Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast Last Weep that wy Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alessandra, one
Speaker 1: of the relationship experts from Married at First Sight Australia,
Speaker 1: which launches season twelve tonight on Channel nine. Married at
Speaker 1: First Sight is in institution and so many people watch
Speaker 1: the Channel nine reality series, not just in Australia but
Speaker 1: all around the world. I'm excited to share with you
Speaker 1: my catch up with Alessandra, who is the sexy psychologist
Speaker 1: on the show. There is something so effortlessly engaging about
Speaker 1: her accent and her intelligence. There was literally no editing
Speaker 1: to this podcast, which is unusual. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: Alessandro will unpack the way in which she was picked
Speaker 1: to be on the couch working with these couples. We
Speaker 1: will chat about her relationship with John and Mel and
Speaker 1: how she feels about her connection with the other experts.
Speaker 1: I find out about what Alessandra thinks about the connection
Speaker 1: with OnlyFans and Married at fort Side, which has always
Speaker 1: fascinated me. You will get everything from how she feels
Speaker 1: about this season, what we have to learn from Meredith
Speaker 1: First Sight as viewers, and what.
Speaker 2: Makes this show so addictive.
Speaker 1: There's actually so much to talk about, with so many
Speaker 1: inside revelations. So guys, as I said, sit back and
Speaker 1: relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Meredith First
Speaker 1: Site Australia for season twelve.
Speaker 3: Hi, then can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yes, I can hear you now. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for that. Sorry about the technology. It's always a bit
Speaker 1: of a problem, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It is quote all right, no worries.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about having this chat with you because
Speaker 1: I think you do such a fantastic job on the show,
Speaker 1: and over the years I've spoken to John and Mel
Speaker 1: and now I feel like I've collected all three of you.
Speaker 2: I've collected the set.
Speaker 3: Finally, I was a missing piece.
Speaker 1: I think your role as a sexologist is really important
Speaker 1: to the show. How did you get asked to be
Speaker 1: a part of Meredith First.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think for a show when you're thinking about
Speaker 4: a marriage and a romantic relationship long term, you can't
Speaker 4: really think about that without considering the implications of the
Speaker 4: sexual connection and how that grows with the couple, or
Speaker 4: maybe perhaps doesn't and comes back to create problems in
Speaker 4: the future.
Speaker 3: So it is an integral part in my case with Matth.
Speaker 4: I think people from endemol Shine knew of my work
Speaker 4: through some previous work I had done where we had
Speaker 4: collided in the world of Emmy World in New.
Speaker 3: York years ago, and so they.
Speaker 4: At a certain point after Trish left the experiment, they
Speaker 4: were looking for somebody to come in, and somebody mentioned
Speaker 4: my name and they came to look for me and
Speaker 4: sent me a couple of seasons of the existing show,
Speaker 4: which is in Australia a much larger kind of bigger
Speaker 4: TV format than they do in other countries around the world.
Speaker 4: So I had a good grasp of what they were
Speaker 4: doing in Australia and I loved it.
Speaker 3: But I thought they.
Speaker 4: Were missing, of course, some chat around sexuality, and I
Speaker 4: also thought there were situations that could have really that
Speaker 4: could have been great for conversation that perhaps wasn't shown
Speaker 4: in previous seasons. So I was keen to kind of,
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of bad behaviors and things like
Speaker 4: that that were occurring on the experiment. I wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure that there was conversation surrounding that and not
Speaker 4: simply something that was shown but not really talked about.
Speaker 1: I'm always amazed at how you managed to make some
Speaker 1: taboo conversations sound quite normal without it sounding pervial weird.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you, that's so nice.
Speaker 4: I think, yes, I think sexuality is a topic that
Speaker 4: many people shy away from, precisely because they feel they
Speaker 4: don't know how to talk about it. They don't know
Speaker 4: if they have the right words, or if it's gonna
Speaker 4: sound like not couth or not nice or not agreeable
Speaker 4: to everyone. But I do think it's part of the
Speaker 4: human experience. So as long as you're speaking about it
Speaker 4: with respect and using correct terminology, meaning like the official terms,
Speaker 4: and then everybody can understand they're the official terms, I
Speaker 4: think adult conversation can be had, and I do think
Speaker 4: it lends to nuanced understanding of human interactions when you
Speaker 4: can include what desire, what passion, what perhaps feeling accepted
Speaker 4: or not or rejected by a potential partner, and what
Speaker 4: that does in terms of behaviors and feelings, and this
Speaker 4: all encompassing emotional roller coaster that is being in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I just think that we're getting better at being able
Speaker 1: to talk about sex. I don't know what's happened. What
Speaker 1: do you think has changed in the dynamics about the
Speaker 1: way in which we interact now that has made it
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit easier to talk about what we
Speaker 1: want sexually.
Speaker 4: Well, I do think communications make it much easier to
Speaker 4: normal what is normal meaning, you know, as you get
Speaker 4: used to listening to people chat about certain topics, they
Speaker 4: become less taboo.
Speaker 3: It's not as scary anymore.
Speaker 4: You've heard it a few times, it doesn't seem as
Speaker 4: ooh shocking, So you start normalizing something that is actually
Speaker 4: quite normal, which is our human sexual experience.
Speaker 3: So I do think.
Speaker 4: Social media, communications, just media in general, the fact that
Speaker 4: in Australia it's something that's not I don't think entirely
Speaker 4: normalized in media. I don't see it like I see
Speaker 4: it in other countries. In terms of, for instance, my
Speaker 4: profession as a sexologist. I've been working for twenty five
Speaker 4: years in South America in many countries very openly as
Speaker 4: a clinical sexologist in traditional media, and you don't necessarily
Speaker 4: see that in traditional media in Australia. So there is
Speaker 4: something about how the conversation starts opening up as you
Speaker 4: start normalizing and as we start seeping into well the
Speaker 4: traditional ways of communication, then it's no longer so foreign
Speaker 4: and people then feel like they too can chat about
Speaker 4: their experience and normalize the conversation.
Speaker 1: There must be something about Meredith First Sight though, that
Speaker 1: because it's so so successful in Australia, that it has
Speaker 1: penetrated in a way that it's opening a conversation that
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen before. Because you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of reality shows across Australia, and very successful ones, but
Speaker 1: nothing now beats Meredith First Sight when it comes to
Speaker 1: the ratings, and I think that Australia is mildly obsessed
Speaker 1: with this show. What do you think it is about
Speaker 1: this show? In particular? That means that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if people say that I like it or they think
Speaker 1: it's trashy, everyone still turns up and they're fascinated by it.
Speaker 4: It's like we're all the little mosquito on the wall
Speaker 4: that gets to see what's actually happening behind the closed
Speaker 4: door because there are no other TV shows, or there
Speaker 4: are no other places where you can see, you know,
Speaker 4: human interaction when people are trying to build a romantic connection.
Speaker 3: What does that look like how do people act, how
Speaker 3: do their insecurities flourish?
Speaker 4: And their behaviors you're able to actually see things play out,
Speaker 4: and it's much easier to identify behaviors when you're able
Speaker 4: to see it play out other than simply being described.
Speaker 4: So you start seeing behaviors that are either great and
Speaker 4: making things function correctly, or perhaps not so.
Speaker 3: Great, and then you can be like, oh, well.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is something I should refrain from because I
Speaker 4: see all these consequences. So I think there's something to
Speaker 4: it that's a little bit of a mirror, not only
Speaker 4: to the participants' behaviors, but to all of our behaviors
Speaker 4: and relationships. You start comparing yourself, do I do better?
Speaker 4: Am I worse at this? Do I really struggle in
Speaker 4: this topic? Can I relate to that? So I think
Speaker 4: there's all of that that goes into it as well,
Speaker 4: and it's the one place we've all seen and can
Speaker 4: go like, oh did you see this?
Speaker 3: What do you think? And those conversations open up.
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating for myself because I think we
Speaker 1: get lazy in the dynamics of what we want out
Speaker 1: of our relationship, and we can out even if you're
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm a bad person, or I'm
Speaker 1: not saying a good person or a bad person does this.
Speaker 1: But if you get lazy in a relationship, you toxic
Speaker 1: behavior can surface because you start trying to with unknowingly
Speaker 1: sort of manipulate your partner in a weird way.
Speaker 2: And then when you watch Meret.
Speaker 1: At first sight, you think to yourself, oh, I've learned
Speaker 1: terms like gas lighting and love bombing and ghosting and
Speaker 1: all these sorts of terminology, and you start to see
Speaker 1: some of it in yourself and you go, I think
Speaker 1: that's disgusting it, and do I do that? And the
Speaker 1: self reflection is also important.
Speaker 3: The self reflection, I think is incredibly important.
Speaker 4: And I think the conversations that can be generated around
Speaker 4: that a couple watching together, for instance, Yes, of course
Speaker 4: you might be really enthralled by the drama, like who
Speaker 4: is it is? It is? It is an entertainment show
Speaker 4: and it is reality. So one must not lose sight
Speaker 4: of the context from which we're speaking. But within that
Speaker 4: the interactions are the real interactions of those participants at
Speaker 4: that moment. Faced with that challenge in that I get
Speaker 4: staged in a relationship and that is something that anybody
Speaker 4: who's watching can identify with and do the compare and
Speaker 4: contrast and have conversations around. So I do think that
Speaker 4: there's a space there that is really potent in terms
Speaker 4: of using it as a tool not only of entertainment,
Speaker 4: but then also have a little self reflection and you know,
Speaker 4: tool gathering and growth that can occur not only for
Speaker 4: the participants, and many of our participants talk about how
Speaker 4: much they've learned in the experience of the experiment, regardless
Speaker 4: of whether they have found love or not, but I
Speaker 4: think that happens also to many people at home, not
Speaker 4: only to the participants going through the experience.
Speaker 1: I've met a lot of ex merit at first site
Speaker 1: people along the way, and I think what's really interesting
Speaker 1: in about there's a common thread that I've noticed when
Speaker 1: I've met them, and it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: psychologist now in all of them. They're a little bit
Speaker 1: more heightened with them when it comes to relationship, when
Speaker 1: it comes to communication actually, and I've noticed that thread
Speaker 1: over time. You know, we're now sitting with so many
Speaker 1: seasons under our belt, and so many of these people
Speaker 1: have gone out into the world. Do you think that
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with the three relationship
Speaker 1: experts who can maybe unearth things and make people or
Speaker 1: make them think more about what they're getting themselves involved in.
Speaker 5: Well, I think certainly, I hope that we're able to
Speaker 5: help guide when we see behavior that is not healthy
Speaker 5: or is not serving the participants to their end goal
Speaker 5: that they have voice to us that they're.
Speaker 3: Wanting to achieve.
Speaker 4: Of course, I hope that they're able to take that
Speaker 4: information and that guidance and run with it and make
Speaker 4: the adjustments they need to if they need to. So
Speaker 4: we always hope for that, But it really is their journey,
Speaker 4: and it really is about themselves putting their experience out there,
Speaker 4: and it takes such bravery.
Speaker 3: I don't think hits for anyone.
Speaker 4: I really admire our participants just simply in the sheer
Speaker 4: bravery it takes to allow yourself to put up that
Speaker 4: mirror and look at yourself, not simply in the privacy
Speaker 4: of your home and understanding and having self awareness, but
Speaker 4: in front of the world. So that requires quite the
Speaker 4: amount of confidence and bravery, I believe. But I do
Speaker 4: think it is that they are actually being able to
Speaker 4: see their behavior the things that you don't notice about yourself.
Speaker 4: The camera doesn't miss, so it is there is that
Speaker 4: even in the moments when one feels that one a
Speaker 4: handle the situation, you.
Speaker 3: Don't always know.
Speaker 4: And I always think of in terms of this, and
Speaker 4: even for us as experts, if you're in a relationship
Speaker 4: in real life going to see an expert, a therapist
Speaker 4: or whatnot, that person never sees your actual interaction in
Speaker 4: a fight through a discussion with your partner, unless you
Speaker 4: have a blowout in the session. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: if you're coming in with a crisis, you will be
Speaker 4: telling a story of what happened. It's very different to
Speaker 4: what we get to see here Here.
Speaker 3: It's not simply.
Speaker 4: One imagining how one person gave a look or a glare,
Speaker 4: or the tone or the words or everything that you
Speaker 4: can take in with nonverbals that you see when you're
Speaker 4: actually watching the image with the audio and watching it.
Speaker 3: Play out, and that's what happens in maths.
Speaker 6: So it's much more vivid and it's much more a
Speaker 6: picture of what actually happens, and that can be quite
Speaker 6: confronting when you've never seen yourself under those stressful situations reacting.
Speaker 1: You think about the way in which we are in
Speaker 1: our own relationships as well, and I think that most
Speaker 1: couples will relate to what I'm about to say. But
Speaker 1: in a fight in conflict, you will say, but you
Speaker 1: said this, and then the fight becomes about who said.
Speaker 2: Was yes, And it always turns up as being the inflection.
Speaker 1: To me, it's always hang on a sec you might
Speaker 1: have said that, but the tone is what the tone
Speaker 1: will way, you know what I.
Speaker 4: Mean, on the underlying that I gathered from that little
Speaker 4: inflection in your ConA voice.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've gone down a rabbit hole over that tone
Speaker 1: that you had. And so when I ask you why
Speaker 1: did you say this and you repeat it back to
Speaker 1: me in a different tone, you kind of feel gaslighted.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a part of all of
Speaker 1: us that would love to have cameras and have the
Speaker 1: ability to play the replay fights.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Reefly and the replay would be amazing or
Speaker 4: maybe not, but it is part of it is part
Speaker 4: of this experience here, So it does make it very distinct,
Speaker 4: and I think, yeah, you don't have other experiences in
Speaker 4: television or really in life. For you, you're able to
Speaker 4: be the little mosquito on the wall and begin to
Speaker 4: what other people are doing and how they're doing it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, what about yourself?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: You must grow every season, you must find new ways
Speaker 1: to approach these couples. Was there anything in particular that
Speaker 1: you learned from last year that's helped you that's changed
Speaker 1: the way in which you've turned up for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, it hasn't. I wouldn't say from last year
Speaker 3: to this year.
Speaker 4: I think when I first joined the experiment in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty for the season that aired in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: I really think it took the entire experience of filming,
Speaker 4: waiting for production to end, for the show to go
Speaker 4: on air, and waiting for it to be completely wrapped
Speaker 4: for me to really understand the dynamic of what maths meant.
Speaker 4: And I think I've grown and understood it better every year.
Speaker 3: I think it's a matter for.
Speaker 4: Me personally of trusting at face value. For instance, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of talk around what is the motivation for
Speaker 4: our participants to be on the experiment, and I, of course.
Speaker 3: I'm not blind. I don't live in a different planet.
Speaker 4: I know that many people are going to be enthused
Speaker 4: with the popularity of the show and the possibilities for
Speaker 4: careers and whatever social media and exposure can provide. But
Speaker 4: regardless of that, I am enthused with the person in
Speaker 4: front of me who's telling me whatever story they're telling me,
Speaker 4: true or not believe They're not Number one because I
Speaker 4: think if they actually find someone or meet someone that
Speaker 4: they really like, they will lean into the possibility of love.
Speaker 4: Who wouldn't in whatever circumstance that shows up. And number
Speaker 4: two because I think, regardless it's the experience of people watching,
Speaker 4: and if they're going to be themselves and they're going
Speaker 4: to be committed to the experience and they're going.
Speaker 3: To attempt to really take part in.
Speaker 4: The experiment, then that's still going to be helpful even
Speaker 4: for them and this.
Speaker 3: One or future relationships.
Speaker 4: So I don't really focus on motivations because I'm not
Speaker 4: a soothsayer, but I focus at face value on the
Speaker 4: situation in front of me because I know it represents
Speaker 4: a situation of so many other people who will be watching.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I've always wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: And I'm honestly this is so exciting that I even
Speaker 1: have you to have this conversation, But what do you
Speaker 1: think as a sexologist is the connection between Maretith First
Speaker 1: Sight and then Only Fans, because we've now made that
Speaker 1: such a thing that even in the first episode, one
Speaker 1: of the bride sister husband in her fowls you know,
Speaker 1: I promise you I'm here for love. I'm not here
Speaker 1: for only fans. But there is this connection that's now created, Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think that relationship? Is there a tie
Speaker 1: somehow between the time.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think the connection is with their sexuality
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: I think that's just.
Speaker 4: A possible part of what goes on and Only Fans
Speaker 4: and an interesting part for those who want to.
Speaker 3: Make bank through Only Fans.
Speaker 4: And I think what it is is again, it's a
Speaker 4: platform and the opportunity and what some people view as
Speaker 4: a way that they find interesting to put themselves out
Speaker 4: there or make some money. And I think it's totally
Speaker 4: valid for whoever wants to do that. There's a reason
Speaker 4: it exists, and it's a great platform for a lot
Speaker 4: of people. But I don't think it's something that has
Speaker 4: anything to do with the sexuality, because not everybody who's
Speaker 4: on OnlyFans is necessarily playing up the sexuality. Although it
Speaker 4: is quite a popular thing to do on there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely you know before you go, I really wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you as well about the relationship that you have
Speaker 1: with Melan John. How do you describe the dynamics between
Speaker 1: the three of you.
Speaker 4: I think we have so much fun and so much
Speaker 4: respect for each other as professionals, and I would say
Speaker 4: the most important part for me is the respect as professionals.
Speaker 3: I know we have each other's backs. I know how
Speaker 3: when we sit down.
Speaker 4: To discuss, you know, situations or crisis or participants or whatever.
Speaker 4: I can see how their mind is working and it's
Speaker 4: very much aligned.
Speaker 3: And I love that. And they are so fun and so.
Speaker 4: Lovely and just such great co workers and friends after
Speaker 4: all this time, so no, I feel happy and blessed
Speaker 4: to have them as part of the team.
Speaker 2: Do you drink a lot of car fee to stay up?
Speaker 4: I'd like a lot of coffee in regular nice yes.
Speaker 4: And when we're filming, are you kidding? And then I
Speaker 4: get home and especially after like a dinner party, which
Speaker 4: are they're very intense, Yeah, and we're they're like listening
Speaker 4: to everything and it's all blaring in our ears and whatnot.
Speaker 4: I get home and then it's like from the coffee
Speaker 4: to the wine, because you have to somehow like wind
Speaker 4: it down.
Speaker 2: So you've got to wind it down.
Speaker 4: Wind you have to wine it literally wind it down.
Speaker 3: With a hot top bath and like, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: so tomorrow's a new day.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some nice eye out there. Because we're
Speaker 1: up to season twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, people are going to be talking.
Speaker 1: About couples getting mismatched, and right from the get go
Speaker 1: we see some couples that really struggle. What do you
Speaker 1: have to say about those claims that you know produces
Speaker 1: a mixing people up just to create drama.
Speaker 3: No, that's not my experience. We What I would say
Speaker 3: is that the.
Speaker 4: Production cast very big personalities. So they are very big personalities,
Speaker 4: all because we're doing a reality.
Speaker 3: TV show and to be entertaining.
Speaker 4: So of course the people that are picked to be
Speaker 4: part of the experiment, aside from everything else that they
Speaker 4: have to go through, there also I'm sure considered for
Speaker 4: their personalities and how outspoken they can be or whatnot.
Speaker 4: But aside from that, no, like really the intent is
Speaker 4: for them to potentially get along, and we base it
Speaker 4: off of what the participants tell us. And I think
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this for this season watch out because
Speaker 4: I think the way that they are presenting.
Speaker 3: You see much.
Speaker 4: More what is told to us by the participants about themselves,
Speaker 4: their character, what they want, what they don't want, how
Speaker 4: they would act or not act does not necessarily align
Speaker 4: with what they actually do when confronted with circumstance. So yeah,
Speaker 4: so there's only so much you can do. And again
Speaker 4: I take it at face value and I work with that,
Speaker 4: and then it's up to the participants to.
Speaker 3: Have that a line or not.
Speaker 1: I had a couple from this year, say, the guy
Speaker 1: messaged me on social media to say I'm doing merit
Speaker 1: at first sight and I don't know whether I should quit,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know you as a stranger,
Speaker 1: and we had this conversation about it, and I said, look,
Speaker 1: you know what, you've signed.
Speaker 2: Up to a reality show.
Speaker 1: Last year, Tory and Jack they joined this show and
Speaker 1: Jack was not initially attracted to Tory, but they persisted
Speaker 1: through the experience and he gave himself up to it
Speaker 1: and found love. He is still with Tory, even though
Speaker 1: Australia had a lot to serve about that relationship last year.
Speaker 1: But I said to this man, what's the harm in
Speaker 1: you committing to this don't throw don't cut your nose
Speaker 1: off to spite your face, even though you might not
Speaker 1: be sexually attracted. Or she may have said she doesn't
Speaker 1: like certain things that you, of course have said that
Speaker 1: you liked.
Speaker 4: Yes, And it's quite difficult because they you know, they
Speaker 4: go through so many interviews, and yes, you would expect
Speaker 4: them to be gained for a variety of things, and
Speaker 4: then sometimes they're not. So I think it's part of
Speaker 4: what makes the experience interesting. And again, it's one thing
Speaker 4: how you self describe. It might be quite different to
Speaker 4: actually observe yourself and then and then describe what you're observing,
Speaker 4: and maybe they don't always match.
Speaker 2: Up exactly right. You know, I have to let you go.
Speaker 1: I'm over time, but I just am obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: The last question that I honestly you have no idea.
Speaker 1: The last question I ask everyone who's been on the podcast.
Speaker 1: This is episode five hundred and thirty, so I've been
Speaker 1: doing this. I've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 1: What's something from behind the scenes of this season, something
Speaker 1: that maybe we won't watch on television, but from your
Speaker 1: experience of filming, kind of like a behind the scenes
Speaker 1: secret for season twelve. Oh my gosh, did anything did
Speaker 1: you fall over? Did you drop your coffee because someone
Speaker 1: said something? Was there anything unusual that happened that I
Speaker 1: remember the season?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm trying to remember from this season if there
Speaker 4: was like anything that's very cold nights, very late nights
Speaker 4: that I can't think of anything that's a good secret,
Speaker 4: how boring.
Speaker 3: Well, the latest, of course, is like the sun coming up.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That happens for reunion quite often.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever made it back without like
Speaker 4: at least listening to the birds chirping, get out. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: that's that's basically reunion. The finale experience is always a
Speaker 4: very because it's the entire cast and it's going through everything.
Speaker 4: It's it's a very long night of filming. So I
Speaker 4: don't know that that's quite the big secret, but I
Speaker 4: couldn't think of a good one for you know that.
Speaker 1: I think that's hilarious because we'll marry that up with
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you've moved from coffee to wine,
Speaker 1: so we just think of you exactly what do you
Speaker 1: call the drink, and that it's not even a hair
Speaker 1: of the dog.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, Then when I get home. Then it's
Speaker 4: a memosa for breakfast. It's a little champagne with my
Speaker 4: leg something. After the finale.
Speaker 2: Says, oh my god, anyway, look after yourself. Just so
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this from the Channel
Speaker 1: nine launch, but I reminded you that I met you
Speaker 1: once at.
Speaker 2: A bar and I bought you a shot and.
Speaker 1: We were at We couldn't work out which because I
Speaker 1: said to you was at a gay bar and you
Speaker 1: were like, I don't remember being at a gay bar,
Speaker 1: but I think.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding not? It must have been the Palm
Speaker 3: or like eight.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: We were standing at the bar and my friend next
Speaker 1: to me, he's quite well known. He's Farmer Dave from
Speaker 1: Big Brother. He has this long, beautiful hair. Anyway, he
Speaker 1: said to me, that woman next to you is stunning,
Speaker 1: and I go, she's.
Speaker 2: The lady from the married at first and he was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we need to talk to her, buy
Speaker 2: her a drink.
Speaker 1: So you were there with your friend and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, can we buy you a shot?
Speaker 2: You said, yes, we had a shot.
Speaker 1: You mainly talked to my friend, Farmer Dave, who's very engaging.
Speaker 2: But it was so amazing to.
Speaker 1: Meet you in real life and see how open you
Speaker 1: are as a person.
Speaker 2: I know, we get to see you on television, but you.
Speaker 1: Were a We're enigmatic and so gorgeous and so kind
Speaker 1: and so generous with your time, and I just think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that you're an amazing person.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're the best. You just made my day.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you so much for saying that.
Speaker 3: That's lovely.
Speaker 2: It was fun anyway, Alex is going to kill me
Speaker 2: from you. I'm gotta let you go. That's the best day.
Speaker 4: Big hugs, see you, bye bye bye.