WEBVTT - Kurt Tilse's Shock Confession, Molly-Mae Breaks Her Silence & Influencer Re-coupling 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.160 This is Outspoken the podcast. It's not afraid to say 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.000 exactly what you're thinking. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.480 Our names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torba. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.800 We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions, 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.200 so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.600 reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:22.759 That is so fat. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.800 Thank you, Welcome back to another episode of Outspoken. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:28.240 Now. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.440 It was quite funny listening to that intro because it 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.080 was quite a contentious topic on our trip to Port Elliott. Yeah, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.519 because it was actually a question in a quiz we 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.280 played over the weekend, so we had a girl's verse 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.560 boys friends style quiz, so we basically broke off into 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.040 groups and Kate, Sophie and I came up with some 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:47.840 banger questions. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.400 So can you run us through some of the questions 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:49.680 we heard? 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.440 Well, it was we had to come up with ten 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.200 personal questions about each of us and so did the boys, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.040 and they range from very very obscure things like what 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.160 lipstick color do I wear? Two more easy answers that 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.600 the boys really should have known, what are the names 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.920 about aunties and uncles whom they have met? And the 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:09.920 thing is we played this game a number of years 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.560 ago on another holiday and it just led to confrontation, 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.360 arguments and upset and the boys really didn't want to 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.240 play the game again. Somehow we really wanted to play, 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.600 but the worst thing was that we kind of turned 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.760 on one another instead of the boys. Well, I'm the 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.640 one that got turned upon because I think it was 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.000 around twelve o'clock on the last night of the trip 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.720 and it was a tie. So Amy and Sophie were 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.720 being so competitive that they wanted to do a second round, 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.160 and I was just so tired that I was like, Okay, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.880 you guys can come up with a question. So you 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.720 went off to the room and you came out very smug, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.160 and you asked a question regarding what street did our 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.760 parents live on when they lived in Port Agusta when 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.560 they first met. Now, the trick game was it was 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.880 quite a memorable street because it was Himan Avenue and 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.440 what we thought it was Hyman Avenue, and Amy and 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.760 Dale had shared what funny discussion about the. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:02.400 Fact that it was Heim. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.960 The reason the reason I remember it was Hyman is 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.760 because when Sophie and I were coming up with our 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.160 business name, I asked mum and dad, Hey, what was 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.040 the street that you that you had a house on Importagusta, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.679 because sometimes street names are really cool business names. And 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.480 Mum's like, I don't think you want to use our 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.000 street name. It was Hyman anyway. Yeah, got the wires 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.840 crossed because that was actually the name of their street 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.760 at their first house in Edwardstown in Adelaide, not in Portagusta. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:27.040 Yeah. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.000 So I knew that this was the edwards Town address 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.880 because I had been looking at a house in that 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.480 area and went on the street. So I was like, oh, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.359 hang on, isn't that the street name of mum and 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.920 Dad's first house in Edwardstown? And oh the daggers that 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.920 I got. I literally got roasted. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:43.120 What traded. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.679 I'm sorry you were team girls. Even if he knew 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.720 that you shut up, you'd have gone on with it. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:48.959 And can I just say. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:49.880 It was not a draw. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.120 We were actually winning by one and Sophie's boyfriend kicked 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.920 up a stink because he said the point shouldn't count 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.399 for us because Sophie said his favorite movie. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.639 Was Karate Kidd and not The charact So that was 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:01.600 a contentious issue. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.920 I do have to say I was very impressed with 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.920 Brann and he did seem to know well. I feel 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.320 like he answered most of the questions about myself and 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.320 also Kate who he used to work and he. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.600 Really held that team up there. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.640 But when it turned to questions about our podcast and 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.360 our podcast intro, it was quite clear that they don't listen, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:19.720 which I am glad about. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.560 But here let's throw to a clip of. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.280 What they think our podcast intro is. Recite our podcast 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.080 intro you block work on your podcast and the podcast 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:39.680 where we talk about all these influences and having a 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:46.200 bad Now, I feel like one of our listeners, Rodney, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.800 has really put the boys to shame because they couldn't 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.720 even get one line right, Whereas he a couple of 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.600 months ago was reciting on his Instagram story that we 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.000 all loved to be fair. I think Dad would also 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.960 be clueless. However, I think Mum would actually be able 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:02.480 to recite it. Will have to try and ask her 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.119 tonight at family. Did her she's number one listener? Yeah, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.920 film it for a real put it to the test 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.560 and see if she knows all the words. I think 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.520 she would because she listens to the podcast episodes a 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.880 couple of times in one day now, Kay, there have 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.520 been a couple of questions in our Facebook community about 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.560 your puppy and you are actually visiting her today. I 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.040 am so excited. I feel like I have been waiting 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.160 for this day for so long. It's only been I 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.520 think seven weeks since she was born, and we get 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.760 to take her home at the eight week mark. So 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.240 today we get to go down meet all the puppies. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.159 We don't know which one is ours yet. We did 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.520 have the breeder ask what sort of personality we wanted 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.000 and color and size, but we just said we wanted 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.880 a friendly dog because I almost thought it was a 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.479 test if you really focused on the aesthetic of the dogs. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:47.960 I was like, oh, I don't mind, I just want 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.159 a friendly dog that will get along with Shadow. Yeah, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.960 I'd like the most instagram worthy looking dog that you 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:53.680 have to offer. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.280 Is there one that's got like one different colored eye? 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.040 I would like it noted that I did not ask 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.760 for the most instagram able dog. My dog just became 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.839 insta famous on his own well. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.719 His brother Winston's got a big Instagram following. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.960 And I really hope you my two dogs now get 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.320 a shout out from your page. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.200 Morning guys and Welcome to a beautiful morning here in. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.560 CANAA influencer and content creator Kurt Tills revealed he considered 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.520 becoming a drug dealer and a stripper before meeting his 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.800 wife Sarah's day. He made the admission during a recent 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.240 podcast episode of The nearly revamped Health Code Daily. Kate, firstly, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.000 can you give us a rundown on Sarah and Kurt's podcast? 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:30.600 Yeah. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.680 So, they launched their podcast called The Health Code back 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.120 in twenty eighteen, and at the time when it launched, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.839 they did long form episodes covering topics relating to fitness, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.520 which really haven't aged that well. There were things like 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.600 how to get abs, are you training hard enough? As 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.960 well as relationship episode sharing dating advice. So last year 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.479 Spotify then funded a daily Health Code show where the 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.240 couple released five to ten minute episodes each day. Now 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.800 every day they had a specific top to cover, so, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.800 for example, on Tuesdays it was tasting Tuesdays, Wednesdays was 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.920 workout Wednesdays, so there was a bit of a formula there. However, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.800 it was quite clear it got old quickly and it 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.839 was quite a restrictive way to record podcasts because it 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.720 didn't allow Kurt and Sarah to be quite creative or 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.680 bring up stories like the stories I had to talk 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.039 about could only fit into that specific format. So two 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.960 weeks ago, the Health Code Daily had a complete rebrand 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.080 and they launched season two. So in this new season, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.280 they've got rid of the daily topics and it started 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.880 to go rogue as they like to call it. So 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.800 it's quite clear their strategy is to share juicier and 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.680 more relatable content about their lives, which is I am 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.040 definitely here for at the moment, and I have really 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.680 been enjoying the new content. Now. On Wednesday's episode, they 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.119 discussed how Kurt considered becoming a stripper and a drug 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.280 dealer when he was struggling financially a couple of years ago. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.440 Now this was before Sarah and Kurt started dating, and 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.400 Sarah said he went through a bad boy stage after 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.480 breaking up with his ex girlfriend who cheated on him. Now, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.880 Kurt explained that he was severely broke, living out of home, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.040 working a few different jobs, and just scraping by week 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.160 to week. He said it got to a stage where 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.320 he couldn't afford food like rice and tuna, and his 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.320 parents had to help him out to afford rent, but 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.480 he ended up blowing all of his money on the 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.880 weekend's partying. And he said that it was at this 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.760 stage of his life when he was in a very 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.960 dark place and considered drug dealing. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.480 Here's a clip of what he said. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.080 It's pretty bad to admit, but I even like looked 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.000 at like dealing. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.240 Yeah, far out. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:35.960 It was pretty bad. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.520 Like we had these is when you were a trady. 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.560 Yeah, well I was a trady and like I went 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.640 through high school, never touched a drug in my life, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.440 never touched a drug. Didn't even really like alcohol that 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.120 much until like year eleven and twelve he starts, you know, 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.040 he started partying in. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.800 That No, I don't know, but yeah, you always sheltered 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.320 child now. Kurt then went on to explain that he 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.560 was at rock bottom at this point and he was 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.560 living in a complex where his next door neighbors were 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.600 selling drugs, So he and his roommatee were both in 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.320 the same position. They were both struggling financially and in 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.800 such a rut that they said, hey, why. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.680 Don't we do what they're doing. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.840 They're making so much cash at the moment. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.320 So they sat down. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.000 And talked about it, mulled over it for a while 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.920 and then thought, oh my god, what are we doing. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.880 We could end up in jail, we could. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:23.360 Lose it all. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.600 And it was very lucky that Kurt didn't go down 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.600 this path because Sarah explained that the next door neighbors 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.760 a few weeks later actually got caught. So Kurt said that, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.640 being a religious man, he thinks that God was watching 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.240 over him during that time, and during that time he 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.040 was also praying a lot, and he said that it 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.240 was quite a scary place to be in because despite 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.320 the fact that he was looking for God for advice, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.840 he was still drawn into this quick cash grab. I 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.600 was just completely shocked that they would share this type 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.440 of content on their podcast. I mean, as Kate said, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.080 these podcasts are so much better than the previous series 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.640 of The Health Code Daily because they are so juicy, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.360 and this is the type of content that I actually 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.400 love listening to. But again, in terms of a Browning perspective, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.760 I am really surprised that Sarah and Kurt would let 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.800 out this type of information. Oh, I was getting my 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.840 smoothie ready this morning, and I had listened to Tuesday's 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.720 episode where they touched on that Kurt really loved magic 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.240 Mike and wanted to be like was inspired by chatting 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:21.800 Tatum to become a stripper, And it was like a 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.839 lighthearted conversation, and they said, oh, we should do a 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:24.760 whole episode of this. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.559 So I was taken. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.080 Aback enough that Kurt was talking about being a stripper, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.200 and suddenly they just dropped into the conversation about him 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.360 considering being a drug dealer, and all I could think 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.160 about was Sarah's day's father. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.959 Who seems very straight laced. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.840 I mean, they always joke about how Sarah has lived 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.400 in a very sheltered life, and I. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.520 Just could not imagine it. I found it so strange. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.600 I think that that was where Kurt was in his 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.079 life at the time, and how much his life has 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.480 changed from meeting Sarah. Well. Sarah actually said that when 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.280 she met Kurt, one of the things that she loved 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.720 most about him was that he was so honest about 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.200 the fact that he was into partying. She didn't say 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.719 that he took drugs, but she sort of alluded to 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.280 the fact that he knew her morals yet was honest 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.400 about his past. And he also said that a couple 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.280 of weeks before he met her, he had considered being 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.240 a striop. Well, she said something like Kurt knew that 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.480 I'd never done drugs before, and Kurt also referenced the 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.360 fact that he said I'd never done drugs at high school, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.600 so he didn't say he had done drugs. But as 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.840 you said, so Vi, there was a lot of talk about. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:26.880 Him being a bad boy. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.280 Do you reckon the fact that people have somewhat not 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.840 celebrated Nadia Bartel but related to Nadia Bartel after the 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.120 alleged white powder incident. Do you think that maybe they 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.600 saw how that went down and how it was received 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.400 and thought, oh, okay, maybe people like this sort of connory. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.560 They wouldn't even know who Nadia Botelli is. She's not 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.280 in the Cronulla bubble. So no, I definitely don't think so. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.760 I don't think they're worldly enough to kind of understand 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.840 that concept. I honestly think it's a part of this 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.439 born again Christian narrative that they're pushing. I think we've 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.600 discussed on another podcast that Sarah's Day is really trying 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.840 to rebrand away from just a fitness influencer. She is 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.120 really turning a channel into a mummy blogging space. And 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.320 I think that she is really trying to target that 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.600 American Christian market as well. And I think, you know, 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.360 a lot of people will sit back and say, oh, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.520 you know, they saw her wedding video and there was 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.240 a lot of religious conversations and sentiment going on. However, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.800 a lot of people are like, well, it's not very 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.920 religious that they had fox before marriage and all these 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.839 different things. And so I really think that they're trying 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.000 to show that they have found God in their life 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.360 and he's improved it, and this is one method that 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.240 they are using to explain how Kurt has managed to 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.120 change his life thanks to God. Now we've got to 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.360 go into how Kurt was approached to be a stripper. Now. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.640 He said that he was in his physical peak. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.280 Sarah described it by saying that his body looked as 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.679 though it had been photoshopped. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.280 And I remember Kurt fondly back back in this time. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.199 Well, we did see at Sarah's hen's party, her bride'smaids 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.000 print off a big life size cutout of Kurt when 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.400 he was back in his photo shop days. And you 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.400 do often hear Sarah make comments that Kurt has a 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.599 dad bod now and he's not the same as he 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.440 used to be, which I always feel a little bit 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.840 sorry for Kurt when she says that. Well, I felt 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.680 sorry for Sarah because Kurt dropped that heaps of girls 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.640 told him that his body looked photoshop. It sounded like 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.920 that he was seeing them around the same time as 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.080 he seems still sort of cut by it. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.160 You know, when you just like Kurt just stopped talking, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.600 like you have some sense. Is it any. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.000 Surprise though, because the rumor is that they met on Tinder, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.079 So it's not like when you're on Tinder that you're 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.000 being ultra exclusive, like you're dating a whole bunch of girls. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 Yeah. Now, it was actually at a nightclub where. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.640 Kurt was approached to be a stripper. He said he 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.480 was wearing a button up top which explodes part of 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.920 his chest, so his physique was quite apparent to those 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.160 displays on display, and he said that the guy came 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.840 up to him asked, oh, what do you do for 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.439 a living, and he said he's a trade at the moment, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.000 the guy then said, have you ever considered stripping? So 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.719 if this sounds at the time you were approached to 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.960 be an escort, I was going to tell that story later, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.440 I will you told it before now I'll hold that 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.080 off for any new listeners. I feel like I must 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.360 give context anyway. So the guy said, well, have you 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.199 ever considered stripping? And Kurt said, I'm actually a terrible dancer. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.720 I would never be a stripper. I would be terrible 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.640 at it. The guy said, please take my card. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.439 Consider it. So Kurt said. A week later, he was 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.840 watching Magic Mike and he thought, is this fate? 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.360 This actually looks really fun. Maybe I should become a stripper. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.480 He decided to get his friend's take on it, and 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.280 they said, are you serious? 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:32.600 What are you thinking? 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.079 Can you imagine, though, if he had become a stripper, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.920 all the stories that would come out after he dated 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.840 Sarah's Day, because the internet is just wild with rumors. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.680 I feel like this is a rumor that I probably 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.400 wouldn't have believed if I'd heard. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:45.959 It a few years ago. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.280 Can I just say that there is actually nothing wrong 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.400 with being a stripper either, because I mean, I think 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.360 he was quite brave to talk about it, because I 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.160 think that it's a lot of Yeah, there's a lot 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.880 of stigma, and it is something that a lot of 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.840 young men and women do want to do when they 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.000 are trying to make a lot of money. Well, he 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.120 did joke that we could actually see his content on OnlyFans, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.680 which Sarah was very quick to say was not actually 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.480 a thing. Just to provide some context to the escort 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.680 story that you dropped before, Amy, I have discussed it 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.120 in a really early episode, but he was thinking of. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.680 Becoming a drug dealer and escort when I was not. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.240 I was not. No. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.680 So basically it was when we were working at seven 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.240 at the time and I was in Sydney. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.600 Amy was at a cadet ship. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.960 I thought I'd tag along and I was shopping by 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.240 myself in. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.440 Berk Street, Pitt Street, Pitt Street, anyway. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.560 I'm walking along and this like creepy guy approached me 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.520 and he's like, have you ever considered modeling before? And 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.640 I was like, uh no, I think I'm a little 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.080 bit too short. He's like, no, it's not sort of runway. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.040 It's like Playboy's like what is that Magazink Ralph sort 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.840 of stuff. And I was like, I don't think so. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.240 And then he handed me his card similar to Kurt, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.880 and said why don't you consider it? 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.560 And yeah, the car got ripped up. It was a 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.040 bit no you rip it up. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.320 We googled it and it turned out it was an 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.960 Escor agency. Yeah, sadly, my modeling career is not taking off. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:06.880 So if he was happy to be in zoo but 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.120 not draw the line. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.960 Good morning, guys, Welcome back to another blog. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 The Worst Kept Secret is out in the Open, with 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.200 influencer Jonathan Sower confirming he's back with Madison Wooley after 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.560 posting a photo of the pair on a romantic getaway. Sophie, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.760 can you fill us in on all the goss? Well, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.200 as we've discussed a number of times on this podcast, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.120 Madison revealed that she and Jonathan broke up in the 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.280 middle of June after almost two years together. Now, soon after, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.200 followers notice that the pair were still in fact following 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.760 each other and they kept liking one another's photos. Now 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.840 it was actually during a lockdown vlog where followers also 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.680 spotted Jonathan in Madison's apartment enjoying a cocktail. Now that 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.160 was in the reflection of a mirror, so it was 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.520 very good detective work. 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.840 The man in the mirror he was dubbed that's right. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.920 Now. They've also been sharing stories at the same locate, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.520 with Jonathan sharing Madison's shadow or arm or feet, and 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.760 it's very clear that he's more into trying to make 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.920 this a public thing, and Madison has really danced around 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.760 the topic. She hasn't confirmed or denied the fact that 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.880 they're together, and on a recent podcast episode, she said 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.280 that she'd chosen to no longer discuss her personal life now. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.400 This is despite starting a podcast about dating. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:25.760 And she opened up that she'd. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.120 Actually received a lot of backlash following all the relationship 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.280 drama because her followers felt like she was being dishonest 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.320 with he. I've heard her mention multiple times in recent 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.160 weeks that she's single, and she also announced that her 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.880 friend Lexi had a boyfriend and that she was very 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.560 much single herself, so she felt left out? 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:45.440 Yeah, she posted this photo. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.280 Of herself standing in the pool by herself with Lexi 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.000 and her boyfriend or canoodling, acting as if she was Oh, 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.680 poor me, I'm single. But we all know that her 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.040 and Jonathan have been together ever since the lockdown started, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.440 and who could blame anyone for wanting to re kindle 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.400 a relationship during lockdown because there's not many other options 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:03.960 out there. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.119 However, I was very surprised. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.600 When Jonathan shared a selfie of him and Madison on 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.000 a midweek staycation at a winery and they captured the 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.520 photo high and it was kind of this soft launch 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.480 of them getting back together that we all knew was happening, 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.760 but to have it actually put on Instagram story a 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.080 photo of them physically together, I was like, ooh. That 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.400 being said, he seems to be the one that keeps 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.760 trying to push it though, because he shared about ten 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.920 to fifteen different stories of their getaway, including more long lunches, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.040 their spicy mugs, what they were up to, as we said, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.280 a photo of her, whereas interestingly, Madison shared just one 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.840 photo of the scenery and did not tag Jonathan at all. Now, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.960 let's be honest, Madison keeps Jonathan relevant. We have noticed 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.360 that his Instagram following has been dropping. It's dropped ever 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.600 since he broke up with Shiny Grimm, and I probably 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.399 peaked a little bit since he started dating Madison. I 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.840 know he has been doing modeling work, but at the 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.119 end of the day, he kind of needs an insta 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.000