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Speaker 1: As we know, you might have heard that divers have

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Speaker 1: been conducting surveys at this side of the new ship

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Speaker 1: lift in Darwin and yesterday they found an unexploded ordinate

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Speaker 1: and declared an exclusion zone around Darwin Harbor. Now joining

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Speaker 1: me to tell us more about this discovery, as the

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Speaker 1: executive director of Darwin Harbor Infrastructure Projects, Shane Delman. Shane,

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Speaker 1: you might have to just tell me how to pronounce

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Speaker 1: your last name. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, It's Shane Dlhelm.

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Speaker 1: Oh, good on you, Shane. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Shane, tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about this unexp exploded ordinate. Is it just an unexploded bomb?

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Speaker 2: Look, Katie, we're still looking into Its contacted Navy and

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Speaker 2: the clearance diving team and we're working through that. We

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Speaker 2: identified an object that might have been a possibility. We

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Speaker 2: then took that to Defense. They look at it and say, look,

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Speaker 2: it is possible. It isn't confirmed that it's a UXI

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Speaker 2: or unexploded audit at this point in time, but for

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Speaker 2: public safety reasons, we obviously need exclusion zone. So this

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Speaker 2: is all part of the preparation works the Data Ship

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Speaker 2: Year project prior to works commencing on site.

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Speaker 1: All right, So is this a fairly normal thing that

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Speaker 1: you would expect to happen, you know, when you are

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Speaker 1: sort of dealing with construction in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we do seem to have quite a few of

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Speaker 1: these unexploded ordinates around at different times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, it's for dipple departner, infrastructure planning logistics. It's

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Speaker 2: not unusual. It's not that frequent either that it does

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Speaker 2: occur from time to time. I think in my time

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Speaker 2: in the top end in construction, this is supposed a

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Speaker 2: third or fourth find, so it's not that frequent, but

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Speaker 2: it does occur from time to time. It is generally

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Speaker 2: planned for in the event that we do find something,

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Speaker 2: so we've got appropriate measures and procedures in place to

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Speaker 2: ensure that we do with these things in a safe manner.

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Speaker 1: And how long do you anticipate that that exclusion zone

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Speaker 1: is sort of going to remain in place or what's

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Speaker 1: a situation with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So look, we're working with the Navy at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The clearance dive teams are typically into state, so they're

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Speaker 2: talking with their teams today and trying to get a

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Speaker 2: bit of a plan as to when they can deploy

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Speaker 2: to then come and have a look at it and

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Speaker 2: determine whether it is the UXO or not. Then depending

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Speaker 2: on what that scenario, producers will then determine our next

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Speaker 2: course of action. So at this stage, I'd suggest at

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Speaker 2: least a few days, if not a week, we'd hope

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Speaker 2: to wrap it up inside.

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Speaker 1: A week and do you reckon that's going to cause

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Speaker 1: much of an impact for people in the area, No.

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Speaker 2: Katie, In the proximity of the multi years of barge ramp,

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Speaker 2: it's not heavily frequented by harbor users. Most people that

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Speaker 2: leave East boat Ramp will traditionally go straight out from

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Speaker 2: the boat ramp and around Catalina Island. It would only

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Speaker 2: affect those potentially wanting to run between the barge ramp

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Speaker 2: and cataline Or Island, which on certain tides isn't possible.

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Speaker 2: Well anyway, so it should be a very minimal impact,

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Speaker 2: I would think.

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Speaker 1: And is it going to be a difficult sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, difficult situation in terms of retrieving.

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Speaker 2: It, Well, again, it's really dependent on what Navy finds

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Speaker 2: and determines. If it is an unexploded ordnance, then there's

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Speaker 2: a bit of a process to deal with that and

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Speaker 2: determine the safest way to resolve the matter. Removal of

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Speaker 2: sometimes an option, sometimes it's not. So it just depends

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Speaker 2: on what is the safest option, assuming it is at

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Speaker 2: this point in time, it's not confirmed.

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Speaker 1: And Shane, what other items are you guys expecting to

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Speaker 1: find or what are they searching for at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so basically we do sidescan surveys, magnetomola surveys, which

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Speaker 2: is effectively a toe behind a vessel metal detector, and

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Speaker 2: we look for the ferrous and non ferrous objects and

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Speaker 2: that can sometimes even be rocks with a bit of

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Speaker 2: magnetic set of property to it. Today we found a

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Speaker 2: range of things. Some are you minium bent and obscured object,

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Speaker 2: some beer cans, rifle cartridges, spent rifle cartridges not unusual

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Speaker 2: as well. For the top end, we've found lengths of

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Speaker 2: chain and rope attached to them, and shackles and the like,

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Speaker 2: bits of steel, a car tire, So those sorts of

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Speaker 2: things are not unusual. UXO is anticipated so that we

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Speaker 2: have a plan in place, but it's not very frequent.

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Speaker 1: Well, it certainly sounds very interesting, Shane. We really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks so much for having a

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Speaker 1: quick chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Katie, thank you