1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda very alarming yesterday for 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: parents to hear that they needed to keep their children 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: off social media if they could, particularly off TikTok. You 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: probably have heard this by now, but a graphic video 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: of a live streamed video, a livestream suicide was uploaded, well, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: it was live streamed on Facebook and then it's been 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: uploaded to TikTok. It was taken down by other social 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: media platforms, but it's morphed in TikTok into other videos 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: that are called bait and switch videos. So you think 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at a video of a little puppy or 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: a cat, and this horrific images appear. And because of 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the algorithm with TikTok, the for you page means that 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: you can be exposed to content that you're not expecting, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: even if no one you follow has uploaded that. Sure, 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: So it's it's tricky as to how to deal with 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: this because saying there's something graphic and terrifying, don't look 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: at it. For a teenager, it's like saying, hey, there's 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: a sign saying wet paint, don't touch it. Cush you 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and to touch it. But we do have to be 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: aware that a lot of our kids have already seen it. 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: I think Jack was already This was circulating at his 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: school yesterday, even though alarms went out to parents saying beware, 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: So you have to be prepared to deal with the 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: fallout of them seeing something terrible that they can never unsee. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: And that's a scary thing. By the time we hear 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: about it, the kids have already seen it. 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: This is what I was saying to Jack. You don't choose, Please, 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: don't choose to see it. You can never unsee it. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: But don't you think it's strange? Facebook and Instagram, for example, 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: remember I did that pose of Jack Thompson for Take 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Five's Hottest Radio Hunk or whatever. So I'm in the 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: nude on a chaise lounge with a giant, giant photoshopped 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: hand over my area. So Instagram took that down because 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: they doomed a defensive. 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Instagram has taken this down too. 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: I know it. How did it even get past the keeper? 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Oh pretty much. Instagram were pretty much straight onto that 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: post and they took it off my Instagram feed. Who, obviously, 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: who looks over all this stuff, all this content that 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: goes out, Are there actual humans looking at it or 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: is it part of an algorithm that looks out there. 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: So what I mean is like, does it look for 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: stuff like a nipple or a penis or a vagina 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: or something that says, right, we can't have that, but 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: guys shoot himself in the head. We're gonna have that. 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: Is that what happens? 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but beware that your 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: child may have seen this or it's as I said 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: on TikTok, it's morphing into other videos. That's what's alarming. 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: It can be taken down, but it's still being seen. 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: So it's a fine line between saying, oh, don't look, 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: don't look, don't look graphic content, don't look, which will 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: make people look, but alerting people to the fact of 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: what's going on. It's hard, isn't it. Of course, if 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: you need help Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen with Jones and 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Uh