1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jenes. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: You loved cult favorite books The Dry and Force of Nature. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: We've got great news for you. The third and final 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: book of the Aaron Folk series, Exiles, has been released. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Jane Harper is one of my favorite authors, The Lost Man, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: the Survivor. Everything she writes is absolutely brilliant. You just 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: cannot put these books down. So, Jane Harper, we're thrilled 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: to talk to you today. Hello Jane, Hello, thank you 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: for having me look at you goo. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: You've made the jump from being a journalist to an author, 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: like a mystery writer. I guess is that something you've 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: always wanted to do since you a little. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: It is I'd always wanted to write, So I was 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: working as a journalist, but the thing I enjoyed most 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: about it was a writing part. So I wrote The Dry, 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: which is my first level, while I was working as 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: a journalist, really with no expectation that it would ever 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: get published. It was just something I wanted to do 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: for myself. And then it did get published and I 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to write more books, which is fantastic. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's my dream career really. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: And not just got published and number one book and 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: everyone loved it made into a fantastic film starring Eric Banner, 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: which was an extraordinary accolade that your work is now 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: being picked up by filmmakers. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: The film was so great as well. I absolutely loved 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: what they did with the dry adaptation, and most important 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: thing to me, readers enjoyed it too. I had so 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: many positive comments from reader who loved Eric Banner, Cassisaron 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Fork and the way they stayed so true I think, 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to the heart and the fear of the book and 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: captured it so beautifully on screen. So I absolutely loved it. 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: And the Driver the movie, you just had that great 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: menace running through it the whole time. It was always 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: and having read the book and then watching the movie, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: I knew what was going to happen, but I was 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: still felt myself on edge. 38 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I know I did too. I mean I knew what 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: was going to happen as well, and I thought it 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: was I was on the edge of my city. So 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I thought, that did such a great job. And I thought, 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, Eric Banners fok was just such a beautiful 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: casting and he's so beloved and he did such a 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I think, just a fantastic job of bringing everything that 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: was so good about that character and the readers had 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: really responded to and bringing back to the screen in 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: such a perfect way. 48 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: Many Australian writers are now enjoying and you're part of 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: it too, the Australian noir. 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: I know that. 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: Chris Hammer. I actually went to UNI with him. Look 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: what I'm doing and he's writing these extraordinary books that's 53 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: just not fair, but yours too, Stories from true Australia, 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: really capturing the outback, the cities, the stories of Australia. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: It's a wonderful time to be an Australian writer, it 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: really is. 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Australia is such a gift 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: for writers. I mean, in my new book Exiles, I 59 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: got to go to South Australia's a wine country, which 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: I have to say was one of the best research 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: trips I've ever done. That was a lot of fun, 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, going out out to this kind of lush 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: countryside and meeting these people who are just living their 64 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: best lives. You know, it was, it was. It's such 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: a joy to be able to, I think, capture those 66 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: parts of the country you know, on the page, and 67 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I really sort of celebrate. I think a lot of 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: the Yeah, the beauty of our landscape and things that 69 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: make us, make us what we are. 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: This apparently is going to be the final book for 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: Aaron Fork. As I said, We've had the dry, We've 72 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: had Force of Nature, and this one Exile. Why have 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: you decided to wrap him up? 74 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I decided to very early on this Exiles was going 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to be the last four book. The reason for that 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: is because I think, you know, in fiction, especially, having 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: a strong ending is as important as having a strong start. 78 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: And you know, Fork has given so much to me. 79 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to give him the ending he deserves. So 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: I went in knowing that this would be kind of 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: the book that really, you know, I think gave his 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: character what what he needed. And it was a lot 83 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: of fun to write. It's kind of a three hundred 84 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: page call bio letter to him because I loved I 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: loved the character, and I loved writing Exiles, and it 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: was all the more special for me. I think knowing 87 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: that this was you know, the fun or the final 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: one for him. 89 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: And could you see these being developed into movies? Are 90 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: like The Drive? Can that be a things? Eric Keane? 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the great news is that force of nature, 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: which is the second and four film is already in 93 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: you well into production. They've finished filming. They filmed that 94 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: in Victoria over winter, so now that's sort of in 95 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: the editing phase, which is really exciting. I've got to 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: go out on set and see a little bit of 97 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: an action which was so so great. It looks fantastic. 98 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the finished product. So fingers crossed. Maybe, 99 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, if this sort of the team feels it's right, 100 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: and maybe we'd see Exiles maybe as a film as well. 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to see that happen, don't we. 102 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Don't tell yourself the ending, okay, don't want you to 103 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: be alarmed in the movie theater. What's going to happen here? 104 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: That's right, Jane, don't tell Jane how it ends. Exiles 105 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: is out now, available at all Good bookstores and online. 106 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: Jane Harper, thank you so much, Thank you so much.