1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcasts, playlists and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free I heard. 3 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:19,229 Speaker 2: App Hates Will and what you were talking David Arbor 4 00:00:19,349 --> 00:00:21,349 Speaker 2: at the moment he plays Hopper and Stranger Things. 5 00:00:21,349 --> 00:00:24,069 Speaker 3: Just broken up Lily Allen. She's just written and. 6 00:00:24,029 --> 00:00:27,829 Speaker 2: Released the most hectic breakoup record about their relationship, with 7 00:00:27,869 --> 00:00:28,709 Speaker 2: him cheating on her. 8 00:00:28,789 --> 00:00:30,549 Speaker 3: All the details pretty wild. 9 00:00:30,749 --> 00:00:33,269 Speaker 2: Our producer Joe's favorite song is a song called Pussy 10 00:00:33,349 --> 00:00:35,028 Speaker 2: Palace on that record. 11 00:00:34,949 --> 00:00:38,148 Speaker 1: Referring to his apartment in London. She didn't realize it 12 00:00:38,269 --> 00:00:40,749 Speaker 1: was a Yeah, that's wild, that palace. 13 00:00:41,028 --> 00:00:42,349 Speaker 3: So yeah, you guys want to listen to that. 14 00:00:42,349 --> 00:00:44,028 Speaker 2: But we are just talking about what You've got some 15 00:00:44,028 --> 00:00:45,269 Speaker 2: thoughts on this is you've got to join the girls 16 00:00:45,309 --> 00:00:48,548 Speaker 2: goes here because he is everywhere right now. And the 17 00:00:48,589 --> 00:00:52,309 Speaker 2: big thing, obviously, the big part about this is Netflix 18 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:56,149 Speaker 2: brand new season of Stranger Things, the last season season five. 19 00:00:56,669 --> 00:00:57,789 Speaker 3: I'm rewatching season. 20 00:00:57,589 --> 00:00:59,988 Speaker 2: Four just to remember everything is a lot going on, 21 00:01:00,749 --> 00:01:03,589 Speaker 2: is out November twenty six, and the two star, the 22 00:01:03,629 --> 00:01:06,509 Speaker 2: biggest star now of Stranger Things, who has emerged as 23 00:01:06,549 --> 00:01:08,429 Speaker 2: the biggest star, you know, the speculation she's going to 24 00:01:08,429 --> 00:01:10,548 Speaker 2: be playing Britney Spears in a biol peak, she couldn't 25 00:01:10,549 --> 00:01:11,709 Speaker 2: be bigger right now. 26 00:01:11,669 --> 00:01:14,348 Speaker 3: Millie Bobby Brown like a half volley. 27 00:01:14,509 --> 00:01:17,669 Speaker 2: Right after Lily Allen releases that record, she then makes 28 00:01:17,709 --> 00:01:23,589 Speaker 2: a formal claim with Netflix, complaint saying that David Harbor 29 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:25,749 Speaker 2: has bullied and harassed. 30 00:01:25,229 --> 00:01:29,269 Speaker 4: Her, which Netflix haven't commented on. 31 00:01:29,469 --> 00:01:31,548 Speaker 2: They haven't commented. I said before that she should follow 32 00:01:31,549 --> 00:01:33,908 Speaker 2: the law, so she hasn't done that. She just lodged 33 00:01:33,949 --> 00:01:35,589 Speaker 2: a official complaint with Netflix. 34 00:01:35,709 --> 00:01:37,789 Speaker 4: So it's not looking good for old Harbor. 35 00:01:37,989 --> 00:01:40,909 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of all unraveling, because it's interesting when 36 00:01:40,949 --> 00:01:42,869 Speaker 1: it's like, let's be honest, like if this is a 37 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:46,389 Speaker 1: bad breakup and someone is writing nasty things in songs, 38 00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:49,069 Speaker 1: you can kind of look at that and go, Okay, 39 00:01:49,149 --> 00:01:51,509 Speaker 1: I haven't heard his perspective, like things can get really 40 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:52,509 Speaker 1: nasty and breakouts. 41 00:01:52,549 --> 00:01:54,589 Speaker 4: But that coupled with the Millie Bobby Brown thing. 42 00:01:55,909 --> 00:01:57,669 Speaker 2: It's also sad like on the Millibog Brown side of 43 00:01:57,709 --> 00:01:59,309 Speaker 2: things because we're just saying that, look like they've been 44 00:01:59,309 --> 00:02:02,029 Speaker 2: close the whole time. Imagine if he has been harassing 45 00:02:02,069 --> 00:02:04,389 Speaker 2: her the whole time, but she's only got like the 46 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:07,029 Speaker 2: strength the gumption to say it because Lily Allen's kind 47 00:02:07,069 --> 00:02:08,268 Speaker 2: of like, you know what I mean, that's how it 48 00:02:08,309 --> 00:02:12,549 Speaker 2: works with these people build us a specter around themselves, 49 00:02:12,629 --> 00:02:15,389 Speaker 2: and they're you know, almost unassailable, and you rely on 50 00:02:15,429 --> 00:02:17,629 Speaker 2: somebody else complaining before you can complain. 51 00:02:17,909 --> 00:02:19,629 Speaker 4: I really hope that's not the case. 52 00:02:19,709 --> 00:02:20,349 Speaker 3: I think we all do. 53 00:02:20,549 --> 00:02:22,629 Speaker 2: Natalie is called to join the gust though, Natalie, what 54 00:02:22,669 --> 00:02:23,828 Speaker 2: do you reckon about David Arbor? 55 00:02:24,549 --> 00:02:24,709 Speaker 3: Oh? 56 00:02:24,749 --> 00:02:27,549 Speaker 5: My god, Hi William watching your baby girl. 57 00:02:28,029 --> 00:02:30,549 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nat, I very much appreciate that. But let's 58 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:33,069 Speaker 1: talk about David Arbor. Because Murphy, my new daughter, she's 59 00:02:33,109 --> 00:02:34,829 Speaker 1: off him. She hates David. I'm going to go with 60 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:39,709 Speaker 1: the name David, but then cross. But now, where are 61 00:02:39,749 --> 00:02:40,909 Speaker 1: you at with David Arbor? 62 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:44,629 Speaker 5: I'll be so honest. I loved Stranger Things. 63 00:02:45,029 --> 00:02:47,149 Speaker 3: I think he was amazing and Stranger Things. 64 00:02:47,189 --> 00:02:49,989 Speaker 5: And then Lily Allen's stuff came out and it's to 65 00:02:50,109 --> 00:02:53,309 Speaker 5: be like, you're kind of scary looking now, and now 66 00:02:53,349 --> 00:02:54,469 Speaker 5: these allegations like. 67 00:02:54,429 --> 00:02:59,229 Speaker 2: It's really funny, wife's and mine starts turning them into 68 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:00,949 Speaker 2: such an asshole once you know that. 69 00:03:01,989 --> 00:03:04,189 Speaker 4: My wife said the same thing. He looks kind of. 70 00:03:06,389 --> 00:03:08,589 Speaker 3: He does well in all the Marvel stuff. 71 00:03:08,589 --> 00:03:13,869 Speaker 2: He plays this massive, like Russian super villain kind of guy. 72 00:03:14,029 --> 00:03:17,109 Speaker 1: Even if you watch episode one of the first season 73 00:03:17,109 --> 00:03:19,189 Speaker 1: of Stranger Things, yeah, you first see him. 74 00:03:19,309 --> 00:03:21,549 Speaker 4: He's gross. Look, he's rough. 75 00:03:21,829 --> 00:03:24,989 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but he has this beautiful redemption. 76 00:03:24,829 --> 00:03:27,909 Speaker 1: Arc of course, and it's acting. I gotta remember, he's 77 00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:31,228 Speaker 1: playing a character. Everything you see him doing Stranger Things, 78 00:03:31,309 --> 00:03:33,069 Speaker 1: we cannot assume that that is them. 79 00:03:33,229 --> 00:03:36,309 Speaker 2: And if he is such a good actor, is it 80 00:03:36,469 --> 00:03:38,109 Speaker 2: you know, often they're great actors in real life. 81 00:03:38,109 --> 00:03:40,549 Speaker 3: I mean Kevin Spacey, we're talking about him just before. 82 00:03:40,949 --> 00:03:43,589 Speaker 3: I mean, he fooled the world for twenty five years 83 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:45,069 Speaker 3: that he was a really good guy. With all that 84 00:03:45,109 --> 00:03:47,949 Speaker 3: sort of stuff started coming out, all of these there's 85 00:03:47,989 --> 00:03:49,989 Speaker 3: so how could you treat here and. 86 00:03:50,189 --> 00:03:52,269 Speaker 2: You know, with you know, hopefully not getting sad, but 87 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:55,429 Speaker 2: you could start going through great actors and all of 88 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:59,309 Speaker 2: a sudden, gee whiz, falls of a cliff pretty quickly. No, 89 00:03:59,429 --> 00:04:01,309 Speaker 2: there's not many great actors. 90 00:04:00,989 --> 00:04:03,989 Speaker 1: Who are not absolute freaks of course, really, because you 91 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:05,869 Speaker 1: kind of have to be that level to be an extra, 92 00:04:06,429 --> 00:04:09,189 Speaker 1: to totally disassociate from who you are and become a 93 00:04:09,189 --> 00:04:09,869 Speaker 1: different person. 94 00:04:09,989 --> 00:04:11,269 Speaker 4: Yes, it takes a certain person. 95 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:14,109 Speaker 1: Did you ever have a fight with an actor and 96 00:04:14,149 --> 00:04:16,749 Speaker 1: be like, as you are you being legit? Do you know? 97 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:18,988 Speaker 1: Like you say, you've just watched them in an amazing 98 00:04:18,988 --> 00:04:20,549 Speaker 1: scene where they've got emotional and stuff, and then you 99 00:04:20,628 --> 00:04:22,948 Speaker 1: have a fight with them at home and they they're 100 00:04:22,988 --> 00:04:23,628 Speaker 1: crying and stuff. 101 00:04:23,628 --> 00:04:26,709 Speaker 3: You'd be like, well, where's the line? Where's the line? 102 00:04:26,749 --> 00:04:29,188 Speaker 3: It's really difficult. I think I was telling you before. 103 00:04:29,869 --> 00:04:32,149 Speaker 2: There's a Dustin Hoffman who won the Academy Award for 104 00:04:32,189 --> 00:04:36,269 Speaker 2: Kramer Versus Kramer. He there's a scene where he like 105 00:04:36,549 --> 00:04:39,789 Speaker 2: belted Meryl Street like in the in the script, it 106 00:04:39,869 --> 00:04:42,549 Speaker 2: was like, you know, his character hits Meryl Street and 107 00:04:42,589 --> 00:04:45,189 Speaker 2: he like actually smacked her around. 108 00:04:45,069 --> 00:04:47,829 Speaker 4: With her like with her like thumbs up, like you 109 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:48,269 Speaker 4: can do that. 110 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:50,188 Speaker 2: No, no, Like they just hadn't gone through it yet 111 00:04:50,389 --> 00:04:52,109 Speaker 2: and they were going through it and he whacked her 112 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:53,988 Speaker 2: and they haven't spoken since. 113 00:04:54,229 --> 00:04:56,109 Speaker 3: But his whole thing was like, it. 114 00:04:56,029 --> 00:04:56,629 Speaker 4: Was my character. 115 00:04:56,709 --> 00:04:58,269 Speaker 3: What do you know about? It was my character? Hey, 116 00:04:58,469 --> 00:05:00,469 Speaker 3: Sam's called thirteen. I know it's yuck. Thirteen. 117 00:05:00,549 --> 00:05:02,789 Speaker 2: Sam's called thirteen one and six five? You want to 118 00:05:02,829 --> 00:05:03,869 Speaker 2: join the girls with the goths? Here? 119 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:04,389 Speaker 3: What you got? 120 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:07,069 Speaker 4: Excuse me? 121 00:05:08,109 --> 00:05:08,469 Speaker 5: Sure? Do? 122 00:05:08,789 --> 00:05:09,789 Speaker 4: Oh great? Join us? 123 00:05:09,829 --> 00:05:10,069 Speaker 3: Sam? 124 00:05:10,109 --> 00:05:12,469 Speaker 4: What have you heard what's the goss you've got. 125 00:05:12,789 --> 00:05:14,349 Speaker 5: Well, I think that, you know, with all of her 126 00:05:14,389 --> 00:05:16,469 Speaker 5: new albums coming out and things like that, she's obviously 127 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:18,068 Speaker 5: had it in the back of her mind for a while. 128 00:05:18,109 --> 00:05:19,909 Speaker 5: But I also think, you know, it was a way 129 00:05:19,949 --> 00:05:21,868 Speaker 5: for her to cope with it and you know, work 130 00:05:21,949 --> 00:05:25,869 Speaker 5: through it herself. So a coping mechanism. 131 00:05:25,589 --> 00:05:26,789 Speaker 3: Writing the record is. 132 00:05:28,789 --> 00:05:31,109 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I suppose, So it's definitely a part of that. 133 00:05:31,149 --> 00:05:33,829 Speaker 1: But so the other part of this is she's by 134 00:05:33,829 --> 00:05:36,909 Speaker 1: writing this album, like she's made it so obvious that 135 00:05:36,949 --> 00:05:38,949 Speaker 1: she's talking about David, right, Yeah, I don't know if 136 00:05:38,949 --> 00:05:42,269 Speaker 1: she's like named him, but it's like it's obviously about 137 00:05:42,309 --> 00:05:46,269 Speaker 1: him because she's been so obvious about the things that 138 00:05:46,309 --> 00:05:48,629 Speaker 1: she's accusing him of. Yeah, Like that's got to get 139 00:05:48,669 --> 00:05:51,949 Speaker 1: like to defamation areas, Like if she's making it exactly, 140 00:05:52,109 --> 00:05:52,949 Speaker 1: is she's making it up? 141 00:05:52,988 --> 00:05:56,549 Speaker 3: She's in trouble, But also is it like I suppose 142 00:05:56,589 --> 00:05:57,109 Speaker 3: this is the other. 143 00:05:57,029 --> 00:06:01,389 Speaker 2: Part for me is how many people like they're in 144 00:06:01,429 --> 00:06:04,669 Speaker 2: an open relationship, right, yeah, like they're like I always 145 00:06:04,669 --> 00:06:07,669 Speaker 2: find it gets very interesting one and once there's a 146 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:10,509 Speaker 2: he says, she said in an open relationship scenario, it's 147 00:06:10,509 --> 00:06:12,909 Speaker 2: like well, you've agreed that you can both sleep with 148 00:06:12,949 --> 00:06:15,709 Speaker 2: other people. Then I'm there's gonna be another side of 149 00:06:15,709 --> 00:06:17,389 Speaker 2: this story. The other thing I would say. 150 00:06:17,349 --> 00:06:17,909 Speaker 4: David talks. 151 00:06:18,149 --> 00:06:19,949 Speaker 3: If he talks, he might not talk. 152 00:06:20,429 --> 00:06:22,269 Speaker 2: I think the Milli Bobby round thing, obviously is you know, 153 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:26,308 Speaker 2: obviously a point against him. There's this note that button 154 00:06:26,309 --> 00:06:29,428 Speaker 2: push of Thomas showed me, which is which is sort 155 00:06:29,469 --> 00:06:32,029 Speaker 2: of like a piece of character evidence, which is he 156 00:06:32,909 --> 00:06:35,669 Speaker 2: apparently he gave Lily Alan these flowers. 157 00:06:36,069 --> 00:06:39,748 Speaker 1: Photo of a photo. There's a photo of this note. 158 00:06:39,829 --> 00:06:41,669 Speaker 1: This is legit, this is a confirmed this is real. 159 00:06:41,949 --> 00:06:42,189 Speaker 3: Yeah. 160 00:06:42,229 --> 00:06:44,349 Speaker 2: So he gives Lily on these flowers and it's got 161 00:06:44,349 --> 00:06:49,069 Speaker 2: this note attached to it, and it says, my ambitious wife, Comma, 162 00:06:49,869 --> 00:06:52,549 Speaker 2: these are bad luck flowers. This is for the opening 163 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:55,869 Speaker 2: night of Lily Allen's play. These are bad luck flowers. 164 00:06:56,149 --> 00:06:58,509 Speaker 2: Because if you get reviewed well in this play, you 165 00:06:58,509 --> 00:07:01,109 Speaker 2: will get all kinds of awards, and I'll be miserable, 166 00:07:01,669 --> 00:07:05,909 Speaker 2: full stop, your loving husband full stop. Now again, in 167 00:07:06,109 --> 00:07:09,229 Speaker 2: light of like what we know about him, mm hmmm, 168 00:07:10,029 --> 00:07:13,069 Speaker 2: seems like it seems like a real dick comment if 169 00:07:13,069 --> 00:07:15,269 Speaker 2: you put that through the filter of he's not a 170 00:07:15,309 --> 00:07:18,869 Speaker 2: bad guy, that could be sarcasm. That's just like really 171 00:07:18,989 --> 00:07:20,829 Speaker 2: washed as well in their relationship like that, that that 172 00:07:20,869 --> 00:07:22,029 Speaker 2: could just be really funny. 173 00:07:22,349 --> 00:07:23,589 Speaker 4: Wow, that's so true. 174 00:07:23,949 --> 00:07:27,149 Speaker 1: God, you never do sarcasm over text, it doesn't work. 175 00:07:27,429 --> 00:07:27,789 Speaker 3: Come on 176 00:07:30,949 --> 00:07:34,949 Speaker 4: Your voice, ha,