WEBVTT - What Are The Rules For A Friend Vacation? 🏖️

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast brought to you by Cata.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Flex and Froom's podcast edition. You know how

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<v Speaker 2>much we love to be here. Today's episode it's brought

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<v Speaker 2>to you by Froomy's an article that you read by someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Greed, James Greed. You're not sure if I'm saying that correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it isn't grage. But that's not correct English, lad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And he talks all about how we all participate

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<v Speaker 3>in surveillance culture. If you follow Flex and I on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in surveillance culture. If you're taking a photo of

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<v Speaker 3>somebody on the bus, you are an op.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it correlation versus causation? Again, like, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I happen to be observing you, am I surveilling you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's a bit of a fine line.

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<v Speaker 3>But this dude's argument is that any kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>online sleuthing, if you're looking through a burner account at

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<v Speaker 3>someone's story, that's surveillance culture. But what I got out

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<v Speaker 3>of the article is someone actually articulating how I feel

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<v Speaker 3>about people who take videos of people when they don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look up the episode Flex and.

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<v Speaker 3>Frooms Bully, you'll find out a story that I told

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<v Speaker 3>a few months ago about one of my Instagram accounts

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<v Speaker 3>that I really love putting up a video this woman,

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<v Speaker 3>a man, woman and a man in a pub rubbed

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<v Speaker 3>me right up the wrong way, and I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that goes back to surveillance culture and how I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's bullshades.

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<v Speaker 2>And we didn't talk about it in this episode, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is an important time to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that you could google this, but this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>a panopticon state. What that means is the panopticon is

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<v Speaker 2>a disciplinary concept brought to life in the form of

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<v Speaker 2>a central observation tower placed within a circle of prison cells.

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<v Speaker 2>From the tower, a guard can see every cell and inmate,

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<v Speaker 2>but the inmates can't see into the tower. Prisoners will

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<v Speaker 2>never know whether or not they're being watched. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when we ended up talking about this idea of a state,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we get further into this idea of being

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<v Speaker 2>in a panopticon because I often tell you that the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite everywhere, we're constantly being watched, even if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we are. And that is the spookiest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm sure we talked about it a ton of times,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll go into certain venues, or we'll go out

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<v Speaker 2>on an out and then I'll look in my phone

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll have so many dms people sending me videos

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<v Speaker 2>they've taken of me. Now I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw you at this place. Just earlier before

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<v Speaker 2>we came into film, I went in for a little

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<v Speaker 2>snacky into a drive through. The person who served me

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<v Speaker 2>at the drive through was like, oh my goodness, I

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<v Speaker 2>recognize you from Instagram? Can I get an autograph? Gave

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<v Speaker 2>for an autograph, got back what is you? Autograph? It

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<v Speaker 2>on like a nap on the receipt said flex loves you,

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<v Speaker 2>because who has an autograph these days? Then I got

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<v Speaker 2>to my phone and the sister of the person who

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<v Speaker 2>owns said fast food restaurant DMed me to say that

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<v Speaker 2>she heard that I was in at the fast food restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, that's so many degrees of surveillance that just happened,

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<v Speaker 2>And so isn't that spooky? And how many times have

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<v Speaker 2>I inadvertently told you that you know, you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be careful how you're acting through me because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know when people are watching. And then you'll tell me, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have to behave any differently, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just waiting for it to come right around. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just hoping that for the next five years we

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<v Speaker 3>continue to do this show so that when I am

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<v Speaker 3>found out for doing anything unsavory in anyone's premises, we

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<v Speaker 3>can both shoulder the load.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>The bustsogether this is flex and frooms on DA.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't miss any chance or any time to put

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<v Speaker 2>rules around what should be a rule free adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't have the morals that I like, our

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<v Speaker 3>morals didn't match, wouldn't be into it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a bit of fun. There are some rules,

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<v Speaker 2>guidelines for how we should do stuff, And this one

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<v Speaker 2>in particular came across with somebody talking about the rules

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<v Speaker 2>they had for friend vacation and I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean, rules like they completely chill what? And

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<v Speaker 2>he started the videt and I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to his rules. He said sleep is off the table,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a pretty fair go because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna go on vacation with someone, at the

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<v Speaker 2>very least you need similar sleeping patterns. Huh. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to be terrible about vacations when I was a bit younger,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a big sleeper. If I can clock out

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<v Speaker 2>for twelve hours, I'm out. I don't like getting up early.

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<v Speaker 2>I like staying up late, and so I would be

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<v Speaker 2>happy to start the day at two. That's not fair

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<v Speaker 2>to seven am people who want to get up and go, go, go,

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<v Speaker 2>go go. And while I don't feel any issue with

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<v Speaker 2>them leaving me, they obviously want to hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>their friend. Yeah, And I was like, Eh, anyway. His

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<v Speaker 2>other three are, don't take anything personal if you're broke,

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<v Speaker 2>don't come and expect messiness in the room. I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going away on friend vacation, probably about a month,

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<v Speaker 2>give or take maybe two. Have you thought about your rules?

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<v Speaker 3>September seventeenth, going to Europe for the first of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna meet you at the airport, meet and great

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<v Speaker 2>in the departure term.

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<v Speaker 3>Naw. Yes, I'm going away to Europe for the first

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<v Speaker 3>time with my friend Pauline. She's one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Her and I are very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, she how would I describe it?

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<v Speaker 3>She's very flaky self admitted flaky parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>She we go flaking in what way?

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<v Speaker 3>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>In a you organize something, she's going to bail in.

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<v Speaker 2>All plants need to be loosely arranged to accommodate for

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<v Speaker 2>her not wanting to do them later on. What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>So she has a concept called Pauline time, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't believe that time exists, so she just shows

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<v Speaker 3>up when she shows up. Didn't have social media for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. Would go weeks between talking to any

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<v Speaker 3>of our friends. Gota, so everyone no one knows where

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline is. Yeah, so I don't know how that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>work when you go to group the two of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But my rules would be independence first. So I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of an independent person. So long as we're just going to

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<v Speaker 3>end up in the same room for little sleepy times,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy for you to go do whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so you don't want to travel with something. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to travel physically with someone but not have an

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<v Speaker 2>integrated holiday together.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do want the integrated holiday, but I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 3>happy to go have a day or two just by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not absolutely itching to be around them. An example

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<v Speaker 3>would be when I was younger and i'd go clubbing,

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<v Speaker 3>I would do pres with my friends, get to the

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<v Speaker 3>club yeat away from them, go make new friends, go

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<v Speaker 3>find some boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a solo operator.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be lagging behind with you half wits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cheeky, babe, Yeah, what about you. I am someone

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<v Speaker 2>who I definitely want to have an integrated holiday, but

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely want my own room. I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm doing exactly what I want to do. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're taking turns being the person who's taking one for

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<v Speaker 2>the team. So if you want to go on a

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<v Speaker 2>little hiki hiking, I don't want to, I gotta take

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<v Speaker 2>one from the team. If I want to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a little store and you don't want to, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>take one from the team, and you've got to do

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<v Speaker 2>it gracefully and very enthusiastically. Yeah, that's a big one

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I definitely think that if you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the budget, we're not going on a holiday. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>thing about holidays is like expect to pay three times

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<v Speaker 2>more for everything because you don't have a home base.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no you're not really I'm not cooking, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have my whole wardrobe there every day. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>be entertained, and so it's going to cost more I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want the decisions we make to be can I

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<v Speaker 2>afford it? We're on a holiday. The plan was to

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<v Speaker 2>afford this adventure. That's a big one for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>my third most important one is not every day has

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<v Speaker 2>to be fire. Some days the most will do is

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<v Speaker 2>go out to eat and the rest can be mundane.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't love hanging out with people who

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<v Speaker 2>are constantly chasing fun, you know, not recognizing that they

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<v Speaker 2>have to be the fun. The fun won't just arrive

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<v Speaker 2>when you go to a new place, like bring some

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<v Speaker 2>of that energy and be down for the night to evolve.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you need to be the kind of person who's

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<v Speaker 2>happy to talk to a stranger, get in a random car,

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<v Speaker 2>like make a new friend. That's what I want. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make a memory. I don't want to just

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<v Speaker 2>have this passive like lame tourist guide one oh one

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<v Speaker 2>where to go and roam type trip. Nope, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to follow any rule books. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to follow any guide books. Just find the best

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<v Speaker 3>pizza restaurant and.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to do it alone, You said, Pauline's flakey.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound flaky. Going to a club with rooms is

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<v Speaker 2>walking into the venue with her and then seeing her

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<v Speaker 2>the next day when you're both at home in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kita FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 3>You are very online. Have you ever taken a video

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<v Speaker 3>of someone without them knowing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my earlier online days, but definitely strayed four or

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<v Speaker 2>four four away from that four four four far far

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<v Speaker 2>far ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, well I haven't like I've heard about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen it obviously all the time. Grew up on

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<v Speaker 3>that brown cardigan lifestyle. But I hadn't really read a

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<v Speaker 3>piece that interrogated that in any big way until recently.

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<v Speaker 3>I found this article by a guy called James greek

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<v Speaker 3>G I E I G. He's a writer that writes

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<v Speaker 3>for Guardian I D. Gorka all those kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>personal essay culture places, and he wrote a piece about

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<v Speaker 3>surveillance culture and exactly how kind of like the Internet

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<v Speaker 3>has evolved to become this culture of surveillance. So that

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<v Speaker 3>includes taking videos without people undersoing, like taking videos of

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<v Speaker 3>people in the gym doing embarrassing stuff, et cetera. Like

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<v Speaker 3>low level snitching is very common, like I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 3>at this thing this?

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<v Speaker 2>Did anybody else see that?

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<v Speaker 3>True?

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<v Speaker 2>Ops everywhere as we say everywhere. Part of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace, though, suggested that we all indulge in surveillance culture,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe in ways we didn't realize. For example, if you've

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<v Speaker 3>ever logged into a burner account to watch someone's Instagram story,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you've ever snapped a photo of someone on

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<v Speaker 3>the bus and send it to the group chat, you're

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<v Speaker 3>participating in surveillance. Even by uploading images and personal information

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<v Speaker 3>to the Internet, you're participating in surveillance culture, even of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And weirdly enough, just as I was writing this down

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<v Speaker 3>to bring it in, I found this story that came

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<v Speaker 3>out last week about an Australian woman who felt dehumanized

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<v Speaker 3>after these TikTok bros filmed her.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see this story? Yes, so basically, even the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we're all talking about it is in opposition

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<v Speaker 2>to what that woman wanted. It's very ironic, I know. Well, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>was this young guy holding a bouquet of flowers and

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<v Speaker 2>a backpack. He goes up to an old woman. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>can you please hold this bouquet of flowers? As he

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<v Speaker 2>under zips his backpack, puts on his jacket and goes

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<v Speaker 2>to walk away, thus leaving the flowers with the woman

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<v Speaker 2>giving the impression that he meant to make her day

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<v Speaker 2>by giving her flowers, and then that video blew up

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<v Speaker 2>and people were in two minds. The first half was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the most obscene, fake set up do good

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<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen. You were not trying to make that

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<v Speaker 2>woman's day. You were trying to get clicks, so people

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<v Speaker 2>think that you're a nice person doing nice things. Then

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<v Speaker 2>in the other part, people were like, oh, but what

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<v Speaker 2>is the issue with doing nice things for clicks? That

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<v Speaker 2>nice lady her day was made by that gesture.

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out it was not, And if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the video, you can tell this did not make this

0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:43.880
<v Speaker 3>woman say.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Why have you She's like, literally in the article she said,

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<v Speaker 3>I was waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't got to the point like you just went in

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<v Speaker 2>the article. What you gotta go back? What do you mean? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the woman in the video saw herself

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet featuring in this piece about having her

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<v Speaker 2>day made, and she's like, the whole internet thinks I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a sad old woman. I wasn't even sad. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just enjoying my day alone. This guy comes interrupts my day,

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<v Speaker 2>films me without permission, puts me on the internet, creates

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<v Speaker 2>this whole narrative around my existence, and it's not even true.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't consent to this the even a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, these artificial.

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<v Speaker 3>Things are not random acts of kindness. He interrupted my

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<v Speaker 3>quiet time, filmed and uploaded a video without my consent,

0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.560
<v Speaker 3>turning it into something it wasn't. I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 3>making quite a lot of money through it. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>patronizing assumption that old women will be thrilled by some

0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.400
<v Speaker 3>random stranger giving them flowers. I didn't want to carry

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<v Speaker 3>them home on the tram, to be quite frank, but

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't given that opportunity. I think other women, especially

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<v Speaker 3>older women, should be aware that this can happen to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>My mum was also in one of those videos. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine Lizzie Lizzy featured in one of those random

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<v Speaker 2>acts of kindness videos? What do you mean? Queenly fainted

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<v Speaker 2>in a viral TikTok she was now to put some

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<v Speaker 2>context around Queen Liz my mum. She is the random

0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.520
<v Speaker 2>acts of kindness queen. Her whole existence is random acts

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<v Speaker 2>of kindness. Here's an example. One day she was having

0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.080
<v Speaker 2>car issues, but she still needs to go to work.

0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Liz is a terrer. She looks after rich old people

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<v Speaker 2>whose children have abandoned them to the but pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>that like she looks after these rich old people who

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<v Speaker 2>have either had surgery or they're just like bedbound.

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<v Speaker 3>And is she very opportunistic, Like is she doing it

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<v Speaker 3>so that she all their money? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no no. She has a thing with older people.

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<v Speaker 2>She really feels like they're forgotten in society, and like

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<v Speaker 2>she goes out of her way in all contexts to

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<v Speaker 2>look after people who she feels have been forgotten by society.

0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Amazing want like she gotta be card. She had had

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<v Speaker 2>car troubles, so she's like, I'll just take a bus,

0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.439
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like take an uber, please, I'll pay for it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>she does not take a bus. So as she's walking

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<v Speaker 2>to the bus stop, she sees this guy who has

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<v Speaker 2>just been in a car crash and he's gotten out

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<v Speaker 2>of his car and he's sitting in front of his

0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.360
<v Speaker 2>car needs the chest whaling. Any other person be like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just walk away, it's not my business. But Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, oh, I feel so bad for this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's just sitting here at the wreck getting abused

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<v Speaker 2>by whoever he hit. I'm gonna check in on him. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like she walks up to him and he's wailing, and

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<v Speaker 2>she she says, oh, excuse me, at you okay? And

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<v Speaker 2>he looks up to her. He's like Mom, She's like no,

0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he's like and then she realizes that he's French and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like actually asking like for his mom as he's whaling.

0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.440
<v Speaker 2>She's like, what happened and he's saying, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even my car. I borrowed a car from my

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<v Speaker 2>friend to do this job on air tasker and I

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<v Speaker 2>was literally going to pick up money for the job

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<v Speaker 2>and then return the car. And he's like, now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna have to use what I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>make to pay my friend back for the damages. Mom's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's okay, Like you seem really stressed. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just deal with one thing at a time. So she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's your name and he's like this is

0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.200
<v Speaker 2>my Name's like how are you? And he was only

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, and she felt so bad for him because

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<v Speaker 2>he was freaking out, and she was like, you young

0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.520
<v Speaker 2>people are always freaking out about things when they just

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<v Speaker 2>need to be fixed, and so she's like one problem

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<v Speaker 2>at a time. So she's like, you need to get

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<v Speaker 2>to this person and get the money. And she's like

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<v Speaker 2>he's like yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like how much is it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I think I meant to make four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, okay, I'm going to give this, give you

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred dollars. You can keep it. Just worry about

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<v Speaker 2>feeling fine and feeling safe and keeping your composure because

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be here for a little while. This woman

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<v Speaker 2>gives him four hundred dollars and just leaves. She was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt so bad for him. He needed a mother.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have hoped that, you know, I would never

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<v Speaker 2>want that for anyone to feel so helpless and so

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<v Speaker 2>alone in a foreign country with no one's help. It's

0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.800
<v Speaker 2>just some shit she does right, But like she also

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<v Speaker 2>has really insane luck, so like her life is very circular.

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<v Speaker 2>She does a lot of amazing things. Amazing things happen

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<v Speaker 2>to her. So she calls me and she's like after

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<v Speaker 2>on a separate occasion, she's like, oh, I was at

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<v Speaker 2>Cols and this random guy paid for my groceries and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what do you mean? And she's I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>was he trying to flirt with? You're like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? Lizzie's like, nah, she's like about one

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<v Speaker 2>of my boyfriends, like just some random guy. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what you're talking about. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just at the counter trying to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff and this random guy says excuse me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was asking for money, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to give him some coins and then he said

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<v Speaker 2>he like paid for my stuff. And I was like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is. And she's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he said it's going to be on TikTok. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what that is? And I was like, yeah,

0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I know what that is. Mommy. She's like, can you

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<v Speaker 2>find him? And I'm like, I don't know who it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like anyway. So eventually somebody who recognized my

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<v Speaker 2>mom sent me this this TikTok and of this, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this guy his name is Jeff, and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>an Australian Random Acts of Kindness wants a prank channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I definitely think there's been a business apart from

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<v Speaker 2>prank channel to random acts of kindness, but essentially, Mom's

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<v Speaker 2>in holes paying for her stuff and he comes up

0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.280
<v Speaker 2>to her and he's like, can I pay for your stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, oh, you know why, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to do something nice for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>she starts crying. She's, oh god, he's so sweet, so seet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so sweet. He pays for her stuff and he

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<v Speaker 2>leaves and then she leaves and she feels so like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, she it's not like she felt guilty,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's like, this is such a sweet and kind thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she went back and paid for somebody else's

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<v Speaker 2>like groceries, and she's like I just didn't need the

0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.479
<v Speaker 2>blessing that day, like somebody else might have needed it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. But I was like, she was so

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<v Speaker 2>genuine about it. And when I saw that video, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as that Jeff guy found out that that was

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, he was like, we should collabse sometime, so't

0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, and I was like, I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 2>that my mum experienced that as such a genuine human

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 2>to human we are one, you know, we all originated

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<v Speaker 2>in Africa time as opposed to. It's really like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know something about it seems very not predatory, but

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that it's you know, often targeting these

0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like older women or you know what I'm saying. They're

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<v Speaker 2>never targeting some alpha bro jim head, juice head, get

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<v Speaker 2>here away from me, alpha male. How hectic is that? Though?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Liz was the Yeah, but she loved it. She like

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<v Speaker 2>this is sweet. She's like, he seems like a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be friends, do that collab. You're free, So thanks, mommy.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that for Liz. I don't like those people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like their channel. I don't like their vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hate the idea that you do something with

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that you're going to get something in return, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels so grubby.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels grubbier than getting any kind of like money

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<v Speaker 3>back from doing something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind if acts of kindness aren't genuine, you

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<v Speaker 2>really don't. Yeah, as long as they're not overly exploitative.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't like it if you're getting something more

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<v Speaker 3>than It's like I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 3>use this example, but a brand sends you a two

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<v Speaker 3>dollar bar of chocolate, that's an act of kindness until

0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:01.119
<v Speaker 3>a post is expected, and then that's the pipeline, the

0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Sacks of Cutness pipeline bro style branded issue.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Cada, it's through me.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of the Rice Purity Test? No, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even ring a little bell.

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Nah.

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You're so chronically online though, so I thought you would

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<v Speaker 2>have for sure heard about this and done the test.

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<v Speaker 2>My head is in a sand box. Is in a

0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.919
<v Speaker 2>sand box here, robot. The Rice Purity Test is a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred question survey that assesses a person's level of innocence.

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.959
<v Speaker 2>It is a very I want to say it's a

0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.679
<v Speaker 2>religiously formed quiz, but yeah. Basically assesses your level of

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.200
<v Speaker 2>innocence in like a world full of like naughty things.

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<v Speaker 2>So after you do the test, you get given a score,

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<v Speaker 2>with one hundred being the most pure you can ever

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<v Speaker 2>be and zero being the least pure. And so all

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 2>of the questions are about you know, like hooking up, kissing,

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 2>hand holding, all these kinds of things, with the intent

0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 2>that you would finish the test and get a zero.

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 2>And it actually got started or it originated at the

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Rice University in Houston in nineteen twenty four the Texans

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and to gauge each student's level of maturity and help

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<v Speaker 2>them bond with one another. If we scored really high

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.280
<v Speaker 2>on the tests, meaning we're really pure people, it also

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.240
<v Speaker 2>gives the impression that we've had the same life experiences.

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Therefore we're going to bond together. If you scored really

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<v Speaker 2>low on the test, meaning you're really impure, you've done

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of naughty things, then I guess that's when

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.640
<v Speaker 2>they like, you know, do the I don't know, get

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:39.840
<v Speaker 2>you into therapy and talk about how.

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 3>You need to like throw some holywater on.

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 2>You, switch up your life. But I remember I would

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<v Speaker 2>say tumbler days. I'm talking twenty ten, two thousand and nine.

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was super big because that was people's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>way to signal that, like, you know, I've done stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a regular teen, I'm a cool teen, and

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<v Speaker 2>so people would inflate the scores that they got to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, you know, like I've done all this stuff.

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking, why what has replaced that now?

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Because of course I don't remember being eighteen or you

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.479
<v Speaker 2>wanted or even sixteen fifteen. All you wanted to do

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>is be perceived as someone who was older and had

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>more life experience, was more mature. But I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>how would this test work in twenty twenty two. Do

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<v Speaker 2>young people and I'm talking like fifteen year olds care

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<v Speaker 2>about trying to present as more adult by being more sexual? Essential?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Because on the weekend I was on the Gold Coast,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you were, and I was lining up to go

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.959
<v Speaker 3>on this sling shot, which is like this ride that

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 3>slings you hundreds of meters in the air, very spooky,

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and in front of us and behind us were two

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<v Speaker 3>like girlfriends, like little girls. I'm like fifteen, and we

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<v Speaker 3>just got talking. But we didn't know they were fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>so they looked a bit older. So we're told, you

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<v Speaker 3>think they were eighteen, right, inkling?

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<v Speaker 2>They might be underage? Oh okay, but you know no,

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Karen was ready to report had an.

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Inkling anyway, having a chat to them and we're like,

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, me and my friend Louis will want to

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 3>go clubbing. We wanna go somewhere like queer and fun,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're We're like, have.

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 2>You heard of this place? And they're like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Later on find out they're fourteen, of course they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but they were the adults pretending they're now

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 3>where to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And I said like, we don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, yeah, we know that, which was quite nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That is sweet. Well, I did end up finding the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two version. It's called the Innocence Tests, so

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<v Speaker 2>not that much better, but we'll see how we go.

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<v Speaker 2>And it includes like quintessential twenty first century rebellious stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, sake ideas, sexting, dating apps, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, what kind of world are we

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<v Speaker 2>living in? Everything is so cyclical, like I would have

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<v Speaker 2>thought there would be some think piece about how it's

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<v Speaker 2>like not necessary to categorize ourselves as pure and impure

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<v Speaker 2>or innocent and not innocent, and how we have graduated

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<v Speaker 2>away from these titles. No, no, no, they just reading it

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<v Speaker 2>made it more contextual.

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<v Speaker 3>We're always gonna want that aggrading system or finding out

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<v Speaker 3>what other people have done, like it's fun, yeah, fun

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<v Speaker 3>to judge. It's fun to judge when there's like a

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<v Speaker 3>numerical element.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I find you gotta do yours later. I'm intrigued. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>send me the link. That's what I wanted it. I

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<v Speaker 2>know though, so there's no way you're getting pure and.

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<v Speaker 3>Frooms FLEXI have you seen on Instagram the NGL links

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<v Speaker 3>on people's stories, not even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what this is. It's so curious.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's basically like a question box where people can

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<v Speaker 3>ask anonymous questions via this. Like add on to Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>NGL links is called not Gonna Lie essentially, Wait, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it in Instagram?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a add on, so you go to a

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<v Speaker 3>third party site, but then it gives you little screenshots

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<v Speaker 3>to put onto your story.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't used the backhand because I'm not gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>any miny of that bloody out.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what the website says.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fresh take on anonymity, which I personally don't

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<v Speaker 3>think we need. We believe anonymity should be a fun,

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<v Speaker 3>yet safe place to express your feelings and opinions without shame.

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<v Speaker 3>Young people don't have a space to share their feelings

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<v Speaker 3>without judgment from friends or societal pressures. Yeah, for good reason,

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<v Speaker 3>keep your bushpeing opinions yourself. Angie Oll provides this safe

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<v Speaker 3>space for teens.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't frame it that way. Do you know what these

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<v Speaker 2>things are used for these anonymous let me tell you

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<v Speaker 2>some demonic news about yourself, and they're trying to frame

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<v Speaker 2>as a safe activity. What about this is safe?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, supposedly, it filters out mean messages. So to ensure

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<v Speaker 3>the safety of our users, we use world class AI

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<v Speaker 3>content moderation. We utilize deep learning and rules based character

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<v Speaker 3>pattern matching algorithms to filter out harmful language and bullying.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you might be thinking, it's only seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>year olds using this, but no. One of my best

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<v Speaker 3>friends uses it. Here's her experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I was thinking I would get,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know why I downloaded it. It did

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<v Speaker 4>appeal to me in a way that form Spring did

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<v Speaker 4>when I was fourteen and wanted to know who was

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<v Speaker 4>secretly horny for me, and sheel certainly provided that there

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<v Speaker 4>weren't any mean messages, that's for sure, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit nervous about that, given that I have

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<v Speaker 4>some disgruntled x's following me and thought that would be

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<v Speaker 4>the best opportunity to really pull me into line.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, it was really just messages about.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's your vibe right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Top five fave songs and bands are.

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<v Speaker 5>You single, currently, what's your favorite book? What's in your

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<v Speaker 5>fridge right now? Like super nothing messages that were really

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<v Speaker 5>fun to do, and it kind of felt reminiscent of

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<v Speaker 5>that early pandemic time when everyone just wanted to stay

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<v Speaker 5>connected but really didn't have anything to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten out of ten, we'll do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very jobless behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>If we're filtering out the mean things, why can't we

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<v Speaker 2>just use Instagram's integrated question feature? Why are were going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into a third party site that's probably mining

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<v Speaker 2>all of your data to put it back on the

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<v Speaker 2>original data mining app Instagram to ask you Monday in

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<v Speaker 2>questions like what book are you reading? I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's role playing. It's for quote unquote non content creators

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<v Speaker 2>to roleplay influencer for a day, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>why people are enjoying it. It's this ironic way to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, what about me? Ask me things? I

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<v Speaker 2>too want to be given an opportunity to share these

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<v Speaker 2>things about myself with context, because to do it without

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<v Speaker 2>context would be way too cringey.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Wow, what an incredible summation you've just made.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it is. Yeah, So you because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking out the reason why these ask FM tumbler

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<v Speaker 2>question things were juicy is because they were anonymous and salacious.

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<v Speaker 2>You really were getting to the crux of you know

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<v Speaker 2>why you like this? Does your friend like that person?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like You're asking people things that are controversial

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<v Speaker 2>enough that you should have to do it anonymously. Why

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<v Speaker 2>do I need to go to a separate site to

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<v Speaker 2>anonymous anonymously ask you what book you're reading? Alas, no shade,

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<v Speaker 2>just an observation.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go in jail links. It's out, it's on

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<v Speaker 3>the outlist.

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<v Speaker 2>I like hearing about these things. Bring out some new apps.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready for a new social networking app.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this. Nearly two hundred thousand people that's a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>have filed for divorce across Australia in the past two years,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the highest number in more than a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>We can make some assumptions that relationships are coming to

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<v Speaker 2>the stress of lockdown. I would assume correlation, not causation.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares but COVID causes divorces or something. So wait,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get this straight. There's twenty five million people

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. Would you say, give will take?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like when I learned the fact of how

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<v Speaker 3>many Australians they were, I was seven and that was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check people in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>And two hundred thousand of them that are at the

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<v Speaker 3>age that can get married. That's a substantial amount. That'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like one in five. WHOA you just where's his

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<v Speaker 3>maths coming from? The point is two hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 3>isn't a huge amount. But if that's the highest it's

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<v Speaker 3>been in the last decade since COVID, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A big deal. Love is not in the air. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I figure.

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<v Speaker 3>If ten years ago it was higher, it's the higher

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<v Speaker 3>since then. The GFC was back in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>He could be onto something.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I guess big life things are difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Love is too hard to maintain. When life gets hard,

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<v Speaker 2>gotta let one thing go. Some say your comfort, your luxuries. No,

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<v Speaker 2>let go of your part. I'll still be buying the lipsticks.

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<v Speaker 2>But the man can go deadweight anyway.

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