kylie's twenty first birthday party and was 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.000 also linked to Kylie's ex Tiger, So it is likely 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.840 that Kylie was well aware of Tammy's son's name, and 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.000 just hours after Kylie went public with her son's name, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.040 Tammy shared a photo of her and her son Wolf 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.959 with the caption Wolfe's mum. At the time, Tammy was 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.960 also pregnant with her third child, Posey, and she had 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.720 a lot of people trying to guess her unborn child's name. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.520 Tammy responded to one of the name guesses on TikTok 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.880 with the comment, actually like the name Stormy. At the moment. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.320 Stormy Now is, of course the name of Kylie's first child. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.120 I absolutely love the pettiness of influencer and celebrity baby 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.800 names because it's the biggest fuck you if you copy 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.640 someone's name. But in the real world it would be 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.240 taken as quite a compliment if you like someone's name. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:52.840 I don't know. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.120 I think there would still be people that would be annoyed, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.959 particularly if you had had a run in with that person. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.040 But I think the influencers are just trying so hard 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.640 to be unique. Yeah, there is an element of that too. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.839 Now back to nineteen year old Tammy. After dropping out 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.440 of UNI, she found herself pregnant and working as a 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.960 telemarketer selling solar panels while she worked on her business idea. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.280 And Tammy said that the job sucked and she would 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.040 cry after shifts because people would hang up on her. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.840 Can you imagine if you were someone that got a 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.920 call from Tammy herbroke Why do I feel like she 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.200 wouldn't be that good on the phone. I feel like 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.280 she would grumble in that situation. I think anyone would. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.400 It doesn't sound like a fun job. No, Well, she 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.200 ended up leaving that job to work in a clothing store, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.600 but she said that she was barely making ends meet 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.560 and the highlight of her day was posting about the gym, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.520 so she went five times a week even while she 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.880 was pregnant. And while most people love that she was young, pregnant, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.560 and positive, Tammy also copped criticism online for working out 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.040 while she was pregnant. She was even told that her 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.200 body wouldn't be the same after she had a baby, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.160 so she couldn't be a fitness guru. I'm really feeling 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.320 for nineteen year old Tammy here. It seems like she 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.000 is facing some very unfair judgment and criticism now. In 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.960 her book, Tammy said that when people tell her she 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.400 can't do something, it gives her more motivation. So it 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.400 seemed like this really made her more determined to prove 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.480 the naysayers wrong, and she forged ahead with the idea 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:18.200 of her own business. And ironically, Tammy's following skyrocketed when 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:23.200 she started sharing about her pregnancy and motherhood alongside fitness Now. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.400 The goal was to save enough money to launch her 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.480 business idea, a fitness ebook called Tammy Fit, and she 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.720 was motivated to launch an e book because her gym 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.440 post got so many likes that she figured a workout 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.560 guide was the perfect business idea. The initial outlay was 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.720 four hundred dollars for someone to illustrate the exercises in 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.560 the PDF, so once she saved the money, she quit 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.360 her job in retail and focused on tammy Fit full time. Now. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.920 The launch of tammy Fit coincided with another massive milestone 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.880 for Tammy, the birth of her first child, so Wolfe 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.720 was born via an emergency C section. Tammy did plan 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.240 on having a vaginal birth without medical intervention, but said 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.280 it didn't take long for her to be rolling on 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.640 the floor in pain, begging for an epidural, but instead 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.360 the best of us, doesn't it now. Unfortunately, a Wolf's 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.720 heartbeat was elevated and he was in distress, so they 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.240 opted for the emergency C section. I feel like Tammy 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.360 was really clever and strategic about the release date because 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.960 almost immediately after the birth of wolf that's when she 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.680 launched her fitness ebook, and that is when so many 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.120 eyeballs would have been on her page because so many 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.520 people were so interested in this young mum who was 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.840 having her first child at nineteen. I mean, yes, it 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.960 was a strategic move in the sense that people would 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.120 buy it, but it was really difficult for her personally 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.400 because it was such a double whammy for her. She 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.040 was dealing with being a first time mum and also 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.240 a first time business owner, so in between looking after 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.360 her newborn son, Wolf, Tammy sent out the PDFs herself. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.200 She also started earning money from Instagram promotions, and she 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.960 saved all the money she earned from the PDFs and 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.960 her Instagram promos and put it all back into her 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.240 her business. So she decided to take her PDF guides 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.520 to the next level and launched an app. At the time, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.840 no one else was doing fitness apps, and Tammy did 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.560 what her stepdad taught her capitalize, reinvest, and grow, so 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.280 all the money she earned was invested straight back into 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.200 the Tammy Fit app. We now know that app has 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.000 been downloaded over one point seven million times. It's pretty 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.800 remarkable and I don't think enough people give Tammy Hembro 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.320 credit over her business brain and just how she was 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.360 able to grow something from nothing. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:31.800 Yeah. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.680 Well, the accolades did begin rolling in for Tammy Hembro 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:39.000 and critics started calling her an overnight success. But before 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.240 she even had the chance to revel in her success, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.680 life threw another challenge at her at twenty one, she 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.080 became pregnant with her second child, sas Gear, when Wolf 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.600 was just six months old. She also now had a 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.400 million dollar business to look after. Whilst this would be challenging, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.600 I think it also worked really well for her Instagram 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.760 because people were excited that there was another pregnancy that 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.959 they could follow along with. I mean, it's a bit 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.520 confusing whether this pregnancy was planned or not, because in 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.560 Tammy's book she acted as if falling pregnant a second 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.840 time wasn't planned. But in a Q and A back 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.880 in twenty sixteen, she said this and. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.920 Saskia was planned. We were like, let's just get another 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.240 one out of the way, so then we'll has a 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.920 little friend to play with. I didn't realize how hard 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.639 it would actually be, but is so. I'm glad we 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:33.040 had both of them and the most beautiful, amazing thing 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:34.919 that's ever happened to us. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.560 I feel like Tammy would have said that Saski was 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.480 planned due to a lot of judgment online and oh 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.719 this is a mistake. Oh they haven't been together for 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.200 very long. Yeah, exactly. She probably felt like she needed 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.160 to defend it, and now years later she can say, actually, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.960 it wasn't a planned thing. Now. Tammy wanted to try 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.159 a vaginal birth with Saskia, but by the end of 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.800 her pregnancy she discovered she had a condition which created 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.920 extra amnionic fluid around the baby, so she was advised 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.000 to have another C section. Saskia was born at thirty 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.000 seven weeks and five days, and the post birth recovery 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.520 was really tough on Tammy. Her scarcely open and she 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.520 had to have it dressed and packed every day for 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.400 a month. Looking back at an old blog from this time, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.680 I was really shocked to discover the whole Saskia was 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.760 a month old, her dad, Reese Hawkins, went on a 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.399 boy's trip to Bali. Keep in mind Tammy was still 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.760 having to get her scar dressed daily, and at this 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.720 point she also had a toddler to look after. So 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.840 Red Flagg got a good move, and knowing what I 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.320 know now, it is clear that things were becoming rocky 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.200 between the pair. As a viewer, it appeared like Tammy 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.440 was doing everything while he was doing the absolute bare minimum. Yeah, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.920 in one blog I saw he was complaining about how 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.440 tired he was, Yet Tammy had been the one getting 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.600 up and doing all of the feeding with a newborn 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.800 without any help. In Tammy's book, she opened up about 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.040 this and wrote, my partner was busy when the babies 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.560 were born, so it was all down to me. I 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.919 was determined to do it all by myself, which again 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.760 highlights to me how remarkable this woman is. She's nineteen 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.080 and twenty one and she's running a business whilst looking 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:13.640 after two very young kids. Rather than slowing down, Tammy 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.760 did the complete opposite. So, with two children under two 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.040 and a million dollar business to run, Tammy decided to 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.560 launch an active wear brand, Saskia Collection, named after her 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.919 newborn daughter. A lot of people thought she was taking 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.280 on too much, but for Tammy, it was a move 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.720 that felt right. She's very smart. She knew that she 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.119 had to strike while the iron's hot. She has a 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.760 newborn daughter, there's a lot of interest around her. Let's 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.360 launch an active wear brand named after the daughter, who 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:43.320 has a unique name. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:44.480 It is genius. 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.960 It was a smart move because she had a lot 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.480 of brands who wanted to sponsor her, and she was 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.120 having to wear these brands on her Instagram even though 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.400 she didn't actually like any of the clothes and For Tammy, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.359 she had started her own business so she didn't have 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.520 to do what people told her to do, and she 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.200 was starting to I feel like she had a boss 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.679 telling her what to wear and when to wear it, 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.159